Square Enix Mafia I: Diabolus Erus (GAME OVER)

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So. I'm thinking its a 3/3 mafia scum team. With the night there should be 2 on the red side left I do believe...with the orange team wiped out already? Though I could be mistaken on that one :/ What ever the case may be though theres been to much grean and not enough scum colors. Lets keep up the pace guys~ x3

Anyways, reading through thread still, ect ect ect~

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Did my predecessor claim?? I didn't see that, but I'll go ahead and do so.

Rikken from FF12(vanilla)

If it is indeed 4 of each scum team then its not the 2 red and zero orange tat I thought there might be. Ouch...that means 3 red and one Orange guy out there compared to the rest that are townies. I would definitely say its lynch or lose if this is the case.

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Hmm...this may not mean much, but as I read through this thread, Glork is giving off that vibe.

You know? The one that says "Beware ye who enter here" sorta of thing.

Don't know what to make of it yet xD You people are speaking in a lingo thats hard to understand sometimes~ But no biggie.

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Vote Count:

bill1148: 1

(JPSalazar)

Not Voting:

AdumbroDeus
Antifinity
bill1148
Chronopie
dramonic
Glork
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thatguy00

Lynch:

5 votes.

Deadline:

June 25th - 5:00 PM EST

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Okay...Im laughing my ass off that people failed to noticed that D1hammer wasn't a hammer for TWO pages straight...LMAO

*continues reading*

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Okay...Im surprised the ones posting and switching votes at the start of D2 didn't notice the little red numbers appear in their post and go "WTF?" That's something I'm looking into.

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Something to note. Out of the people that did those votes and vote changes before someone publicly noticed the red count down, Glork is the only one out of the three to not even mention anything about it.(IE: Why he did such a thing ect ect ect) He was exceptionally silent. This stands out to me out of that fiasco. -shrugs-

(Read:I'm finding him scummy in this read through. Yes sir I am~ Him and affinity)

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I need to learn sometimes that my gut feelings don't always mean "scum" , but PRs as well...:/

I'm reading through the thread still, and a few things come off as strange to me on Affinity.

#1 being the blatant denial that Zodiark could be

Captain

Rygdea (Vanilla) when in fact that is what she was. Not knowing that isn't what I see as suspicious, but how he went about it. It seemed to eagar beaver, considering that she didn't claim a PR but a Vanilla role, which is usually easy to claim am I right?

#2 His blatant role fishing that made him a prime suspect in day 2, and him shrugging it off like nothing.

#3 My gut feeling, but when does gut ever work here as a reason eh?

There's probably more, but I'm still reading I'll get there~

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But if its true there's one scum team....then why did Icerent's role come up red instead of orange, like the others...????

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Break time

Vote: PranaDevil

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Intresting, if this is the case, that means I'm free to vote anyone.

Unvote

Vote DTMaster

Let's see this mechanic.

To make it more fun.

Unvote, Vote Chronopie

. Now wait for a vote count and wait for those red texts. If the counter goes down you are free to lynch.

Anyone want to explain to me why DTM's unvote vote change to ChronoPie didn't strike the red meter?? Especially, if I'm understanding this correctly, he changed said vote after another person voted(Dram I beleive)? When everytime elsewhere, the same did not occur(IE D2 beggining vote changes before everyone noticed them)

Because my gut is starting to give me this wild theory...a theory that involves votes on scum not effecting the Doom counter (Be forewarned D:<, I bite!) Vote changes on Antifinity, Parana, FC, Ambros and Icerent made the Doom conter go down, but the vote change on DTM(Self votes probably don't count, but eh) and Cronopie did not compute.

Discuss?? Or claim Midnight is mad??? Either ones fine. Whatever you decide Imz heading off to bed XD

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EBWOP:

If Icerint's DM claim is to be believed, she is basically Town on a fundamental level, so yeah....Still I only really wanted to bring it up becuase it stuck out to me like "OMG!! WTF??? HEY THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING!! DO IT DO IT DO IT!" kinda thing were it wont leave me alone :/...

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Really??

Well...teach

me

to make an assumption like that when I havent read past night 4 DTM kill yet :/

<Midnight is mad...carry on

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Well if theres only four townies.... Someones lying.

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Okay... That whole MPR/Devotress Vote off debacle was just...sad yo Dx

Also I am one to think that the possibility that there is two scum teams of 4 in this is nill and void. From what I can understand, Icerint claimed DM. It seems that she was sorta right. Because if we go with two scum teams, one side Lich/Tiamat/Kraken/Marilith and on the other side Scarmiglione/Barbariccia/Cagnazzo/Rubicante???

Even if she lied about her being a DM(WHich I'll be honest, I wasn't getting "lol Im lying guys look at you squirm!! XD" vibes) that still kills the fact that IF theres a second scum team that they'd be The Four Fiends Scarmiglione/Barbariccia/Cagnazzo/Rubicante.

But I don't think there is a second scum team, I think Icerint's DM claim(That looks true) proves that we only have one more 'mafia' scum to deal with. Lich.

Soo...yea.. Is this more of 'Midnight is crazy'?

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EBWOP:

They wouldn't be The Four Fiends "Scarmiglione/Barbariccia/Cagnazzo/Rubicante"***

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I didn't say that Lich was the only 'enemy' left. I said he was the last 'mafiosi'. Because I think I read somewhere in this thread that if Icerint is indeed a DM, that they would prove that there is only one scum team. Didn't someone in this thread say that DMs only usually only get put in with one scum team, for the very reason of our confusion now??

Hi me with a side of lead pan if im out of my mind with this one, but I think we only have Lich, and the SK to deal with. -shrugs-

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After reading that whole MPR/Devo showdown, Im beginning to think that Doom is a mafia ability.

It in essence is a 'Vote manipulation' ability. Which scum usually have most often. The fact that it eventually kills. therefore gives the scum team another kill, doesn't really register as important to me.

I don't think its a SK ability, becuase the two people it was used on were two likely pro-town players. Wouldn't an SK go for Mafia first?? Instead of going for pro-town players like that??? It doesn't seem right to me, and makes me think its Lich's ability.

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Vote:JP

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JP is either Lich, Scarmiglione, or actully who he says he is.

A win/win/lose situation.

If he is Lich or Scarmiglione, then the other (If he turns out to be Scarm) can probably be found in affinity or bill.

A much safer lynch to me then Chrono, who has every possibility of being our Vig

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Alright sounds like a plan to me ^^

Unvote
Vote:Chronopie

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Oh? How so??

Glork made sense. I like people who make sense. In which he did.

So whats the problem. Im up either you/JP/No lynch at this point. Honestly whatever we do is going to put us in a very precarious position. So what the hell! D:

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Thatguy, Antifinity, Midnight (and Bill): Do you agree with my assessment of the second scumgroup?

If not, who do you think is in the second scumgroup?

If so, do you think it might be worthwhile to try and lynch the Mafia2 Roleblocker instead of Chrono today?

I'm finding it hard to believe that there

is

a second scum group, just on the fact that we had a Death Miller. I think those are mostly put into games with only one scum group for the very reason of our confusion mess that we are in.

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I have never said that there wasn't more then one scum left. I keep saying that there probably isn't more then one 'mafiosi' left. I think its A mafiosi and SK(or Third Party) that we are dealing with here.

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Well Cronopie I say we lynch you anyway if your

so

'Unlynchable' Either way, I'm not feeling like give victory to a cocky bastard ^^

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I don't see why you should be tbh. You just spilt the beans, reason numero uno why SKs hardly ever win any games. BECAUSE THEY CANT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT! xD

SKs kill always get out-prioritized by other kills, and if Lich has any common sense, he'll be after your ass. Number one being, because we have no clue who Lich

is

, but we sure as hell know who you are.

Im sorry cronopie, but if the RB and Lich have any common sense, they will go after you. You aren't NK immune

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More Cronopie votes please. He is either lying, or telling the truth, both of which are anti-town.

Lynch this Super 'Unlynchable' please. Kthxsbai~

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At this point in time, lynching Lich does not compute with my wincon. We lynch you now, or try to if your not lying, and try to lynch Lich another day. Either way, Lich is not the way to go this day. Sorry.

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Not lynching scum should never not compute with your wincon, unless you're scum.

Possible Lich: Bill, MS, JP, AD.

Bill: Scummy iso, see my other posts.

MS: See above ^^

JP: Claimed Earth elemental

AD: the last claimed vanilla. (excl. Anti, who was RB'd, and doom still placed by Lich).

Bill will be Swimming tonight.

I never really like to call people stupid, but...what?? Are you taking stupid pills sir?

If the town decides to lynch Lich, we lose to you. Therefore going against my Wincon.

If we lynch you,nand the noose doesn't tighten, Lich has the chance to take you out. Cause lets face it Lich, unless your just willing to just throw in the towel, going after him

should

be your main concern. Am I right? I mean, Sks by their very nature

are

the enemy of both the town and the Mafiosi. So...gonna go out with a bang?

Besides Crono. I highly doubt its just Lich that is left in the Mafiosi, what with the RBer and all. I doubt the RB is protown after him 'supposedly' RB a claimed doctor. Therefore its two versus you bud. And you being gone should be everyone else s priority right now.

Nice try~

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In addendum to the above post of mine:

I have never been in a situation like this before. A first time for everything right?

But you sir Cronopie, are the common enemy. Your survival is against

everyone's[/] Wincon.

Being the Third party that you are, you are scum, and therefore lynching you is not against my Wincon. Whether or not you are 'unlynchable' does not take away from this fact.

Unless you can withstand Earth element and or Doom, I don't see why your so cocky.

You should have saved it for the after-party sir~

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Again you are wrong.

You are the SK. The Common enemy of all in this game. One that is probably playing a gambit(And expects me to believe his vote will count when he himself said Water negates water..>.>) that he hopes we believe.

How is lynching you going against my Wincon? Or anyones for that matter??

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Well sir, THAT is entirely up for debate on whether or not if we lynch you equates to this..'not a lynch'.

And you forget the situation we are in with you Sir. Voting anyone

but

you will be against Town win con.

BECAUSE YOU WIN IF WE DON'T!!!

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...>.>

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.....>.>

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Sanzing my last two posts of '..>.>' where does it say that Crono is distracting me from anything Adumbrodeus?? Stop putting words in my mouth please.~

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You fail, because I want Crono lynched. Its obvious that he is scum, I just fail to see why he still here is all. -shrugs- It wasn't distracting from anything though, so I fail to see what your even talking about there.

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He was flailing his dick around, and I wanted to chop it off. I wanted to tell exactly how he wasn't gonna win. He got cocky, and I wanted to pull him down a few pegs.

I was serious when he should have saved it for the after party.

Also, instead of talking about lynching Crono, I wish to see you actually vote him please. Kthkx~

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Useless to you. Nonfunctional to you. Also why would going after other scum when he is the most obvious answer to our problem, be beneficial? You guys got down Parna's throat hard for lying. So why do we now see a resistance here on Crono??

As for the question. If he flips the Water Archfiend, and therefore one of the other scum team, then his claim of being 'unlynchable' is BS.

Besides, I don't think, what with all the green that has been put on the dead list, that there is any possibility of a second scum team of four. It wouldn't make sense that there hasn't been one killed. AT LEAST ONE. Therefoe on that and that pretty much alone, tells me that there probably isn't a second scum team.

Plus, Crono is the SK, there is no second scum team, for he basiclly is the second scum team all by himself.

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And to add to my post.

It is both useless and redundant, to be speculating there being two scum teams of 'mafiosi', when all we have to do is lynch Cronopie to figure that out once and for all.

If he is the Water Archfiend, then his claim of 'unlynchable' is BS. No Mafiosi should

ever

be 'unlynchable'. It defeats the purpose of such a role, for they are supposed to be lynched. And from what I keep hearing, this is not a bastard game. Being 'Unlynchable' is in most cases a Pro-Town thing, but I can certainly see an SK having this ability. Does that mean I believe his claim of such? Hell no!

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@_@

just both empty your mouths and vote CHorno and we'll be on our way.

LMAO I already am. xD

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Now, again I ask, if your scenario is correct, where's the roleblocker?

Then this person is in the same scum team as Lich. Therefore we may have two instead of just the one to deal with once Crono is gone.

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Welp. Scarmy is who we need to find, and Scarmy is who will be lynched today.

So LET'S DO EET!!

HoS:JP

With

supposedly

two doctors in our towns arsenal, why do we need a commuter???

Besides, Dram was Barb, and he claimed an element, JP is claiming earth element....soo whats up there??

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I didn't fall for anything anti

I was being me

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EBWOP::

I meant AdumbroDeus....you A names all look alike >.>

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Then could you be somebody different if you're town?

Maybe......In another game draw of hands?

That ploy was too obvious, even for noob town, I don't like it.

What was obvious was the cocky attitude, and that me no like And noob town?? Really?? I \'m hurt sir! hurtI tell you!

What do you think of JP?

I've already stated what I think about him. I find it odd that we have two docs and a commuter all in one game. Plus his element claim, very much like dram's, minus the being claimed Summon part .

What do you think of anti?

I have found him scummy the first time I came into this thread. He was a candidate for many lynches through out the game. So something must be up with that. Seeing as how he

wasn't

lynched, it is cause for some concern, seeing how he was a lot more better candidate to me then say...Parna(Ring a bell?)

Who else should we concentrate on as other possible scum candidates?

Hmm...in

ter

est

ing

question Watson Le-le-let's find out~

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@midnight, if you're gonna be cocky, do it while scumhunting. It's easy to disguise being disruptive to scumhunting as being cocky. Also, I'm bothered by you dismissing the possibility of there being another scum team so easily.

Let it be heard ITT, that Midnight is never cocky, only sarcastic

And I didn't

easily

dismiss the possibility of there being a second scum team. I said that what ever Crono flipped, be he the vig he said he was in the beginning, or the Sk he 'admitted' to in the end, or second scum member itself, we would know once and for all.

Stop taking words from my mouth~

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Midnight was crazy then. First time with a DM, be I replace in or not, so it kinda threw me off. But alas, a role I have never even heard of defeated my line of thinking I think I hear the Trumpets blaring~

-shrugs-

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Ditto-san

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Posting...in this shiny new thread



Anyways on JP, wasn't he RBed,or whatever??? Said he used his ability to commute, yet he still got (Supposedly) a pm stating that someone tried to. He could be lying, but if he isn't, I don't see any reason for there being TWO commuters on the same scum team, nor do I see any reason to be wasting an ability like that on your teammates. I don't care how good that would make them look..I doubt that was the case somehow.

-shrugs-

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If he's Scar, then JP is not Scar, and his "Commuter" explanation is more plausible for the reason. We lynch Midnight today.

If this is indeed the case, then looking at thatguy might be the more plausible road. Because your not gonna find any scum role here. I've already said this once, but I got Rikken from FF12. I only got one role-name in my pm. Good god, you'd think if I was gonna fake claim on a game like this, that I would do so with some one as lame as him ...>.> get out of Town...I would have picked a more cooler character then that.

If he's town, we lynch JP as Scar and Midnight as the other scum (whose name escapes my immediate memory) tomorrow.

Sorry to sound like a whining bitch, but again, you won't find a scum role here. If AdumbroDeus isn't scum, and we lynch JP today, lynching me tomorrow isn't going to get you anywhere.

If he's the other scum, we lynch JP as Scar and win today.

This sounds more plausible, but are you willing to take the risk of him not flipping up scum??

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Yes Glork. But I am

telling

you I am pure vanilla. I am

telling

you I am Rikken from FF12. I am

telling

you I only got one role name in my pm. And I am

telling

you that if I was gonna waste my time fake claiming that I would do so with another character, you know...one that didn't suck balls(No offense Kise ) I am in favor of your plan, but I'm

telling

you now that 'There's no scum here'

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EBWOP::

I am also

telling

you that if adum is Scar that maybe you should look at the possibility that maybe thatguy is lying. I mean, you still don't even know who he's protected most nights yet. And Rubicant with a protecting role fake claim/actual role doesn't seem all that off when you think about it.

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Well then, if adum isn't scum, what about Anti? I mean, whats to say that he wasn't RBed to make him look good?

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Ahh. N2 was the night.

Well. Im all for the doom thing, and Im here. -shrugs-

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(Whomever got blocked N1 did not claim that they were blocked.)

Might be because the one that did get RB that night was one of the victims?

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Alright!!

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Vote:AdumbroDeus

8

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Unvote

6

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Vote:JP

4

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Unvote

how many is that now xD

2

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Vote:AdumbroDeus

0

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Unvote

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Vote:JP

WEWT!! ^(^O^)^ This...is kinda fun in a weird way D:

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Unvote

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>]

HAMMA TIME!!!

Vote:AdumbroDeus

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Unvote

Good idea D:

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Soooooooo.....now what???

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@Thatguy: Who did you protect and why?? Your protect actions are consiratly absent in the Night actions list. So please. ^^ Pray them now~

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Alright!!

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Doom counter suppossedly gone down. Adumbrodeus possibly gone, but will be gone anyways if he hasn't already. I think thats about it..

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WHOOP!! One more~

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Vote:JP

I do believe we have scum here

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-crosses fingers-

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So I'm dead.

Sticking with my read on JP, and one of the claimed docs is still scum.

ahhhh....Shhhiiiit!! D: I hope Im not reading into this one too much....

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Yep~

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hmmm.....something tells me we havent lynched anyone yet.....why not??

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.....*sigh*

*facepalms*

Great. I wonder who THAT could be...>.>;

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ONE EPIC WHOOP ASS!!!!

GOOD JOB TEAM!! :3

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what....no QT of the second scum team

Anyways, sorry for ruining your groove ther Iece D: I swearz! I didn't meanz it! T_T

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I'm just glad I could be apart of this awe-saw game that is a Square Mafia ^_^

I sure as heck want to play in future ones SE ftfw!~