Werewolf: Wisborg Asylum: GAME OVER, Innocents Win.
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Anything witty to go along with a random vote SHEESH.
(as an aside after my first game with you Fate I thought you were crypto funny how that works huh).
(then I thought you were Nik but thats also not true soo).
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I even, out of boredom, tried to sleuth some in the other game and I THOUGHT I had it (Nik) but then it didn't add up because you were both in the game together.
You sir, are an enigma.
A delicious engima wrapped in bacon.
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Soo... Reck is playing at slappywags, dragging?? crypto with him?
Crypto says there is some inkling of truth to whats going on.
We're at 9 pages of sheer madhattery.
I'm going to bed. I want the madness to be at a low simmer - Chrono looks like a far better lynch than Reck-to BUT I don't even think everyone has posted yet?-
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I almost was ready to declare you for lynching for lyin' there but there is some choice tidbits:Merk wrote:Yes, I believe you should. The sooner the better because you're making me uneasy (VP).
Chrono is probably town.
Crypto is probably town.
Fate is probably town.
YOU are probably town.
Dry-fit is probably town.
Normally this would be allaince time buttt I need to sink my teeth in more before I get fully there.
Jack isn't a terrible lynch but:
Unvote, Vote: Dramonic
I am unapologetically voting for powernothing hypocrisy notwithstanding.
I'd also add to the murderin' list:
lukepukeduke
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Of my two lists:
1.) You commented on the part I'm far less interested in.
2.) You took the easy road on the first - why, especially, no dry-fit.
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@Merk:
Chrono is a very visceral call. Its just the way everything adds together leaning far on the side of "Town making a set of odd moves" versus "Scum pretending to make a set of odd moves".
If you agree, lets get a Dramonicin'-
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He's on the list yo'@Spyre: We've been debating it back and forth; so it's a possibility. Like we said, the claim (mainly) wasn't something I'd expect as a town reaction but we'll go with it *for now*.
What do you think of adding Fate if you do suggest an UA?
@Dry-fit: Dramonic, yes no?-
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I'm thinking a bit more - it might be a wizbang to start d2 orrr before the end.@SypreX: Oh, lookee there, Fate is on the list.. /facepalm Are you officially declaring an alliance or are you still thinking about it and who else should be on it?
FTR: Jack and FC are not scum together. I'm not sure either way yet individually but.-
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That is becoming a possibility. Definitely not before dram.Merk wrote:@Spyre: Can we lynch rajrchp-fl;sfjdl; tomorrow? Or even today?
Chrono is still town.
I'm actually starting to lean town on Jack too. I'd still put a BULLET there but.-
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Its the style of madness. He actuallyFate wrote:Vote's stayin on Jack. Interested in hearing why Spy thinks he is more and more town (just because of the whole random lynch all lurkers battle cry out of nowhere?)believeswhat he is saying.
That said, give me dramonic today and if dram isn't scum I'd acquiesce tomorrow.-
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Goddddddd you have no idea how aggravating it is trying to fight to keep him alive based on that bad town itch.
JackALope2323: 8 (Lowell, Deer, Fate, easjo682, The Goat, rajrhcpfreak, xRECKONERx, crypto)
Part of my issue is some of those on that wagon. A lot. I don't smell bus from this and there is some sketchy there.-
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Ani if you think I'm town and want to man up join the train CHOO CHOO.
Jack, take a deep breath. Realize that if you're town chances are high the arguing is also town.-
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You should be. That would have been slam dunk.Sorry for getting your hopes up, Spyre.
WhaaaattttttttttttttThats good, it's always good to see someone who is comforatble with being lynched, it's even better when they explictly say so.-
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Well lets not get too ahead of the game, yet. Reck is starting to be a prime target that I dont think I'll get to today.RC wrote:@ SpyreX: Who do you think is likely to be scum, but who is unlikely to be lynched today?
Well, you being scum should be a good enough one. You know what you've done (or, more aptly, not done).Dram wrote:SpyreX, I've yet to hear a reason why you are so eager to bathe in my visceraes.
@SV:
Jester speculation doesn't help anyone. Ever. If there is a jester chances are REAL high that it wont end the game and you lynch and move on and go "wow, we lost to a role that wins if they get lynched and thus acted as though they should be lynched what a shocker" and then concentrate on winning the game and yelling at the mod after.
Any kind of speculation along the lines of "WHAT IF ITS A SCUM SUPERBOMB THAT KILLS US ALL KEKEKE" isn't helpful because its a variable that can't be controlled for.-
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RC's post is pretty useful overall and I kinda get them town vibes.
I'm more than a little baffled at your response about JESTERS FROM THE RAFTERS and why its not a helpful thing TM to worry about.-
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While normallly I'd be all for a SV move there's a couple things that have me concerned in that bad way:
1.) Look how quick this went off already.
2.) While i thought he was town, this has me MEGA PARANOIDU:
I mean I'll kill anyone but I'm not getting that warm fuzzy feeling in my belly from this at the mo'Chrono wrote:I find myself agreeing with Fate on this one.
Unvote, Vote Shattered Viewpoint A little less (meaningless) posting, a little moar action please.
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Sorry I didn't detail that right - it worries me more about Chrono than SV.@ SpyreX - lynchbait or not, he's scummy. Focusing on lynching a jester for no logical reason is a viable scum strategy (although a dumb one) because it gets the town to waste their day. The fact that he voted the suspected jester shows that he doesn't even know what he's talking about.
Secondly, Fate is right to point out the never delivered dramonic iso. Empty promises of content so he can sluff his way onto what is perceived to a be a hot wagon is a scummy move. What is worse is that he has now come in with a dramonic vote!
I'll acquiesce today. Dramonic would be a good viggin' tho'
Unvote, Vote: SV-
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I'll seriously lynch ANY of those three today.
And yea if I'm wrong about Jack AND you jerks lynch me all I ask is that you kill the hell out of Dramonic because seriously that was the best reeeeaccch for the stars FoS ever my lord LETS GET KILLIN PEOPLE NOW-
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Ohh good meta talk yeee-haw!
And yea I'd like to see that lynch. SV has some interesting bits to pull out but there's some awesome interaction around the Dram if Dram-scum that would be sweeeet to get.
But, its also well past that pointe' where I can pull together a lot of caring.-
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<3 Fate
Annnnddddd
I thought I was voting Jack
Unvote, Vote: Jack
As for "OHH NOES SPYREX NOT LIVIN UP TO THE HYPE":
Too bad. We should have lynched like 10 pages ago. This isn't helpful and I've been pretty clear about the whole not caring at the mo'.
That'll change. Trust me.-
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If my goal was not garnering attention as this page says I've done a bangup job!
Orrrrrrrr, maybe just maybe, its like I said. Jack, Dram, SV. Whomever, dont care they can eat ropos.
I'd prefer Dram by a margin but I doubt its happening and that doesn't matter as much as ENDING THE DAY ALREADY.
So, yea, if SV is winning the race fine - I did think I was voting Jack though.
Unvote, Vote: SV-
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MMMmmmMmmmmm meta is delicious.
I ask only if I get pushed on OMG meta and I do, in fact, flip town that the meta-ers get carpet bombed.
I'm not by my machines but I have a revelation:
SV? Probably town.
Jack? Probably town.
Dramonic? Still scum.
Unvote, Vote: Dramonic
My inability to bite deeper doesn't change these simple truths: neither SV's vanilla claim NOR Jack's active antagonism make for good scum maneuvers in this game.
I'd guarantee that the majority of scum are in the quieter half of this game.
My vote isn't moving unless its to stop a no lynch. Yea, if I'm wrong about Jack lynch me blah blah but I'm not buying it. THE FOOT GOES DOWN HERE.-
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That is it.
You guys drove me to the brink: I reread this thread.
Good lord this is an f-- day and it needs to go. There is so much white noise and NO U that
However, because it needs to be done:
ALLIANCE TIME
Chrono
Fate
Merkabah
Dry-fit
ReaperCharlie
Crypto
I'm confident of that set. Very confident.
Additionally, this is the killin' list:
Dramonic
Lukepuke
rajrhcpfreak
Lowell
easjo
MME
I am going to get outvoted by team awesome but after the reread the more I think BOTH SV and Jack are town. However, if I am outvoted by team alliance win I will vote them.
Again, I reiterate that Dramonic is scum and the only reason I'm not going into SUPER DETAIL on why I think so is because its so much gut and subjective business I would rather not get my lynch today than drag this out for another 30 pages.
Additionally I would watch for alliance overtones of joinination: inHim, Nightson
I absolutely can't make up my mind about Deer. He makes me itch in that bad way but it doesn't have the BITE I need.
The rest? They need to polarize. There are a few of them I get that sniff of town but no way in hell would I not kill them at this juncture NOR will I expand upon why I think they are town until the time is right.
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Good play? No.
Town play? Yes. Like I said before hebelievesit. In a way I don't think is faked.
HOWEVER, I will not stand in the way of it. Just don't be surprised when you get a huge I told you so when he flips town.-
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One big issue here: my vote switches aren't random kemosabe'.RC wrote:Randomly switching votes (like SpyreX is doing) makes me SUPER suspicious. Even though there are a number of good lynch targets, it's still suspicious behavior because it shows non-committal tendencies and no conviction toward lynching any one particular party, so long as SOMEONE gets lynched. Not to mention he's been pinging my scumdar all game (admittedly since Chronopie said 'Vote: SpyreX because he always flies under the radar, but for other reasons as well).
Even when I want the day to end I'm still not pushing certain directions.
See that Deer post you quoted too? Yea, thats one of those leanin hard on plantin him on the killin' list posts. It sounds all beautiful and all but it really doesn't mean a thing (since it aint got that swing).-
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When push comes to shove maaybbeee 1 or 2 of that list is scum. Maaaybeee.
Chances are real high they be town yo.
And I never said it was ULTIMATE PERFECT TOWN ALLIANCE.
Its just a group of dudes I'm pretty sure done be town that are gonna mow through the rest of you chuckleheads and hopefully not have to pull out knives on each other.
And if you're gonna go there might be scum there you done better be ready to point a finger in a specific direction.
Or, like I said, useless.-
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Ohh yea and potential roles that may or may not make people not become the dead:
Dont you dare come near me. Ever.
I want them to take the shot.
And if there's an SK in the game and he's gonna play make believe vig - don't you dare shoot any of my alliance. Thats a hangin' crime 'round here.-
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While I, true, haven't pulled this stunt as scum YET its only because the bubbles have never meshed right for it to work since that great day when it sparked in my head. It'd be much harder to pull off as scum but it would be awesome.
However, this has nothing to do with thefearof me being "confirmed town" versus "looking for scum".
Deer is on the short list.-
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My brothers in the the Alliance most powerful:
I propose we move this one level higher. A level that will truly inspire fear and awe.
For the next few days let us truly proxy our votes. The member who will then wield the megavote can change based on a limited amount of discussion.
Let us cleave through the wastes.
THAT SAID:
@Reck:
You had a dream? Not a function of your power?-
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OHHHH it wasn't a hammer it was lol, reactions. ALL IS MADE CLEAR.
You're on my short list there compadre'.
Sniping at Merk is tech and all but lets go ahead and get ani lynched now.
Unless you'd prefer...yourself?-
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If Ani hadn't KILLED ONE OF MY ALLIANCE MEMBERS then maybe sure.
As it sits, no way. And the other points about the creature versus a lunatic bear witness.
Needless to say we'll need another flip or two before things get locked down.
Oddly enough, I kinda like raj's pure juevos in throwing a vote down on me for being anti-town. Not enough that I wont make him rope for it. Enough that it might not be right away.
Ani dies. Period. There's no reason to drag this out.-
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No, see, a phase with a lockdown that is going to give us an important piece of information - namely, the coloring and HOPEFULLY enough from ani's alignment to guage where those kills came from is worth pushing through a day.
Discussion is good when discussion needs to happen. Expedience is good when there's a reason to be expedient.
I'm more than a little paranoid with those two kills both having the ??? flavor. I want to tie down what is going on with ani in relation to that.
So, yes. I want this day done. Period.-
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You know my favorite part of this?
The simple fact that "What if he was scum??!?!?!?!?!" is a cop-out that could be applied to everything, ever.
Someone's on a wagon? WHAT IF HE IS SCUM OHH NOES!
Give a real reason for me being scum. Double points for explaning the deaths in relation to that.
Or, go on the short list. The real, real short list.
See, wanna know what the best part about having an alliance is? You can't stop it. Kill me and my will still will be done.
So, what I'm getting at team "OHH NOES HE KOULD BE SKUM I PROMISE:" put up, or shut up.-
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Reck I've got one fairly important question for you before I can reaallly think about putting you up in front of the board of directors:
What changed your opinion on me this game?-
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Hrmmm, one more question:
Is there anything you can think of why you, specifically, got the result for the night action? (Yes, I'm assuming it was an action and not a random act of Mod that handed us ani).-
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Wellllllllll
I had a dream.
That dream said SV is innocent.
BOoooo.
On the plus side it looks like the results are just delayed instead of truly janitored.
THAT SAID:
Reck is tech. I'd love to know the thought process behind the mystery dreams but I'm down.
Deer or Raj sound really good. Deer by a small margin.
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