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Updating from page 2 my random vote. Typing as reading.
All hydras please sign…no hydra excuses excepted.
uuuhhh, is that what they did?xvart wrote:FoS: Farside and Kmdfor giving someone an unrestricted free pass to towndom on page five.
xvart.
Caught up and there wasn’t much to update…I understand the wagon on xvart, I don’t understand those who don’t understand the wagon. Going to get rid of this policy/random vote on Sens (but dont pull your usual lurking/not reading the game BS).
Unvote.
Vote Elscouta.
Why are you attacking someone for joining a bandwagon. Why is it scummy Day 1? Why was it worth commenting on when so many have already joined the wagon (which I approve of fyi). Do you still like you Anon vote? Why? If you had to put a % on Xvart being town versus scum..what would it be?-
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Catching up from about page 11, got some time…
this coming from cobalt is a fucking jokeCobalt wrote: stop being bad at this game
giving him a cookie from bad play?..have you ever seen him as scum?..if not, why bring this up? Also, content isnt a buzzword.Jack wrote:Content is such a buzzword.
Cobalt isn't particularly playing different from the game I saw him as town in.
interesting statement...this REALLY is sticking out to me. At this point post (289) Jack has 4 votes. Cobalt just has 2. You express suspicion on Jack in the post with an FOS, but you vote cobalt instead? So why not vote Jack to "run up a wagon" and see if Bud jumps on it?xvart wrote:I would be interested in running up another wagon and see if Budja jumps on it, too.
your play in general...I have seen you being unhelpful before, but your last vote (before I voted you) was pathetic. to me, it seems like you are going out of your way to scum hunt. also, I would like to see pressure on you..see what happens. I likes your vagon zee best.Jack wrote:
CKD abandoned her third post of the day and only serious case with a weaksauce "I've been back and forth on Jack...that last vote though...". I think in Jack's opinion the vote is fairly obvious given the context of the discussion the previous day. CKD, what made you go back and forth previously?
how so? You don’t like wagons? Why? You feel like your vote on Meh is(was) doing something?Papa Zito wrote: I can easily see CKD as being opportunistic.
the quote you posted explains it dear. I didnt like his attack of a bandwagon on day 1....it seems like an attempt to look town. wagons on day 1 are great...I would love to argue theory with anyone who disagrees. that being said, i dont like wagons based on jack (thinks there is a pun here). Even on day 1..there should be reasons people want to apply pressure to someone.
why?Cobalt wrote:still see no reason to unvote cyberbob
jack is appealing though
first thing jack has said that I actually agree with (in reference to 363). jack what about that post did you find "terrible" I am curious.Jack wrote:Ooh, I really don't like xvart now. That post is terrible. Maybe I should do something more useful with my vote.
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Catching up from page 20.
this post alone give you permission to do the exact same thing you are suggesting Bud is doing. By jumping on a wagon, you can always say you were doing an "experiment". But that isnt my problem with the post...my problem is that I felt you were overlooking Jack (lack of a jack vote) when he was being quite scummy.xvart wrote:
It was more of an observational post, rather than a real "experiment;" regardless, at the time of my post, Budja had already set himself up to jump on the two next largest wagons (Jack and Cyberbob) either by direct statement or FoS's so running up Jack's wagon wouldn't really do anything for my suggested "experiment."curiouskarmadog wrote:
interesting statement...this REALLY is sticking out to me. At this point post (289) Jack has 4 votes. Cobalt just has 2. You express suspicion on Jack in the post with an FOS, but you vote cobalt instead? So why not vote Jack to "run up a wagon" and see if Bud jumps on it?xvart wrote:I would be interested in running up another wagon and see if Budja jumps on it, too.
you post right after I posted this, but you didn’t answer the question. Why? Still want an answer.curiouskarmadog wrote:
giving him a cookie from bad play?..have you ever seen him as scum?..if not, why bring this up?Jack wrote:Content is such a buzzword.
Cobalt isn't particularly playing different from the game I saw him as town in.
this is a good point.Jack wrote:
You were basically full of it? i.e. you were clearly accusing him of being wagon happy, but we he called you on that claim you tried to dodge it and accuse him of being defensive.xvart wrote:How did I misrepresent you? I didn't even make a direct comment about you or say Budja does this or Budja does that. A little defensive?
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Page 23, not liking the Xof wagon. Especially the votes from cobalt, Els, and ooba……..and SPS.
At this point, Jack is moving down my scum list.
interesting vote..why?Elscouta wrote:Unvote, Vote: Drippereth
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SPS, is a better wagon.
I would be fine with a Els wagon, too.Drippereth wrote:KMD and Elscouta are scum. Just sayin'
WTF?FeFiFoFum wrote:We are 26 pages in and I don't see a solid case built on anyone. I am ashamed of the lack there of scum hunting. Lets go peoples.
Also a FFFF wagon.
WTF?FeFiFoFum wrote:Haha, I knew someone would say that to me
Okay I liked the Xvart train better than the xtalt
SPS, is such a better wagon...bad votes, lack of anything, scumdar is tingling kids.....and according to my wiki, I am right 56% of the time.
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unvote, for now.
WTF?
lets make sure I understand this.
farside (who apparently is super popular) was killed.
ffff says jscope targetted farside by "watching"
ffff claims no one else targetted farside.
ooba claims that he also targetted farside with some unknown ability.
ooba, did you get some result with your ability? meaning are you certian it went through?
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edited: when you SAY "we're"curiouskarmadog wrote:
DID YOU TARGET FARSIDE?J-Scope wrote:
Um what this is obviously bullshitRole info on ability.
There's literally no ROLE INFO on abillity that could lead you to believe we're scum. At all. Simplest explanation = you're lying.
Vote Fefifofum
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well, given ooba's explanation..it sounds like he should have been able to see a.) ffff target farside (if he did), and b.) jscope target farside (if he did)
given ffff's explanation, it sounds like he should have been able to see ooba target farside (if he did).
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just I am having problems with FFFFscum's play.
on the surface if he is scum, it is incredibly horrible play. Unless his purpose was to draw out counter claims and rolefish...that has been done. If that however, is the case, then the scum dont have a problem sacking one of their own to get this accomplished, which probably means that xof is town...or they feel like the FFFF loss will reep better benefits.
this being said.
the fact that Jack mostly confirms Jscope's action.
and ooba doesnt confirm FFFF's claim of jscope's action..
the choice seems to be obvious, right?
is there something I am missing...as starbuck, points out, I could be missing something else.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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not sure why anyone is seeing FFFF town at this point.
not only has he lied multiple times...but he also claim to have the Sim...which could have cause whoever might actually have the Sim to counter claim. he has already outed a lot of people.
DGB dear, explain to me why you feel ffff is town...name his protown actions.
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quick semi-drunk post.
will respond to farside's post (if she wants me to) though I dont feel like those "really scummy" posts werent scummy at all. will explain later..\
I was curious what spy would say...to me..the jscope kill was an obvious scum kill, Els...a vig hit, was curious if he would say different and why.
also, disappointed that SPy didnt back up his "you are scum" post with anything, but find it interesting that Far comes out of no where (much like spy) with a CKD is scummish post right after I ask SPy to explain....rub anyone else strange?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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spy, far, and bud all in the same page out of no where..
this is the strangest nonwagon ever...
is this because I brought up the fact that people should be reviving jscope, and I wanted those who werent voting for him to explain why? Am I making people angry?
Spy and Bud, both are saying that they are getting scum vibes off me for lurker reasons.....too easy kids, you cant just say that to leave yourself open to jump on a possible future wagon....
Spy and Bud, farside has posted some posts of mine she feels are scummy....do you agree with her...do you feel they are scummy too?..why or why not? if you do agree with her, why not mention them as well when saying I am scummy for no reason?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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interesting....well not really, lurking am I? Budja care to compare our content, post count, or actual protown actions in this game? Or are you just hoping people will join a hypocrite without a case?Budja wrote:Actuallyunvote, vote CKD.
I don't like the weird paranoia, lurky thing you've got going on. (Horrible gut-feeling too, so weak and passive, unassuming feels off? Anyone else get this?)
Better wagon.
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Got some time (later than Sunday sorry) to post.
In reference to SPS, mostly a gut (explained somewhat in post you linked)at the time. Also, I didn’t like the Xof wagon and some of those pushing it. I felt the reasons were poor and it just smelt of Scum pushing “Day 1 we have little to go on bullshit”. Turns out I was right, at least about Xof.farside22 wrote:Still doing reads in iso. I'm sorry I'm not further ahead work has been just terrible.
CKD: post 661 why the vote on SPS?
POST 715 this is super scummy. Considering that there may not be a flip you want to lynch Jscope without further info.
post 719 sudden change from no where.
post 726 you really need to explain post 715 at this point
post 766 why is it between FFF and jscop when Ooba already claimed he saw no one target me with any abilities?
Why did you vote Kmd?
I have a feeling looking at Ckd in iso I may want to read what dripp had to say. I don't like Ckd's play day 2 on the FFF views. I felt like some of his post were coaching FFF example
Plus he obviously saw FFF was caught in a lie but still withheld his vote on FFF till much later.
I'm not liking CKD's play thus far.
In reference to 715, what was scummy about it? At that time, he claimed he had information about JScope. There WAS no reason for him to claim fully. I already had everything I needed from FFFF to make my decision…it wasn’t flavor but role info(which I asked in 696)…anything else was unneeded. At the time, my thought process was “Why provide scum additional information?”
In reference to 719, Started to think about it, something ooba said in 716 made me think. It made since to me, that if FFFF was truthful, scum would be going after him anyway. I was curious what FFFF’s thoughts were on the matter..at that point, if he said he didn’t want “give scum extra info” that would have been enough for me….it wasnt a complete reversal. Meaning, I was still going to vote Jscope full claim or not.
In reference 726, uuuhhhhh….what don’t you understand about this post dear? I wanted everyone to revive you before anyone “accidently” lynched Jscope and you weren’t revived. I wanted Jscope’s FULL CLAIM, because he was the one someone had a “guilty” on. Not sure what you don’t understand. A cop claims to have a guilty…that person is strung up and a claim is asked for he dies…at this point, there was nothing going on that was any different.
In reference to 766, not sure what you are asking. The lynch (in my view) was between FFFF and jscope. One of the two was lying. I didn’t feel that Ooba’s counter was enough to go on, a lot of factors. I needed additional information to make an informed vote.
I voted KMD, because of his refusal to revive Jscope. That revival should be obvious. But his first vote of the day was to revive drip. AND (mostly importantly) I didn’t like his jump on the wagon yesterday at the end..…the “soft claim” of information was unneeded and looked bullshitish…
which brings me to...
KMD can you explain why you didn’t vote FFFF earlier in the day? Where was this info earlier in the day when you were agreeing with FFFF?. FInally "if FFFF was telling the truth" why is it a good idea to lynch him?Kmd4390 wrote:FeFiFoFum wrote:I am the town watcher and Watched farside get targetted by j-scopeVote JScope
Revive Farside
This was a bad attempt to look town.Kmd4390 wrote:Hmm. I was about to pop in and say that we should lynch FFFF even if he is telling the truth because of info I have.
*Shrug*
Vote FFFFjust in case I miscounted.
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curiouskarmadog wrote:off to bed, will post tomorrow.
interesting....well not really, lurking am I? Budja care to compare our content, post count, or actual protown actions in this game? Or are you just hoping people will join a hypocrite without a case?Budja wrote:Actuallyunvote, vote CKD.
I don't like the weird paranoia, lurky thing you've got going on. (Horrible gut-feeling too, so weak and passive, unassuming feels off? Anyone else get this?)
Better wagon.
first SPS vote.....now mine...throwing shit against a wall until you find something that sticks?
this is going to cut it bud...you cant just shove off my questions...where have you scum hunted?Budja wrote:@CKD, I'm not spending my posts worrying over suspicions. overly-paranoid => scum. I'd like to think I've made more of an effort scumhunting too.
@Far, you are off about me (shrug)...I guess I can see how someone might take my posts that way....but you are just wrong....what really worries me is the vote after my mention of KMD...now, I am not misrepping, your vote could be because of my answers to your questions. You might (as presumed town) deem them scummy. But I dont understand why (as presumed town) you didnt even hiccup at my KMD points.
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I'm in read of everyone in iso. Right now my initial gut was kmd. My read not having read kmd in iso is you are on the top of my list.curiouskarmadog wrote:
Far, you are off about me (shrug)...I guess I can see how someone might take my posts that way....but you are just wrong....what really worries me is the vote after my mention of KMD...now, I am not misrepping, your vote could be because of my answers to your questions. You might (as presumed town) deem them scummy. But I dont understand why (as presumed town) you didnt even hiccup at my KMD points.
I so love how you just breeze through what I stated about how you pushed jscope lynch and not thinking about a lack of flip when you made that comment.
I also love that instead of standing on your own two feet your trying the ole bait and switch to someone else. Is there only 1 scum let CKD?
Do I have more then one vote I should be aware of?
I didnt breeze over again..I did push the jscope lynch.....and there isnt a "lack of flip"..if anything, it is a delayed flip....so that really isnt an arguement....what is bothering me the most about your current attack dear, is that it is based on absolutely NO ALIGNMENT flips. IF FFFF flips town, how does that change your arguement? FFFF claimed to have info that suggested Jscope was scum...that demands a Jscope lynch and claim, but doesnt demand one from FFFF...if jscope flipped town (even delayed)...FFFF would have to answer for that and would probably be lynched....in this case, there was numerous counter claims...which flips the tables demanding nothing for Jscope, and puts the burden of proof on FFFF....I treated that situation the exact same...what I find funny, is you dont have a problem with that....do you know something we dont far?
you know how the game works farside....this is beginning to increase your scum factor that you seem to be "forgetting" how to play.
about KMD, I dont care about your inital gut read...I want to know your thoughts on my points.....and can I assume you think he is scum too?
@all, I just caught KMD is sheigans...and no one wants to put him to the fire?
Late in the game yesterday he said he had information that suggests we lynch FFFF, but earlier in the day had no problem joining and pushing the Jscope lynch based on FFFF's claim...Now I bring this to the light..he doesnt want to answer ANY QUESTIONS? BULLSHIT....he needs more pressure, why is it good play to let that lie until later???!?!?!-
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thinking about farside in the shower...(not like that)
doubting she is mafia (unless there is good scum gambit going on)....so, she is either a misguided townie or a third party....pretty sure she is town. Farside, you really need to reconsider your vote, you are going down the wrong path.curiouskarmadog wrote:
you know how the game works farside....this is beginning toincrease your scum factor that you seem to be "forgetting" how to play.
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thisCyberbob wrote:OK so the message I'm getting is that people are basically voting SPS because he's actively lurking plus some secret scumtell. Is that about right? Because with all the other stuff that's been going on that is just about the easiest wagon possible (I point to Cobalt joining it as additional evidence of this).-
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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KMD fucking "suggested" that a role could be given to another person...what I am fucking trying to figure out is was that just for FFFF or does he know that anyone could get their role stolen....I want to know more (and again KMD is useless)...what if the role can only be stolen if the person is dead (like FFFF). then the role COULD be used by scum to manipulate, but it isnt as strong as giving it directly to them.
I dont think this is a good lynch...
unvote
a cobalt lynch and flip would tell us little( but I have been fucked by lurkers too much).....
I would join it...but time is so short, we would get a chance to get a claim from him.-
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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