Lay of Leithian Mafia: Game Over!

[SocioPath]

Vote: SpyreX

for being a terrible player and an all around unlikeable guy.

[SocioPath]

Vote: SpyreX for being a terrible player and an all around unlikeable guy.

While true, why does that make me scum?

MY FEELINGS

MISREP: SCUM DON'T HAVE FEELINGS.

[SocioPath]

This talk of claimed scum buddies is silly.
Lets more it more towards ME.

Someone quote me and respond to this statement in saying that it is scummy, and then lets back a back and forth refuting each others stances and opinions.

[SocioPath]

Someone quote

me

and respond to this statement in saying that it

is

scum

my, and then lets back a back and forth refuting each others stances and opinions.

Done.

Busted your breadcrumb.

AW CRAPZ.

I meant someone OTHER THAN YOU THOUGH.

Look at this town.

LOOK AT IT IGNORE ME.

So far the only thing I have to say is, breadcrumbing your role if you're a cop is stupid.

Breadcrumbing in general I feel is poor.
It masks the ability of crappy play with silly hidden word games with the intent it MEANS something productive.

Take players on face value, not who can play crypograms the best.

[SocioPath]

Maybe He Just Doesn't Know Jack.

Unvote
Vote: Jack

*INSERT REASON FOR VOTE HERE*

[SocioPath]

Connections between Iec and Cobalt as well as Iec and Drippereth. Possible between Iec and Budja.

Connections around these people are based on completed games.

I'M SURE YOU COULD START TYING ME TO PEOPLE TOO.

[SocioPath]

Players generally lean in on other players due to familiarity, and can/will reference them more because either they can read them better, or they benefit from having a similar mindset to bounce ideas off of, or other countless reasons.
Knowing which ties lay where is a good key to help establishing each players' mindset.

CASE IN POINT: THAT SILLY CRAP ABOUT CLAIMED SCUMBUDDIES AND THE AWESOME DISCUSSION AROUND IT.
And some people wonder why stuff like that doesn't get commented on.

[SocioPath]

Also, Cyberbob, Sociopath = town

Ew.
Last time someone called me town, they were scum.

ALTHOUGH IT IS CERTAINLY EASIER TO CALL SOMEONE TOWN THAN IT IS TO MAKE A CASE ON THEM.

Unvote
Vote: Drippereth

[SocioPath]

unvote, vote:CyberBob

For being rude among other things Confused

GUYS

PLEASE

FOR ME

FOR LOVE

THIS IS CLEARLY A CLEVERLY HIDDEN BREADCRUMB.

DO NOT WORRY I SHALL NOT POINT OUT THAT THE LAST LETTER IN EACH LINE SPELLS:

SEEE

OBVIOUSLY WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT DEALING WITH A TRACKER HERE.

ERASE THAT FROM YOUR MINDS.

[SocioPath]

Who is this MehPlusRawr and why do I hates them so.

And I wouldn't care if there was a spreadsheet showing the fact this is par for the course.

That par would still be scummy.

It really saddens me the surprisingly few number of people that actually realize this.

[SocioPath]

most useless belongs to Socio who is being annoying

Awesome.

I will comment more on this later.

[SocioPath]

Sociopath is all noise, not much else.

Correction: I Am Everything Else.

[SocioPath]

Secret scumtell on Iec in 366.

Unvote
Vote: Iecerint

[SocioPath]

Either its a massive scum driven tactic pushing for one other the other.
Or both are scum and faking drama to cause confusion and chaos.

Or neither are scum.

All I know is if either of them actually replace out of the game, those that pushed them based on reasons they specifically said not to, I will go on a warpath towards those that caused such.

See SIR CYANIDE's topic about being scum trying to force a modkill.

[SocioPath]

Early-game bandwagonning is pro-town, certainly in big games.

Calling your own actions pro-town is never pro-town.

[SocioPath]

If you're playing in a way you would not describe as pro-town, you're doing something wrong.

That is a bit of a false dilemma.

Every action a person takes could be described as pro-town, if the end result is helping them catching scum.

Unvote
Vote: Steam-Powered Shovel

[SocioPath]

SocioPath, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

The Ends Justify The Means.

[SocioPath]

I think the SPS wagon is a good one and that I shall hop on it.

[SocioPath]

I didn't claim trackerwatcher upfront because I didn't want people to know that I have the silmaril which They get if they kill me unless im lynched.

I don't suppose anyone else claims to have the silmaril?

I take issue with this encouragement of more rolefishing.
FFFF is a sinking boat of scum trying to pull as much fish down with him as he can before he hits the bottom.

revive: farside
destroy: xofelf
Vote: FFFF

[SocioPath]

Papa Zito, no Silmaril-fishing. If he does hold the Silmaril, then he could still easily be scum.

Oh don't be so lame. If someone else holds it then he's caught in a lie that no amount of crazy role shenanigans can explain away.

You too SocioPath.

And how would that work out?

A. He does have it, no one CCs, random person on lynch gets THE Silmaril.

B. He doesn't have it, someone CCs AND SIGNS THEIR OWN DEATH WARRENT, because FFFF will still get lynched, and the CCer is now NKbait, unless THEY are then lynched just to randomize THE SIlmaril again.

C. He doesn't have it, no one CCS, HE STILL GETS LYNCHED.


So if that is LAME to you, Zito, than so be it.
What is lame is, 'oh, I am only 95% sure that FFFF is scum, but I would like to bump that up to 99% while painting a target onto someone else's head.'

[SocioPath]

Oh shit I forgot this is a large theme. There are never protective roles in large themes. Dammit. You're right about the big target thing.

Oh shit I forgot this is a large theme. Sane cops always claim on D2 when they have a guilty verdict, because there are always protective roles in large themes. Dammit. You're right about the big target thing.

[SocioPath]

This is how I read 878:

Mufasa/whoot1234 have been banned indefinitely for cheating.

I thought he had bit of a banned player vibe going.

Next we'll find out that MehPlusRawr is him as well...

[SocioPath]

We need to decide on a single one to revive I think. I'm not sure if that means the other three become the dead dead or not though.

Doubt it because of the destroy mechanic. Pretty sure that they are in limbo until we decide on what to do with their bodies.

Destroy: FFFF

As for the amount of death, I wonder which is more likely: Elf Lovers, or 4 different killing mechanics.

[SocioPath]

I've been in a game where Iec has tried misconstruing V/LA's of mine purposely before.

He was scum in that game.

This looks to be more of the same.

Vote: Iec

Vote Count 3 - 01: Lynch

Steam-Powered Shovel - 1 - Jack
xvart -

2

- Kmd4390, Iecerint
Iecerint - 1 - SocioPath

Not Voting (14): Starbuck, farside22, Steam-Powered Shovel, MehPlusRawr, SpyreX, Papa Zito, Cyberbob, xvart, Anon, curiouskarmadog, SensFan, Budja, Cobalt, ooba

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

Vote Count 3 - 01: Revive

Drippereth -

1

- Kmd4390
J-Scope -

1

- Iecerint

Not Voting (16): Starbuck, farside22, Steam-Powered Shovel, MehPlusRawr, SpyreX, Papa Zito, Cyberbob, xvart, Anon, curiouskarmadog, Jack, SensFan, Budja, Cobalt, ooba, SocioPath,

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to revive. If a player has over 10 to Revive, the choice is locked in and that player will be revived and return to the game proper when the lynch resolves.

Vote Count 2 - 01: Destroy

FeFiFoFum -

7

- SpyreX, SocioPath, MehPlusRawr, Jack, ooba, Kmd4390, Iecerint

Not Voting (11): Starbuck, farside22, Steam-Powered Shovel, Papa Zito, Cyberbob, xvart, Anon, curiouskarmadog, SensFan, Budja, Cobalt,

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to destroy. If a player has over 10 to Destroy, the choice is locked in and that player will move

Beyond the Circles of the World

when the lynch resolves.

[SocioPath]

This game.

[SocioPath]

This is bottom of the barrel stuff, even for you.

This shows it isn't:

This game.

[SocioPath]

Also, I don't think I knew SP was V/LA at the time I made the RVS "case" on him, so that's another reason why the analogy is kinda tenuous.

This, this is what makes it aaaaall bullshit.
And why I pushed your case in that game to begin with.

This gem is what makes it all worth while.
That was a different game we were both in.
The only difference is, both games are completed now.
I couldn't cite the bullshit "RVS" case with specific sources at the time, as the other game was still on going.

Fact is, you made a bullshit "RVS" case, and stuck with it, all while continually harping in that I am an inactive player.

You KNEW I was gone, and yet pushed on such.

And you were scum.

You are doing the exact same thing here, ergo, you are scum.

[SocioPath]

ITT Spy tries to lead another town...INTO THE GROUND. >:C
YES I'M BITTER. >:O

[SocioPath]

We could go back to twirling around if you'd prefer I'm cool with that?

I certainly haven't been 'twirling around'.
Maybe in your eyes because you completely disregard anything meta.
But this isn't even random meta pulled from an past game.
This is meta that IEC AS SCUM has USED AGAINST ME.

He said in one game 'Oh SP hasn't posted in 9 days, he is obviously gone.'
And in the other game 'Oh 2 days late to confirm, not even a weekend holiday, reasonable pre-game scumtell.' THEN CLAIMS IGNORANT TO ME BEING GONE.

AND I SEE HIM PULLING THE SAME STUNTS ON XVART.
IEC AS SCUM BLATANTLY MISREPRESENTS META ON PEOPLE FOR PERSONAL GAIN.

YES THIS IS A META ARGUMENT ABOUT META.
DEAL WITH IT.
VOTE STAYS.

[SocioPath]

I don't think you've ever played with me before as town (?).

Please clarify.

[SocioPath]

I'm still getting wanna-be SpyreX from Socio.

This offends me.
SpyreX WISHES he could be half the man I am. >:O
Also, I'm not a wizard of any sort.

[SocioPath]

Eh, hate to dissolve a wagon before it has truly started but this one is also excellent...

Unvote
Vote: SPS

I've stated my reasons, and they are still valid.

[SocioPath]

I've stated my reasons, and they are still valid.

I just ISOed you and all I can find is this exchange:

Shovel: Early-game bandwagonning is pro-town, certainly in big games.
Path: Calling your own actions pro-town is never pro-town.
Shovel: If you're playing in a way you would not describe as pro-town, you're doing something wrong.
Path: That is a bit of a false dilemma. Every action a person takes could be described as pro-town, if the end result is helping them catching scum. Vote: Shovel
Shovel: SocioPath, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Path: The Ends Justify The Means.

Then I seem to have forgotten about it, which is a shame, since it just boils down to a specious reading of one of my statements. You suggest that I consider actions which don't immediately benefit the town as not pro-town even though nothing in my post suggests that. My statement is not in any way inconsistent with "the end justifies the means". In fact, the opposite is true since bandwagonning is all about the end justifying the means.

If you have other reasons for suspecting me, then you haven't mentioned them.

And I still stand by everything I said.

since it just boils down to a specious reading of one of my statements.

Generally thats all it takes.




Lets Steam-Power this Wagon.

This timer

should be accurate in terms of deadline.

Vote Count 3 - 19: Lynch

Steam-Powered Shovel -

7

- Jack, SpyreX, MehPlusRawr, Cobalt, Papa Zito, SocioPath, Anon
xvart - 2 - Iecerint, Kmd4390
Iecerint - 2 - Cyberbob, Starbuck
Jack - 1 - Steam-Powered Shovel
Kmd4390 - 1 - curiouskarmadog
Budja - 1 - xvart
curiousjarmadog - 1 - Budja
Cobalt - 1 - farside22

Not Voting (2): SensFan, ooba

With 18 players alive it'll take 10 to lynch and 9 to no-Lynch.

[SocioPath]

Vote: CKD

Lack of reading comprehension is serious amusing.

Revive: Drip
Destroy: SPS

[SocioPath]

you just trying to jump on the wagon real quick and unnoticed?

Yes, unnoticed to those that don't read.

no sir...Wagon me if you will, thats fine...but you better put a case out there so it can be evaluated later.

No thanks.

[SocioPath]

CIecerint is not a valid player name, Spy.

[SocioPath]

I say full speed ahead on the Anon wagon.

I say this post said more than Anon's post did.

Unvote
Vote: Anon

[SocioPath]

Alright I'm tired of no one listening to me about this.

Kill: Cobalt

Alright I'm tired of no one listening to me about this.

Kill:Iecerint.

...If only it was that easy.

[SocioPath]

IS THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
YES PLZ.

Unvote
Vote: Iec

[SocioPath]

@Socio: what if Iec's town meta is the same as his scum meta in your point?

I highly doubt that Iec abuses meta to falsify information and uses said information to try and cause a lynch as town, but if you can point me in the direction of where he has done such, be my guest.
Until then, his death is something I fight to the death for.

[SocioPath]

Ugh.
If CKD is an elf, AND a SS...
...then he would have -specifically- mentioned such earlier.

Obviously he hasn't.
So this whole SS thing I can't see pan out.

Being able to revive a SS is silly.

A vengeful townie even more so.

[SocioPath]

Yeah it means a double lynch for the town every second day if he could be confirmed innocent in any way.

Not really.

[SocioPath]

But Socio is

confirmed scum

.

THIS IS DUMB AND KMD IS DUMB.

[SocioPath]

Iec isn't an elf.

DRIP WASN'T AN ELF EITHER.

[SocioPath]

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We are taking the UNBREAKABLE alliance, and joining hands, and singing carols.

Then we are going to lynch KMD for trying to break the group up.

Vo

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[SocioPath]

Well that's obnoxious.

SCUMSLIP

Vote: Kmd4390

[SocioPath]

Just die already

NO ONE LIKES YOU, ELFSCUM.

PROOF OF ABILITIES IS NOT PROOF OF ALIGNMENT.

[SocioPath]

THIS IS DUMB AND KMD IS DUMB.

That's not a claim.

OK.
YOU BROKE ME DOWN.
I SHALL FLAVOR CLAIM:

"BARK BARK BARK
BARK BARK
BARK BARK BARK BARK
BARK BARK BARK
ELVES SUCK"

[SocioPath]

Papa Zito I accept the initiation of Unbreakable Alliance: The Anti-Meta Coalition with the following terms and members:

1.) Cyberbob
2.) Sociopath
3.) J-scope
4.) Starbuck

Papa Zito I accept the initiation of Unbreakable Alliance

Unbreakable Alliance

Unbreakable

I FOUND SOMETHING ELSE THAT WASN'T UNBREAKABLE.
MY HEART.

[SocioPath]

Trackers/Watchers still hate me in large games, which I stated on N1 I think.