Mind Screw Mafia 4 (Day 4, Two More Dead!)

[DTMaster]

Vote: Tarhalindur

Since it's my first MS game and I've read the previous ones (mostly) so I know how this goes down. If this doesn't work:

Vote: Tarhalindur
Vote: Tarhalindur
Vote: Tarhalindur
Vote: Tarhalindur
Vote: Tarhalindur

Allow me to test something delightfully

evil

something like Mae :p.

[DTMaster]

Personal notes DTM:

Theory 1: The high number of replacements remind me of that replacement SK role/replacement townie Tar had. I predict a lot of players will be coming in and out in some form, and the above mechanic feels right.

Theory 2: Tar is very prepared for flakers

Also

@Town
I recommend we be very, very, very, very, very active. Role information sez

good things happen if we are active

.

[DTMaster]

We should post the digits of Pi.

Deleted. Don't stretch the page this badly again. - Tar

Pi says: Phate.

This is very important.

Rules Infraction

[DTMaster]

Urk: sorry I stretched
the page. :<

[DTMaster]

ITT there is no such thing as normal sanity. Stop trying to defend it.

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Sowrry.

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Um. I see bait. I see a line. I see a fishing rod MMM.

Modify MMM: Turn into Dust.

Activate coding sequence 65B7U. Create firewall to isolate target from all external forces. Password: Pi is the key to our salvation.

Turn left key.
Press the blue button 3 times.
Input the digits.

Burn MMM Buuuurn Hahahahahahha.

[DTMaster]

Does that code parse with that line?

[DTMaster]

@MMM
What the hell are you talking about? How is a hypothetical-PR using his ability scummy again?

[DTMaster]

Also: I was spamming. :3 Or activing my firewall. But mainly spamming.

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@MMM
No: I have an active goal right now, and you have no confirmation that my ability was real right now.

My goal is to raise the post count of this thread to be as high as it can go and it's essential for me to do such

So yeah, about 99% - 100% of my posts have been spam .

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@MMM
10000 posts. We are going to break the longest thread record here and I will do this.

[DTMaster]

Hmmm. Is it me, or is MMM very curious about my alignment/role/power. I'm just going to claim: It is part of my personal win condition.

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@MMM
Interesting. When I read your post: I see the "You could be a liability". But your motives are questionable. I cannot post 10k posts alone good sir. I'd might as well post letters, and numbers at random, with each individual post contributing to a sentence to fulfill my self win condition. But your comment, I feel that it's laced with malicious intent.

Your PM, if it leads to the lynch of scumz, should be posted. Otherwise, you can use your judgement.

@Cobalt
It's a self win condition on top of my full win condition. Aka. I need to fulfill two requirements to win this game personally. (hint hint: I just gave something away).

Chalk one up for the Cobalt and MMM fishermen.

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In ter esting. Ani can I trust you?

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@Kinetic
Sorry, your bait isn't tasty enough.

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Dramanic can I trust you?

[DTMaster]

I'm going to reveal that french fries are important to this game.

[DTMaster]

This does reveal that for today: there are no weird vote mechanics. Mod mistake pending:

We might have an nonvoter/a person who lost a vote if this isn't a mistake. It's also votes to lynch (i think). Whew. No insanities.

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By the way, crisps are very important. I'm not joking. This is seriously not spam.

[DTMaster]

Interesting. I also have information as well, but I require Ani's or Dracs feed back as well. I've been dropping hints to what it was, in the last 10 minutes.

[DTMaster]

Ok Dramonic I'm going to reveal my role to you via now. I'm going to need this power back (OMG DTM HAS AN ITEM). When I give you my item, I will claim my information. Do not tell the town what my item does. Also: Do not lynch Tar as of now:

Unvote

[DTMaster]

Ok I sent my item. I claim:

I have a hot potato in my possession. Someone gave it to me at post 140. If I die now, that person who targeted me is scum. Dramonic, the item is very important to me.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic. I'm leaving my legacy to you if the hot potato explodes on me. Trust me, when you receive it you'll understand why I want 10k posts.

[DTMaster]

Now we should totally lynch scumz while we wait. I'm going to attack the fishermen nao. But I'll start with

Vote: Cobalt

[DTMaster]

Who is random?

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@Cobalt

Invoke: Spirits of the Fourm. Code 76YUJB. Activate: Bloody Mess Program 2.981

Input code.
Turn the key right.
Press the red button, left button, and blue button.
Chant: In Pi we find salvation.

[DTMaster]

Kinetic: Don't you mean radier?

[DTMaster]

They haven't posted yet, but the recent pages has been hyper activity. I don't find that an indication of scum between them.

[DTMaster]

Your welcome. If anyone wants to check for active lurkers we should totally use:

http://www.msutils.net/search.php

[DTMaster]

Starbuck posted in fourm today.

Mod- Tar- God- However you want to be named:

Bogre last posted on March 12th. He might have flaked from the site? Or is that me

He picked up his role PM... but on review, he has NOT confirmed. I'll replace him if he hasn't confirmed by tomorrow.

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But no comment that I just claimed to be the recipient of a Hot potato?

No comment on the fact I think Starbuck or Bogre aren't scum due to their non posting? Or that I think Bogre flaked.

No comment on the fact that I think MMM/Cobalt/Kin are fishy for their role fishing?

No comment on the fact that I trust Dramonic to be town?


I'm pretty sure I'm putting more then noise down.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic when I give the cue, do return this. Or I will hunt you down in cold blood. "winks"

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But I disagreed with the first wagon. :S

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@Dram

I will send the cue to when I want it back.

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@Cobalt

So I can have my little mini cobalt?

[DTMaster]

Dram I'd prefer pre-use.

[DTMaster]

Certainly:

Unvote (if I haven't already)
Vote: MMM

[DTMaster]

@Dramonic
Just important to me. If I die, you can use it to your hearts content. :3 I'll think about it, but I'll require that you post the result if you do use it. It's a requirement.

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H: 3 5 9 T J
S: [VOID]
D: 5 7 9
C: 4 9

I know I said I wanted to reach 10k posts, but real life is a bitch. My current thoughts:

@Mao's post
With Tar's track record, all I can say he's insane. This could be a hint, a bomb, a herring, or all three.

@MMM
1. Before some revelations, I was suspicious about your inquiries into my role. However some developments leave me wanting to wait for the mod count. If what I think happens is true: you be town.

Also chips?

Edit: Ugh... ><;; Le tarded.

@Drac
This is the que, for the ball to return into play.

@Coug
Yes, that is the basis of my attack. But I'd like to leave things turned around if I say so myself.

@Flava
I meant this game is insane. Cops can be insane/sane/paranoid/naive, but Tar has a track record of making cops, the game breaker, limited in power.

Sanity is something you would need to find out yourself.

@Starbuck
Um. I just defended you against Cobalt. Cobalt has the issue with you not posting. I said that you posted else where and that the 10 pages of day 1 isn't indicative of you being an active lurker because it's mainly hyper activity inflating the post count. Read, again.

Vote Snow Bunny

FoS: UncertianKitten

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Oh whoops. I posted my hand in hearts

Tar, can you delete the numbers above. I was saving my post since you locked the tread in mid of my post :p

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@Cobalt

Ani claimed his win con is to obtain 5 items. Do you want ani to take the scythe or something?

[DTMaster]

Cobalt.

If you are town, why aren't you grabbing it. :p

[DTMaster]

Edit: Kinetic beat me. Ani is slow on the ball. Dramonic I require your services. I will hunt you down in cold blood. :3

[DTMaster]

Starbuck is too slow to the punch. haha.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic is scum. I am armed and ready to kill you with all the force necessary to do so.

Arms himself

[DTMaster]

Actually Dramonic. I demand a Name and Series claim From you.

[DTMaster]

If Dramonic refuses either the above two conditions. I will full claim my grounds to believe why he is scum. My item reveals my role to him. :p

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: I should say that it reveals a power to compliment my role.

[DTMaster]

I first need the Dramonics to present his soul so I can judge accordingly. :p

[DTMaster]

HOLD ON. Dramonic. Name claim. Series Claim. Now. Return the item to me, or claim now.

Otherwise MMM is an anti-miller.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic: Why didn't you tell us the serious complications of this earlier!!!

[DTMaster]

Kinetic: Yes. Only if Dramonic is telling the truth. I'm obviously claiming investigation powers via my item. Now if Dramonic doesn't claim now/return the item now, he is scumz.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic: It's because it happened happened 15 minutes ago. MMM flipped a role that wasn't shown via my item. You are playing dumb you are scum. I am full claiming my item's role.

My item: Can learn the true name of a character's role. Dramonic said that MMM was Simon was from Gurran Laguen. But Simon flipped Susan. The fact that Dramonic has not come to the conclusion that MMM was an antimiller (aka scum who flipped town and a fake role) is taxing my patience.

Give me it back. Or claim your name/series.

unvote

vote: dramonic

[DTMaster]

Dramonic: Claim now.

[DTMaster]

Tenth doc, doctor who

Who are you?[/quote]

[DTMaster]

Tenth doc, doctor who

Who are you?

[DTMaster]

While this is pending:

I would like a Mass Name Claim and Series claim. I can verify each and everyone's roles every 350 posts. Shall we begin?

[DTMaster]

No a Name and Series Name is Perfect for me. As you can see.

[DTMaster]

Not to me. Trust me.

[DTMaster]

Fine. Just posting helps in any case.

[DTMaster]

Unvote

Vote Snow Bunny

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Dramonic: Because I can verify it, obviously, with my other ability as you can see above.

You sir, failed to connect my item to MMM. Why aren't you freaking out right now? MMM could have been a an anti-miller. You know what my items does. Huh?

[DTMaster]

Frankly. I don't trust you right now.

[DTMaster]

Oh hai, when did you check MM's role again? What post number.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic: Big question right now. Am I scummy because I'm assuming he's an anti-miller. Or do you don't like my attitude.

[DTMaster]

Dramonic. 357 is Seraphim's post. Did you Learn the name of Seraphim or MMM.

[DTMaster]

Kinetic: Don't butt in right now. Dramonic has a crucial question to answer to me.

[DTMaster]

Dram. There is an issue because you didn't get a rules infraction.

Since I've decided that this should be in role PM reminder text after all... when using an ability with the Rapid Action quality, you MUST include the post count on which you want it to be used, on pain of [REDACTED - RULE 0].

Which makes me think that you didn't use my toy, and that you are trying to discredit my toy's power.

[DTMaster]

Unvote

Vote: Dramonic

[DTMaster]

Remember the time I got a rules infraction. I gave you an item around that time. Guess why I got the infraction for.

[DTMaster]

Dram: How did you get a result then huh?

[DTMaster]

Quote Tar

12) Why does it say that I need to send in the post count on which I want to use my ability?

Because some roles... wait a minute... where did you hear this again? I think a member of our glorious revolution needs to be sent to the reeducation camps... lackeys shouldn't be sending information that requires ultraviolet clearance to those without ultraviolet clearance...

Hmmz?

[DTMaster]

Actually we should inquire.

@Tar

Define Rapid Action please

Action that resolves immediately upon receipt.

[DTMaster]

Which is why I'm hmmming.

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@Kinetic
I have a theory right now, and it makes sense for scum-Dram point of view. But it calls into question the sanity of my item, the accuracy of MMM's flip, and if I believe Dram is telling the truth.

If Dram didn't use my item, it's because he has another ability that he'd rather use. If he's scum, he wouldn't need to use my item because for scum to know just a name and their series is useless. Scum want role names, my item doesn't give that.

@Dram
Did you officially say you'd give my item back hm? Ah, not that it matters right now since I'm pending.

[DTMaster]

HOLD UP: I JUST GOT MY RESULT AND DRAMATIC's ROLE DOES NOT EXIST: I GOT NO RESULT ON HIS ROLE NAME

!!!!

Unvote

Vote : DRAMATIC

I will catch up asap.

[DTMaster]

er... Dramonic :p

[DTMaster]

I will full claim now: I am Nodoka Miyazaki (from Mahou Sensei Negima) the Townie Mindreader.

Remember my post earlier: where in blue I asked Who are you? I can verify role names and I am a modified role cop.

When I quoted Dramonic's role claim, my result came back as: No result was given. If I am given a real role name I am given a modified PM of the person's full role. This power compliments my item's power as a role cop/townie mind reader. If I quote a false role claim, my powers will fail.

Dramonic is lying. Lynch him nao.

[DTMaster]

If it helps: Dram never returned my item. Tar never notified me of this. :p

[DTMaster]

My thoughts before the lynch

@Kinetic
Sworrryryyy. I couldn't post yesterday. :<

@Ani
Ani's claim is SKerific. I will be willing to give you my item if this turns out to be true but tomorrow I would like to confirm your claim.

Edit: Oh, nevermind. I'm keeping my item from Dram so we're going to race to the finishline when he dies.

@Kai
I remember in Legacy of the Ancient Tar allowed PM quoting, but the role mechanics were very complex in that game.

@DRAM
OMG THE HELL? WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY ITEM YOU BASTARD! How dare you.

@Seraphim
As carrier of the item I trust that you'll post the results so I can verify them. You can verify why I attacked Dramonic early today as you can see.

@Flava
I hope my claim tells you why I personally wanted to use the item, why I wanted Dram to claim, why I freaked out about anti-miller assumption, etc.

Fos: Dramonic

if I need to Fos you.

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@hp
Yes. That and the neutral claim.

[DTMaster]

Guys there is a green goo on the loose and I've become gooed. I lost my ability to role reveal. I also don't have my item since Seraphim has it. Will reread shortly since Dram vanished. :< I'm quoting my role PM since it's allowed.

You were with Negi, in the Magic World... you were fighting an ancient, powerful mage by the name of Dynamis... and then you woke up here... did Dynamis defeat you? Is this the Becoming World? Are you separated from your teacher forever?

NO. Not if you have anything to say about it.

You are Nodoka Miyazaki, treasure hunter and member of Ala Alba. Your counterattack starts here.

Welcome to Mind Screw Mafia 4,

DTMaster

. You are

Nodoka Miyazaki (from Mahou Sensei Negima)

, explorer of ancient and dangerous ruins (such as the local school library), middle school student, and mind reader. That last one might come in pretty handy in this mindfrak of a reality, especially now that you've retrieved one of the items you were looking for...

You are a

Townie Mind Reader

. You have the following special abilities:

At Will Abilities:

Vote

- You may vote other players by posting

Vote: PLAYERNAME

in the thread.

Grab Item

- You may grab a loose item by posting

Grab: ITEMNAME

in the thread. If two or more players use this action for the same item, only the first works.

Change Avatar:

You may change your avatar by posting

Avatar Change

in the thread. Changing your avatar without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].

Change Location

- You may change your location

(your location can be found under your avatar and is set via Profile)

by posting

Location Change

. Changing your location without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].

Change Signature

- You may change your signature by posting

Signature Change

in the thread. Changing your signature without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].

Passive Abilities:

Treasure Hunter

- You begin the game with the item

Daemonia Comptina

.

Legends of the Hidden Temple

- You know that the item

Auris Lectans

is in the game.

Active Abilities:

Diarium Ejus

- Each game day, you may make a post in the thread containing a character name in black bold text

(name and series of origin; for example, your character name in bold is

Nodoka Miyazaki (from Mahou Sensei Negima)

)

, exactly one block of text quoted from a post made by another player, and the question

Who are you?

in blue text

(this post may contain any number of other words, and may even contain votes, but cannot contain a quote from a second player)

. If you name the quoted player's character name correctly, you will learn that player's full role name and a brief, humorous summary of their character's motivations.

(I will PM you with this information)

. This is a Rapid Action

it resolves immediately upon receipt)

. Please note that this ability is considered an investigative ability that targets the quoted player.

Starting Items:

Comptina Daemonia

You have acquired the

Comptina Daemonia

! This ancient artifact allows those who bear it to find the true identity of others! Surely this can be of use...

Item Abilities:

Grant Item (At Will)

At any time, you may target another player. You will give the Comptina Daemonia to that player. This is a Rapid Action

(it resolves immediately upon receipt)

. You may use this ability at will, and using this ability never counts towards limits on the number of activated abilities you can use in a given time period.

Learn Name (Active)

- Every 350 posts, you may target a player. You will learn that player's character name

(name and series of origin)

.

Please note that you may only use one activated ability (of your role or of an item you posses) per 500 posts, and that this restriction applies on top of any usage restrictions defined in your abilities themselves.

Win Condition (Town):

You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Avatar change

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@Cobalt

The wording is unclear so I'm pming Chairman to clarify actually. I just reread it and it either sounds like:

I got gooed at 432 and it didn't take effect until I used my ability or I got gooed at 432 and I reverted back to normal.

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It was an action that was missed apparently in the post fest. I also believe that Dramonic will return at 1500 posts based on his interger number count. If Candle Jack is correct, that means my ability got redirected onto someone else, which makes sense to why my results failed.

[DTMaster]

No: Goo and Avatar Change are different events.

[DTMaster]

Also: I suspect that Mafia are operating on a post count restriction due to the lack of night kills. How many posts passed between the multiple day kills again?

[DTMaster]

Tar's Xylbot comment made me remember the role:

XylBot Green Goo (town, survivor; common; 4+ players): Whenever a player targets you with an action, they will become green goo themselves.

Ignore the allignment thing since it's for IRC Mafia but I believe that:

a. Dram is actually his role and he will come back. Remember Haruhi Mafia with The Time Traveler? Seraphim should remember.

b. Both of us got "randomized" to the goo, via Jack's hypothesis. Or we got redirected to the goo.

c. I suggest the goo claims now because we can unlock the pattern if these actions are simply redirected.

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@Col
Splitter? As in multi-target?

@Kai
I just thought of something: if someone else had a bag of holding, and went inside your bag of holding... Would you blow up? (/DND refrence)

@Flava

Page 29
Mae, "that's not usually how it works" in a Tar game? Seriously?

Ok, DT has damning results on Dramonic. Awesome. He dies tomorrow.

Dramonic's response is bad enough that I want to lynch him over the claimed neutral. Unvote, Vote Dramonic

Given that we now know that we most likely have a redirector, doesn't this part of Flava's 780 look really, really opportunistic. He just said that I claimed damning results on Dramonic, then changed voted even though he already expressed preference with lynching Ani.

Yes: claimed neutral + cop claim against someone = easy wagons, but Flava's vote switch is pretty bad in comparison to the other wagoners.

@Candle
Hey, since this is your idea. Was Ozmund scum?

@Mae
Who did you target? I got the glasses obv, but did you target someone else?

[DTMaster]

"cough" Mae isn't cult if she affected me. I got avatar changed into Kamina Glasses, but lets wait for Mae's actions first.

[DTMaster]

Wut? Did you try to face palm me but failed?

[DTMaster]

Tar announced the kill at 364 and 646 with vanished. I'm predicting the next kill to be eligable around 900 - 950 ish given the pattern of that kill.

Tar announced soul reap at 591

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@Cobalt
"cough" People. If Mae was a cult, I would also "culted" and Mae isn't. I was gooed and avatar changed. What Mae claimed though: about the Jailing powes make no sense since I was instructed to just change my avatar but I didn't lose my abilities unless the Goo already negated this effect.

We should treat Mae as if she claimed Jailkeeper. Why the bloody hell are you pushing the lynch of a semi-claimed protection role??!

@Shotty
Tar is having difficulties actions, he made 2 errors on Kinetic already and it took forever for my result to come in. The mechanics are massive.

[DTMaster]

Actually: Mae's role is confirmable since:

Mae: Action now since you are a rapid action

[DTMaster]

Guys: Mae claimed protective role. Stop these votes now. Are you daft?

[DTMaster]

Hp. No it's not. I got gooed at 432. Cobalt got gooed at 434. Did cobalt wear Kamina Glasses? No. I got avatar changed as a result of the day ending.

HP is scumbag

Vote: Hp

[DTMaster]

OMG. PEOPLE READ. GOO AND AVATAR CHANGE ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE EVENTS. COBALT CLAIMED HE WAS GOOED. I CLAIM GOO. WE GOT GOOED at 432 and 434 RESPECTIVELY.

I WAS FORCED TO CHANGE MY AVATAR AT THE END of DAY 1 as noteded by my AVATAR CHANGE at the endofday1.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt: Becacuse I'm not cult obviously. If you assume Mae cult, I the recipient would be the recruitee. But I'm not. Thus from my PoV Mae is telling thetruth. Obviously the other interpetation is I'm defending my cult leader, but if Mae is a third party she is not a cult.

To me Candle Jack looks like a lyncher.

[DTMaster]

Oh wait I missed the goo part. Le, sigh.

[DTMaster]

Actually I combined Mae and Snow as one person in my head. Let's look at the old lynch list:

1) Kinetic (0) -
2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (0) -
5) Bogre (0) -
6) Starbuck (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (0) -
11) animorpherv1 (0) -
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (0) -
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (0) -
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (0) -
22) Mysterious Mystery Man (0) -
23) inHimshallibe (0) -
24) Maemuki (0) -
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (0) -

I notice that Dram is 2 above Snow. Cobalt did you target Dram?

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt
Lol, duRhhhhhh. But not. We should be lynching scumz, not the 3rd party jail keeper.

@Snow
You are mostlikely town/survivor. The end. Scum is going to avoid you like the plauge but I believe Snow is Townie.

[DTMaster]

Zomg, the lack of alignment change is good enough for me. I'm not condoning this lynch. Use VC as a point against me but I'm going scumz hunting. We are approaching kill threshhold.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt: If Mae was a cult leader, I would be culted. I'm saying

my alignment didn't change when I had to change my avatar

Do you understand this? The rest of the town can hammer wagon all they like, but I don't believe that Mae is a cult leader.

Now we lynch scumz.

[DTMaster]

"cough" Who's avatar got changed? "cough" Who claimed ability to grant Kamina Glasses "cough" me.

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: Mae claimed avatar changing powers. I obviously changed my avatar. Hello, earth to HP. 1 + 1 = wut again?

[DTMaster]

Ok let me break down the current cult argument for people that require more then my statements, aka a case.

@Mae: At this point we have this information:
1. You can force people to wear Kamina glasses.
2. There is a cult in the game.
3. The cult's win condition is based on Kamina glasses.

1.

Dude, Quit Hogging the Cool! - Each day, you may target a player other than yourself that is wearing Kamina glasses in his or her avatar. That player loses all role abilities except for factional abilities and gains protection from role abilities ("You cannot be affected by role abilities in any way, shape, or form") until the next time a player is lynched or until that player stops wearing Kamina glasses in his or her avatar, whichever comes first. This is a Rapid Action (it resolves immediately upon receipt).

See the last part: We can role confirm her. I should be able to get my avatar back after

a lynch occurs

Hmm. Hello wut? A cult that loses their recruit after a lynch?

2. and 3.

Ok lets see: Mae claimed recruiting powers via here:

Okay, right, I can force people to wear Kamina glasses. But that's related to my ability (which, btw, I'm not going to say what it is right now.). If a person has Kamina glasses, even if I don't force them, I can use my ability. (I'll make this sure to you though - it's not a killing ability.) It's similiar to Kairyuu's, actually. The factional part I don't understand, though. Maybe it's somebody that can take advantage of my ability.

Vague interpretation clarified by the ability claim. Now lets see.... where did the

cult information come from?

So why is Jack confirmed pro-town info cult hunter again?

Oh, and Cobalt? Animorph can wait - I think Maemuki just claimed Cult, probably the recruiter to boot. (I have rolebased that there is a Cult in this game and that its win condition is related to Kamina avatars.)

Candle Jack requires to claim. Mae requires to claim. The only thing we are basing this on is "loose role information" that Jack says there is a cult via glasses. I know there is no win condition via glasses. We should totally lynch scumz.


Aside:
Plum: She found a role name

but she didn't claim it

Also I used the Comptina Daemonia because I got freaked out that . . . oh crud, it's a post-count based action, so Day ending wouldn't affect things, I think. Welp, I got a result which might've been auto-redirected and shortly after Day 2 started shipped it out to Candle Jack (or tried to).

@Town
No, I refuse to lynch Mae. You can convince scumz to lynch Mae. Scumz hate cult. I'm scum huntingz.

[DTMaster]

@Mae

post role pm. I could. Dram did. do it nao.

[DTMaster]

@Fraction
Scum can hide behind 4 easy wagons right now. Ani-neutral. Mae- who looks like a cult but isn't, Tar-mod, Chairman-mod. Hmm. They had another easy one yesterday via my role result on Dram. Hmm. If we VC analysis + iso: there are scum with the easy wagon.

Flava is one person of interest as I mentioned before. I'm sure there are others.

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt
If Mae doesn't flip cult. Then I laugh upon your grave. ha ha ha.

[DTMaster]

@Plum
Good enough reasoning.

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt
You do realize

we can role confirm Mae

[DTMaster]

I'm going to ask first since I need permission to change it.

[DTMaster]

Actually

Starbuck: We can confirm this now. Ask about the Cult

!!!

[DTMaster]

Because I was told that I am only able to use this avatar until the end of the game/other wise told. If this is true: then there might be something else going on.

[DTMaster]

TRUTH

[DTMaster]

Starbuck: You can confirm Mae Scum or potentially Misleading Candle Jack third party. The fact that your queston:

Yes there is "technically" a recruitment power puts into doubt Cults. How can something be "technical" in regards to cult mechanics.

[DTMaster]

@Ani
I'd rather ask now, then get a rules infraction later.

[DTMaster]

No. Cobalt. How about no.

[DTMaster]

No. Let me confirm this bloody mechanic.

[DTMaster]

@Kai/Ani/Snow

Actions are all randomized based on my claim/cobalt's claim/dram's claim of our actions

a. My target to role cop Dram failed.
b. Dram failed to give me back my item.
c. Dram found the true name of someone else.
d. Cobalt didn't target Dram but both me and cobalt targeted Snow.

The main priority should be lynching scum/this randomizer before we can make use of target abilities.

I should note that I successfully gave Dram my item early on in the game, which is an indicator that Candle's theory is a role ability that is activated via post count.

@Fraction

"cough" Remember what I said: Scum has easy wagons. I claimed incriminating evidence against Dram. (ie day 1 cop claim). Ani claimed neutral. Mae is getting the cult-tunnel vision.

[DTMaster]

Ok I have 2 conclusions now:

1. Mae is lying about her actions.
2. Mae actually recruited someone else because

I cannot change my avatar

. The heck??? :S

[DTMaster]

@Seraphim
I SAID THIS EARLIER. :<<<<<<<<<<<< (has no credit)

@Zazie
I was gooed at that post but it took effect once I used my ability (recall I role copped Dram). If Candle's theory is right: my target was 2 slots above SB and I got gooed because of this. Cobalt didn't target Dram though. :<

Lastly: I'm not a cult. Grr. Rawr. "scratches"

@Ortlan
Or that because I'm not culted, Mae is the only role to explain why I have Kamina Glasses. But my lack of avatar changing conflicts with Mae's claim, which gets me confused.

@Flava
For someone who was posting regularly, you disspeared. Why.

@Plum
Hold on: You targeted Jack and gave the item successfully?

@Radier
Why is this post so blatantly scummy. It's designed to frame me.

1. I'm not recruited.
2. Tar says I can't change my avatar.
3. Something forced me to change it, until otherwise told.

Raider
a. If you think I'm culted, why the hell did you ask me this question?
b. You would be voting Mae
c. You aren't voting Mae.

Raider is beating around the bush via a stick on the cult issue. Harro, wut now?

@Fraction
We've been over this

Dram is highly town. My role cop ability got randomized. Learn to keep up

[DTMaster]

Things to claim:

1. I got by CD back and I can confirm roles? Plum said she targeted me to give back the CD.
2. Now I'm strictly confused I had thought the "vanished without a trace" was a scum action based on the targets/timing/etc. Me thinks SK.
3. Based on flavour, I think HP dropped the ban hammer.


@Zazier
Actually I lied in my 10k post win-con and you win townie brownie points. I wanted to gain more posts due to the ability of the CD and my role-cop powers via post counts that I pretended to have a secondary win condition.

However due to Dram's behaviour/randomization of day 1, Snow's gooing, etc this has generally made my role very, very, very moot.

@Town
I am not the bloody cult. UGH. For serious. My alignment did not change all game. Mae's role is seriously a surprise to me.

[DTMaster]

If you are going to hammer allow me to use the CD before I die. Sheesh.

[DTMaster]

Wait: Shotty? You Ban hammered SB?

Reck can you confirm Shotty's claim when the banhammer gets to your hand? I was under the impression HP hammered SB.

[DTMaster]

Also:

Cobalt lied when he said he didn't target Dramonic and he got gooed.

[DTMaster]

Radier: I full claimed. Unless someone is going to investigate me right now (which is why I asked Starbuck to ask for a cult) the only thing you can do is force a flip on me. Duhh. The other thing is that I can give out the CD and someone can confirm my name/series but that doesn't confirm my alignment.

I'd rather not out any other investigators good sir. You sir are fail.

[DTMaster]

Um:

9) Snow_Bunny, Agatha Heterodyne (from Girl Genius), Banhammered Day 1 (post 715), Died Day 2

^^ Wut?

[DTMaster]

Oh I see it. This makes your claim very creditable. I have a theory (that the hammer is recieved by the target). Thus: Plum can confirm you role wise.

Shotty = very pro-town. Going to investigate Ortlan which is two above Cobalt since we have:

2 people saying (3 with Candle) that its 2 slots above the people for the target. 1 Person saying no.

[DTMaster]

Err sorry. EBWOP: I just reread. Reck picked up the hammer. You picked up the Mec.

In before Giga Drills.

[DTMaster]

@Reck
What are you confused about?

@I skimmed over HP
It looks like HP scum was focused on cult hunting (via Mae) and Ani lynching. Scum are on those wagons.

I also would like to do a victory dance that I called him out earlier. <3.... "dances"

[DTMaster]

No. My alignment didn't change. I only know that I'm forced to use this avatar that Tar provided to me. Hence I cannot change it.

I thought Mae recruited me since she explained why I got glasses. She even claimed to target Seraphim which is 2 above me and fits with Shotty, and my claim. So everything says Mae caused my glasses. But I don't understand why I'm not a cult member. :S

1) Kinetic (0) -
2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (0) -
5) Bogre (0) -
6) Starbuck (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (0) -
11) animorpherv1 (0) -
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (0) -
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (0) -
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (0) -
23) inHimshallibe (0) -
24) Maemuki (0) -
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (0) -

This is an earlier vote. Hey... guess what. Even as a cult Mae uncovered

LYING COBALT

Vote: Cobalt

Actually, I'm going to ask if I can change my avatar now since Mae died.

[DTMaster]

@SG

Ani posted his "real" pm already. Strike two at SG.

[DTMaster]

Question: DGB why did you post in a game that you aren't in. And thanks (?)

[DTMaster]

Busted. I'll pretend I didn't see that.

@Reck
I noticed you didn't know Starbuck Died. I don't know if this is a town tell, but it looks favorable on you.

[DTMaster]

Gais we have an invisable voter.

The Eleventh Vote Count (aka the "Kamina Vs. Captain Falcon, Round 1, FIGHT!" Vote Count)
2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (0) -
5) Bogre (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (0) -
11) animorpherv1 (1) - Plum
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (1) - DTMaster
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (0) -
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (0) -
24) Maemuki (14) - SocioPath, Maemuki, hp [leaves], animorpherv1, StrangerCoug, xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Flava Flave, Cobalt, Cobalt, Cobalt, Fraction Jackson
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (0) -

Death is upon us. Plus Cobalt is a triple voter? We are missing 2 votes.

[DTMaster]

@Raider
You sir are scum. Reck if the Banhammer is a killing item please kill this man. He is being very dense to the point of scummy. (THIS MAN IS PLAYING DUMB).

I quoted the vote count when I said there were missing votes.

PLEASE NOTE THERE ARE 12 VOTES ON MAE BUT TAR COUNTED 14

Meaning 2 votes are unaccounted for.

Unvote

Vote: Raider

Die scum die.

@Zazier
Ok, that explains 1/2 invisible votes. I'm paying attention to the next vote count

@SG/Flava
Those votes read as scum trying to not put all their eggs on the same wagon.

@Zazier
ZOMG: I Claimed I was Hot Potatoed at the start of the game. I gave Dram my item. Plum gained my item. MY ITEM DROPPED in thread already. I got it back. You are linking my item unnecessarily to Shotty. That is scummy because you would need to say

Tar the mod who announced my item that dropped in the game is lying himself

.

I also answered your question. I told you again, second time. I lied when I said i needed 10k posts because I wanted to get more investigations in. My pm that I quoted is my full pm. Zazier you fail to read.

@Cobalt
Wait... you targeted me? and You got gooed? Harro, we have 4 pieces of evidence that say you couldn't have. The only explanation is: Mae lied her target (plausible since she was cult). I lied before I got avatar changed. Shotty lied with his banning powers. Dram lied before he got lynched.

Remember when Dram tried to give me the item?

1) Kinetic (0) -
2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (1) - Kairyuu
5) Bogre (0) -
6) Starbuck (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (2) - Fraction Jackson, inHimshallibe
11) animorpherv1 (0) -
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (0) -
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (1) - inHimshallibe
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (1) - Fraction Jackson
22) Mysterious Mystery Man (0) -
23) inHimshallibe (1) - Kairyuu
24) Maemuki (0) -
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (1) - Seraphim

Inhim was 2 spots below me.

When Inhim died. He dropped the CD.

23) inHimshallibe, Gendo Ikari (from Neon Genesis Evangelion), Townie Avatar Specialist, was Soul Reaped Day 1

The Comptina Daemonia is on the ground.

Hey guess what, this happened throughout day 1.Do you know what I think. I think scum is immune to the randomization. Cobalt. I think you are scum.

Unvote

Vote: Cobalt

[DTMaster]

Hai guys, Lynch the lying Cobalt scumz. Kthanks.

[DTMaster]

No. However there are 4 role actions that are stacked against your claim. One of them came from a guy we lynched too.

[DTMaster]

Actually, the better question is, was Day 1 always randomized? Plum you targeted me to give the CD back right?

[DTMaster]

Yes. It's obviously a global effect because 4 non related people already demonstrated the trend that Candle Jack talked about. Harro. You are being unnecessarily dense.

I was judging this based on the targets of the kill. MMM died suspiciously when he was trying to do his vote/powers on SB. The timing of it bugged me.

[DTMaster]

Oh yes I am still gooed. But I used my item. I'm still waiting.

[DTMaster]

Yes. I asked Chairman if I was still gooed. She said yes. Cobalt, you said you targeted me. Remember? That means that you didn't target me day 1 you would have targeted Ihim. You would have needed to target

SERAPHIM

.

As demonstrated by Dramonic/Scott/me/Mae

Now if you are calling me a liar, you would need to prove that Scott/Dram are cult buddies/scum buddies/etc.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt: You claimed to target me, not Seraphim. Yet you still believe in the randomization theory? Wut? Harro earth to Cobalt

how do you know you weren't randomized when you targeted me at 434

At the start of the day 2

I claimed goo and you said this was correct. I even said that I am still gooed throughout day 2 but only now you think I'm scummy for something you had no issues with. You confirmed that my avatar and gooing were separate effects EARTH TO COBALT WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS ALL OF LAST DAY

Yo

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt

The wording is unclear so I'm pming Chairman to clarify actually. I just reread it and it either sounds like:

I got gooed at 432 and it didn't take effect until I used my ability or I got gooed at 432 and I reverted back to normal.

No: Goo and Avatar Change are different events.

Hey Cobalt remember this? ^^^ See this??? Start of the day. ^^^^^ I told you.

[DTMaster]

Wut... you targeted me just now?

I didn't bloody ask you if you targeted me now I asked you who did you target around 434!

The hell?

[DTMaster]

No: Goo and Avatar Change are different events.

this is the right answer.
I was goo'd at post 434.
Is dramonic targetable?

Harro.

[DTMaster]

It never occurred to me that my targeting of you might have succeeded until recently.

Answer this ^^ what did you mean about recently.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt.

TL:DR:

a. Do you still think I'm lying in the last page where you "removed the goo" which is a correct description of the goo effect.
b. Did you really target me at 434?
c. What did you mean that the targeted activity just succeeded recently?

[DTMaster]

Cobalt.
d. Recall what I posted on day 2. I asked Mao. The wording was unclear but I still have the goo.
e. How do you know your ability wasn't shifted?
f. How do you know the randomization is an active ability?
g. Is Scott/Dramonic lying then? (Mae was cult-scum but she supports this theory.)
h. How do you know this was busing when 4 people claimed this.
i. I think Plum/Seraphim can confirm this when the CD dropped too.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt: You just admitted that people should target 2 above to you confirm your gooed status. But you believe you weren't shifted. WUTUTUAUTuatua!

[DTMaster]

I asked if you still think I'm lying about my Gooed Status.

Did you think that there could be multiple people with gooed effects?

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt
Actually by the same tolken you can confirm my gooiness by the same way.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt:

You said you think you weren't shifted. You must know something because all the evidence in the role actions submitted by 4 people (and investigated by Seraphim/CJ and Plum which is another 3 who believe this is the case and were testing this) say that everyone's actions got shifted 2 rows down.

Hell, 4 confirmed, 3 testing. If the CD got passed to Seraphim at any point this confirms the above.

Earlier you said this might have been busing.

ITT we discover DTM is lying cult. When someone targets you, and you are goo'd, you lose the goo. I got the goo by targeting DTMaster. Unless I was bus'd, or DTM was bus'd, he shouldn't have the goo.[/b]

Which would mean the person who bussed would be gooed and neither of us would be gooed if this wasn't a result of shifting. This is impossible because neither of us would have gotten the goo and the goo is passed on based on us targeting someone who has this status. This also implies you think the randomization was the fact of an active ability.

Lastly: I said I targeted Dram, which I showed when I quoted Dramatic to investigate. This meant that I inadvertently targeted SB. Harro.

Cobalt:

how do you know you weren't randomized/shifted/blah

[DTMaster]

@Haylen

Are you the mystery mystery voter?

[DTMaster]

Paraphrase what happened. I've been claiming goo/potatoed/giving items away/results/etc.

[DTMaster]

1.Cobalt read my Role PM. My results failed whens someone lies about their role. That was why we lynched Dramonic, was because I failed to get a result on Dramonic's role claim.

UGH YOU ARE DENSE.

By ability is a target ability. I investigated Dram with his role claim. This got moved to me Targeting Snow with Dram's role claim. The result failed because SB wasn't the Doctor from Doctor Who.

This is also why I think Dram is town, yadda yadda. Actually you are playing unnecessarily dense because you are asking questions that involve the lynch of Dramonic and why I said he was scum. Someone isn't paying attention aka scum who is busy following easy wagons.

2.If a Bus driver targeted SB and me and you targeted me, that means I wouldn't have the goo in the first place and you and the BD would have the goo.

Why would I bloody claim to have a green goo when I didn't have it in the first place

You are correct in the action order. You are dumb on the implications of what that means. Is that what you are seriously implying now?

Lastly: I said: if you think a BD targeted both of us or with SB run the scenerios through.

If the BD targeted player A and SB unless the person self targeted, that means Cobalt or DTM shouldn't have the goo. One of us shouldn't have the goo initially.

Cobalt are you claiming you targeted yourself now?

If the BD targeted me and you. The BD would gain the goo, and neither of us would have the goo.

But both players have the goo, therefore both of us somehow targeted SB.

3. Have you thought that Ihim was gooed?

4.

I don't. I can only infer.

You infer from information. What is that information?

5. I already have on here that you waffled on the randomization but at the same time you think you weren't randomized. Now Cobalt. Claim what part of your action believed you weren't randomized given that

you think that randomization still is happeneing

This post shows you think it's happening:

It's easy to prove I have the goo. I give it to anyone who targets me. So have someone target the slot 2 above me, and someone else target me. Whether or not redirection is in effect, one of the two will get my goo, proving I have it.

You are trying so hard to make me look guilty that you are worse then a tonne of waffles. Cobalt scum = caught.

[DTMaster]

@Seraphim

Are you serious?

Tell me good sir, how hp[leaves] or mae's names are memes?

Yes I read your argument that their role names include Memetic, and that's how you derived your argument against CJ. But we have 2 flipped scum, now apply your logic to them. How are they scummy because of their username?

@Seraphim/Plum/CJ
Lastly, did you prove with the CD the how the randomization effect works? Do you confirm that players targeted are shifted down 2 slots?

[DTMaster]

I think it's horrible posting.

[DTMaster]

It's Tar level logic posting.

[DTMaster]

Actually I just think it's bloody insane.

[DTMaster]

@Cobalt
1. We can also confirm the shift via Seraphim/CJ/Plum

That is 7 people confirming it, on a diffrent day. Granted Scott/Me/Mae/Dram confirm it Day 1/Day 2 period only. But the above have been using my CD to confirm the shift.

As it stands 4 roles say it occurred in the Day 1/2 period. Now are you seriously telling me that scum bussed accurately 4 times in a row, following the exact same pattern. That means scum would have bussed SB who would have been gooed himself, losing his

BUSING ABILITY

hint hint.

2. Harro. You believe the shifting if you want people to target you

by targeting two spots above you

. If you don't think the shifting applies to them, which is the point of your busing arguments, it means you would ask them to target

you

.

If this was a result of busing/lack of bussing, that means your target on me was successful and shifting did not occur during the day. This only occurred with select people.

By the same token we can confirm you, you can confirm me. If players target both of us, the goo should be removed by the players with the goo.

Harro. Cobalt. Are you dense? You believe in the global randomiation theory because of the fact you want people to target 2 spots above you. But at the same time you support that someone is bussing. The former makes sense.

The latter makes sense if scum has been accurately predicting actions for 4 people in a row. Especially when Scott's ban powers were delayed heavily.

If the former proves true, that means you didn't target me and your argument is false. If the latter proves true, then neither of us should have the goo right now because we would be the target of the Bussing action.

[DTMaster]

@Seraphim

That means Shotty inherited hp's meme like wise I was the target of a meme. I assume both Shotty and Me are scum by the same process then?

[DTMaster]

Cobalt. Which is why i'm telling you Seraphim/CJ/Plum can confirm this.

I also used my item and I can confirm this as well. o-o.

[DTMaster]

Seraphim: That means the big baddy is 4chan obviously :p. But I see your point flavourwise.

[DTMaster]

I think role information is better then Usernames though.

[DTMaster]

Wait: Does giving items count as a successful target? I'm thinking we should let Tar catch up his actions/vote counts because he seems to be missing a few things o-o. I might have been ungooed since I got the CD back.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt:
Dramatic item giving got redirected. My/Scott's actions got redirected. Wut now?

[DTMaster]

Actually Dram said he got Mae's role from investigating MMM's name.

1) Kinetic (0) -
2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (0) -
5) Bogre (0) -
6) Starbuck (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (0) -
11) animorpherv1 (0) -
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (0) -
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (0) -
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (0) -
22) Mysterious Mystery Man (0) -
23) inHimshallibe (0) -
24) Maemuki (0) -
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (0) -

Chalk up another one from improbable bussing? I don't think so.

[DTMaster]

Err Name/Series. Not role.

[DTMaster]

Cobalt you might as well claim your action because your case isn't getting better when I have all these examples to show the 2 player slot redirection.

[DTMaster]

@Reck
Now that's just very weak. It's like saying Ihim changed my avatar for the lols since he's the avatar changer, but thats just weak too.

@Cobalt
So is mine. Does it confirm our alignment? No.

It does break your case however since if the person de-goos you with the 2 player slot thing, it means that your action didn't target me.

[DTMaster]

Um. Cobalt. It means your action was redirected to ihim if the 2 player slot holds true.

[DTMaster]

It also means you didn't remove my goo. So your case on me lying is moot. Which is the original point of this argument.

[DTMaster]

Actually cobalt. If you think I'm lying shouldn't you ask someone to target me to confirm this? It'll be quicker.

[DTMaster]

Um... no considering he hasn't given people their items yet no. I still can't change my avatar though. I'm still waiting on my CD result.

Cobalt. There are 2 explaination:

Multiple gooes because more then 1 person targeted SB
You are lying. You are expressing preference for you to be ungooed and actually now that I think about it: Scum PR would want this since it disables your abilities.

Its funny to think that you want to be ungooed but you don't want to confirm my gooiness. That would mean that if my action goes through, with my CD you should be ungooed since I targeted Ortlan.

[DTMaster]

For those who are slow:

I'm using my item. I still lost my role cop ability the Dia- blah due to the goo. That is the ability that I can't use.

[DTMaster]

about your target. 2 player slots mean you needed to have targeted Seraphim to target me.

The other explanation is that you targeted me which redirected to Ihim. Therefor your case falls apart about you degooing me. HARRO. EARTH TO COBALT. Think about it.

If the 2 player slot holds true, that means your case doesn't. Role claim now to prove me wrong.

[DTMaster]

Actually Ability claim. I'd rather wait for the role claim to see if I guess your role correctly.

[DTMaster]

Oh sorry SC. I meant SC.

@SC
Ani claimed again. He reposted his real PM

[DTMaster]

SC. You are useless right now. I think that's scummy because that's passive agressive talk.

He is frustrated, but that means nothing.

You might as well list off null tells for the rest of the game. Grab some stones and form some opinions. What is your read on me.

[DTMaster]

@Reck

Sorry >>;; but do you have any comments to my case at all? Cobalt's case? I've been doing scum hunting in the midst of my posts here if you haven't noticed.

[DTMaster]

@SC

I will take the Ring, though I know not the way.

Welcome to Mind Screw Mafia 4, animorpherv1. You are Frodo (from The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King), a hobbit rogue skilled in collecting and disposing of dangerous items. The Valar dispatched you here in order to bring some order to this chaotic realm by removing some dangerous items... or did you really just come here to loot?

You are a Neutral Item Hunter. You have the following special abilities:

At Will Abilities:
Vote - You may vote other players by posting Vote: PLAYERNAME in the thread.
Grab Item - You may grab a loose item by posting Grab: ITEMNAME in the thread. If two or more players use this action for the same item, only the first works.
Change Avatar: You may change your avatar by posting Avatar Change in the thread. Changing your avatar without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].
Change Location - You may change your location (your location can be found under your avatar and is set via Profile) by posting Location Change. Changing your location without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].
Change Signature - You may change your signature by posting Signature Change in the thread. Changing your signature without posting this will result in [REDACTED - RULE 0].

Factional Abilities:
Item Hunter Falseclaim - At any time, you may send me an ability (or set of abilities) and a role name. If you do, I will make a fake role PM for you using the given name and abilities at the earliest possible opportunity. This is a Rapid Action (it resolves immediately upon receipt). You may use this ability at will, and using this ability never counts towards limits on the number of activated abilities you can use in a given time period.

Passive Abilities:
Level Up - So long as you possess at least one item, you are immune to the first kill that targets you each day. So long as you possess two or more items, you are instead immune to kills. So long as you possess four or more items, you are instead untargetable.

Activated Abilities:
Sleight of Hand - Every 400 posts, you may target a player. If that player has one or more items, you will steal one of them at random. This ability cannot be tracked or redirected. This is a Rapid Action (it resolves immediately upon receipt).

Please note that you may use any number of activated abilities (of your role and/or items you possess) each day, provided that you meet any usage requirements defined by those abilities.

Win Condition (Item Hunter) You win and remove yourself from the game when you possess at least five items, or nothing can prevent the same. This win condition does NOT end the game. You are not counted as a faction for the purposes of the standard factional win condition ("You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same"). (Items you control drop to the ground when you win.)

Please confirm via return PM.

Ani claimed neutral. It's good to have a healthy sense of skepticism considering he said he returns the items back. I think Ani's role is correct, and him leaving is correct to that purpose of the above PM cross reference to his behavior, and his fake PM. The slip that made it possible was when Kai pointed out Ani wanted to destroy the items.

The flavour conflicts with the (extra note). But that's flavor. If we are dealing with a neutral guy we can deal with this later. Scum hunting should happen nao, and we should hunt for mafias.

[DTMaster]

You don't need to claim the person's name/series. Since you had the CD you just need to claim who you gave that to since that was also redirected. I got the CD back.

[DTMaster]

Seraphim did you obtain the CD at any time? CD did you obtain the CD at anytime?

[DTMaster]

This works.

2) Kairyuu (0) -
3) Plum (rep. malthusis) (0) -
4) xRECKONERx (0) -
5) Bogre (0) -
7) dramonic (0) -
8) Fraction Jackson (0) -
9) Snow_Bunny (0) -
10) raider8169 (rep. Boxman) (0) -
11) animorpherv1 (1) - Plum
12) ortolan (0) -
13) Flava Flave (0) -
14) Cobalt (0) -
15) hp [leaves] (rep. Gorrad) (1) - DTMaster
16) Phate (0) -
17) Candle Jack (0) -
18) StrangerCoug (0) -
19) Seraphim (0) -
20) SocioPath (0) -
21) DTMaster (0) -
24) Maemuki (14) - SocioPath, Maemuki, hp [leaves], animorpherv1, StrangerCoug, xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Flava Flave, Cobalt, Cobalt, Cobalt, Fraction Jackson
25) Haylen (0) -
26) Shotty to the Body (0) -
27) Azazel (0) -

Taking the vote that lynched Mae. How ever given that Plum said she targeted CJ you must have gotten the CD back. You passing to Azazel supports how Plum got the CD

[DTMaster]

hey guys
Tarhilandur (from Real Life) exists.
Do we have confirmation that the Chairman Mao role exists?

Location Change: the darkest depths of insanity

I think I did that right.

I was informed I needed to do that, although all I know is that it lets me keep posting. If I didn't I'd have been Redacted to hell, as it seems like Reck is being.

Wait this bugs me... Kinetic was informed that he needed to change his location but Kai targeted him successfully on day 1. Wut?

[DTMaster]

FJ when the pm comes in please confirm if Kai forced you to change.

[DTMaster]

Oh sorry I'm dumb. Kai's discrepency makes sense given with what he claimed. That means people that are with Kai should be immune to the random actionining unless the randomizer is with Kai. That means anyone who wasn't in scum chat is the suspect for the randomizer. This narrow things down a bit.

[DTMaster]

OOOH I understand something. Cobalt when did you location change? Because if you changed your location to Scumchat before you actioned me around 434 that means you can't have targeted me.

Also that means my action on you should fail.

The question now is:

How did I get the CD given that Plum was in scum chat, and I wasn't in scum chat

Mod error? - Tar

[DTMaster]

@Kai
If that is true, we have an issue here. Why do I have the CD given that Plum had it in the first place? Can we give items across your bag?

[DTMaster]

Relevation. I don't think Cobalt is scum now.

unvote

vote: flava flare

[DTMaster]

Continuing off my last day case. If you need a scummy argument look at the last vote Flava did. What he did was Vote Ani and FoS you. I drove the Cobalt case. Flava went along for the ride without any reasoning. He was also opposed to the subgame being announced and voted Mae in a rehashed style bandwagon.

If you want scum who's camoflauged behind neutral wagons, Flava fits the bill. Hp demonstrated this in rereads. Scum was on that wagon for sure.

[DTMaster]

Raider is pretty bad in a reread. Noticed the lack of content from his posts. I'm going to take a break and calm down a little so I'm a little more coherent. Clear my head and such.

[DTMaster]

Bogre hasn't posted though. and Tar said he would replace-- wait. :S

[DTMaster]

Tar likes to use invisible roles. Bogre = invisible townie that has been hiding in plain sight?

[DTMaster]

I said this before. And Tar said he would replace him.

[DTMaster]

@FJ
The CD was the item I started with, and it compliments my role. It does start

@Plum
When you were in Scumchat universe with Kai, I don't think you were supposed to be able to give me the CD back.

Bag of Holding - Other players who share a location with you have protection from players who don't share a location with you, and vice versa. (If a player who is in the same location as you would use an ability on a player who is not in the same location as you, that ability fails to resolve, and vice versa. This effect lasts as long as you are alive. Your location is whatever is listed as your location in your user profile and can be found under your avatar.

This bugs me beyond belief. When Tar finally updates the roles/votes and such I can verify this since I targeted Cobalt while he was in Scumchat space (I took into account the shift).

@Zazie
I answered your question. When you reread it's painfully obvious that I did. I think I bolded it too.

@Kai
His ability wouldn't work on you, see the bag? Or was Phayte in scum chat. I'll check.

[DTMaster]

@Kinetic
YOU ARE ALIVE ZOMG /lols

@Kai
Unless Phayte can detect people that are on different phases/location via your Bag (if people read Haruhi this is like the Phase counter mechanic that won the game in Haruhi)...

[DTMaster]

Actually I wonder something given that we have a dead and removed from game mechanic going on.

Unvote
Vote: hp[leaves]

If it's like Legacy....