Teleportation Mafia Universe ONE (MAFIA A WINS!)

[Ellibereth]

Haaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii.
I'll be read up by tomorrow or the day after at most, but a summary would still be very very nice. Until then:

Vote: Csl

[Ellibereth]

Hi ellibereth nice to see you again. Why should we not lynch you on the spot, considering your former uni thought it better to be rid of you than gain a confirmed townie in DGB, aparently? Why did you vote CSL before reading the thread?

Hi Rhino!
My former uni didn't think it better, rather the teleporter did.
I had already been skimming the thread yesterday and Elvis's post today looked good.

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Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 2 ) elvis_knits Ellibereth
elvis_knits ( 1 ) mykonian
evilsnail ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) gayle
Raskol ( 0 )
Rhinox ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 9 ) Rhinox ojanen evilsnail farside22 popsofctown CSL fishythefish Hoopla Raskol
Total Votes ( 13 )

With 13 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

/GHOST SLAY

[Ellibereth]

I should be caught up by today.
Hopefully.

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Time for more "I agree with the posts above me" until I finish.

Unvote, Vote evil

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Still not done.
[quote="evil"Re my scum tells: It's been a long time since I played as scum, so I don't fully remember, but I definitely like busing my scumbuddies. That's fun. Other than that, I tend to be more cautious with my vote. When I'm town, I have very strong gut feelings about people and that's difficult to fake. So, if I'm using more intuition than sense, that's usually a sign that I'm town.[/quote]
^^^ Cautious with his vote...not following gut as much...doesn't that describe his current play?

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Ugh

Still not done.

Re my scum tells: It's been a long time since I played as scum, so I don't fully remember, but I definitely like busing my scumbuddies. That's fun. Other than that, I tend to be more cautious with my vote. When I'm town, I have very strong gut feelings about people and that's difficult to fake. So, if I'm using more intuition than sense, that's usually a sign that I'm town.

^^^ Cautious with his vote...not following gut as much...doesn't that describe his current play?

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He's probably bussing his buddies like he said he would too.

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Are my eyes glazing or did Jack just basically claim scum.

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Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 2 ) Rhinox popsofctown
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 5 ) Raskol fishythefish Ellibereth farside22 mykonian
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 1 ) evilsnail
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 3 ) gayle Hoopla elvis_knits
Raskol ( 0 )
Rhinox ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) ojanen CSL
Total Votes ( 13 )

With 13 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

Are my eyes glazing or did Jack just basically claim scum.

@the other universe:

I don't know about evilsnails alignment, but I can say that playing styles do change after a long absence. If I'd been asked that question at the beginning of this game I'd probably have said I lurked as mafia, but I've hardly lurked at all this game.

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Has noone there noticed...

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I said there wasn't obvscum because most of the many various cases that have been presented are crap.

Scum with Evil ^^^

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Why dida Plum say 2/3 in that letter she sent over to us?
Why aren't there more votes on evil?

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Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 2 ) Rhinox popsofctown
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 5 ) Raskol fishythefish Ellibereth farside22 mykonian
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 1 ) evilsnail
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 3 ) gayle Hoopla elvis_knits
Raskol ( 0 )
Rhinox ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) ojanen CSL
Total Votes ( 13 )

With 13 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

/Voodooed

[Ellibereth]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 75#2105775

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Why type of physics? I can't do anything past stuff on the AP C.
I also need to go take a look at pops again. Evil is still scum.

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TOWN
Elvis
Hoop
Gayle
Myko
Oj

PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE TOWN BUT I FEEL QUEESY ABOUT
farside
Raskol

PEOPLE THAT CONFUSE ME
CSL

EVERYONE ELSE
Fishy
Pops
Evil

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Everyone else.

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Pops is queesy town now.
I agree with everything Hoopla said above.
Csl or evil are both good lynches.

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[Lynch Quickly]

If the thread is growing quickly it is because there is a lot of discussion. You are suggesting quick lynching in order to purposely stifle discussion. That is an awfully scummy suggestion.

Also, pops and Elli agree with your strategy, and they are both scum.

Too much discussion sucks.
We already have too much discussion.

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If hanging evil isn't getting enough support let's quicklynch CSL.

Unvote, Vote CSL

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Well, I can see why you were teleported over here. You always this wagon-happy?

I've only endorsed two.
Who are you voting again? I forgot. If it's not CSL change please, bussing is good for you.

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There's only so much 'discussion' the human mind has the ability to critically analyse. Once there is too much, people resort to out-of-context isoreads and summaries of previous events to base their reads on. I'm not saying lynch quickly. I'm saying don't waste 20+ pages per lynch, because every day we get someone new who has to read it all, and won't be able to use the information effectively anyway.

The post count is growing so fast because

other people

are scum hunting. You are telling everyone else to slow down in order to benefit you. When you replaced into the game it became

your

responsibility to keep up, not everyone else's responsibility to slow down.

If hanging evil isn't getting enough support let's quicklynch CSL.
Unvote, Vote CSL

Further evidence that Fishy's plan to keep Elli around is a bad idea.

Point of Diminishing returns.

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CSL is scum because:

1) He vote Myko based on the scum slip (bad vote at best, IMO), then he unvoted like a scared puppy. Later, myko isn't even on his scum list.

2) He said he wasn't following Plum, which he clearly was, especially given the page number he said he was on when he voted.

3) Not giving any reasoning for his votes.

4) Asking to be allowed to live to night, saying he's okay with being NKed. He's hinting at being the teleporter, right?

Lynch plz.

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Well, I can see why you were teleported over here. You always this wagon-happy?

Yes, she usually is.

Dammit, I thought I was talking about Hoopla. I don't know about Elli.

Don't worry I am too.

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People should be voting CSl, I want him dead by this page.

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Also note that Csl is posting in his other games and is avoiding this one.

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How many votes on pops right now?

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You should prod their individual accounts IMO. Whatevs.

Unvote, Vote Pops

Csl is a waaaaaaaay better teleport than Myko.

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I'd be fine lynching any of csl, evil, pops, rhino, and whoever else isn't an obvious town read.
We just need a freaking lynch already.

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Funny thing is, though, it's Day 2. I stopped worrying about getting lynched/NK'd after the start of it.

Another thing, good luck lynching me on this page.

Annoyingly, this feels town for some reason. I'm sure his scumpartners would not tolerate such an apathetic team mate.

You know he has a record of self-voting before L-1 right?

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 83#1876483
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 88#1894988
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 74#1921474
And another ongoing. All scum games.
(He has also one it twice as town)

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Hoopla is town due to Flareonage being incredibly town.
Agree with farside about the scumteam, except replace Fishy with Csl.

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Further, as the second scumteam is not likely to kill here, more players mean more mislynches= good.

I don't get it.

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/ghost slay

Also, from the looks of it, the majority is saying pops is scum. Rhinox said pops is town.

Odd...

^^^I really want to lynch this guy...

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This is still going on?
Can someone please hammer, kthx.

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WHY IS THIS DAY STILL GOING ON ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Unvote, Vote CSL

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Unvote, Vote Pops

See you elvis
CSL will be duly destroyed.

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And I missed a page...he will not be duly destroyed.

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I don't think Hoopla is scum.

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I don't think Hoopla is scum.

Since I know sometimes your reads are completely off on players that are scum can I ask why?

Good point, I'm probably wrong.
My read on Flare stuck. Whatevs.

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Whatever

Vote: Hoopla

That gut read is just probably another massive fail on my part...

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Hooplascum is giving up and paying less and less attention to the game.

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@ SpyreX: I rarely ever get to live to Day 2 as town. Trust me, if I'm scum, I would be a lot more interested in this game.

Wait what. You rarely live long as townie. If you're townie now, you've lived quite long. Why wouln't you be interested? :/
Would not be suprised at all if pops was bussing CSL. He's so extremely bussable.

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Ignoringus U-2'ers.

TOWN
Oj
Myko
Gayle
Spyrex

PEOPLE LEFT
CSL
evilsnail
Fishythefish

I dunno where people are getting CSLtown. My current way of attempting to reading him is active, aggresive, crazythingsoutofnowhere is CSLtown. While lurking, quiet, continuous catchup is CSLscum. And he would be one of the most bussable scum players ever.

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Vote: CSL

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Ellibereth, given that you have voted me in every game you and I have been on, I'm just going to say that your vote is based on policy.

Well, going to ISO evilsnail.

This argument is so full of fail. And it's also untrue if we count an ongoing game, whatevs.

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Mykonian feels completely town to me. Concentrating severely on the other universe was the bulk of my case against Doc back when I was in U-2. He flipped town. Don't think it's a tell anymore. Is there something other than that I'm missing?

And people who say CSL being bussed wasn't realistic, hand me one competent scum team which

won't

bus CSL. And as I already said, it's my feeling he's quieter, lurks more, and says less when he is scum. ( no concerete meta links, just a feeling from playing/being in same games as him).

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Nope. No ticking here, but he did seem eager to lynch me Day 2 and Day 3.

I'm eager to lynch you today too.

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Your point, Elli? Does everything I post tick your scumdar?

Here's an idea, let's get REAL scum, and not lynch who most players read as likely town, hmm?

No problem. I give up on who I think is scum just because people disagree. Yeah, I did that with Hoopla. Look how that turned out.

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Hoopla flipped town.

I know, I said I thought she was town.
Then I said screw it and go with the majority.

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mod, can we have some prods?

QFT
Oj has good points about the times.

Unvote

At school right now, rethink later.

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Vote: Evilsnail

PoE

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Spyrex, assume Myko's town, who's scum? (If you said it and I missed it, sorry )

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And I r back!
Apologies for the anti-posting, had flooding, no power/water and falling trees gallore and I somehow missed my LA mass post in this topic. Anyway, all's good now.
And i come back to a massive wtf??? looking at the game.

So, based on qucik double uni skim
DRK is U2 scum.
Starbuck is U2 scum.
FFFF is U2 scum.
Plum is U1 scum.
Myko is town.
Feeling better on snail.
Still realy want to lynch the hell out of CSL, except for Oj's stupid timestamp thing that trashed that idea...but he's the only guy right now I don't have a town-read on based off said player's own play.

Meh, more later

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Infodump @Spyrex (Elli what do you think?) [timezones mine]:
Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:25 am: Hoopla L-1 vote

should i claim yet?

evil, fishy, elvis say he should (with fishy's comment about possibility to not cc fakeclaimer)

Why is pops dragging this out?
If we get to deadline, somebody better be willing to hammer him, with or without a claim.

I'm the teleporter.
I'll teleport CSL tonight, if you hold off this inane lynch.
If you lynch me through the claim, I suspect elvis the most of being the scum on my wagon. She's been pushing me the most "just because".
Rhinox isn't scum. Myk and fishy probably aren't. CSL probably is, because the actives dont seem that scummy.

DEADLINE:
Feb 23, 1.00 am.

Claim circa 19 hours before deadline with some dragging; from L-1 about 3 days, from "should I claim?" about 1,5.
He says he'll teleport CSL but he also says CSL scum and has his vote there.

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So Uni 1 scum and Uni 2 scum here are the same then now?

Vote: Drk

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By the same, I meant we needn't to keep Uni2 obvscum alive.

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Uni 1 SCUM
Pops
{CSL, EVIL}
{EVIL, FISHY}

Uni 2 SCUM
FFFF
DRK
Starbuck/Hayle, probably Star

Opened like an Egg.

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OK!

UNI 1 SCUM
{Csl, Evil}
OR
{Fishy, Evil}

UNI 2 SCUM
DRK
Hayle

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Killing elli (we thought you were town), wasn't too clever, and almost cost us the game.

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Don't ask me, read our thread. Basically we wifomed ourselves out of the two obvious kills (starbuck, the mason, and SL, the teleportee), and then we suddenly agreed on you!

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Wow. evilsnail, PLEASE start acting more townie at all times.