SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[dramonic]

Hello everyone. I'll read up as soon as possible.

Also, service for yall, do you want me to translate what FFFF is saying when he posts? I'm french before anything else, so really, it wouldn't be a problem (although google translate makes his sentences aggramatical:P)

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Mod: Is it actually legal for me to translate what FFFF says, or am I passible of modkill for messing with a post restriction?

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Ani likes to eat underwear.
Thanks for sharing dude...

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the person who translated this first scum?

quite aggramatical really @_@

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Tôt le matin, mon modérateur mauvais. S'il vous plaît puis-je réparer mon poste?

it's early morning, my evil moderator ( ?). Can you repair my post?



Reading, btw.

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oh, my bad mod.

my bad -> mon erreur

google -> eeeeeeeeeeeevil

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Finally done with the reread.
Damn that was tedious.

Hello to all of you I've played with before (meaning most of you really)

Now, on topic.

I'm not sure I see the parama/nul/anon connection. Personal experience leads me to believe Anon is town, Nul just feels decorative.

Parama though I can potentially understand (especially with the "kill me" post), although I'd MUCH rather get a Syke lynch. The whole case response with Starbuck is freaking hilarious, considering how scummy Syke is in it.

Fish trying to deflate said case is very scummy too.

Maybe AtE aint the best tell. Maybe overreaction aint the best tell. Maybe fence-sitting aint the best tell. Maybe "readless" aint the best tell... But DAMMIT, he's got all of them simultaneously.

Also, if you tell me it's your meta to play like that Syke... well it's anti-town and scummy, fix it.

DP's post 15 REALLY rubs me the wrong way. Like REALLY REALLY.

Vote: Sykedoc

Heavy FoS: Fishy, DP

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Unvote: Parama
Vote: Sykedoc

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First, I see those things as scummy personally.

Second, anti-town is by definition a nuisance. What help are you doing the town in trying to deflate his wagon? Unless you can prove to me that he is better off alive, I see no reason for him to not be lynched.

Worst case scenario we end up bringing him to endgame because we thing he's "just naturally like that" and then we screw up because he was actually more than simply a town that plays against his team's interest.

I'm sorry if my words sound a bit harsh, but trying to keep a player you yourself think is anti-town is simply not a wise maneuver.

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that was not ad hom <<

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I'm not going to go read all the newbie games and the integral woodstock mafia.
Page reference ?

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that's easy. Just remove the DocPotter wagon, Parama and Syke are way scummier than he is.

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it should count, unless you have to specify who you are unvoting 0_o

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Do I actually have to?

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search is still disabled.

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I'm quite aware of that rayfrost, the question wasn't aimed at me anyways.

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Is this the longest day 1 ever

no it's not.
Also, it'd be faster if you actually posted something of value.

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I really dislike Parama's defense, it's as scummy as Syke's. Since my initial wagon is basically OoO...

Unvote
Vote: Parama

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Why are you voting DP over Parama then?

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Désolé pour mon absence. Comme je l'ai appris récemment que je suis une personne très spéciale dans ma vie. Anyways, Parama Souhaitez-vous aimé par lynchés?

sorry for my absense. As I've learned recently I'm a very special person in my life. Anyways, Parama who would you wish to be lynched by?

or something like that.

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What's the current count on parama?

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L-4, shouldn't have asked.
Syke, why are you not voting him?

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For a cop you sure try to get lynched.

You know, I think you might have forgotten the "scum role-" part of your claim

[dramonic]

personally I think the greek cop claim is doubtful at best (and still flavourless). Also, considering this is a bastard mod, it's pretty easy to assume the scum can possibly make him completely void easily even if he IS of any use.

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CSL... pay attention to the game. Please

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unvote
vote: Sykedoc

@mod: is that a typo or RBT really has only 2 votes?

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extra reason not to maintain it.

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Wait....

This case is built on META?

Unvote

Filthy, filthy people.

not from my point of view it isn't.

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Seriously now. I'm only on page 11 and I feel dirty for placing that vote.

Unbelivable.

However, I have a winner. Lets do it and do it fast.

Vote: CSL

He's in this game?

yes he is.

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what's wrong Amished?

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It would help if you actually read the thread to find out what players are in this game.

That said. Currently on page 20.

Unvote; Vote: RBT

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*headdesk*

Too many scummy people X_X

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If both CSL and RBT are mafia I doubt they're together.
I'll post soon again with a vote, but in case RBT is actually at l-2 or l-1 I'll check first.

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Unvote
Vote: RBT

l-3 now.

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THE UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE

@Anon, FishytheFish, Kairyuu, LlamaFluff, My Milked Eek, sykedoc:

It is time for us to fix this. It is time for the world to be ran under our fist.
We move as one. We think as one. We are one. We are brothers in arms against threats that no single person can stand against. Together we shall purge this land with noose and fire. Separate we are weak, together we are invincible. Until only we remain, we shall be vigilant for our brothers.

Why can't I be part of the alliance?
my heart is broken...

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I might nominate that for a title. Off By A Thousand or something.

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l-2...
dragging on and on and on...

also, day-rb is not plausible.

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This is l-1 people.

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multiple DK in one day? 0_o

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Unvote
vote: CSL

no shit...

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DAYKILL: RBT

If RBT is a VT, I just lost this daykill stuff.

explanation required

Sounds pretty clear to me <<

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his daykill ability.

sounds logical ya? It's like perfectionist mafia.

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Vote: CSL

Personally I'm not sure I trust ani as town with his power, especially if he can vig as often as he likes during the day.

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Not necessarely. If he had went on a shooting spree rBT could have blocked him and he'd have outed himself as scum. additionally if he shoots one per one he gets spotted real quick, if he shoots a list we know anyone who doesnt die on his list (if he hits vanilla before the end) is confirmed town.

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quick up to date

-Ani is a multishot dayvig. As long as he doesnt shoot townies he keeps his power.
-RBT has flipped town roleblocker
-Current leading wagon is on CSL, who seemed to still be 27 pages late yesterday
-deadline is in roughly 6 days.

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Anyone who proposes an alliance, anyone, should be lynched to prove they are town. If they propose a good alliance then it will no doubt go on to be a powerful town force increasing the chance of a town win, which is still a win for the proposer.

That scumtell supposes the proposer isn't Pooky or SpyreX

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I think we should have Richard hammer CSL.

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considering the flavour says nekomata belched fire on Fishy too, I think the stabbing means he died twice.

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he's saying he wants your reasoning and asking why you arent voting him.

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I like Jahudo's drunk style :3

DN's vote is quite horrible.
From my personal experience with CSL, RBT deserves some scrutiny as well. CSL is bus-happy.

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...

*facepalm*

I'm gonna go sulk a bit...

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Personally the kills that occured make me more willing to believe Parama's claim.

We have an american mafia, and flavour heavily pushing for a Nekomata serial killer.
The other group could very well be greek.

The DeathNote case I agree on. Also he can be surprisingly efficient when left alive (as SK anyways, as by 101)

Vote: Deathnote

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Vote: Deathnote

Vote: Deathnote

Doublevoter claim?

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I reserve an order for Ani to shoot Parama if DN flips town.

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I'd give Panama less credibility on his claim if DN had actually called him out on it at the beginning of the day.

But he didn't. Which is really anti-town. It's inherently better to off DN first, since even if he IS telling the truth, he's not a cop per-se, while a misshot on Parama would be fairly more crippling.

@DocPotter: I'd think the fact the game is called

curse

of the Nekomata would kind of tip you against it being a vig...

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dude... you're dead.

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Someone explain to me how shooting a cop is better than shooting a back-up cop when they have fairly contradicting claims?

Oh wait, it's not better =_=

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avancent oui et me lynchent voyant deux de deux joueurs limités par poteau ont été la ville aligné jusqu'ici que je suis sûr que dernier sera écume… (sarcasme) wouah ne laissez pas le fil de sortie de Spyrex cette ville égarée.

something about 2 of 2 shot being town, so obviously third will be scum (sarcasm). Also not to let SpyreX lead the town.

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Isn't it strange he mentions two of two post-restricted players who are town when only one is town? Can I say scum-slip on FFFF's part?

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0_0

What is it with hating me lately

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I like the drunkards reasoning. Add to that the weired things he's been spouting lately and

Unvote
Vote: FFFF

That'll solve a few language barriers.

Also, the playerlist keeps getting better

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someone take that gun out of his hands...

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pretty sure SC confirmed UK by accident there.

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So now we lynch MME?
Or we shoot again?

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he's saying we should consider killing someone in the Unbreakable.

ecume = scum (as in soap scum)
coup = shot

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okay, now I dont have a clue either XP

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God I'm exhausted and I will be posting more in here tomorrow.

DN flipping backup is not a bad in the truest of senses. Ivy gets those warm vibes.

I'm really not sure what to do with the UK situation.

UNBREAKABLES or not, this weird act with Kai showing up and ani shooting is really starting to freak me out. A lot.

And, I didn't catch up on the hulabaloo, but FFFF claimed BP?

no, FFFF was just explaining Ani cant shoot him cuz he'll lose his dayvig due to the post restriction restriction.

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FFFF wants a case against him.

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now that's not very nice FFFF...

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post... restriction... hell...

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yes please

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On a more serious note:

I find it unlikely that Ani is town. I mean, think for a second, what's the benifit of a vig that can only keep shooting as long as he's blowing up PRs?

He's borderline destructive, if it were "as long as he shoots townies or scum" I'd get the idea, but the role just seems anti-town to me :S

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I skimmed over both and

unvote
vote: FFFF

definitely scummier if you ask me.

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you want ani to shoot again?

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yeah, that's definitely saying he's a miller. Not death miller, plain miller.

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wait....

you're like a double-suppersaint-post-restriction-transferring miller?

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yeah, err...

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ani shoot him XD

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this is a joke, do NOT shoot.

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not translating for obv reasons.

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let's have the both of both worlds.
let's have Pom (who's getting replaced, btw) hammer you. Two birds one stone.

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!!!WARNING!!!
If FFFF is telling the truth, the hammer AND the L-1 vote will die.

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L-3 people.
I'm surprised more people aren't voting for FFFF after that claim <<

@Maemuki: Tewi

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non-voters: Get an opinion already, it's not like we're low on options.

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If you use that babelfish addon, if you click on the "google" bit, the yahoo translator seems to be a little more legible for FFFF; not that it will really matter anymore.

My translation are better than both those measly machines

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So...what are we trying to do now?

we're trying to lynch FFFF, he's prob scum. You should vote him, MME is not gonna be lynched today anyways.

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L-1, Starbuck if you will

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I was a cursed mafia goon good game guys.

J'étais une mafia bien good job guys.

Is there some passive stuff you should inform us on?

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Does this mean UK is a jester now FFS?

Most Prob

I am going to pre-say I want a shot on either Dram or Pom real quick in the day though.

I'm going to go ahead and say the intelligent shot so far would be UK for obvious reason. Also why do you want to shoot me?

On a sidenote, your unbreakable alliances has scum in it, SpyreX. That kinda hurt your town-cred for me.

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I think Ani should kill UK.

@SpyreX: I'm not saying you bussed, I'm saying considering you want to shoot me and two of your alliance were anti-town, I'd start reviewing my read skills

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No.

Thats not what you said even a little.

You said I lost "town cred" because I had picked out scum.

Which means, by nature, I'm MORE SCUMMY because I wasn't prescient.

That does not equal "check my reads" which is something one would worry about from a town player.

I'll assume that was sarcasm. Since you don't understand what I mean let's use comparison

You're a bit like DGB (in games I've played with her): You give me a town feel, but your reads are seriously messed-up

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And while the jester is a concern its not a concern for today. Killing scum is what matters today.

A known jester doesn't matter until we start getting towards lylo. Then even the scum have to worry depending on how wincons are worded.

So, I swear, do not shoot the jester.

That's actually a good point. Nevermind ^_^;
Jester = survivor that lose if he reaches endgame (must die by lynch), correct?

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So, which is it:

1.) I am more likely to be scum because I had picked scum in my alliance.
2.) My reads as a whole are worse because of the initial grouping I picked out there were scum.

As of now 2, although I'd rather not have this conversation end with me getting shot.

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They were both pretty policy-lynchable, though I admit to credit for the FFFF one. CSL is just death bait anyways, dont pat yourself on the back too much

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it's a fakeclaim to avoid his lynch obviously.

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@Mod: Unless there's a special mechanic at hand, with 15 alive majority is 8.

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--Dramonic-- i always have such a bad read on.
~Ivy.

You're an alt of...?

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Surprisingly, I'm not too hot about the prospect of getting a bullet put through my skull.
Not sure what getting cold feet means... Care to lay it out for me, this aint my first language ^_^;

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YAY! I WON BY CLAIMING THIRD PARTY! TWICE!

I really really wanted you to get the role.
This a bastard game, there had to be a catch somewhere

SpyreX, I hate you