Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[Flareonage]

Wait, I'm about to be lynched?

I'm gonna have to catch up later cuz Heroes is about to start

[Flareonage]

How many votes do I have on me? How many are required for a lynch?

And I'm assuming a detailed claim means the exact character I was assigned and the role attached to it. This is my first themed game

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Like I said I was watching the new episode of Heroes.

I really don't see why I should roleclaim when I'm at L-5

Unvote

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

OMGUS! lol

[Flareonage]

What did DeathNote do that was so scummy? Could you give me some pages to look at or something?

I suggest taking a closer look at the people that accused him.

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I don't understand why you guys are attacking me. You're

WASTING YOUR TIME

This is gonna get you nowhere

[Flareonage]

I guess so

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you're gonna lynch me anyway. Maybe you'll at least learn something by watching who pushes for a claim. I can't say the rest without ruining it

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I haven't gathered information. I haven't even been here for that long. Claiming will NOT prevent my lynch. It didn't last time Rayfrost

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The town fails anyway. Apparently all the information they got up to this point has still misled them

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I have even less information then you guys. I'm clueless, any info from me should not be taken seriously. I missed over 100 pages

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When I said "I can't say the rest" I meant that the people pushing for a claim are most likely town because Scum have no reason to push for a claim. If EVERYONE is really pushing for this claim then that isn't true

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I'm not saying you guys are full of crap. DN must've been a REALLY bad player to convince you guys that he is scum. I really saw no reason to believe that when I opened my PM

[Flareonage]

I'm Jiminy Cricket. A Fucking Vanilla Townie.

i have

NO

information. This was a complete waste of your time

[Flareonage]

What exactly is flavor? The rest of the PM?

My journal is erased and I'm working with the town to get rid of all threats and hopefully get my notes back

[Flareonage]

Let me guess.... you learned absolutely nothing from that

[Flareonage]

What is AtE?

A PR fake claim would've been extremely easy but unnecessary.

DN already claimed????? WTF?

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I don't think scum would push for a claim. They know I'm not scum and that's good enough. It may be different here, this is my first large theme but I'm sure that applies in other games

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UNVOTE

VOTE: Uncertainkitty

Someone has to be scum and its not me

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I had no reason to vote you. It was just a random vote

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I wasn't setting anything up. I just saw no point in claiming since I'm obviously not scum

unvote

VOTE: Iecerint

Do you really think its a coincedence that we claimed the SAME EXACT ROLE? I said I didn't read the thread. I say that in all games I replace in that have alot of pages and this one had WAY too many.

[Flareonage]

I didn't do any of that so by your logic I'm a total idiot. I don't even know what ISO is

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oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would've helped ALOT a week ago cuz I've replaced into lots of games.

ScumFlare would be smarter then townFlare because TownFlare has nothing to worry about while ScumFlare does.

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I read his posts and now I see where you guys are coming from. Sorry I'm so similar to that. I too dig Kingdom Hearts

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How do I tell what page its on? I can see it when I do the ISO thing but only posts by her

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unvote

vote: Uncertainkitten

Changing my vote back to what it was since I saw that iecerint already claimed

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Fabricating a good fakeclaim does not take a lifetime. Watch me do it in minutes

Goofy

Town Doctor

. Its up to you to use your shield and defend a player during the night phase.

You win when all threats to the town are elimanated

Sora

Town Lover

. You can communicate with Kairi who is ______ at any time either through PM or QT

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated

Jasmine

Town Princess

. You are a normal townie but when you die the next day phase will be skipped because everyone is mourning your loss

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated

[Flareonage]

They're not THAT great but you get the point

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I don't know the WHOLE story but it seems odd to me that Jack Sparrow would get TWO shots when we all know he only has one bullet. On the other hand Xaldin has TWO guns and it would make perfect sense for him to have 2 kills.

Does anyone else believe that Iecerint could've fakeclaimed?

[Flareonage]

Xigbar has 2 guns not Xaldin.

I now believe that we were lied to

Unvote

VOTE: Iecerint

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Wow, I'm an idiot.

I dont know how I didnt notice that Xigbar is already dead.

Unvote

VOTE:Uncertainkitty

Let's forget that ever happened

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I am sorry that it hurts peoples' feelings that I am 2-shot JS. I seriously am. But that's who I am.

It just doesn't make sense considering what we know about Jack Sparrow

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Xigbar would've been perfect but he's dead. You've earned my trust until I can find another explanation for 2 shot day killer

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I think the only way I could understand someone thinking I was non-town is if they thought I was an SK DKer who was pretending to have only had 2 shots.

Damn you and your mind games

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Iec (me) -- Jack Sparrow, 2-shot vig + flavor (not a fullclaim)

You could be right since apparently he hasn't told us everything

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I'm gonna leave iecerint alone now. Clayton makes sense but the heartless council makes more sense.

kingdomhearts.wikia.com

For those of you not too familiar with the games

[Flareonage]

I claimed awhile ago. Jiminy Cricket, my journal was erased upon entering castle oblivion

Now that I think about it, Captain Hook's presence is odd considering my flavor text

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There were no heartless in Castle Oblivion. It was all organization members

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That's where Jiminy's Journal gets erased because of Namine and her memory wiping abilities

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That is a really good case. I AM town so by his logic he should be held accountable

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DiZ is the real Ansem. He helped Riku while he was in Castle Oblivion and he was the one that had Roxas trapped in the virtual Twilight Town. I have no problem believing that that is a role in this game but RayFrost is right. Why did you bring that up? Now Scum have a possible fakeclaim they can make

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Hm...... I would've believed raider's claim up until the whole scar part. That is pretty suspicious. Why would the mod include Scar in the game? After seeing that Beast and Aladdin were included (and possibly Jack Sparrow) then it is understandable that Simba would be in it too. All 4 of them are party members in KH2

But why would scar be in this? Maybe this is KH2 Mafia and the whole council theory is wrong. Scar was a heartless in that game. Maybe Pete and Maleficient are out there somewhere too

Dam I just confused myself

[Flareonage]

After seeing that Tron was a role I believe we are in fact playing KH2 mafia

Xemnas, Xigbar and Xaldin were all KH2 organization members not Castle Oblivion ones. This makes the Jack Sparrow claim believable and Raider's accusation of Scar being out there somewhere believable too

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Dammit you're right. Once again I try to be useful and I completely fail.

Beast and Aladdin were party members in both games, I think.

It all fit so perfectly and I had no idea that the mod already confirmed that it was the events covered KH through KH2 since I wasn't here

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Should I look into the flavor more or is it better for the town is I just drop it? Because I'm having some pretty interesting theories. Here's one

"A scattered dream that's like a far-off memory. A far-off memory that's
like a scattered dream. I want to line the pieces up..."


I have lost my memories. I am stuck between the light and the darkness. Can any of you help me? Plum, what say you? Gorrad? Surely, you can help me?

Plum was Sora the main good character of the KH games while Gorrad was Xemnas the main villian of the KH games

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Wait, someone was speaking through the mod? I am really confused now. Forget my last post. I'm not gonna go digging anymore

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Unless I'm mistaken, that's just Sajin. I think he believed he had to make flavorful posts early on or they'd be censored, but it turned out that he overestimated how flavorful they had to be at first.

There was a mechanic D1 where players had to type "I'll help you!" to get Sajin out of his ModVoice post restriction. My guess is that those are just random players he chose. I am taking a wait-and-see attitude.

That clears things up a bit. The next post goes on claiming that plum is a poor choice for a lynch. The light is strong within him

Plum did turn out to be Sora and the one character that the light is strongest in.

Did Sajin know more then you guys thought he did? Or is it just a coincidence?

[Flareonage]

Plum would be a poor choice to plunge into darkness. She is actively fighting for the light.

This is in the post right after the last one I quoted

[Flareonage]

Gorrad, Gorrad, Gorrad.....



You better help me.


[/i]

Gorrad- Will you help me?

@Zito: I have information. Yes

I have opinions on people. Yes

Am I trying to pass off my opinions for fact? No.

The last one is evidence that the first 2 were a cry to help to the leader of the nobodies. Maybe Sajin is a nobody and that's why he kept asking their leader for help.

If I were Gorrad I would find it odd that I was being singled out like that and I would believe that he wanted me to help him so he could help me

[Flareonage]

I love Sajin. Literally the scummiest town player ever.

He's not very scummy this game, though. He is probably scum, then. Except that he's DiZ.

Now this comment makes sense.

When Sajin was speaking through the mod he repeatedly said that fishing for his character would only hurt the town. He could've been telling the truth or he didn't want anyone to know he's scum

I've thought of 2 character possibilities but they would both be town aligned. I'm gonna stop fishing now until I see others thoughts

[Flareonage]

Or Maleficent/Xehanort's Heartless (whichever) is a player Sajin isn't fond of.

Could you point out the post you're referring to so I know what you're talking about?

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When was it discovered that Sajin was the modvoice? What phase?

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Ok, I'll shut up now.

I thought maybe I was helping by providing a fresh opinion on the matter

[Flareonage]

2 questions. 1 for Sajin, the other for anyone who answers

1. Sajin, so you're saying it's just a coincidence that you called out the main hero and the main villian in your first mod post? Then you shifted your attention to the nobody leader, then you began questioning the nobody leader and Zito, another confirmed Nobody

2. Is speculating about scum roles bad? I understand why speculating about town roles hurts the town. Does that logic apply to speculating about scum roles?

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Since my point is a lot less valid due to reading badly

unvote

@Flare:Does your pm say that your journal got erased at Castle Oblivion, or did you just add that in when you posted? If the second option, why did you feel the need to add the flavor?

Yes it does. I just didn't include that bit when I first paraphrased the role.

It doesn't say "Im working with the town in hopes of getting my notes back"

It says those things in 2 seperate sentences and not in the same sentence. That is just how I reworded it when I relayed the information to you guys

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@Iecerint: Is there a question in your role PM? Right before the part where your ability is listed

[Flareonage]

DN was a lurking a townie

[Flareonage]

I'm really liking the case against Kise mostly because he said if DN was innocent we could go ahead and lynch. That was a ballsy move and it's time to own up

Unvote

VOTE: Kise

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VOTE: Ace

Out of all the claims his makes the least amount of sense. I don't wanna say too much until after we get the other claims.

Also, UncertainKitten you should claim if you're here. I don't think the order of claiming matters unless you're worried about accidently claiming someone else's role

[Flareonage]

Do you wanna provide some flavor?

Two more claims to go

[Flareonage]

Everyone else was doing it.

I have no problem with your claim

[Flareonage]

It was just a simple question.

I'll post after we get the rest of the name claims

[Flareonage]

i didnt even know it existed until you guys told me

[Flareonage]

i didnt even know it existed until you guys told me.

Actually, Sajin is lying. I'm gonna try and prove it right now, the site is kind of slow so hold on

[Flareonage]

I think it would be better if I waited until after the last 2 people claim

[Flareonage]

that came off too strong and it sounded like I have a PR

I think Sajin is lying and after we get the 2 claims I'll tell you exactly why I think that.

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I forgot to take into account that Sajin was the mod voice. I completely forgot, I no longer believe he is lying but I think I can show that he is not on the town's side. Post will come up in a but if the site lets me look

[Flareonage]

Looking back -- I was toying with the idea that Sajin is an initially unaligned summon

(maybe Neutral Survivor) who knows the scumlords' identities.

The first player to summon him/help him recruits him for the game.

That's what the COURAGE bit looks like to me, but I don't really remember KH that well.

Gorrad is the first to type COURAGE, and he's the first to type "I'll help you."

Plum is the first to type "I'll help you," in bold, though. So this could kinda go either way depending upon how mechanics work out.

However, Sajin joining the Nobodies D2 would fit with Gorrad recruiting him.

It would also explain why Plum died N2. She had been under a lot of scrutiny as potential scum before that.

I bolded everything that I now believe is the truth.

[Flareonage]

This is where I shine!!!

I know ALOT about the kingdom hearts games. Have any questions? Ask me and I can answer them.

Aerith is a major final fantasy character in the kingdom hearts world. She was in both main kingdom hearts games

[Flareonage]

So we're right about the unaligned but wrong about the post that freed you?

I can deal with that for now. I await your fullclaim and starbuck's nameclaim

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I'm leaning towards an ace-shotty team. The reason is based on their name claims and I'm waiting for starbuck before I post why

[Flareonage]

If anything going into a black void is what the organization/riku/mickey/malificent/pete do when they travel from world to world. It doesn't result in the death because it's the realm of darkness, people can survive in there. RIku and Mickey were trapped there for a bit

[Flareonage]

Not that I know of.

Summons are people whose worlds were destroyed by the heartless but their hearts were strong enough to survive.

That's why in KH2 Mushu and Simba recognize Sora

[Flareonage]

@all- Lets assume 2 heartless and 1 nobody remain. Can everyone plug in who they think fits each of these slots? Alternatively, if you think some other variation of scum remain, please list that theory and who you think best fits your theory.

I'd rather not do that until after we get the last claim

[Flareonage]

not counting the dead nobodies we have

shield
axe sword
lexicon
claymore
chakrams
sitar
cards
scythe
knives


I really don't think we should worry about guessing the scums roles. We should focus on who is fakeclaiming

[Flareonage]

Yeah, it's a book.

Every organization member has an attribute that they control. His is illusions

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He posted last night.

Unvote

VOTE: Starbuck

[Flareonage]

Starbuck just posted somewhere else.

Now to wait

[Flareonage]

I'm gonna analyze these name claims and I'll get back to you guys

[Flareonage]

KH2 Party Members:

27. Sir Chris, Neutral Survivor- Aladdin
12. raider8169 Grandi Mufasa- Simba
15. DragonsofSummer- Beast
22. Maemuki Sir Pent foilist13- Tron
10. UncertainKitten - Jack Skellington
21. Iecerint - Captain Jack Sparrow
25. Snow White - Auron

Kingdom Hearts created characters:

(not taken from a disney movie or final fantasy)

Note that these are four of the MAIN KH characters

13. Plum Whoot1234 - Sora
19. zwetschenwasser- Kairi
16. DrippingGoofball - Riku
6. Kdub - Roxas,

Imporant disney characters:

10. RayFrost - King Mickey
2. Kise - Goofy, Town Bodyguard
23. Vaya -Chip
7. DTMaster - Dale
8. Flareonage - Jiminy Cricket

Final Fantasy Characters:

24. xRECKONERx - Leon
5. Hayker -Aeris (mod mistake?)
9. Starbuck - Cloud



4. Shotty to the Body - DiZ
26. ace5993 - Namine

The reason I suspect an Ace/shotty team is that their roles go together flavor wise BUT take out one and it makes no sense why the other was included. If one flips scum then the other has to flip scum too.

We shouldn't rely on this too much because Donald Duck is missing from these claims so a role like Riku could be missing from this game

I'm a little iffy on the cloud claim. Aerith and Leon go together KH wise while Cloud and Aeris go together FF7 wise.

[Flareonage]

pretty much....

All we have left is Sajin's full claim.

I really thought Starbuck was going to claim Donald. That would've helped us

[Flareonage]

they all fit with the other roles. The lack of donald tells us that any important character could be missing. We can't assume that a claim like Riku is true just because riku is extremely important in the KH universe

[Flareonage]

You bring up a good point. You're correct about the Ansem in his avatar. You would think the flavor and the picture in his role PM would be enough to tell him that he had the wrong Ansem in his avatar.

The only thing I can think of in defense of shotty is that he accurately described DiZ's appearance but he didn't do in the same post as his claim. There was some time in between so he could've been doing some research

[Flareonage]

Is there a reason you singled-out Riku specifically?

No.

he is the only extremely important KH character yet to die. Sora, Kairi, Goofy and Mickey are all gone.

The rest are just party members or FF characters. I was just saying that just because a role fits doesn't make it true

@DGB: You were told that you look like Ansem?

[Flareonage]

Was this proven or do we all trust DGB?

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As a matter of fact I do find this suspicious.

We discussed this earlier remember? The character in Shotty's avatar is not Ansem it is Xehanort's Heartless. DiZ is Ansem, Riku took the appearance of Shotty's avatar when he removed his blindfold. There is no reason for the mod to tell DGB that that is Ansem because when that happened gamewise it was already know that Xehanort was not the true Ansem

[Flareonage]

You're right about that but they mistook him for Xehanort's Heartless. Riku was never mistaken for Ansem because when these events happened everyone was aware that. Riku came in contact with sora and friends at the end of KH2

[Flareonage]

No, the only time Xehanort's heartless was referred to as Ansem was all throughout KH1. After that the real Ansem was introduced. Sora and Friends didn't even see Riku's face in KH2 until after Kairi told them the hooded man was Riku. Riku removed his hood and revealed that he had taken the appearence of Xehanort's heartless

I'll go read the modscene right now.

[Flareonage]

DRIPPING GOOF BALLS, TALK ABOUT THE MILLER THING NAO

If you're going to browbeat the easy-target miller, do it right. If you do it wrong, like you just did, you're scum. And don't worry. I'll die soon enough. I may be the first miller to be NK in the site's history.

BTW, if a player is in obvious need of protection, it's Gorrad. Please no one comment on this. All I'm going to say is, if I were scum, I would totally NK him. His knowledge of flavor is dangerous.

About zwet flipping town. Plum is now scum.

This post makes me EXTREMELY suspicious of DGB.

I haven't gotten to the mod scene. I've been distracted by ISO'ing DGB

[Flareonage]

Were you told you were RB'd, or do you assume it because you didn't get a result/reply from the mod?

The mod told me that I was roleblocked. So there's no grey area as to why I didn't get a result.

role blocked twice? You're not a very useful miller tracker, are you?

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Discode confused me even more. He never actually gave a role name. He only said that he is a miller. DGB was the one that provided the role name, this leaves 2 possiblities

A. DGB is telling the truth

B. DGB is lying and has knowledge of the KH games

I really don't know what to think. it is a smart strategy scum wise for someone to claim not to have knowledge of the flavor because this makes every flavor related post by that someone more believeable

[Flareonage]

I'm also thinking DGB is town. The only thing that bugs me is the Ansem thing.

[Flareonage]

That leans me back towards DGB scum. DGB did mention reading all the pages so she would've known that and even without knowledge of KH she could pull off a fakeclaim

[Flareonage]

That's what I was saying.

You have the role of Ansem, the guy in your avatar is not Ansem. Riku takes on the appearance of your avatar

[Flareonage]

That is because the guy in your avatar pretended to be ansem in kingdom hearts 1.

Google Kingdom Hearts 2 Ansem and you'll begin to get a mix of that guy and the real Ansem

[Flareonage]

The issue isn't with you right now. The issue is with DGB saying that her role PM says Riku took on the appearance of Ansem

[Flareonage]

Maybe there is no role blocker?

DGB and Ace don't have to be on the same scum team. maybe there's 1 left in each and that's them?

[Flareonage]

You're information is not so correct.

Xehanort was Ansem' apprentice and he took Ansem's name way before the game started.

1. Is Xehanort's Heartless known as Ansem in Kingdom Hearts 1 only. Riku takes this form in KH2

2. Nobody Xemnas. Gorrad's role

3. DiZ, the real Ansem

Based on all this info I'm going to

Unvote

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall

[Flareonage]

You are our only confirmation that there is a role blocker. If someone else confirms being roleblocked then I'll gladly change to Ace. I'd rather lynch the less obvious scum first

Unvote

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Flareonage]

I didn't reread. I just took your word for it

I find Ace > DGB in terms of scuminess.

I'd rather lynch less obvious scum because we pretty much know not to listen to anything Ace tells us. The less obvious scum will continue to deceive us and feed us wrong information and false suspicions. We won't be fulled by Ace but we can easily be fooled by DGB

[Flareonage]

Aren't you just accusing both players as scum? I don't see why you need to be that selective if you think Ace is scummier then DGB, but argue that DGB is manipulative scum.

The only thing scummier then scum is more scum.

You're right. I really don't care which one we lynch. I just want DGB to know that I'm on to her

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I think there's 2 scum left. 1 nobody scum and 1 heartless scum. Even if we lynch one there probably won't be a scumbuddy left. That's why I was being selective, the odds are better if we get the less obvious scum. We can just ignore Ace or continue to discredit him for one more round.

Now it sounds like I'm defending Ace. In the end lynching a scum is better then not lynching a scum and that's why I'm willing to switch to Ace if the town decides that is the better choice

[Flareonage]

Flare, the very first chronological time that Riku looks like XH, what do others call him? What does he call himself?

IIRC, They knew he was Riku before he took his hood off. They never called him anything besides Riku. He just didn't want his friends to find out that he gave in to the darkness

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Why do you think the two factions have uneven numbers of members?

If I'm not mistaken that would make 4 nobodies and 3 heartless. That's just what I think. The usually mafia ratio I have seen is 2.5 townies for everyone 1 scum. That means a 26 player game would have 7 scum.

Now it sounds like I'm defending Ace. In the end lynching a scum is better then not lynching a scum and that's why I'm willing to switch to Ace if the town decides that is the better choice

In practice, you are defending ace5743 - if only by voting someone else. Scum does that all the time.[/quote]

I could see why you would want to believe that as town or scum. If this was coming from someone else I would switch

Doesn't he appear as XH before that? Like in COM or whatever?

No, XH is the final boss of Riku's story line in COM. Riku appears as himself in 358/2 days with his blindfold on and he doesn't take it off until after the final boss battle meaning he didn't take XH's form until right before the events of KH2. There is no break between 358/2 days and KH2. They are right after each other time wise

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@Flare
You have yet to comment on the three kills. Do you assume DGB is correct that Kise protected a scum person (aka someone he thought who was town), or do we have 3 killing factions here.

I think it's the only logical explanation. We haven't had 3 deaths any other nights

[Flareonage]

Since we pretty much all agree that Ace is scum

Unvote

VOTE: Ace5993

[Flareonage]

I'm down to kill Ace, I think DGB should go next tomorrow.

Nice, but you are going to have to explain why and show all your calculations.

Honestly? Either you messed up when researching your fakeclaim or the mod doesn't know that much about Kingdom Hearts.

Seeing as how the roles are based off of KH2. I think the mod would know that Riku was never considered Ansem

[Flareonage]

I could see Malificent being the last remaining heartless or Saix being the last nobody.

I thought about it while I was in the shower and I've got further proof that Riku was never considered Ansem.

In KH2 Mickey sees a picture of "Ansem" (Shotty's Avatar) upon his arrival in Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden. He tells Sora and Friends that is not Ansem. Sora and Friends don't see Riku's face (They do see Riku but he is wearing his hood) until the very end of the game in the last world

[Flareonage]

I mean, who do you think DGB is given the ModScene (which DC presumably did not fabricate)?

That's what confuses me. That explanation makes perfect sense.

Damn you second scum. You are doing good

[Flareonage]

My scum list is either Ace/DGB or Ace/Shotty. I've been going off of the assumption that there are 2 scum left, 1 heartless and 1 nobody. I could be wrong about the number

[Flareonage]

@Town

Snow White is Confirmed Double Voter Townie

I do not see anything in your post that confrims it. I believe you but others might not.

[Flareonage]

I feel a little better about it now. I went on youtube to find a video of Riku taking off his blindfold to show you guys and they were all titled "Riku turning into Ansem." I wouldn't call him Ansem but apparently some people do

[Flareonage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OR9zh5pBw

He even mentions DiZ, the real Ansem. Don't know why people call Riku Ansem

NOTICE. This video contains major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. Watch at your own risk. ~Slicey~

[Flareonage]

Because she is trying to restore Sora's memories and Roxas has some of them. And Sora needs Roxas to become complete

[Flareonage]

I think Roxas is reunited with Sora 7 days after the beginning of KH2.

Who isn't voting Ace? It's time for a lynch

[Flareonage]

Roxas shows up during the game, though, doesn't he? So that means he keeps existing. I guess Riku just needs to shake the memories out of him rather than kill him or something?

He's only in the beginning, For 7 days. That's why it's 358 days cuz Roxas was alive for a year. 358 plus 7 is 365. After those 7 days he was reunited with Sora and Sora woke up

Btw, I just want to point out that we have 6 full claims on the table. (snow, DTM, Iec, Flare, DGB, Me)

Starbuck is innocent btw.....or at least does not show up as heartless/nobody to cop investigation. Discuss.

Snow was confirmed by DTM

DTM says he's Dale. Logical and believable

Iec also logical and believable

Flare is me and I know my alignment

DGB starting to believe is town cuz of Youtube

Sajin logical and believable

Starbuck was already logical and believable and now confirmed by you

That leaves UK, Shotty, Hayker and Ace.

Assuming we lynch ace then we're stuck with UK, Shotty, and Hayker. Jack Skellington, DiZ and Aeris. For flavor reasons I think DiZ would be fake claim and it goes along nicely with the Namine fake claim

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What's MC?

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Which one of these claimed vanilla? What about ace? What about my result that UK didn't do anything on Night 2? What is UK's role?

UK is Jack Skellington
Hayker is Aeris
Shotty is DiZ

None of them have done more then name claim, I think. I would really hate if I was the only Vanilla left

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I've already done what you're accusing me of not doing, scroll up. I was just answsering DGB's question thus the quote

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No, I'm pretty sure he's always been a villian. Malificent would make a good GF as would Xehanort's Heartless

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If anything, I would think Namine is a roleblocker. She wipes memories

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Don't have time for quoting.

@DTMaster: I meant if I were a mod and I put a namine role it would be a roleblocker since she wipes memories. I don't see how she would be a cop

@Snow white: I said it was logical and believable because it fits in with th leon role

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Sajin confirmed starbuck. That's good enough for me unless you can find a reason why we shouldn't trust sajin