~Jordan` wrote:RVS isnt very good unless you at least have a semi-valid reason to vote for that person.Cass wrote:Vote: DramonicBecause he likes killing too much.
vote Cassfor her "pro" RVSing.
I hate you already.
BM
~Jordan` wrote:RVS isnt very good unless you at least have a semi-valid reason to vote for that person.Cass wrote:Vote: DramonicBecause he likes killing too much.
vote Cassfor her "pro" RVSing.
lmaoBenmage wrote:Vote Battle Mageworst mage ever, will lose the game for us in Lylo, doesn't even cast low level fireballs well.
PLEASE tell me you arent a relative of YellowBunny. 0.oSnow_Bunny wrote:Vote: Kmd
He has a crazy avatar.
Haha, i cant comment sadly-is ongoing. But my first impressions aren't so favourable...dramonic wrote:I played with Yellowbunny and she was fine, maybe a bit lurky. Had a particularly scarring game with YB?Battle Mage wrote:PLEASE tell me you arent a relative of YellowBunny. 0.oSnow_Bunny wrote:Vote: Kmd
He has a crazy avatar.
BM
Lol, secondary wagon should be on Dramonic right about now. Why would his investigation be a waste if Milkshake flipped scum, as he claimed?dramonic wrote:That and he claimed Vig-Jester and somehow has a pre-game investigation (which he wasted on Milkshake?)
Seriously?
Vote: Kise
I dont understand the first comment.Kmd4390 wrote:Ben, it seemed fine to me.
Vaya, any reason for that vote?
I like this alot.SpyreX wrote:Ohh snap this game started. I have some stuff to talk about believe it or not woo!
Vote: Porkens
Now, see, this isn't a random vote. I want us to get a nice dispersment of votes so that when the first votecount comes up we can look and see if there is any modifications to the voting mechanics that we need to know about NOW versus later.
So, everyone needs a vote, but not a "true" wagon yet.
Which leads me to part deux:
This goes without saying, but I want to get this out now. With this being vanillaless lets not do the AWESOME wagon to claim to flip to a new wagon to claim to flip to a new wagon to claim. Barring miracles, if I'm going to vote for you BEFORE your claim I'm going to sure as hell hammer you after it.
That said, there's obviously some interesting roles in here. We're going to see a mix fo sho'.
That's a policy-vigging. xDSpyreX wrote: If I were vig, I'd shoot Kise.
Lol, i wonder why that was? -0.5 to both mages. :'(Kmd4390 wrote:Ben, you being lynched in Yaw's game. I didn't have a problem with it.
General Discussion it? lmaoBenmage wrote:Gd'it! Didn't Yaw teach you anything...stop flooding the thread.Battle Mage wrote: Lol, i wonder why that was? -0.5 to both mages. :'(
for you? Ofc! Count me in.tubby216 wrote:yah but this game is lacking DDD so we don't have wade through pages and pages of typed out verbal diaharea.Benmage wrote:Gd'it! Didn't Yaw teach you anything...stop flooding the thread.Battle Mage wrote: Lol, i wonder why that was? -0.5 to both mages. :'(
i surprised we have gotten to page three and ther eis no mention of a pact?
any takers?? one time offer!
True. But my issue is more with you attacking him beforehand. The whole thing seems a little contrived...Kmd4390 wrote:BM, Vaya said he was just wagoning and Kise had more votes.
Kise is full of stuff like this from what i recall. It seems all too familiar. Will post stuff on Jordan when i've had another drink.Benmage wrote:Really....no issue with winning...hmmm you are an odd one.Kmd4390 wrote:Ben, you being lynched in Yaw's game. I didn't have a problem with it.
@Vayabad. Why not kise?
I dont really recall a game where Kise opened with such absurdity, why the need to defend him Battle? And how is Jordan obv scum? Highlight for me puhlease.
Whereas your Kise vote was perfectly well validated? I think not. lolKmd4390 wrote:I was in class and had a vote with no reason sitting in front of me, so I asked about it.Battle Mage wrote: True. But my issue is more with you attacking him beforehand. The whole thing seems a little contrived...
Plum wrote:Win. Benmage's reaction is priceless.Kmd4390 wrote:You aren't going to spam why? Cuz I called you out on it? You're obvscum and have to be lynched ASAP.
Better yet,
Kill Benmage
Porkens made an early kill in a game once and hit my scumbuddy. Let's see where this gets us.
confirmed town, barring a counter-claim.Snow_Bunny wrote:Ok, after some thoughts, I decided to do it. Claim: I'm a miller. I was hesitant to do it, as I have no apparent reason to claim, but I do. I've learned that millers can help investigative roles by providing a "safe" test. And it's better if I claim early on.
(Something tells me that I'll probably end up lynched, but still, I must do what I think it's best for town.)
YO! I already said i was in! Now, proxy me your vote already!tubby216 wrote:unvote
so yah this pact thing who's up for it?
Thats dumb. Why would Snow Bunny-scum claim miller, when she was highly unlikely to be investigated, and it would put her under loads of heat? She's pretty well confirmed town imo.tubby216 wrote:Snow_Bunny wrote:Ok, after some thoughts, I decided to do it. Claim: I'm a miller. I was hesitant to do it, as I have no apparent reason to claim, but I do. I've learned that millers can help investigative roles by providing a "safe" test. And it's better if I claim early on.
(Something tells me that I'll probably end up lynched, but still, I must do what I think it's best for town.)vote: snow_bunny
millers need lynched
Lmao! From this point on, i'm actually going to read your posts.Kise wrote: Battle Mage & myself recently avoided contacting chlamydia from Kelly Chen.
0.o Conversely, i'm giving your posts a wide berth from now on...dramonic wrote:I ain't hetero, Haylen is hermaphrodite dear. She's got boobs but down there she's all male.
Haha, i hope you've got the feet for those shoes...Plum wrote:Kise - why no love?
Anyone know if Benmage is an idiot or faking it?
dramonic wrote:Kise, I'm completely lost through your claim. What are you, a suicidal 3-shot cop?
Also, if your investigations are true and not another weird trick of yours, then we can presume you're insane.
....Kublai Khan wrote:WTF? Who honestly starts off a game thinking "I'm going to play in the most anti-town fashion possible?Kise wrote:What is it you want to hear from me? Confirmation on what I said in my 1st post? I'm just... bringing in the ChristMastin spirit, is all. I wanted attention. I got it.
^5SpyreX wrote:And, just to see if this is something more than silliness:
Pact: Tubby
Or, more likely, we see that DeathNote hasnt read his role pm.dramonic wrote:In this post, we see DN is a third partyDeathNote wrote:That depends.... is council town?
Unvote
Vote: DeathNote
Incidentally, I don't like third parties.
Actually, i've got no idea. But then, as it's only flavour, it doesnt really matter.Plum wrote: If you were Town you'd know that whatever your alignment was was Town.
Kublai Khan wrote:
Nice attempt to distract from answering Plum's question, though.
ehhh, i dont like this.Snow_Bunny wrote:Can I join the bandwagon?
Vote: DeathNote
Well, my role pm made it clear that the Council was town, so if you really didn't know it's because YOU ARE NOT TOWN!!!!
And now you become utterly useless to us, if you are indeed town. Fantastic!DeathNote wrote:Entering Active Lurker Mode
I like this better.Sajin wrote:Explain this stark. Now. Are you mafia or 3rd party?stark wrote:It should say it in your PM, scum.DeathNote wrote:Where does it say what is town anywhere? Is it listed that Council=town? If so, point it out to me please.
unvote
Vote: DeathNote
unvote; vote: Stark
Your original statement was that it said Council = Town in his role pm. Which it seems it doesn't. That's a lie.stark wrote:....Sajin wrote:Explain this stark. Now. Are you mafia or 3rd party?stark wrote:It should say it in your PM, scum.DeathNote wrote:Where does it say what is town anywhere? Is it listed that Council=town? If so, point it out to me please.
unvote
Vote: DeathNote
unvote; vote: Stark
1. The game begins with the death of "The Giver"
2. "The Giver", as stated in the introduction, is aligned with the Council
3. "The Giver"'s name has been written in green.
4. Green is the color asigned to all dead player/NPCs aligned with the town.
5. I am aligned with the council
I don't understand how this was even a question.
No, Vaya, it makes no sense. Think in terms of Reward vs Risk. What the hell is the merit in claiming something that may well get you lynched Day 1 or Day 2, with the prospect of not getting in trouble if there is a cop alive at endgame. I dont think Snow Bunny is anyone's top investigation choice in terms of experience. Look back at the responses to Kise's claim of a guilty. There was speculation about why he would target somebody inexperienced.Vaya wrote:When I first read my role PM and it said and it said I was aligned with the council, I wasn't sure if I was town until I looked closely at my role PM and didn't see any scum partners and noticed my town looking win condition. So I don't blame Death Note for his unsureness, and if anything, it makes me want to believe that he's town.
I really don't like the "It should say the council is town in your role PM" comments from Snow_Bunny and stark. Nothing in my role PM outright states that the council is town.
Unvote, Vote: Snow_Bunny, because I also am weary of that miller claim.
I very much disagree with this. I've heard plenty of talk of KK winning a game thanks to a miller claim. What makes you think that all throughout the game, no cop would ever want to investigate her? She's hardly confirmed town.Battle Mage wrote: Thats dumb. Why would Snow Bunny-scum claim miller, when she was highly unlikely to be investigated, and it would put her under loads of heat? She's pretty well confirmed town imo.
I'll also second vollkan's question towards Snow_Bunny, because the way she worded her claim bothers me. Where did you learn that millers should claim early on?
Am i really getting preached at by the self-voter? Christ... 0.oDeathNote wrote:@BM- you want me prodded for not posting within the last six hours? Come on BM, your better then that.
I laughed so hard, i spat drink all over my laptop. *facepalm*Benmage wrote:I'm not saying it back! I wont! I'm .... I'm going to lynch you!Battle Mage wrote:Benmage is obvtown.
BM
Can we do a Vaya wagon first? I'm not feeling so good about Stark after Jordans vote...Benmage wrote: On the flip. I think Stark and Vaya are scum.
unvote vote Stark
Snow Bunny read that game? I doubt it. I can sympathise with your meta, but in this case, i still feel it's highly unlikely Bunny is running a gambit. And if it IS a gambit, it probably deserves a good run.VP Baltar wrote:I can't believe you are actually making me link this game. You just wanted to dig up the wounds after they finally healed.Battle Mage wrote:Snow Bunny is obvtown. You have 1 post in which to remove your vote from her, or you earn mine.
OMG IT'S THE DRAMALLAMA! xDtubby216 wrote:hi thar llama, long time no see
I like this. Will look at Jordan again later. In the meantime, this could go somewhere.populartajo wrote:Okay. Bunny is town.
This is a terrible post. Not because you fakeclaimed miller that means everyone claiming miller must be scum. Also its pretty obvious that Bunny's motivations are not scummy and you trying to paint her obv newbie motivation (get any investigating role to confirm its sanity) as a mafia watcher move is scummy as hell.Kublai Khan wrote:I loved comments like this when I fakeclaimed miller.Battle Mage wrote:confirmed town, barring a counter-claim.
Sounds like the mafia team has a Watcher role.Snow_Bunny wrote:That's why I'm telling you, you can lynch me whenever you want, but I claimed for the sake of town. If any investigating role wishes to confirm its sanity, just check me, and if you still don't believe me, you can easily lynch me tomorrow (and thus reveal that I'm just a townie that feels guilty.)
unvote
vote: Snow_Bunny
You are like pressuring someone for no reason at all.
Vote : Kublai Khan.
Gladly. I dont have an issue with you saying that useful reaction came from the DayVig gambit. Iirc, i had major issues with the manner in which you claimed the reaction was scummy, when in fact, it really wasnt. You were blowing smoke, when in reality, i dont see any reason to back up your belief.Plum wrote: BM, you didn't seem to like that I thought some useful reactions (scummy ones) came out of Kmd's fake-dayvig-gambit, or that I was enthusiastic about it; you even voted me apparent;y because of that. Care to expound?
EH? 0.oPlum wrote: I have a huge aversion to those who want to confirm SB up simply because of the Miller claim. Llama's stance is one I've previously adopted, and especially given notorious shenanigans by Kublai in a recent game- which many are aware of - there's too much WIFOM to confirmanythingabout a Day 1 Miller claimer. The Battle Mage, I say: I don't think BN, is, at this point, scummy enough to warrant today's lynch but: WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM, and not the helpful kind, either.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRpopulartajo wrote:Also BM, strop triple posting.
I'm nowhere near catching up and being able to post properly. -.-~Jordan` wrote:kk. Explain?Plum wrote:1. No.~Jordan` wrote:Question: if stark hadnt made that post, would DeathNote be dead by now?
Using this argument, who should we lynch today?
2. No.
This makes no sense, given you have not pointed out any slips. Instead, you've explained why your vote should remain on Stark- DeathNote has posted more, and had more potential scope to slip.~Jordan` wrote:that was SO useful. thx again.dramonic wrote:at the bottom of the page, under the quick-submit you'll find "Display posts from previous:" and a bunch of scrollboxes.
Just pick a player and you can read em in isolation (called ISO)
Hm. DN seems to have spammed more than stark, and many posts allow for an easier slip, I believe.
Yeh, i'm expecting a surge of abuse, followed by your inevitable Mod-kill.Benmage wrote:that was a joke..see kmd spryex and ddd, who i crossed out were scum in the game that just ended.. i tossed battle mage in there cuz that mofo needs to die!LlamaFluff wrote:You also listed kmd, spyrex and BM... and made them sound like higher suspects then the othersBenmage wrote:Didnt i just list DN, Stark and Vaya as probably scum.LlamaFluff wrote: @ben - Who is scum?
Rosso Carne wrote:die in a fucking fire you fucktardBenmage wrote:So lookin at the list page one.
Kaleidiscope
Alvin
and Rosso Carne need to post more/catchup, or asked to be replaced before replacement becomes impossible.
DGB also is probably scum. Lookin at a quick iso, i get the scum move of "i'm here" cause hes postingish to appear here, without really adding anything.
wtf? Ugh, back we go:~Jordan` wrote:lol. Twas a joke. Nonetheless,Rosso Carne wrote:And yet I've still posted more content than benmage.~Jordan` wrote:Rosso Carne wrote:die in a fire n00BPorkens wrote:Vote Cassfor bringing up bad memories.
Daykill SpyreXbecause that is how I roll.
If I were vig, I'd shoot Sociopath.Rosso Carne wrote:what the fuck? shut up with the useless shit kthx.Let's be nice now.Rosso Carne wrote:die in a fucking fire you fucktardBenmage wrote:So lookin at the list page one.
Kaleidiscope
Alvin
and Rosso Carne need to post more/catchup, or asked to be replaced before replacement becomes impossible.
DGB also is probably scum. Lookin at a quick iso, i get the scum move of "i'm here" cause hes postingish to appear here, without really adding anything.
Those are 3 of his 4 posts, the first of whih saying solely "kill: VP Baltar".
Dont tell me how to play the game please.FoS Rosso Carne
Vaya's vote on Jordan with no reasoning on Page 2 is a towntell. KMD pushing the "why Jordan and not Kise?" thing early on looks bad in light of Jordan's townflip. Could indicate a KMD-Kise scumpair. I dont like the way Benmage backed him up on this either. KMD only hops on the Vaya wagon after Stark does, which is scummy. Ben then follows his vote. 99 by Dramonic is not very logical. 103 makes me think Vaya's vote is null, and he is just over-confident. 109 by Sociopath is scummy - given he didnt mention Benmage being scummy until he was pushed on it. 113 by Benmage is completely inexplicable- since when did he become Anti-BW? 0.o'Kmd4390 wrote:Kmd4390 wrote: BM, why?
It's not for you, it's for me. But seeing as you've read it- any comments?dramonic wrote:This game and dodgeball share too much of a player-list. It's hard not to cross-post @_@
@BM: That was not a pleasant read. Try to put more space, it just looks clogged to hell.
Ah sorry Ben. This is what i was referring to, but reading again, i think i was wrong. At the time, it sounded like you were implying that a mafia QT was surprising to you, and ofc, i know this shouldnt be the case.Benmage wrote:I thought I did comment on that, wondering if there was an instance in which scum didnt have a QT.Snow_Bunny wrote: I'm sorry, but I didn't post that. But I'm guessing you meant the accusation I did to Kise about he knowing there was a mafia QT, which, btw, everybody ignored... T_T
That kind of thing never really gets brought up, and yet here, you and Ben made it into a big issue. Ironically, your response was to wagon him to the grand total of...2 votes. You had already decided you were going to make a bit of a play with Vaya, even BEFORE he explained his vote was just an attempt to bandwagon, which is why the whole thing seems very forced.Kmd4390 wrote:BM, the question to Vaya was legit. Vaya said the Jordan vote was just for the sake of wagoning and it was on the second largest wagon. When Stark voted, I figured a second vote would be good to add some pressure. Vaya answered pretty well, but hasn't done much since.
Haha, funny boy! Lurkers was obviously a key reason we lost. Spam was not. How on earth do you intend to support your claim that Benmage is deliberately LURKING?KMD wrote: No, Yaw's game was pretty bad as far as walls/spam/lurkers. Whether it's why we (the scum) won or not, it was a pretty hot topic in the postgame. Benmage saw that and I believe he tried to replicate it. Thanks for reminding me. I'd forgoten that point against Ben.
Needless to say, i completely disagree. And, if i recall correctly, you didnt feel so strongly at the time, as you did a couple of pages ago, when the issue was raised again.KMD wrote: Of course I think Ben's reaction to my fakekill was scummy. Didn't I say that a few times?
Looked like you were trying to pressure him on distancing from a town-wagon. That stance is consistent with you still being on the wagon.KMD wrote: Gonna make me open another window now so I can see what 321 was...
How do you get me knowing DN to be town out of this? I was questioning Spy for turning around on his stance. I'm still going after DN at that point.Me where BM says I know DN to be town wrote:Spy, why so sure you were wrong about DeathNote?
Lol, on what grounds is Vollkan your biggest town read?KMD wrote:BM wrote:417 by KMD cleverly leaves the option of Vollkan being scum open.What is clever about that? Of course it's possible for him to be scum. He happens to be one of my biggest town reads so far, but I could be wrong.Kmd in 417 wrote:DGB, Volkan isn't bussing me. I'm town.
Milkshake agreed, so i think, unless they are incredibly stupid scumbuddies, it's null.stark wrote:Maybe it's a dumb idea, but the way in which SB was saying that cops should use her to test their investigations bothered me.
Could it be possible that it's some kind of trap? That she might have some kind of ability that does bad things to people who target her?
LlamaFluff wrote:Sounded like "I have comprimsied, why cant you" when you look at the placement of your vote, and your suspicions.Benmage wrote:where did i suggest you have to back down??LlamaFluff wrote:So I have to back down quickly now?Benmage wrote:The kmd lynch seems fine, tho i'd prefer DGB, Vaya, Stark or Battle Mage.LlamaFluff wrote: I need to look at this kmd thing closer, as on the surface I support a tubby or even a cass lynch before his, without too much hesitation.
One of my suspects is laughing at my pushed, one is AWOL. Neither of those things is going to make me drop it.
I dont agree with these interpretations. It simply sounded like he was getting his thoughts down. Vollkan's line of interrogation is ridiculously contrived.vollkan wrote: Which has no relation to what you said.
It looks to me like you were basically trying to persuade Llama to accept a lynch which he has professed to consider sub-optimal on the basis that you also had to 'compromise'
not sold on? You dont sound too convinced either way. Sitting on the fence?Kublai Khan wrote:Snow_Bunny, benmage, and SocioPath would make great lynches today.
Kmd4390, I'm not sold on. I only have a town meta for him and he's playing along the lines of that town meta.
oh.Kmd4390 wrote:I am The Rats. Special type. Self-aligned. My power is the thing that I'm not saying, but will catch the SK. Win condition is that I win when someone (I don't know their alignment) is lynched. If people want me to even say who that is in order to stay alive, I will. They could still be scum, so I don't mind saying who it is.
Really? My first reaction was that we have at least one other neutral "The Rats" which are like SK's. Otherwise i dont understand the link between Poptaj and KMD.dramonic wrote:well, KK's death is kinda obvious: Tajo mustve been a vig
also, stump is unlikely, we still have 23 votes for 22 players
DrippingGoofball wrote:It looks like Spryrex is indeed still alive. I'm sure that the scum that tried to kill him have a lot of questions.
I agree with dramonic. Good job tajo.
erm, wierd as that is, i dont see why it implicates SB, when everyone here has an ability of some sort.SpyreX wrote:@Sajin:
Your question doesn't make sense unless its a different way of saying "Did you kill yourself?" Which, of course, the answer is no. Something happened.
And SB playing coy makes me think something is amiss with what I tried to do to them.
So, lets lay this out all properlike:
I am an Alchemist. Each night I can give someone one of my myriad of potions (and there's alot of them). Of course they're all nice and colored... but not labeled. So I have no idea what my potions can do (but based on colors I can take somewhat of a guess).
Last night I tried to give my BLACK potion to SB. Yea, thats right, I tried to (I hoped) kill the miller.
Yet, somehow I killed myself. Which means either SB did some kinda reflexive business or something truly fishy is going on.
Unvote, Vote: Snow_Bunny
I made it pretty clear I did something to SB and the coy act doesn't do any good.
Maybe you were roleblocked. Maybe you were bus drivered. Maybe the black potion DID do something, and the dying was completely unrelated. See, your claim is believable in and of itself, but the conclusions you are trying to encourage us to draw from it, don't add up.SpyreX wrote:@BM:
I threw a black potion at SB and got flavor of killing myself.
Riddle me how that doesn't implicate SB.
Lol, is this OMGUSville? I'm bored now. So let me put it like this. If you aren't dead tomorrow, you will be lynched.SpyreX wrote:I'm assuming I'm dead come night (no reason, just intuition at the fact I'm in essence a ghost).
And BM's new "maybe what you're piecing together with the logic you have versus adding in wild additional variables" doesn't make me very happy.
Considering KK was all over the miller claim being fake and the whole "cops check here kthx" I could see some kind of elaborate bus. Double considering that BM is defending a miller makes even less sense.
So, what are you suggesting? I'm scum that somehow ghosted myself and am using it to try and kill a miller? Or..?
I want SB dead. If SB is scum I want BM dead.