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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:43 pm

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I'm here!
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Post Post #26 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:24 am

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Vote: mufasa


scary lion :(
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Post Post #34 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:27 am

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Now THAT is an unusual behaviour from DN. With what was in the first post, I believe the best course of action would be to vig him.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:07 am

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Unvote
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I dont believe inhim being jester and his posts are just weird. He shouldn't complain anyways, since he's going to "win"

I say its a gambit.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:10 pm

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at, at this rate we have less than 16 days to lynch.
Well, 14 now.

The DN wagon "interests" you? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:48 am

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At this rate we're going to be energy efficient.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:54 am

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A jester can't hammer himself.

Also, you're at L-1, think it's about time you drop the act.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #7) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:47 am

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I thought they never could...
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Post Post #77 (isolation #8) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:18 am

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Lolicon, something like an Japanese cartoon pedo XD
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Post Post #84 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:43 am

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Lunatic mode... *shudder*
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Post Post #109 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:29 pm

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That was waaaaaaaaaaaay too fast for confort.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:06 pm

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Vote: Zwet


Do I even need to explain?
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Post Post #123 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:55 am

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mipe wrote:Help me, EIRINNNN!

To say it bluntly, I'm a moon bunny and your mind will be shattered if you try to kill me.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:14 pm

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Elmo wrote:what the hell is a moon bunny?
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Reisen_Udongein_Inaba

That is a moon rabbit. It's also Mipe's role.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:17 pm

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Vi wrote:Nobody has died.
@Mod: What's the small text after the votecount supposed to mean?
@SpyreX: Explanation?

Fixed quote tag. ~Vi
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Post Post #156 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:17 pm

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quote fail
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Post Post #160 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:31 pm

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I've never heard of daytime BP and Reisen flavour doesn't fit with that.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:36 am

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Vote:Mipe


So you're townie but you survived a kill? Sure...
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Post Post #180 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:58 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
mipe wrote:To say it bluntly, I'm a moon bunny and your mind will be shattered if you try to kill me.
That's a nice one too. It kinda explains why the kill would fail too (illusions or stuff like that, freakin bunny)
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Post Post #187 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:44 am

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I think now he's at L-2?
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Post Post #204 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:20 am

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link fail Vi ^_^;
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Post Post #220 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:08 pm

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This game is going to be short if everyday ends in like 48 hours 0_o
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Post Post #222 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:28 pm

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why would you not complain? It cuts down hard on the scumhunting possibilities when everything ends in a quick-lynch <_<
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Post Post #224 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:30 pm

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I don't know, is he the type to write elaborate analysis?
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Post Post #227 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:34 pm

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mkay.

Now if Vi could get over here so we can see the one truth through Reisen's illusions...
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Post Post #230 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:25 pm

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So you really were vanilla?
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Post Post #255 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:53 am

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The Incredible Hulk wrote:
Easy for scum, scum no need hammer. Zwet does hammer for scum!
So zwet not scum by your own word, why do you want to lynch him?

major FoS: Hulk

I also dislike Vaya's lack of contribution.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:00 pm

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Now now, who of Pesco or Xyl can explain the votecount oddity?
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Post Post #274 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:19 pm

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Not if neither cooperate.
So... one of you?
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Post Post #277 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:18 pm

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I'm guessing for a combinaison of the two.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:56 am

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Now that this is solved, we need to do something bout our lurker.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:49 am

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Sotty7 wrote:Do you really think a lurker lynch is the way to go?
Not at all. I said we need to do something about Vaya, I wasn't referring to lynching her <_<

Get her to post is more like it.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:28 am

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don't we have the SpyreX shot option?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:33 am

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I never heard of an inventor giving doublevote giveway abilities.

Oh wait, I get it.

Vote: Zakeri
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Post Post #304 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:55 am

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Now, miss Zakeri admits to givng someone (Pesco) a double-vote. A bit strange.
However, we can suppose her giving is not limited to votes (AKA, guess she's an inventor)

What type of town inventor would give fake-daykills?
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Post Post #314 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:31 am

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But SpyreX... All we did together, was it for naught? ;_;
You break my heart...

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Post Post #315 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:33 am

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Reason for the above vote:

With the very short length of days so far there hasn't been much ground for scumhunting. I can be wrong about the Zak-inventor theory. However this "contribution" by Sotty aint theory, its fact.

SpyreX, can you clone yourself?
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Post Post #322 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:44 am

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SpyreX wrote:The problem is that, really, I'd kill almost any of you at this point.
True for the most part. Personally my gut says town bout you and Kmd though
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Post Post #324 (isolation #38) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:38 am

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unvote

Vote: Vaya

It worked for Sotty :3

Just noticed... SpyreX, why aren't you voting Sotty7, considering you're the one who's laying the case?
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Post Post #333 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:33 pm

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So you think scum are Mufasa, Zakeri and Pesco yet you vote Vaya?
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Post Post #354 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:55 pm

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Well, your predecessor lurked so... not off the top of my head.

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Post Post #402 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:48 pm

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Plum, I was pretty sure Mipe was bulletproof or something of that vein. But he claimed townie! No duh I vote him.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:16 pm

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Someone has to go and my read on Xyl is town. Let's see, where could I find someone who's contribution is really not that useful and close enough to prevent the obvtown lynch... Oh look, I know!

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Post Post #443 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:59 am

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Elmo wrote: dramonic: Xyl is obvtown? Seriously?
Elmo wrote:See, I distinctly remember you [Xyl] advocating in Mafia Discussion that we lynch people who deliberately make it hard for us to read them, right alongside lurker lynches, in fact using pretty much exactly the same reasoning - you'll never be able to read them, so lynch them.
This. Either he's totally fooling me, or I find Xyl easy to read.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:50 pm

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Personally I like the game
It's got a decent player list (though I do wish we had less lurkers)
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Post Post #473 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:25 pm

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Zakeri wrote: dramonic - jumped from me to sotty to vaya to hulk. You can sure find a reason to jump on someone, but you can't seem to find a reason to stay or go back. Also note your vote on me was after Spy's vote on me. On Sotty you jumped on onto Spy's case along with Hulk, even though Spy didn't switch votes then. The vote for Vaya seems to be based on that your vote for Sotty is useless now that Sotty posted, even though you were supposedly voting to lynch scum, not to inactive prod. Finally, your reason for the leap on Hulk is almost literally "Who besides Xyl has the most votes on them?" - Definately Scum, probably with Xyl.
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I honestly didn't expect Sotty to react to the votes on him and start posting again. When he did, I decided it was worth doing on Vaya too. The less lurkers, the better the state of the game, ja?

Last, I have a town read on Xyl. Hulk I have a neutral-leaning scum read. His play is somewhat reminiscent of Zwet's, but I haven't played in enough games with Hulk to see if it's abnormal of him. I could try to get other players lynched than him, but he's not on my town list, and this town is so lethargic and the deadline unpredictable enough that I prefer going for the lynch with the higher odds of keeping my town reads alive.
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Post Post #496 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:28 am

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Night one, I was given the ability to busdrive. Knowing I could only use this ability for that night, I wanted to make it a good one, since it could potentially kill a mafioso in my hands. I reread the Game during the night, and I picked KMD out as scum for this post
You picked KMD and...?
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Post Post #498 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:38 am

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It's funny how following her logic KMD is confirmed town to her yet he isn't as town as Pesco.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:45 am

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She's too experienced for the noob-card too.

I call BS

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Post Post #515 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:44 pm

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Zakeri wrote: Who said I was going to play the newb card?
Nobody, I'm just saying you're not a newb, therefore you'd be aware that KMD is confirmed town by your own word.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:23 pm

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I dont see how the fact Zak says KMD is town make her less likely to be scum. Scum KNOWS who is town, really.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:41 pm

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@_@

Zak and Hulk keep outscumming each other, it's seriously getting annoying.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:26 am

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Sotty7 wrote: Do you think scum would like clearing townies when they don't need to?
Sure, if it can make em appear town. They can NK them after.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:44 pm

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unvote
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I'm fine with an Hulk lynch. Zwet, do the honors.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:51 am

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Mufasa's basically ready to lynch anyone except us <<
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Post Post #567 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:37 pm

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That's a pretty aggressive claim you have against me. Any reason why we should trust you? (Hint: I won't)
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Post Post #570 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:40 pm

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Also, the fact Mufasa flipped
Lightning rod
makes me very dubious of your claim <_<
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Post Post #572 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:52 pm

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a role that make EVERY action during the night target the same person AKA the lightning rod.

This doesn't explain SpyreX's death, but I know I'm not responsible for it.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:20 pm

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Try again. ~Vi



Night 1, I targeted Xyl
Night 2, I targeted Kmd
Night 3, I targeted SpyreX

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Post Post #576 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:21 pm

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I DID target SpyreX, that's true.
But I didn't kill him. I protected myself from him.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:28 pm

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My mistake ><

I am Koishi Komeiji, Subconscious Nexus

Can I explain my role, or would that be a modkillable offense? I mean, it's custom :S
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Post Post #580 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:32 pm

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Well, first post says only rolename and flavour name XS

Anyways. I can target someone each night. People I targetted will be met with a nexus effect if they try to target me.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:32 pm

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nexus: randomly redirected to another player.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:53 pm

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Let's try this again...

I am Koishi Komeiji, subconscious nexus

I used to have the power to read minds, but since that caused problem with social interactions I chose to close my third eye. That backfired, now I read/alter subconscious.

Depths "Genetics of the Subconscious": After I target someone, their attempts to target me will be redirected at someone randomly.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:04 pm

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I've established someone who is scummy won't do the kill if they can avoid it. Therefore I dont see that much of a use to protecting myself agaisnt my scumreads. Additionally, Zak (whom I have a scumread on) claimed things like DV gifts and busdrives. If she isn't lying, Nexusing both these powers could have deadly effects for the town.

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Post Post #586 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:08 pm

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Elmo wrote:dramonic, who do you think killed SpyreX?
Why do you think KMD and SpyreX were likely to fool you?
What did you think about Xyl on Night 1?
Well, on one hand, if Kmd is correct about me and him being the only ones to target SpyreX, it'd have to be him

On the other, he's appeared fairly protown to me for the most part, and with the amount of godly powers in touhou, an investigate immune mafioso wouldn't even surprise me.

I expect KMD, SpyreX and Xyl to be the most prone to fool me because they have much more experience than the others from what I've seen/read. Players with experience know how to appear town.

Well, his play is weird, but I've never played with him. All the more reason to choose him.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:20 pm

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Zakeri wrote: What happened between yesterday and last night to cause such a drastic change?
There is no drastic change Zak. It's called an insurance.
Zakeri wrote:Dramonic, would you please go ahead and give a list like I, Hulk, and a few other's did yesterday?
Will do, if you can wait til tomorrow. Well, today, depends what timezone you're in.

After I've slept and return from school.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:34 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:dramonic, where have you seen Lightning Rod before?
In the basic role flash. I also put one in my eventual setup.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:43 pm

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Kmd4390 wrote:So Dramonic can target someone and if they target him, they are redirected to someone else?
-How likely does it seem that this will even be useful?
-How does this sound like a town role?
-How did Spy die if Dramonic didn't kill him?
-Why would he target the towniest players?
-Screws the mafia kill
-Considering a scum with my role could protect himself against basically anyone who claim, how'd that ever be balanced?
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-Not towniest. Also, Xyl and you aren't dead as far as I know <<
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Post Post #607 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:58 am

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scum nexus would be grossly overpowered Xyl.
I mean, you're the balance guy <<
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Post Post #609 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:10 am

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I already said nexusing my scumreads wasn't a priority.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:29 am

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The moment you target a cop you're almost investigation immune, the moment you target a vig you're bulletproof...

As scum it'd be way too swingy.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:32 am

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so is lightning rod <<

anyway what would be the use of a scum LR and a scum Nexus?
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Post Post #616 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:38 am

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No, I'm aware, I'm saying the two on a scumteam is balance-breaking, not that they cant exist.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:38 am

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Post Post #619 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 am

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Considering you're planning to lynch me, I tend to disagree.

Also, your list will come after school. I am at school, I dont have elongated periods of time to type.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:26 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:Note Dramonic's strange hesitation to full claim until explicitly forced to. That's not the town dramonic I know.
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Try again. ~Vi



Night 1, I targeted Xyl
Night 2, I targeted Kmd
Night 3, I targeted SpyreX

I've been immunizing myself agaisnt the people I believe are the most apt to fool me.
I claimed earlier, but Vi deleted it <<
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Post Post #625 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:35 pm

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Elmo: Fairly protown throughout the game. I don't see anything really suspect.


Kmd4390: used to think pretty much confirmed town read due to the BD shenanigan, but with the reveal of a potential second scum team I'm not so sure anymore. That, coupled with the fact I know I'm town, makes me a tad suspicious. Still think he's town though.


Pesco47: Really not a lot of content, yet someone the most protown player is Zak's eyes. I call scumteam on them 2.


Plum: Pretty good content. One of my stronger town-read. Town


Sotty7: Was lurking until called out on it, but since then has provided decent content. Town.


tubby: Vaya lurked, and tubby has posted basically no content. scum


Xylthixlm: While a lot of his "contribution" are one liner, I have a real strong gut feeling he's town.


Zakeri: The more the game goes, the less I trust her. The double-vote giving was completely random, and the busdrive could potentially be a cover at this point. Leaning scum


zwetschenwasser: His usual playstyle. I can never read him. No effing clue. X_X



So, in a more orderly fashion


Town

Plum, Xyl, Elmo, Sotty, Kmd


Neutral

Zwet


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Zakeri, Pesco, Tubby
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Post Post #628 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:09 pm

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It's me :D

Is the legendary flying saucer an undefined fantastic object?

It's a Flying Fantastica~ ~Vi
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Post Post #653 (isolation #79) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 pm

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You,re still ignoring the options of two scumteams Kmd.

Also, there is also the possibility of a delayed kill. Your "evidence" wuld be good if this was a normal setup, but this isn't.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 pm

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delayed, stuff like poisoners.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #81) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:05 pm

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tubby216 wrote:so dram is at l-1,

hmmm
great observation Sherlock Holmes.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:16 am

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:(

You make me sad...
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Post Post #693 (isolation #83) » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:43 pm

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Mooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :(
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Post Post #835 (isolation #84) » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:19 pm

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damn you Kmd!

wait... you're not even a tracker/watcher 0_o

...I want an explanation...
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Post Post #836 (isolation #85) » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:19 pm

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can you self-target with an invention?
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Post Post #838 (isolation #86) » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:25 pm

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you... caught me? I missed that part
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Post Post #842 (isolation #87) » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:29 pm

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scum killed you by accident

something redirected us.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #88) » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:30 pm

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I spent the three nights of my lives killing people and making myself kill-immune XP
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Post Post #853 (isolation #89) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:15 am

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Elmo wrote:In other news, I've been playing the demo of, uh, "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil" lots. Game reminds me of Ikaruga. Thanks, V
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I can link you to the real thing if you wish.
Now if I could clear it on hard it'd be nice...
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Post Post #855 (isolation #90) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:12 am

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Vi wrote: Vi if you need another replacement or have another one coming up soon drop me a line i'll /in.
To be fair,
nobody
understood the flavor except the people who dropped in from other forums.
[/quote]

and the people who pre-inned XP
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Post Post #861 (isolation #91) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:36 am

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forbiddanlight wrote: That's nice. And what was wrong will targetting Zwet with his own ability?

And I roleblocked the Roleblocker. Good going me

Wellp, I did nothing this game and died fast.

Why was I killed again?
Because Kmd had been saved day 1 and we didnt want to target him again, Xyl was completely berserk and you were the player we considered a threat the most (By we I mean me, since my acolytes kinda followed me XS)

I should have known you're terrible at scumhunting :P
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Post Post #870 (isolation #92) » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:34 pm

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Shameimaru was a fakeclaim, so likewise I dont suffer the "not having that role". Although Koishi is badass :D
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