Battle Mafia: Game Over

[BloodCovenent]

CKD was the first to enter the room, and as reward, was nominated as prime candidate for mayorship. His credentials are reflected in his vote tally- for today he has a Triple-Vote.

Vote: CKD

The mayor dies and not only is CKD the first to arrive at the crime scene, but he also takes the late mayor's job. CKD is scum and must die.

That's all WIFOM.

Vote: Volkan

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Pfft. If I was scum, I would be terrified about drawing attention to myself and would have been too scared to post the obvious wifom you refer to.

The fact you evidently failed to turn you mind to this clearly establishes opportunism.

Unvote, Vote: BloodCovenent

Isn't that more WIFOM there? And it feels like an OMGUS vote too.

-I'm just saying.

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now that I think about it, let's not get into a discussion of what scum would do, and when. At least not now. We can later.

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Work. Busy. Shit. V/LA. Tomorrow night.

Same thing for me. Getting ready for college, while still working a shitload of hours. I seriously apologize. Your questions will be answered tomorrow, I promise.

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Pfft. If I was scum, I would be terrified about drawing attention to myself and would have been too scared to post the obvious wifom you refer to.

now that I think about it, let's not get into a discussion of what scum would do, and when. At least not now. We can later.

does that help anyone? Most of the discussion we had on page two, was all Wifomy.

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now that I think about it, let's not get into a discussion of what scum would do, and when. At least not now. We can later.

I THINK WE GOT ONE HAR.

vote:bloodcovenent

any other reason?

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BC, how serious was your vote for vollkan?

leaning towards serious. as apposed to joke-vote.

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I say no.

Vollkan's post was WIFOM, Benmage. It was intentionally self-referential WIFOM meant as an ironic joke. But still WIFOM.

I guess I just never saw it as an ironic joke.

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Patience is a virtue.

But until the dramatic reveal of my reasoning, I have a question for you, CKD - do you know why you became the mayor?

no. do you?

I thought he was just up for nomination for mayor...?

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Explain yourself, now.

Ehhhh, something is off here. He seems a lot pushier in this game than in his others.

Unvote. Vote: DTMaster.

Lynch all Discrepancies.

I disagree with your theory.

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Yo BC, volkan vote: Serious or Not?

You be the judge!

FoS:Spyrex

To forgiving. Mild coaching. Trying to give a player an excuse.

Not really... how would I know what the correct answer would be.

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Pushy? Not really. "Explain yourself" is hardly a pushy statement given that seeking explanations is a pretty big part of Mafia, and something like "Explain yourself when you are comfortable doing so" or "Explain yourself, when it suits you" just sounds stupid. If you see something which warrants explanation, that usually means you think it is scummy, which itself would justify "Explain yourself, now"

It's just that I would expect DTM to say, 'Explain yourself, please,' rather than, 'Explain yourself, now.'

wow. this is weak.

FoS

Nikanor.

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You'll miss my short posts in time, EB. I'm trying to cut down on the words, but they have a way of sneaking out.

Noted.

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Vote to Save: IH

unvote
Vote to Save: IH

How do we know he isnt mafia though?

Unvote, Vote: Haylen

How do I know you aren't mafia?

Is this a serious vote?

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Aside from the cybersex thing with Haylen and Nikanor; that makes my head hurt

Hehe, it's only because you modding a newbie with us both in

Vollfksnvdkjngve - Why are you voting me? I think my comment was a valid one in the current situation. He be scum. And what you did looks like the Chainsaw defence. Attacking a player for attacking their scumbuddy.

agreed.

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When you said

Is it too early to assume that IH struck a nail with his posts on his scum targets? It seems weird that the poison was used already on IH.

It didn't seem as though you were trying to avoid debate. It looks more like you were hoping others would run with it. If you thought it was too early to post that thought, then why did you? What were you hoping would come from it?

noted.

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unvote
Vote to Save: IH

How do we know he isnt mafia though?

HOLY FUCK

You blew my mind

Why?

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@tubby-
Why did you unvote your lynch vote when you voted to save me?

Haylen and Seraphim also unvoted. Did you miss that, or just choose to focus on tubby?

As i was reading it, I thought you had to do that too. I was surprised when Vollkan, i think voted to save, and voted Haylen.

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you managed to imply I'm scummy and vote me without actually giving a specific reason,

I gave two.
*You were part of the "doggy-pile" on BloodCovenant (agreeing with Shanba here)
*You were running your mouth anxiously during the IH poisoning, which I would expect someone with more knowledge about it to do

disparaged a valid line of questioning (as one option would imply IH is town, and the near surety the poisoner wasn't town means speculation is unlikely to help scum),

Near surety?
Beyond that, if IH was poisoned by scum, who is this scum more likely to be?

proposed a line of questioning then immediately passed it off,

I'm presuming you mean that I called for an end to discussion with my vote?
I can see why you think that, but that's not the case.

and FINALLY managed to do so with an uncalled-for condescending tone.

It's the only tone I've got.

good stuff!

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EB, if the poisoner decided to poison somebody who was attacking BC, why would they choose IH? There were many people who expressed suspicion of him. If the poisoner's aim was really to protect BC, then killing IH would do a poor job of it. Or do you feel IH was the ringleader, and his death would destroy BC's wagon?

Hell no. Vollkan was the one that started the wagon on me.

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In other words, it may have just been meant as a distraction.

Damnit.

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i diddn't know the correct vote format, i thought we had to unvote our lynch vote to vote you, it was after that BM posted the correct format,

als my vote was an RVS vote on spryrex and i figured once this poisoning business happened

that we were securely out of the RVS.

I wanted to have a vote readily available to drop on someone who i felt deserve it

I don't like this post. Why mention that kind of crap. After your out of the RVS, it's kind of like some unspoken knowledge. you shouldn't have to say, "oh since we're out of the RVS, then i'll do this..."

I find it scummy.

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No, I thought you unvoted because you were confused about the game mechanics, which I was fine with. But now you are saying there is another reason, which doesn't make any sense to me.

This too.

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BC, stop spamming the thread with one-word replies. Put it all in one post.

Sorry, that was my impression of Zazie. I work on a really small keyboard, and i tend to accidentally delete things.

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oi sorry for the inactivity. Didn't notice game had started. Will read on and start talking.

Did this ever happen?

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Rereading the thread... I'm not digging the 4 deaths, and still day 1 thing....

will hopefully get a post up soon.

Note the V/la in my sig. I apologize. First time freshman is exciting... i guess.

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The majority of my questions were answered, and i didn't want to be ridiculed for "apparently not reading the whole thread."

I don't know how charter can say that Spyre is scum, after the debate between charter and RL on pate.. 16. Especially after this response by Spyre.

Vote: Randomlunatic

The hell?

Obviously RL is scum as well, but right now we're lynching Maryita. I got a message saying that she poisoned IH after he got saved. Obviously this was the work of scum, not town. ARE YOU ALL FREAKING HAPPY NOW? Since I spoke of this, I don't get this luxury again, but I figured it was worth it before idiots (RandomLunatic and ElectricBadger) spun this on me. OBVIOUSLY I HAD INFO ON WHO THE SCUM WAS. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO MAKES THREE POSTS IN THE GAME, ALL SAYING "LYNCH THIS PERSON" IS SCUM? NO, THEY AREN'T THAT OBVIOUS.

Randomlunatic and EB have earned themselves lynches after Maryita.

Lynch Please.

Interesting claim. Maryita, if you flip town, i garauntee charter's lynch tomorrow. well, and if you are town, you'd better have a damn good reason for poisoning him.

Unvote?
Vote:Maryita

--Just saw this post of Nik, sorry.
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If I've missed any other questions, would you mind pointing them out to me, i probably overlooked them at the time.

Ehhhh, something is off here. He seems a lot pushier in this game than in his others.
Unvote. Vote: DTMaster.
Lynch all Discrepancies.

I disagree with your theory.

Good for you.
May I ask why?

His play in this game matches his play in another. The game is not over, so I can't divulge many more details.

It's now OBVIOUS Maryita is scum, because she isn't calling me a liar or anything. No vote for me, doesn't even refute what I'm saying really.

I say we lynch EB straight away after Maryita.

Agreed. EB is voting you, even after your claim.

I might as well claim now. I'm a day roleblocker of sorts. I can change or completely cancel any abilities the person has. I have no control over whether it changes/cancels the ability, or how it changes it. I can change who I'm blocking at any point during the day. I blocked CKD to see if it would cancel out his 3 votes, but apparently it didn't because he still had 3 when he voted tubby. Then I switched it to Nikanor.

Bullshit. You can Roleblock more than one person per day? I'm calling

Shenanigans

on that one.

Shenanigans has been called.

The Rules of Shenanigans are now in play.
- The laws of gravity are no longer applicable.
- Yes is no, and no is yes.
- Miller Light is not actually low in calories.
- Penis.

About 5 minutes before charter decided I was scum.

and then immediately after, you role blocked Nikanor?

Second, my PM says I can change the block at anytime during the day, so that's how. If you want to tell the mod he's doing it wrong, go right ahead.

why didn't you mention that in your initial claim?

It's almost like I got my message at the same time, read it, then made my post in the thread. It all fits together so perfectly!

Except that she used her ability on CKD and you supposedly got your message TWO DAYS after the poisoning. The mod would have sent you a message directly after he posted the save scene if he was going to send a message at all. How does that fit together 'so perfectly'?

As I'm reading I hope to find the answer to this....

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EB coming up as scum almost reinforces Charters "claim."

This somewhat confuses me. What kind of role would give him this type of info.

Also, I'm about ready to vote the mod >,<

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Oh, yet another point in the mountain of evidence of Mariyta being scum. If she was town, EB would have jumped all over the opportunity to lynch her, then lynch me. There's boatloads of other evidence as well if you go digging.

Good work, I didn't notice that.

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ok, I dont like that fact that charter is refusing to answer my questions, the time and date of his mysterious PM is hardly him full claiming. I also think charter's list of scum is silly.

but as I am pretty sure Mari is lying..

vote Mariyta

Can we lynch this guy next? He's scum fence sitting. The only reason why he voted, was because he doesn't like being on your "silly list."

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The upsetting thing is I haven't lied once. I didn't poison IH, and I answered every question truthfully. "This is not the scum you are looking for." Oh well. Hammer away. Good luck.

so... you are scum though? Hammer already fell, I do believe.

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Dude, what you said in that post was how you think charter is basically extremely scummy for dodging questions, but granted, out of the two people he called scum, one did actually flip scum, and this one will most likely as well. But, what you did, was call charter suspicious, and also say that Mariyta is lying. Why? My best guess is to cover your ass incase she flips town. then you automatically are able to pursue charter. Also, if she flips scum, you can say, "Yea, I knew she was lying, GG charter! I knew i could count on you!"

Anyways, I find it suspicious, you should have voted Mari a long time ago, imho.

FoS: CKD

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how is that fence sitting?

I DO think charter is being scummy for avoiding my questions?

and I DO think that Mari is lying...if she flips town, then charter is lying...so EVERYONE should be going after him....

also, I wouldnt say that(GG charter), because I still dont know what alignment charter is....BC, do you know something I dont..how many anti-town groups do YOU think we have? interesting thought process there

-Basically, you gave yourself wiggle room for day 2.
-Fishing much?
-Speculating about the game set up is remotely scummy.

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lol, speculating about the amount of scum killing groups after all the deaths today is scummy?

trying to figure out why you assume I would think charter is town even if Mari flips scum is fishing? You are trying to put words in my mouth...AND IM the one who is scummy?

nice stretching.

Yep...next scum found here.

that is the biggest load of crap I have seen yet this game.

In past games, any speculation day one/two was extremely scummy. Regardless of kills. But you can speculate all you want, but I am not going to.

Call it a hunch.

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm just speculating about your actions.

also, I wouldnt say that(GG charter), because I still dont know what alignment charter is....

BC, do you know something I dont..

how many anti-town groups do YOU think we have? interesting thought process there

This is fishing in a sense that you are trying to get me to reveal something regarding my role PM.

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wait a minute what the fuck is going on?

Why is DT voting himself?

Why do people think it is good to quicklynch today?

I need questions of the first two only....

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Very well,

unvote:
Vote: SpyreX

Last time this worked very well.

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@Charter: Mari was scum, but no poisoner. You threatened that people would die "just like EB" when EB was in fact alive. He died later, though. Can you explain any of this? Are you going to expand on your claim today? Or ever?

I will not explain. Do not out yourself as scum by continuing asking either. Just know that it is in your best interest to lynch Spyrex ASAP.

I presume there is going to be some kill/poison/what not that spyre is going to do? If we don't lynch him fast enough?

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On my iPod here, got a post coming real shortly, i'm just going to class shortly, I should have it up in 2-3 hours. Around 1:30 est. Time. I'm not a big fan of spyre's analysis, there is something fishy about it IMHO.

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Super Town:
Vi
Tajo

Town:
Crazy

Maybe scum:
Yos
BC

Betting on NOT TOWN:
Kai

Scum:
Nikanor
DTM

I don't like this list of yours. Why? Because it agree's with the general consensus with the town. Most of the town thought that Nik and DTM were scum, based on their day 1 play. And where you say that your betting Kai is NOT TOWN, is retarded, especially if he claimed miller, because he's obviously not going to show up as town. Even if scum were to claim miller, they would flip scum. Very rarely

(i'm being presumptuous)

do claimed millers flip town.

-Crazy unvoted you, and resumed a case on DTM, How does that make him scummy? He also said that charters case on you is null, considering charters alignment. If you flip scum, i would lynch Crazy next.

-Kai claimed miller correct? So obviously, why would you say that you are betting on him not being town, when if in fact he is a miller, he shouldn't flip town. Unless BM did some bastard modding, like when Mastin thought he was going to be a death miller, when he wasnt. Also, where is mastin would have been fun to play with him again, i guess =/

where are you certain that Nik is scum? Same goes for DTM. You're just saying that stuff because charter I believe stated that, and others as well.

All in all, I'm keeping my vote on Spyre for the moment. And I didn't really like his claim. Just doesn't sit well with me. I mean, what the hell does Hide mean? Is it like roleblocking anyone that targets you?

Spyre, what would happen if you were incorrect?

Also, noted that the people you investigated were already dead before you claimed. <-- doesn't sit well with me.

But DTMaster is also very likely scum.

Why dont we let Spyrex to our lovely vig?

Also, why did you target Spyrex?

Not a voter. However, with the reactions (such as this) I'm putting tajo in my "super awesome town" category along with Vi. I wish there were more there.

why does that post put him as super awesome town? He still stated that he wanted you vig'd, meaning killed. Just because he didn't vote? or challenged Charter?

- How do Crazy's post confirm him as town? I don't see it.

Also, I have reason to believe that Kai actually was town/miller. Because the mafia were labeled in red font color, and the lyncher was blue. Wouldn't a Cult Leader/Recruiter be a different faction/color?
-Also, this is my first time playing with a cult leader, and the Wiki doesn't say much regarding it.

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EBWOP: POST 675:

Also, noted that

one of the people

you investigated was already dead before you claimed. <-- doesn't sit well with me.

since he could further prove his claim, and we can always lynch him later.

Can you explain this for me? Do you mean that he could go into greater detail into his claim? Or what? Sorry, it's a minuscule question, would just like a little clarification.

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-Crazy unvoted you, and resumed a case on DTM, How does that make him scummy? He also said that charters case on you is null, considering charters alignment. If you flip scum, i would lynch Crazy next.

Not me. Tajo. I resumed my vote on SpyreX before his claim, and Tajo was fighting against SpyreX's lynch before charter's death when there was no real reason to do so.

That was mostly directed towards Spyre, and sorry, yours didn't really answer my question.

Also, I have reason to believe that Kai actually was town/miller. Because the mafia were labeled in red font color, and the lyncher was blue. Wouldn't a Cult Leader/Recruiter be a different faction/color?

Kai's name is also red. I assume anti-town = red, pro-town = green, neutral = blue.[/quote] I'm not sure, I would still like to hear others opinions on this.

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Can you explain this for me? Do you mean that he could go into greater detail into his claim? Or what? Sorry, it's a minuscule question, would just like a little clarification.

Through his further night actions and results. Not saying that it will lead to anything, but if we think both SpyreX and DTM are scum, and SpyreX is a power role, and DTM is at best a vanilla townie, it's probably best to go at DTM for now.

Still confused at your use of language/diction.

So, after night actions/results, if we think that Spyre and DTM are scum, and Spyre is a power role, (Power role scum?) And DTM is at best a VT ( Like he said himself?).

Or... are you saying that they are either both scum,

OR

they are both town, Spyre being a power role, and DTM being a VT?

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I'm not sure, I would still like to hear others opinions on this.

His name is RED; I'd assume mafia before I'd assume town.

But isn't a Cult a completely different faction from mafia? What does he recruit them for to? Just the regular mafia team? I was under the impression that in games with a mafia team, and a cult recruiter/leader, there was 2-3 on the Mafia team, and one player on cult team, and he gained a new player each night.

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So, after night actions/results, if we think that Spyre and DTM are scum, and Spyre is a power role, (Power role scum?) And DTM is at best a VT ( Like he said himself?).

SpyreX is either a town power role or scum.
DTM is either a vanilla townie or scum.

They're both likely to be scum, but there's less risk involved with lynching DTM.

Ok, now I get it, thank you!

But isn't a Cult a completely different faction from mafia? What does he recruit them for to? Just the regular mafia team? I was under the impression that in games with a mafia team, and a cult recruiter/leader, there was 2-3 on the Mafia team, and one player on cult team, and he gained a new player each night.

Yes, cults and mafia are different factions. My assumption would be that the mod uses red for any anti-town factions. If that's not the case, we'd have to assume a false reveal, which seems like a silly thing to assume without any evidence.

Except that he claimed miller.


-Anyways, i'm off to more class, i should be back in an hour.

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Can you prod BC too?

BC was posting in another game of mine so he is either actively lurking through this game or failed to watch this thread. :<

I'm basically lurking. This game was going to, and still probably will take a long time to catch up in. While the other game, not as much. I'm going to dedicate most of the morning to attempt and catch up, you will get something today.

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Sorry, finally getting back to this.

Now this pile of awesome. Note: I'll say it now. If DTM is scum there's quite the high chance that BC is scum with him.

Why do you say this? Is it because I am pressuring you, and not him? Do you think that I wouldn't vote him?

But, into the fray.

1.) Show me this "general consensus". I was fairly sure about Vi day 1 AND hid there so thats easy. Tajo actually was weighing the case out instead of power-bandwagoning.

I was more-so talking about who you put as scum. Also, you didn't list everyone in the game, I believe.

2.) Millers, if actually millers, are still going to be Town Millers. I was saying (and shock and awe I was right) that he was lying about being a miller. Further, and we know I loves me some meta fights, show me this "rarely do claimed millers flip town." Because I'm pretty sure that is objectively false.

Apologies, I was mixing this with something that occurred in the last B-mod BM game that I was in. At the time that I wrote that, I was under the impression that millers flipped scum, to some correction, i realize that it is only death millers.

3.) I said Crazy was scummy? I'm pretty sure I said he was town.

I know, and I want to know how you got that

4.) We have a setup where daykills (which adjust the lynch number) have been present. I say "hold up I'll explain." Nik puts me at L-1 with a shady vote which NOT ONLY invites a power-hammer that is a great scum-push for the next day but could, in fact, be setup for a kill to shift the lynch to lynched.

5.) Wiki it. That one is fairly normal.

Ok, I guess I see that then. But still, several of us saw him scummy.

6.) I have no idea. I assumed, wrongly, that I was "right" and got my powers. That wasn't the case with volkan soo.. I'm betting that if I am totally "wrong" I either get nothing or somehow get screwed.

Don't like this response. You are either right, and you get powers, or if you are wrong, you get nothing or some how get screwed. What does that last part mean? Somehow get screwed? Like modkilled? Night killed? What? How do you get screwed?

7.) Yea DTM is totally dead now isn't he? Preview edit - I see you corrected this but seriously.

Decent, but wrong, justification for trying to lynch me is ok.
Weak justification is bad.
WRONG justification is scummy.

Calling it now. Scum with DTM.

You calling my justification/case bad doesn't make me believe you any more.

I don't get why you singled me out though.

Because you lost your vote at the same time the cult recruiter flipped.

Very interesting.

Explain now because we have scum here if you quick lynch me. You

shouldn't have a power from me

since I'm VT, not Mafia Goon. If I die now then you can confirm that Spyrex is wrong and lying.

This works vice versa, correct? Lynch Spyre now, find he really is what he says, then lynch you tomorrow.

@DTMaster, if your plan goes ahead, and both you and SpyreX are not lynched today with a view to you being alive day 3, who do you think is the next best lynch after SpyreX?

I don't agree with his plan. Why? Because if they are both scum, that means we need three days to lynch them. As opposed to two.

I have a better Idea to test Spyre's claim, But i'll hold off for now, and I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to divulge it just yet.

Take a step back.

I expect you to flip mafia. Maybe even mafia goon and watch is totally legit.

In the case that I am wrong and you are what you say

, then I have to assume Goon = Vanilla OR this role just flat out doesn't make sense OR I'm missing something entirely.

What I really don't like about this is, according to you, you will get a power up no matter how he flips. At least, that's what it looks like to me. It just feels like you're adding and adding to your claim.

I'll try again:

There you acknowledged the possibility of your power being fake because your investigation was wrong, yes?

Yes.

Because, I was "half" right. Not totally wrong. And I got something for it. From the PM I would assume I got

nothing

if I was totally wrong.

So, my getting

something

from DTM means either a.) I am right or b.) I am half right.

I don't think you can be right, or half right in these kind of situations. Only right, or wrong.

Crazy, when did DTMaster become "freaked Town" IYO?

It's more that SpyreX being scum makes DTM less likely to be scum.

How so?

I'd be surprised if either one was town. They're probably both scum.

I was thinking that they were unlikely to be scum together because DTM flipping Vanilla Townie would support SpyreX's claim, and it would also justify why SpyreX is posting all this "half-right; vanilla=goon" stuff.

I just realized that he would also be "half-right" if DTM was a scum power role, ugh. So it could be a bus, as well.

Wait... why the hell would Spyre scum group A, investigate DTM scum group A? (using groups in relative terms... i guess?)

This post makes me want to unvote and lynch DTM....
Mostly due to this post of BenMage

I'd rather lynch SpyreX first and only lynch DTM if SpyreX was town. (And just assume that Goon =/= Vanilla.)

The reasoning is that I'm almost positive that SpyreX is scum, but I'm leaning town for DTM.

what if they are both town? what does that tell you?

why do you think they are both town?

BC, why are you voting Spy?

Look at page 28 :/

Also because Charter got a guilty on him. <--- original reason.
And I do not like his claim at all. It just seems like a big clusterfuck that he keeps adding to.
Agreed. Why would scum spyre investigate team mate DTM scum?

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The whole way that he A) tried to fish for charter's role, B) tried to attack charter while he was attacking Mariyta, and C) Then later tried to discredit charter by accusing him of being a lyncher, all make him look bad.

A) charter was scummy.

I thought he was lying,

so I tried to get him to elaborate.
B) I assume by 'he,' you mean charter.

I attacked charter because I thought he was lying.

His even tried to take credit for EB's death, if I recall correctly. I also would like to think that if I were Mariyta's partner,

I wouldn't be stupid enough to chainsaw defend her with a

cop's

guilty on her.

C) I tried to discredit him by calling him just regular old scum as well. Does that count for anything?

Also, if I were Mariyta's scumbuddy, why would I push for SpyreX's lynch with 'paranoid cop is not paranoid,' when I could have went with the opposite position and pushed for an easy DTM lynch to semi-confirm my partner? /WIFOM

I need to reread a bit, but right now I think DTM is town, at least.

In regards to the bold, why did you think he was lying? We didn't realize it was a cop-like role until later, just an information role. So attacking wouldn't necessarily be like a chainsaw defense. Because he didn't really claim cop, there could have been reason to question it, but after the first lynch was correct, why didn't you immediately follow along with the second one? That's remotely scummy. Apologies, you did vote for Spyre, you were on the second half of the wagon.

Your post was 5 posts after Charters new claim, why didn't you believe him then?

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ITT, Yos2 is in tremendous denial for no obvious reason.

Regarding what? [/slightly confused]

Yos2, what do you think of the idea that SpyreX did not know who the other Mafiosi were?

But what if that is what the Night 0 was for? Spyre was allowed to chose, as soon as he did, he was given the list of other scum mates. That's one of the first things that I thought of when I saw the "Bookie" role was allowed to choose factions. I would presume that would happen.

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Yos2, what do you think of the idea that SpyreX did not know who the other Mafiosi were?

But what if that is what the Night 0 was for? Spyre was allowed to chose, as soon as he did, he was given the list of other scum mates. That's one of the first things that I thought of when I saw the "Bookie" role was allowed to choose factions. I would presume that would happen.

I think you're presuming incorrectly. SpyreX wouldn't be joining the scum - just betting they'd win.

I see where you're coming from. I just wonder if he would have been plain old third party, labeled Mafia Bookie, in blue font, and his win condition is scum victory. But I can see where you're coming from, but it almost feels like we're trying to out guess the mod by speculating how Spyres role was initially set up. But I can see what you're doing, and can honor it.

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I think you're presuming incorrectly. SpyreX wouldn't be joining the scum - just betting they'd win.

Well, I don't think that can be the case; when the game ended, his role was quite clearly listed as "mafia", and his color was red. Either he started the game as mafia,

or he joined the mafia team at some point;

and I think it's more likely he started the game as mafia.

Aside from being a cult recruit, How the hell is that possible? And yes, I'm pulling my newbie card once, for lack of experience in the department of "Roles."

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Nikanor - Mafia JailKeeper, Shot, Day 3

BM

Nice, that's a good role to get rid of.

List of players alive. I need to reread but as far as I remember I like BC, Yos, CKD, Vi, benmage and Cass.

Also, Tajo. What good have I done at all in this game? If I were to compare myself to this game, as I did in BM B-mod game 1, I would look a lot scummier in this game. In this game, I have lurked and fence sittted most of the game, because I was lazy, and didn't want to catch up. What good have I possibly done in this game? Also, in BM game 1, you were town correct, and you put a lot of heat on me for being scum, but I flipped town. Just, for some reason, this doesn't feel like your town meta in a B-mod game. You feel more conservative, and less reckless. Not sure that I like that.

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What does ITT stand for, I didn't see it on the wiki.

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Thanks, also. How do you ISO read someone, in a way that doesn't require looking for posts in all 40 pages.

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I am slightly confused at your claim Benmage.

Are you the dayvig, or are you accusing Yos2 as the dayvig?

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you the dayvig,

Everyone ought to bear patiently the results of his own conduct.

Why do you suspect Yos2?

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the end of this post is why I believe benmage
-EXCERPT-

This post makes me want to unvote and lynch DTM....
Mostly due to this post of BenMage

This was an older post of mine. It leads me to believe Benmage's claim as well.

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vote Yosarian2

Triple post of mine, w00t!

Ben, what about your wanting to lynch DTM? What changed?

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And Vi, can you grant me force lynch powers too? I promise to use them well for you. I must make up for the past

I didn't even get to forcelynch anyone in that game and the mod was almost literally pushing me into doing it >.>

Also, ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school.

Yea dude, I'm totally nominating Benmage for a scummy.

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reading Crazy in ISO at the moment, and within his ISO posts 18 through 29, he switches his vote from DTM to Spyre, back to DTM, Spyre, then DTM in the next post, and finally on ISO 38 he sticks to Spyre. Kinda odd if you ask me, switching around so many times :/ and on two occasions, he voted DTM or Spyre, he would switch votes on two consecutive posts. (but not the same day,)
-Noticed that he somewhat addressed it to Vi in ISO 45.
-Iso 46 Excerpt.

The reason I've been changing my vote is because I've constantly changed my mind. It's not that I don't care who gets lynched; on the contrary, it's that I do care.

DTM, at first I agreed with your thing about keeping SpyreX alive, since then I've grown to be almost certain that SpyreX is scum, that I think that keeping him alive on the very off-chance that he's town is pretty useless.

Also, DTM is further convincing me that he is town, mainly because he's trying to keep SpyreX alive.

-Oh Shit.
--How does that necessarily make him town?

Crazy, what do you think about Benmage?

That somehow he got a post restriction...?

What if ther e is an Anti-town opposite of yours Vi? One that takes away posting/playing abilities, or one that adds restrictions?

-DTM losing his vote
-Benmage's post restrictions
---Before this, I thought that if someone were to self-vote, they would lose their vote. It's an interesting idea, i might be persuaded to do so, if I were close to being lynched. Other than that, i'm not prepared to do so.

ISO - 64 -

Crazy and Vi, did you think at some point that dtmaster was scum? If so what made you change your mind about him?

I thought he was scum near the beginning of today, mainly for his reactions to the Mariyta-wagon.

However, I find it pro-town that he's against the SpyreX wagon. I don't agree with him, but I find that pro-town.

-Not sure if you answered this yet, hopefully I will see it soon. But I don't see how that's pro-town, at least considering the flip.



----Will hopefully do an ISO on Random tomorrow. (I Know I've said stuff like that before :X)

Unvote:

(Not sure if I even had a vote out there...)


Holding off of a vote for now. Will possible vote tomorrow.

@Mod, can we get a vote count soon? Not sure when the last one was.

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So far this game, I've attacked ElectricBadger, Mariyta, SpyreX, DTM, and Nik, and 4 of them are now confirmed scum. I think SpyreX would probably not have been lynched if I hadn't been attacking him. I'm actually pretty happy with my play this game, and I'm kind of surprised that I would be attacked, especally since you're close to confirmed town; you basically have to either be the vig or be a day-SK here, and

I doubt a day-SK would have a post restriction.

What do you think of my theory?

What if ther e is an Anti-town opposite of yours Vi? One that takes away posting/playing abilities, or one that adds restrictions?

-DTM losing his vote
-Benmage's post restrictions
---Before this, I thought that if someone were to self-vote, they would lose their vote. It's an interesting idea, i might be persuaded to do so, if I were close to being lynched. Other than that, i'm not prepared to do so.

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BloodCovenant, why are you casting

aspersions

on Benmage?

Where did you get that from? what post of mine?

In addition, can you point to a time when Benmage did NOT have a post restriction? That would significantly help your theory.

No, actually. I just noticed that he has had it since day 1. Possible that night zero he was given it. But I don't think there have been any restrictions on day three yet, have there been? Possible Role Block, or that was possibly what Spyre's role was.

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crap... might as well while i'm here

Random Lunatic....

His ISO posts...
-2-7 were bland, and really bad. Nothing that contributed to the game, Possible IIOA? ISO
-8 puts him with Geiff
-9 through 12 are really bad too.
-Wow, this post (13) is what I like to call Bullshit. You barely made an effort to get into the game.
-14,15 are bad too. Just not much content. Stupid little one liners.
-16 is meh, but not pro-town I would say.
-17-18 is meh as well, not pro-town, per-say.
-19 - Have you reread yet?
-You keep bringing up the Haylen drugging, in posts 17, 20 (seemed like a lot more in the read). But why so curious about others thoughts on Haylens drugging?
-21,22, more meh posting. 22 was leaning town.
-23 why did you vote Charter /facepalm
-24-27 you acknowledge that you think Charter is some sort of cop role, yet you never unvoted, well. in my eyes, it took you a long time to unvote.
-28 took you the influence of another player (shanba) to follow the cop. Why?
-28-30 are posts where you vote Mariyata.... >.>
-32, suggestion of mafia groups, each group having their own kill. I don't think the flavor supports this idea. (although I am not a flavor expert.)
-33,34 are somewhat townish posts.
-35 DTM's claim wasn't bizarre. It was at an odd time, just not bizarre.
- 36 - Excerpt

It's been said already,

but charters flip is surely a null tell on SpyreX?

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Are you asking if this is a null, or proclaiming it as one.
-37-42 It feels like you were leaning towards sacrificing DTM rather than lynching Spyre. It looked like you wanted DTM dead, before Spyre. Not really sure why. Possible answer would be great, although I know the answer has been tainted already.

All in all, I'm not really liking Random's play at all.

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I Guess my theory has been proven wrong. Fair enough.

I would still be interested too see if self voting causes loss of players vote.

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-Not sure if you answered this yet, hopefully I will see it soon. But I don't see how that's pro-town, at least considering the flip.

I was assuming that it was very unlikely that SpyreX and DTM were scum together, and thus I was debating the circumstance that DTM was scum and SpyreX was town.

But wouldn't that day make sense if they were both scum-scum? And quite obvious as to why DTM would want to keep spyre alive for another day.

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-Not sure if you answered this yet, hopefully I will see it soon. But I don't see how that's pro-town, at least considering the flip.

I was assuming that it was very unlikely that SpyreX and DTM were scum together, and thus I was debating the circumstance that DTM was scum and SpyreX was town.

But wouldn't that day make sense if they were both scum-scum? And quite obvious as to why DTM would want to keep spyre alive for another day.

But is SpyreX bussing DTM that likely? I don't think so. Especially when SpyreX was making up the whole half-right stuff i.e. Goon might = Vanilla, etc., that really seems like he was expecting DTM to flip vanilla townie.

He gave himself enough wiggle room that either way he flipped, be it VT, or Goon he would of had an excuse. I bet if we had lynched DTM and he flipped goon, we would have probably thought Spyre as town. Not sure, it's all WIFOM, and "What if" scenarios.

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We need MOAR activity. And a vote count please.

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[quote="DTMaster"
BC 1135: Actually a long time ago did you play around with the idea that Battle Mage could be voted? I don't remember you doing that, but I doubt he would be a player himself. :p
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where did you get that idea from my post in 1135? Yea, i think I mentioned it, somewhere around the time when there were four dead bodies on day 1.

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Vote: RandomLunatic

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Unvote:

Should have previewed. Would have seen that. I don't want any one to hammer, I want Tajo to test his claim.

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Sajin has posted 7 times in this game. The first three were on his first day, nothing much really. Slight rolefishing on his third post. His fourth was three days after that. He still didn't vote.

His fourth post was a vote on Nikanor. I feel as if he just jumped on the Nikanor wagon.
His fifth post was a vote on Yos, based on someone else I believe suggesting that Yos is a cult member.
His sixth post was a vote for Random lunatic. He gives no reason whatsoever.... Then he lists two pro-town players.

Sorry... I just don't find this behavior of yours to be pro-town Sajin.

Vote: Sajin

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I replaced in quite recently BC. I cannot defend against a post count argument.

You replaced in over a week ago. And only accumulated 7 posts. Notice that I'm not accusing you of lurking, or attacking you for a low post count. It's your content. You have given little to no analysis, and you have voted mainly bandwagons, with the exception of Yos. You have not had a single vote with any of

your own

evidence to back it up. Your week reason to vote Nikanor ("he didn't act like this when he was town") doesn't really help much. you didn't give any meta to support your argument. Basically, I don't find you to be pro-town. Prove me wrong.

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Alright we can go with randomlunatic.

unvote; vote: Randomlunatic

Benmage and Vi are very likely town. Tajo if you wish to end the day to prove yourself thats fine.

Hands of Suspicion : Sajin

Regarding this post.

^^Should have been attached to my other posts.

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PopTaj, what do you think of Sajin's play so far?

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Et tu, Brute?

I've been waiting for that quote Benmage, GG!!

BC, what makes random any better than Sajin?

I think

now

I would rather lynch Sajin. Notice I had an iso read on Random, and he has been scummy. Hasn't been contributing, posted a lot of crap, and not much at all concerning the game. But I guess, I

could

see him as VT just bored and depressed for not having an important role in this game. I know that happened to me in Emerald City Mafia. Although I asked for a replacement.

I had an analysis of Sajin though, shortly after I saw him bandwagon hop to Random Lunatic. As soon as I call him out for that, he blames it on replacing in, and he accuses me of attacking his low number of post counts. Notice he didn't defend against me accusing him of bandwagon hoping, and following the crowd.

Alright we can go with

randomlunatic.

unvote; vote: Randomlunatic

Notice his diction.

"Alright we can go with,"

it feels like he doesn't care who the lynch is. It almost seems like it's a careless vote that just wants a lynch. I can't quite put my finger on it, I just don't like this post of his.

But anyways, after my analysis of Sajin, I personally think he would be a better lynch.

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Notice I had an iso read on Random, and he has been scummy. Hasn't been contributing, posted a lot of crap, and not much at all concerning the game. But I guess, I

could

see him as VT just bored and depressed for not having an important role in this game.

There is no darkness but ignorance.

You could be right there.

I think

now

I would rather lynch Sajin.

Let us from point to point this story know,

His ISO posts...

Does this not satisfy?

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I'll do an ISO of Yos2 tomorrow, Tonight is pretty much filled up.

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I don't think that will be necessary.

Why is it unnecessary?

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So what kind of scum do you think I am?

Mafia? I voted a mafia today. Early too with meta reason.

Cult recruit? Perhaps, but that makes little sense since kairyuu would of recruited a lurker in my predecessor. That seems suboptimal.

I volunteered for Vi's ability. Since he claimed that it only works on town, its basically like me saying "investigate me".

I think that you are regular Mafia, not a cult recruit.

Wow, just because you voted for mafia, doesn't automatically make you town.

Volunteering to be powered up by Vi is almost retarded, and i consider to be anti-town. Why, because the likely hood of Vi being Night killed has highly increased by his claim, if he were to die tonight, and you say that you gained a power up from him, there is no way to theoretically prove that power up given. Since Vi might not be around to tell who he truly investigated.

If you truly are town, asking for Vi to target you with his power, gives scum two possible targets, made easy. And in all honesty, I bet they would NK you, if Vi was truly was going to target you, and did, and everyone in this game knew it, you would likely be the scums prime Night Kill choice.

If you wish to vig me fine. Or lynch me fine.

I am just trying to make the days move faster by voting with the most likely town people I see.

Benmage, I told you I would give you my vote. If you wish me to self vote I will.

Heck I can even test that stupid theory of a townsperson voting themselves loses a vote.

Regarding italics - Could also be scum lurking and only voting with the wagons. That's all WIFOMy, and an incredibly hard argument to back up, and attack.

Regarding bolded - Do it then, If you really think my theory is stupid.

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Why is it unnecessary?

What would an isolated read of Yos2 do for anyone other than make it a little longer for people to scroll to the next post?

I disagree, the likely hood of me voting Vi, based on the theory of a cult recruit is slim, because I've had a slightly leaning town read from him.

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@BC I told benmage I would give him my vote. Not you. Nope, your just pushing my case because you cannot push any ones else's as I see it.

1 -Benmage also voted you at one point, are you going to self vote now?
2 -I attacked you for your content, you twist what I said into me attacking you for your low post count. That was wrong, then you finally come back to say that

you just want the day to get on with fast, by voting the leading wagon.

Does anyone else find that scummy?
3 -Just because you voted for scum today Sajin, does not make you obv town. You should know this by now.
4 -Why are you so blindly following Benmage? Even if he is indeed town, and did Dayvig three scum, then great, but now, there are less scum, and statistics show that the likely hood of him hitting scum again, with his vote, and his vig, is less likely. You following blindly, can muddy the waters. I have not seen a single case of your own presented towards any of the players you voted. That's why I believe you are following blindly.

Nope, your just pushing my case because you cannot push any ones else's as I see it.

-This has got to be some fallacy of some sorts. I just don't know which one.
-I did Iso reads of RandomLunatic, You, and a little of Crazy. I have a null/slight scum read on random, null leaning town on Crazy, and a higher scummy feeling from you Sajin. I could push cases on either of the other two If I wanted. However, since my feelings of you being scummier than RL, obviously I'd rather push for your lynch.


--Also what I noticed Sajin, when I first attacked you, and gave my analysis on you, and pointed out why I thought you were scum, you didn't address any of my points, why? All you did was blame it on replacing in.

Let 's talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs.

unvote

Yet I should kill thee with much cherishing.

Ben, what of Sajin's responses made you unvote? and make you believe that he is town?

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Tajo would you perfer a random lynch or a Yos lynch? I would prefer getting a replacement and lynching yos personally.

Excuse me?

Why, exactally, would you want to "lynch Yos"?

Read my case on him >.>

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@Yos
You're worried that the lynch is going your way. Who is(are) your preferred lynches? Just to be clear here.

I'm not really worried, since there's absolutly no case on me at all, so I highly doubt I am going to get lynched. I'm a little more worried Ben might kill me tommorow, but nothing I can do about that.

As for why my prefered lynch is, it's still Ranomlunitic, he's quite likely mafia.

For the record, all cases that start with "omg, you are scum because you are worried on being lynched" are senseless crap.

Of course you dont want to be lynched in a game, regardless of alignment.

Tajo, will you do me a personal favor? Read over Sajin's play and give me your thoughts.

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I am actually getting extremely frustrated with this game. I have a case on Sajin, one that I think is better than Random Lunatic, I've asked a few of you (other players) to give me reads on Sajin, or at least read my case. (No one has done so, since my first time asking Tajo what his thoughts were. Yes, that was three days ago, and it frustrates me.) Why? Because every time I have questions for Sajin, or analysis, he just feeds me crap that is irrelevant to the questions that I have for him. Point in case, My more recent questions. Only to be answered by this! The least that he is doing is dodging questions, aside from making me angry. If I don't get adequate answers back from Sajin (Which I have almost given up on), or any other players give their thoughts, then I'm going to have to ask to be replaced, or Mod killed. Why? because I'm too frustrated to play this game right now.

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What questions have I dodged BC?

you missed nearly all of this post!
you didn't address numbers 1, 2, 3 (more of a statement), 4 (also statements), And you didn't address my last point against you, written after the -- marks.

In that post I have no unanswered questions asked by you. Am I going to self vote- no, already answered. Why am I following Benmage- because I think he is obv town. Care to explain why your forcing a non case and misrepresenting?

You yourself said that the reads you got off me could indicate non scum in your original attacks on me.

Why do you no longer find that the case?

Also- Why are you insistent on NOT following the leads of the most likely town people?

-I think my case on you is more valid than my case on Crazy or Random.
-Bolded. You're misrepresenting me here, I said...

Sorry... I just don't find this behavior of yours to be pro-town Sajin.

In post 1169. Not that you are likely town.

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Also- Why are you insistent on NOT following the leads of the most likely town people?

Is this directed towards me?
I don't like following blindly. Why? because I like to have my own reason to vote someone, not because their the most likely to be lynched. Something I learned in my first game, Always vote with your own reasons, otherwise it looks opportunistic (which I feel that most, if not all of your votes have been). Aside from that, I am not in insistent on NOT following their leads. Notice I did vote RL, only after I did an analysis.

----Will hopefully do an ISO on Random tomorrow. (I Know I've said stuff like that before :X)

Unvote:

(Not sure if I even had a vote out there...)

Before I voted, I wanted to make sure it was on a player that I found scummy. If you didn't notice, I was extremely inactive for almost all of Day one, and the majority of Day 2. That's why I needed an ISO read on the player likely to be lynched. After my Iso, I found him scummy, therefore I voted him. Then I saw you vote him, and I obviously had a change in direction for whom I thought scummy.

Regardless of what player is obv-town, I will not follow blindly to voting with them, and I suggest you do not as well. If you find me scummier than RL, then vote me.

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Always vote with your own reasons, otherwise it looks opportunistic

Why so worried about appearances?
And Sajin with the vote on random but wanting to lynch Yos... what's up with that?? I will take a good look into both of them after random flips.

That was more of comment towards Sajin. In several games that I have played, scum tend to vote opportunistically. They tend to vote on bandwagons in the RVS, are usually on day one mislynches. It's not the general rule of thumb, but in a lot of games, I have seem scum be the 3rd or 4th vote on a wagon. Obviously it's not always the case, and yes I know scum can be anywhere on a wagon. Also, we can't really tell how opportunistic some votes were until after lynch analysis and such.

Me, I'm not worried about appearances when I play town. When I am scum, however I most certainly am. What I said there, was mostly something that I look for in games, for people to pressure.

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@BC- Also you said that the signs could be pointing to town. You indeed said that you read it as scum. But saying that what I said was not referencing what you actually said correctly is ludicrous. You said it could be a sign of either in that very post you previously linked. True or false? If true, I want an apology.

Show me where I said that. I couldn't find it.

BC you have not answered my question- Why would you not follow someone you thought was town?

I most certainly did answer your question. In fact it was before you even asking me again. It's right here.

This game ceased to be fun to me. Your attacking me for lack of content when I have been in the game for only a few pages. If you really wanted content this slot should of been replaced 30 pages before it actually was.

Please note, with that initial attack, I still didn't vote you solely on having no content, it was also no analysis with your votes. you voted on recent pages, which makes me feel as if you didn't read the whole game, also reinforcing the explanation for you giving no analysis. here,is mainly why I believe this. No one else but you determines what kind of content you bring to the game, unless you have a post restriction. When you replaced into this game, I had hoped for some analysis of some sort, not you jumping on the band wagons. Even if your previous character had posted regularly, and then you come into the game the same way you came into this one, i probably would have attacked you as well.

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we just want a claim poro....

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IH isn't dead.

I would go with Charters death.

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I thought ben claimed to have killed Geiff day 1?

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Gieff did die post psudo-tubby lynch, so it would be considered day 1 still (i doubt abilities reset from fake lynching). Therefore we have unexplained day kills from Volkan and Haylen

Good Point. I have no idea :/

I doubt the mod would reset the day powers.

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Oh and obviously charter too. :<

I think that charters death was obviously by scum. Therefore, that's the one that I would like Poro to... investigate, or whatever he's going to do.

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I'd say tubby for weirdness, Charter if your power needs the killer to be scum to be useful.

Why do you suggest Tubby >.>

Tubby died because the Mod messed up. That's all.

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@Yos
Death miller theory? :<. That would be very bastardly.

I think I said something like that 20 pages ago >.>

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Since this isn't a Tarhalindur game, I fully expect that any past bastardliness can be rectified by lynching present scum.

I share the Town Win Condition.
Continue.

wtf? Are we doing a mass claim or something?

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I'm pro-town.

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I win with the town, and I do not have any other win condition.

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So chaz, who do you plan on investigating with this?

I thought I was investigating someone randomly, thats why you were all saying it. If you only want one person then you (or I) should decide now but make that clear asap.

I am having a hellish week at uni and whilst the worst is over (and the fact that I was typing mafiasum into the computer...) I might not have the 100% access I expected to have

If you want my opinion, I would like you to investigate Sajin. But that's just me.

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Lie Detector. Can look at one line of any post, including mods. Judging by my feelings of the deaths so far, was looking to see essentially what yos said. It seemed the best way to do it. If you can think of a better idea, willing to listen.

Is your action a night or day action?

when I looked in wiki, it said that role is usually a night action. I'm just curious. thats all.

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@mod, may we please have a vote count soon. Thanks!

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Ok I know who Id go for if your going to let me see the day out? I will tell you guys if you want.

Chaz is stalling (again); lynch plz

tajo, would you mind using your ability the day

before

deadline so there's no confusion as to whether you did it?

Have you ever thought that his ability is a night action, and not a day action?

Unvote:
Vote: DTMaster

I don't mean to be a dick, but I want you opinion on this.

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so what happens tomorrow when Poro says I checked out such and such..and they were telling the truth?..and the day after that? and the day after that?

I am not buying this claim.

Fine. Whatever.

unvote, Vote: Sajin

I don't think this is the best way to go about this.

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Crap... ^ my alt account. Sorry.

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@BC
What was the point of your vote on me/attack when you could have did a quick reread about Tajo's power claim and confirmed the details between Vi, Tajo and CKD. It was a weak argument to begin with and reads as: a distraction to me.

I was acting irrationally. You had two votes, Poro had three. If I tied the votes, then it would be a no lynch. I was being stubborn. I thought that lynching Poro based on the fact that he had a night action, and not letting him prove it, was a bad reason to vote him.

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Ah I mixed things up. I thought you were talking about Tajo, not Poro's ability. :<

It dealt with tajo's ability. so i don't really think you mixed anything up.

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I am still waiting for BC to answer my questions.

Please, point out a question for me. I couldn't find any that I didn't answer.

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 14#1890814

I wish you would be more specific, because all of the questions in that post of yours, I feel as if I have answered.

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Well I assume I am dead. I am just going to flip vanilla.


Previously confirmed townies are USELESS because of cult. This is why the best option was to use Vi to confirm me like I asked. This would of worked on me.

Yossiran and CKD for cult.

DTmaster for last mafia.

And it is incredibly hypocritical to not answer my questions. You STILL have not answered BC.

You say this, but you never were specific. That would have helped.

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I'm obviously speculating here. But in BM bastard Mod game 1, there were three cop type roles. do you think we could have more than 1 doctor?

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I'm obviously speculating here. But in BM bastard Mod game 1, there were three cop type roles. do you think we could have more than 1 doctor?

*Claim
*Stop speculating (aloud, at least)

^^pick one

I'll claim if you really want. I'm a 1 shot NK immune Vanilla townie. And I did some research. There was only 1 doc in B-mod game 1. I wonder if we have an over dose of doc's this game, and maybe only 1 cop. Another obvious speculation. I almost claimed yesterday, in hopes that you would believe me and give me an ability. That way, the town for sure would get it. But I felt that would be extremely bad after I called Sajin out for doing that.

But, Since there were not any night kills on night 2, I was obviously curious, could the mafia/cult have targeted me. And yet again, I asked that question at the start of this day. No, i couldn't have been targeted twice. So either there is another doc out there, or there is only cult with no ability to NK. That's just my thoughts.

What I haven't done yet, is see who had much beef with me, per-say. I haven't found anyone that would have wanted me gone, mostly because I haven't looked. That would be a newb scum mistake to do thought (something that happened in a newbie game I was in.)

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However, scum keeping me alive would be good play for them, since I was the biggest contributor to his lynch.

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wtf is this?

I feel it was about time I claimed anyways.

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Wait, a mafia member that can only roleblock? How does that make sense? Correct me if I'm wrong - aren't all members of the mafia supposed to be able to kill?

your wrong.

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Unvote:
Vote: Porochaz

Sorry mae, I've just seen it in other games, and lets leave it at that.

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K. I'm the cop. Results are useless, but

I know that I'm either naive or sane.

Which means

I only have one result, of Vi

on early early D3. Before she claimed I think, I don't recall this very well. Which is why I said that I didn't want to claim yesterday. I wanted to be useful, for once. >.<

I can also investigate somebody today. Suggestions?

Yes, I work at day.

how does Bold 1, guarantee bold 2? wouldn't you have more than 1 result?

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oh oh oh, ok. I see it. who are the other players you investigated. Because if you are sane, then that could certainly help us.

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I'm going to self vote, very shortly. Unless anyone has any objections.

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what? regarding whether or not self voting takes away our right to vote?

I don't think the mod would give out that information.

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what? regarding whether or not self voting takes away our right to vote?

I don't think the mod would give out that information.

I have no idea what you're responding to...
The only reason you would have to self-vote at this point is to acknowledge your faction's loss.

No, I was making reference to losing an ability to vote. I really want to test that out :/

Because that's the only reason I see that (off hand) DTM would have lost his vote.

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At the moment, I wary of Cass, and Crazy. I don't think either of them have claimed yet. Refresh me if they have.

Unvote:
Vote: Cass

what have you done that has been pro-town, even in your eyes.

( I just don't remember you contributing much at all. )

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balls.

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Pop Taj, you forgot that Vi targeted CKD night 0, so that leaves Cass, Crazy, and I as Cultist options. I would prefer to lynch Crazy or Cass. Obviously I don't want to get lynched, however Cass hasn't done anything this game, so it would be a lurker lynch.

Happy with my vote on Cass.

Her ISO 1 is IIoA.

Yea, Cass is scummy. She voted Spyre, said he was so scummy, then changed her vote to the DTM lynch, and demanded that he was lynched instead of Spyre. But when it came time to hammer, Cass acted all innocent with the hammer.

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Okay, then. And yeah, I think I can buy Maemuki as likely town. But it doesn't really matter.

So I suppose:

-Benmage kills Cass.
-If Cass isn't scum, then we lynch BC.
-If BC isn't scum, then Vi gives a bonus to either Maemuki or Benmage. Then we lynch/kill accordingly.

and where do you fit into this equation?

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wait, what am I missing that you can believe Mae as town when we have two day cop claims?

However, one is sane, the other is naive. This would fit into BM's meta for modding B-mod games. I think I mentioned this before, but we had three cop roles in the last game.

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hmm... yea, I see that now.

However, I think that Cass is a good player to shoot.

Also, if I am going to be the lynch for today, let me vote myself, not out of anger or anything, I just want to see if it takes away my voting rights. That's all :/

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also, just a thought...how do you know Benmage is a vig and not a SK?

I was actually starting to wonder that too. Have you (or anyone) ever played with a day SK?

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ITT,

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we're waiting for Ben

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I PM'd BM regarding something other than Mafiaso the other day, and I have not received anything yet. I wonder if it would be ok to user prod?

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Unvote:
Vote: Battle Mage

Why not give it a shot.

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Is there any precedence for this in Battle Mage's games?

In any event, it's better than a traditional No Lynch.

Unvote: No Lynch
Vote: Battle Mage

(L-3)

No, but I think I recall him mentioning something regarding this topic in an old thread somewhere. And it is very bastardly moddish.

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Note: Check your PM's, what is your win condition?

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Note: Check your PM's, what is your win condition?

I want to know everyone's win condition.

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seven freaking scum.

@Mod, why did Crazy get lynched?

Benmage for SK? That would put us in a very sticky situation. It would be extremely hard for himself to defend himself, and maybe that's why BM gave him that post restriction? Blast.... I have no idea.

Is it, CKD and I are the only unconfirmed town? Damn.

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With a quick flurry of abuse, a majority of the remaining candidates descended upon their interviewer, obviously unaware that attacking the man in charge is unlikely to reap rewards. Contrary to his belief, Crazy discovered it COULD hurt,

as he got beaten to a steaming pulp by the Mod.

He thought the Mod had been scum.Turns out, he was a saint.

Crazy - Vanilla Townie, Beaten to death, Day 5

He was beaten by the mod... Maybe I should change my question to, why did you kill

him

?

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I thought Vi was confirmed,
PopTajo is a cop.
Mae is a cop -naive or something
DTM -because Vi targeted him.

Benmage could be SK, or just a day vig. I'm kinda worried about him.
You were confirmed town, until there was a cult recruit flip.

Me, i'm one shot nk immune town. :S

I dunno :X

Poptaj, results?

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@BC
BM was a super saint. Crazy hammered so he got killed.

I think that's BS. Unless BM was planning that from the get go, i call shenanigans.

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Note: Check your PM's, what is your win condition?

I want to know everyone's win condition.

I'd still like this to be answered :/

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Note: Check your PM's, what is your win condition?

I want to know everyone's win condition.

I'd still like this to be answered :/

this is an interesting question, considering we are looking for a cult right?

although I think I know where you are going with it.

but wait.... you're going to comment on it? but not answer it?

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Damn... i wish Benmage could answer this!

Well, seeing as i'm unconfirmed does that mean I'm next?

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If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly: if the assassination
Could trammel up the consequence, and catch
With his surcease success; that but this blow
Might be the be-all and the end-all here,
But here, upon this bank and shoal of time,
We'd jump the life to come. But in these cases
We still have judgment here; that we but teach
Bloody instructions, which being taught, return

To plague the inventor

: this even-handed justice
Commends the ingredients of our poisoned chalice
To our own lips.

unvote vote Battle Mage

Remember... we already tried that.

Here~

I win when all enemies of the town are eliminated.

@BC
Did you answer your own question yourself? I'm curious to why you want to know the win conditions because mine has odd syntax.

I'm VT and I'm hunting down people who trying to break "the system." I assumed I'm just hunting down scum.

The reason why I asked, is because I was not given a win condition. Which is why I suggested voting the mod, obviously it didn't work.

Anyways... Benmage i think is a very good lynch, considering his quick kill of Mae...

Let me know when I can hammer.

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Benmage is at L-1, I thought it was interesting that he OMGUS'd Vi...

I wish i could ask why

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You're not dead yet...?

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what are you...?

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I don't know who else could be scum

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Then it's BC

If the game doesnt end there, then Ill agree with you.

I doubt it, though. I have a very strong town read from him.

Or you could investigate me :/

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I think a no lynch could be appropriate.

Tonight, Vi, you target who you need to.

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One thing that I feel I should mention before I no lynch.

I played a game once, Kubrick Mafia.

Where I was The cop, but I didn't get cop powers until Scum investigated me to find out if i really was spartacus. Then, in the game we stomped them.

But, that's just something I wanted to put out.

Vote: No Lynch.

I think BM was even there when I suggested a a 100 day game :/ Wonder if that's what he's looking for...??? Nah....

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I played a game once, Kubrick Mafia.

Where I was The cop, but I didn't get cop powers until Scum investigated me to find out if i really was spartacus. Then, in the game we stomped them.

But, that's just something I wanted to put out.

*glare*

why the glare? o_o

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Admission of annoyance... from scum? o-o

what is it with you?

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There isn't anything left to do. The only thing that could break this is if both CKD and Vi are scum together some how and some way.

Scum together*
-then we would have already lost.

Cult V Scum**
-Bad... Just bad... Then we're in lylo, and have to lynch either scum. And that doesn't even really make sense, since there have been no night kills for the past.... 3 nights?

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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

'nuff said.

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Oh, can we get role PM's? Curious as to what a lot of the people did.

Yea, I wanna know if I was targeted 0_0!

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Wait... was i the only one without a win condition?

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N6 - BloodCovenant - kingmaker

-Sigg'd

this game was hella fun ty bm and hit me up if you mod another

Ditto! Another Pre-/in for me

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@Tajo
There wasn't one, that's the full PM.

I'm scummy cause I was. Lol I was part of the win wagon here :p.

haha, yea, i'm almost shocked you made it to endgame

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This was a good game, we need more post-game discussion!

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Precisely!!!

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I pm'd BM a day or two ago.

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WE DEMAND RELEASE

BLOOD FOR SETUP

I will not succumb to dying for this game. 0_0

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Vote: Benmage

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Lol. My role was simple.

1 shot NK Vanilla.

Now everyone else GO!

And list night actions too!

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With the screwball, you should have implemented Cult member instead of cult recruiter.


And damn, this really is a bastardly modded game.