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[Raivann]

Vote:Datadanne

I like wagons. Llama seems pretty confident in this being a good wagon so what the hell.

[Raivann]

Maybe if Llama gets Data lynched day 1 he wins or something.

unvote

[Raivann]

Also, notice the use of exclamation marks (!!) in each of his posts.

I can easily see him being mafia.
First he acted surprised that 3 people died. I mean sure, I bet everyone was sort of like 'WTF', but you do not need to post the obvious.

Ok...but i felt like it.

Making 1st post was actually kinda awkward for me lol.

Isn't random voting...the thing we do at start of each game?

And posting the obv is what I do. I could stop, but dont feel any real need to. I have other playstyle issues I need to fix.

Why the lol?
What do you mean 'bullish' ? bullshit?

[Raivann]

Maybe if Llama gets Data lynched day 1 he wins or something.

unvote

doesn't sure that Data can be lynched quick enough?

Wut? I'm doesn't quite sure what your question is about here.

[Raivann]

Yeah, his post is about as scummy as it gets

Vote: Tjoe Min Ja

[Raivann]

Tjoe-wagon: Meh, I personally am not getting much scumfeeling from him, and I don't believe his post was that bad. Added that to Jordan's little embellishment down the bottom of his post, I don't believe it's worthy of a vote.

My first game as scum I tried to cast suspicion on players by accusing them of wanting a quicklynch.
Actually I do want a quicklynch of Tjoe.

[Raivann]

My first game as scum I tried to cast suspicion on players by accusing them of wanting a quicklynch.
Actually I do want a quicklynch of Tjoe.

Lynch? Understandable, at least from my point of view. But why quick?

1. I think he's scum
2. This game could use some quickness
3. It will help Muffin keep track of players.

[Raivann]

zzz... see what I'm saying CC?
I also support Jordan lynch, BTW.

[Raivann]

Malcolm you just got pwned.

[Raivann]

Unvote, Vote:Jordan

I'll take Faraday's word on Tjoe as Ive never played with him before.

[Raivann]

Unvote, Vote:Jordan

I'll take Faraday's word on Tjoe as Ive never played with him before.

Why Jordan? Why take his word? Why does random=town?

I picked Jordan because we should lynch him. I agree that we have good chance of hitting scum with either Jordan or Mufasa
Do you support Jordan lynch? Let's agree on one and lynch 'em.

You also said that you were getting newbie not scummy vibes from Tjoe, so I reevaluated my vote for todays lynch. Jordan is the better candidate. I would hammer Mufasa if needed though.

I don't know why random=town.

[Raivann]

On what grounds are you calling Jordan a better lynch then Mufasa? When you start backing one player over another, but you word a post in a way that allows you to seemlessly move to the other wagon of "one scum one town", thats some major indecisiveness right there. So the question here is why.

So that makes TMJ town and not scum because.... ?

I meant that Jordan is better lynch than Tjoe.
I picked Jordan over Mufasa because I think he has been a tad bit scummier.
Tjoe could be scum, IDK.He can wait.
Do you support a Jordan lynch?

[Raivann]

To answer your question as to why I put my vote on Jordan in the first place

because Josh Lymans replacement did a better job at scumhunting than he was doing in rvs, so I jumped on the jordan wagon.

I jumped off the jordan wagon when it was diminishing not when it was picking up speed..

But looking at the game, all i get from you is making up rancorous theories and that doesnt help our scumhunting.

vote : Llamafluff

Here's Ray's posts so far...

sh*t, I completely forgot I was /in to replace still

Hi everybody... I'm the guy replacing John Lyman.

unvote

until I finish reading... this will take a while due to the number of posts I need to make elsewhere.

See yah when I get back!

Hey all, I'm really busy with all my games and stuff. >.> I think I replaced into a couple too many. I'll get to a post sometime tomorrow, J-time, I promise. As it is, I'm not letting myself be replaced in any game I'm in >.<

Yeah, sorry.

I'm still alive, and I've found an intermission in the needing to post in other games... will finish reading this game and get back to yah...

also, nice to see yah again, LF

Obligatory PLEASE DON'T PROD ME MOD post. I'll get to this sometime when I get home.

same except I'll get to this sometime I feel like it today >.>"

*goes off to make a specific point in time to do a post here*

*comes back*

I'll make it at 5 PM, Japan time. well, read then make it... won't be done at that time... I'll be starting

@Mufasa- So where exactly is Ray's better job at scumhunting?
All I see is Ray saying he is gonna post something sometime.

[Raivann]

The even funnier part is that I was doing a re-read looking for Jordan/Llama connection and was thinking , yeah I'd much rather lynch Jordan for the info that would be gained like X was saying, then I stumbled across that gem..ha!

[Raivann]

^The funny part of that post is he quoted Raiv trying to get people to wagon Jordan instead of Mufasa

? which part?

Basically the entire thing, look where his vote is and who was being discussed. He was attempting to make an opinion change that ends up with the eventuallity of a Jordan vote.

Actually I was quoting Mufasa not Jordan, I think you might be a little confused Llama.

[Raivann]

The funniest thing is none of you are bothered by the fact I haven't posted much. >.>

Come on guys, don't ignore me! Anyway, I had some work to do yesterday, unfortunately, so yeah... >.>" I'll definitely get back you all... just haven't been in the right mood (somehow, a typhoon waking me up at 6 AM put me in the mood to do so...)

Almost seems like you have some kind of post restriction where you have to keep saying that.

[Raivann]

What was the intent of the post then?

To have question answered and to point out inconsistencies.
I don't like your response to my post.

Actually I was quoting Mufasa not Jordan, I think you might be a little confused Llama.

And a little scummy to boot.
You started the Mufasa wagon(which I agree with) and took heat off Jordan.
I make an inciminating post against Mufasa and you seem to think I'm posting it to help him...huh?

FoS:Llama

[Raivann]

So what is your opinion on Mufasa/Jordan in respect to each other?

Where is Jordan ?
His recent lurking is even more suspicious considering these posts from him early on...

no i just have too much time on my hands...

And posting the obv is what I do. I could stop, but dont feel any real need to. I have other playstyle issues I need to fix.

I think we could use some more info...

@Jordan- Any thoughts on Mufasa wagon ?

@Mufasa- What do you make of Llama's response to my post ?

[Raivann]

My meta of Jordan is fairly strong when it comes to the RVS and him. I don't think he is a good wagon.

Does your meta of Jordan have him lurk when he gets a couple votes ?

[Raivann]

Mufasa you should claim before you get the Hammah!

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[Raivann]

Is mufasa always like this?

If no, I will vote him. If yes, then i see no reason why we aren't lynching Jordan/replacement part with plans to pressure Llama tomorrow.

Totally.

[Raivann]

oh....I assume you have play a game with mufasa then.

Oh no, I meant totally we should lynch Jordan.

[Raivann]

I got an idea- how bout we lynch cateraction?

[Raivann]

Raivann - flip-flopping, wagon hopping, and useless speculation. Most likely scum.

Yeah right, You're just saying that because I'm pushing for your lynch.

Moar casteraction votes pls.

[Raivann]

I was thinking when you and Llama were arguing earlier it was scum bussing each other, now it makes even more sense.
Llama wouldn't vote Jordan earlier, instead took heat off him and started Mufasa wagon

Scum= cateraction, SP, Llama

cateraction's first up.

[Raivann]

At this point lynching jordan would yield more information than lynching anyone else imo. People have defended, attacked, FoSed, voted, and unvoted Jordan.

This is even more true now.

Be a good townie and vote cateraction.

[Raivann]

My meta of Jordan is fairly strong when it comes to the RVS and him. I don't think he is a good wagon.

Here's SP sticking up for Jordan.

My meta of Jordan is fairly strong when it comes to the RVS and him. I don't think he is a good wagon.

Does your meta of Jordan have him lurk when he gets a couple votes ?

Yes, but thats irrelevant and won't get him off the hook.

There is a difference between having a more defined way about starting games, even if they're anti-town, (i.e. self-voters) and those that are anti-town during the bigger chunks of the game.

Starting styles are as varied as the people that play, but nothing excuses lurking, although site-wide he hasn't posted much for a while, and nothing in 3 days.

He should be prodded/replaced.

I call bullshit.

[Raivann]

Raivann's last post is horrible. He is linking three players based on:

1) Socio and Llama bussing, which he suspected at the time.
- a) why do you think they were bussing, other than you are arguing they are scum?
- b)

why didn't you say so at the time?

2) Llama taking the heat off Jordan by starting another wagon.
- why is this action, in particular, one scum helping another? Several players voted Mufasa, and indeed many players have voted players other than Jordan throughout the game.

Without a lot more, these links are both incrediweak. It looks like flailing at two players who have attacked Raivann, plus one who he has tenuously linked to both of them.

Hmmm might have to add Fishy,
How could you not see that as a town we gain much more info off a cateraction lynch than anyone else?
Because I'd rather we see cateractions flip first , but alas this is slow game.
Bring it scumbags!

[Raivann]

both.

Did a quick read, I like X, Data and fishy for town. If its not obvious, in the event I am an investigative role, I did not target Data N0.

Llama, What is your read on Fishy ?
Do you still like Fish, Data, and X as town?

[Raivann]

You have gone through.... several players who you have called scum. Why do you constantly change your list? Why cateraction first? Llama has been a much more active leader than Cater. Cater just recently called you scum. That's why I feel this is mostly OMGUSy. I just don't like this post at all. I don't like how big your "scum list" is.

Cater has recently called me scum so its OMGUS on me?
Sorry you dont like my posts, not really.
It's how I scumhunt.

Because a town Llama mislynch would be an awful thing. My POV starts with if Jordan/cater is scum then...

Re: the post by SocioPath where you commented "I call bullshit" - please expand. What do you think SP intended this post to achieve?

Scumslips happen everywhere. On day 1 we have less to go on then later
Idk, youll have to ask SP.

[Raivann]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah. I'm not buying it.
In fact.
Unvote
Vote: Raivann
Don't worry, I'm just voting you because you are pushing for my lynch...ohwait.

Mufasa might even be your scum buddy.

I'd lynch SP for this comment too.

He still thinks Mufasa is scum? I can guarantee Mufasa is town.

[Raivann]

I'd lynch SP for this comment too.

He still thinks Mufasa is scum? I can guarantee Mufasa is town.

How can you guarantee it? Do you have any proof?

Because of his claim. I'll leave it at that.

[Raivann]

The cases on me about flip flopping and wagon hopping are lame.
I've been playing the game and posting alot so of course there is gonna be more to accuse me of.
I explained my stance on Tjoe. I think we can all agree that Mufasa did look scummy. And I haven't moved off Jordan/cat.
Talk about weak arguments. So if i stay on Jordan Im tunneling, I move off of Tjoe i'm flip flopping.
Weak sauce.

Sociopath - Don't understand his stance on Llama. Please explain.

No thanks.

Nice post.

[Raivann]

I recommend an iso read of Raivann to other players.

I second the notion, Iso read of Bogre not a bad idea either.

[Raivann]

note to self: don't piss CC off.

[Raivann]

See cool. If he is a SK, we reach that point when we reach that point, let scum deal with the WIFOM. No one should counterclaim vig, but at this this reassures my read on him as "not scum".

We really should lynch RF who is in super lurker avoidance role

RF is a bad choice.
You should reread him.

[Raivann]

To help

Raivann

a bit:

Post 156 – Why ~Jordan,

Raivann

?

And this time with reasons, other than: 'I think he's scum'

Post 177 – Why not check if it’s true,

Raivann

?

Also, anything you want to say regarding your 'lyncher'-comment?

Just trying to figure out what Llama was up to is all.

As for why Jordan, there was his rvs play.
He calls my post bullish, i ask what he means, he say's illogical but thats not what he means.
He lols alot
His hop on Tjoe wagon seemed fake.
There was more just cant remember it now.
His saying he has alot of time on his hands then dissappearing when he gets votes.
All his posts had a scummy flavor to em.

wow I completely missed that...though its nothing to be amazed at.
@Raivann my defin of bullish is around the same as illogical, except...i can't say it means illogical either...lol.

1 sec...

Don't know what to make of cateractions unvote of me when he was voting Data.

@cateraction-So who do you wanna lynch today?

[Raivann]

My main reason for thinking

we

are in one faction is that he was revealed as simply "mafia", not "x mafia" -

Freudian slip n. A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal a repressed belief, thought, or emotion.

FoS:Fishy
FoS:Data

[Raivann]

My main reason for thinking

we

are in one faction is that he was revealed as simply "mafia", not "x mafia" -

Freudian slip n. A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal a repressed belief, thought, or emotion.

FoS:Fishy
FoS:Data

But doesn't that tend to sexual repression mainly?

from Wiki-
"Popularisation of the term has resulted in its being applied to any slip-of-the-tongue phenomenon, often in an attempt by the user to humorously assign hidden motives or an air of sexual innuendo to the mistake. "

[Raivann]

am considering voting Llama as I seem to have some weird idea in my head about him being smarter than this usually. Fishy is either complacent town or scum and I'm leaning for scum ATM.

I've been thinking this all game too!
I think town Llama would be playing different.
I didnt want to lynch him D1 because if he is town, it would be bad.
That was actually the main reason i wanted cateraction lynch - to help me with my read of Llama.
How bout we lynch Bogre or Faraday and hopefully we can confirm Llama later?

@Fishy- You say Iso me, Iso Faraday and tell me what you think.
Is this scum trying to blend in, or what?

So are we gonna lynch anyone or are we gonna just wagon up everyone and reveal all our PR's?
I nominate Faraday

Unvote, Vote: Faraday

You're agreeing or disagreeing with shit after the fact has been noted.
You have been trying to blend in, but you, Sir, are scum.
Faraday has no desire to scumhunt, posts just enough to avoid prods, goes with the flow, and deserves to die.
But I do like your avatar though.
Maybe we should lynch Bogre?!, he doesn't have an avatar.

[Raivann]

I mean that sentence entirely literally. "One faction" refers to the game - a game with one scum faction as opposed to a multiscum game. "We" refers to all the players in this game. What did you think I intended to write? What slip did you think I made?

I know, I was trying to be funny.
So who is scum Fishy?

[Raivann]

Possibly. He certainly has not posted that often, or generally at any great length. Frankly, in cases like this I have difficulty picking who has genuinely not got very much time for the game, and who is lurking scum. Here, I'm inclined to think Faraday really does just have limited access (whether town or scum) - when he does post, it tends to be pretty game relevant and sometimes good new points.

I like your posts and would rather not lynch you today.
And I agree that Faraday does make good points that I agree with, which is why I'm suspicious. Where's the scumhunting ?

[Raivann]

I know, I was trying to be funny.
So who is scum Fishy?

Ah, ok. Often hard to tell over the internet, apologies.

As for who is scum - still you, for the same reasons. However, I'm aware that I need some more answers, not least because of the lack of interest in you. I intend to do some serious rereading, starting tonight, to work out who other good candidates are.

Is it a scumtell when players say they need "to do some serious rereading"?

[Raivann]

I mean that sentence entirely literally. "One faction" refers to the game - a game with one scum faction as opposed to a multiscum game. "We" refers to all the players in this game. What did you think I intended to write? What slip did you think I made?

I know, I was trying to be funny.

Not getting that impression from your post.

Ok half funny.

[Raivann]

I nominate Faraday

Unvote, Vote: Faraday

You're agreeing or disagreeing with shit after the fact has been noted.
You have been trying to blend in, but you, Sir, are scum.
Faraday has no desire to scumhunt, posts just enough to avoid prods, goes with the flow, and deserves to die.
But I do like your avatar though.
Maybe we should lynch Bogre?!, he doesn't have an avatar.

no wai do i deserve to die, unfounded accusations.
you're probs right, I could be doing more, just not got into this game. yeh i know rit, how scummy.

gonna read the thread and put a vote down

that said we ca leave him alive for today i guess, no real harm.

data's prob a serial killer ftr, sure he could be scum claiming the kill but that's a rather stupid thing to do for scum, as it opens up the posibillity of town directing their kills somewhat. i think not being alllowed to self vig is the thing that makes him a more likely sk, as i don't believe this would be in his pm, it's just obv he can't as a sk or he loses the game.

Oh Ok.
I'm going back to cat.

Unvote, Vote: cateraction

Lynches I support-
cateraction
Bogre
Fish

[Raivann]

Why the unvote?

It was pressure vote mainly.

[Raivann]

Have I done anything scummy, or is this still based on Jordan's actions.

Not feeling the Malcolm vote. What are your thoughts on BC and Fish ?

Quote:
@ Cateraction; well IDK, his lack of posting anything of substance is scummy, so yeh I think he's scummy, and has a good chance of being scum. For the moment he just needs to post something.


What I'm saying is, it looks like you're either pressuring him (which at this stage isn't really a good use of a vote) or you think he's the scummiest player right now (which I would say is pretty lame). Or possibly you're trying to put your vote somewhere that it wont stir up too much controversy. Basically, I think it's either a stupid or scummy vote.

Who were you quoting here?

Why the unvote?

It was pressure vote mainly.

I assume pressure vote for content. So what did you like about Faraday's post?

And to see what Fish would say.Everything except the RF vote.

Also Jordan was an obv VI,

Whats VI?

ZazieR wrote:
Oh, and Raivann, I'm still waiting for you to show me the light

I'll let RF's replacement answer for himself.

Why the question?

Because I wanted to know if scum or town say that more, or if it means anything.
A game i finished not to long ago scum player kept saying she would answer questions later or do a reread. What do you think?

[Raivann]

Saw that already. Question still stands though. How could your allignment have changed the vote you were gonna place, when you had already stated in the topic who is scummy and why.

Since anything that you post before knowing your alignment is necessarily a nulltell, this line of questioning seems extremely pointless.

The first bit is true. That it's pointless is not. I'm waiting for BC to explain why his vote should have been influenced by his allignment, while his analysis shouldn't have been.
Due to this, his statements come across as fake.

i don't if I can come up with a suitable answer for you. i've been pondering over this question for quite some time. I think part of it, was not sure if I should vote because i didn't know if the mod would count it, and the other was A preference. More so, depending on my alignment it could have swayed my vote, onto a player that was less scummy than my partner. (

note: this is hypothetical example

) Didn't want to jump into a game pressuring someone who I was scum with, when the pressure wasn't planned a head of time through some sort of quick topic. That's just personal preference. Of Course, what I should have done was wait to give any analysis. However I thought it would be the most unbiased and help the town if I went to do it before I read my role PM. I probably should have gone into detail in my first response, but I guess i just figured you would understand.

So if you would have seen we were partners, you wouldn't have voted me then.
You seem alot scummier after you read your role.
All your votes are along the line of 'that post is awful' or 'i dont like you' or 'that post is bad'
I don't wanna vote for cateraction anymore because of his reason for unvoting me(forgot about that). Maybe thats what he wants me think, but regardless I'd rather lynch BC today now.
I dont have much a read on Muffin who he replaced
But Muffin did kinda play newb card and make lighthearted posts, I didnt find Muffin scummy, but who knows.

Unvote, Vote: BloodCovenant

[Raivann]

Unvote, Vote:Bogre

[Raivann]

Prod response.

Scummy post.

[Raivann]

It's clear that we are not going to get a non-X lynch before deadline.

unvote, vote: X_~

I think it's time for X to claim. I still prefer a Bogre lynch, but that's not happening and X is a far better lynch than noone.

I'm not liking X lynch, How bout Data lynch instead?

[Raivann]

im opting out

Thanks for all your insight.

[Raivann]

Three scum down we are on a roll! Zazier quick lynch could work, but not without proper discussion. Day Vig on Raivann would probably give us a good bit of information to make the lynch of Zazier qualified.

What good bit of info would we get?
How would my flip qualify Zazie's lynch?

FoS:whoot1234

[Raivann]

Cult? Max 2 cultists? I have two candidates:

Mufasa and Raivann. Mufasa's claim was enigmatic as hell, and even though it seemed believable, there is still something that bothers me about it. Then came Raivann, who said that Mufasa is 100% not scum because of his claim. At first I thought, it might be possible, that Raivann is the second part of Mufasa's role, but now as 2 man cult possibility appeared, I feel that it might be them.

I would have recruited CC if I was cult leader.
The truth is my role is alot like Mufasa's.
I'm town aligned, the rest of my role is lost.
I win when all threats to Dreamland have been eliminated.

@Zaz- About why I didn't like RF vote-
I thought he was softclaiming Doctor here...

Ray

, you quoted the following:

Prod avoidance.

Nothing to say

.

I was responding to the bolded as you've said many times you'd post some content soon in different ways.

I was too lazy to delete that bit. I have a lot to say, but I don't feel like saying it for some reason...

stomach ache, perhaps?

Also,

Ray

, if you didn't understand my question, then why didn't you ask for clarification?

I did, you just took what I said at face value... never good when somebody says "on a more serious note" since the note means that the previous stuff was not serious, so taking it seriously would be a serious offense to the non-seriousness of the pre-serious information that is, in fact, serious.

But you said you didn't understand my question...
Now I'm confused ._.

it was a joke (the I don't believe your question either bit).

Also, I don't really have stomach ache... >.> I'm just trying to allude to something, but I guess I'm failing at it.

[Raivann]

I hoped to get Seraphim to claim correctly his n0 visit to

this player

, and/or his n1 visit to Spyrex, in the fear that I had watched or tracked him.

@fishy : this player?.... who is it?

Yeah...Who is it?

Why withhold info?

[Raivann]

Vote:BloodCovenant

FoS:Zazie

for not posting since Spyrex called her definite scum.

[Raivann]

How bout we lynch Blood and CC shoots Bogre?

[Raivann]

Why shoot me?

And do you have a reason for lynching Bloodcovenant? Especially when we've got the possibility to squash cult?

What is the reasoning for the Zazier FOS? He hasn't posted in what, a day? Some people have lives.

Ok, ok...How bout we shoot Blood and lynch Bogre then?

[Raivann]

vote: Raivann

My suspicions of Raiv on day one were rocked a little when cateraction flipped. But I think he's an excellent candidate for being cult. For reasons, see my iso, posts 18-23.

I also dislike his trigger-happy attitude today, his demand for info without any real reason and his preemptive claim.

Did you want to use the day vig today?

We should figure out who we wanna day vig, I don't see that as trigger happy.

I still don't see how withholding your info hurts town/ helps scum.

And I claimed because people were talking about shooting me.

[Raivann]

Most scummy to Most townie

BloodCovenent
Bogre

Datadanne
Fishythefish
ZazieR
SpyreX
Mufasa

whoot1234
Faraday
Tjoe Min Ja
Raivann
Col.Cathart
Seraphim

[Raivann]

Wait...you're more scummy than Col. Cathart and Seraphim, by your OWN admission???

Your list is bad....what strikes you as particularly town about Tjoe Min? What is scummy about Fish? You are pressing for a claim and saying 'do you want to use the dayvig today' is really, really scummy. You're trying to drive the dayvig really hard, and defending your own actions threateningly with that as a shield.

You are being anti-town.

VOTE: Raivann

I like to appear a little scummy, saves me from getting NK'ed

It's like we get 2 lynches having dayvig and I'm not driving really hard.
Ultimately it's up to CC, but I think we should come to a consensus on who we want to dayvig, before we decide who we want to lynch.

[Raivann]

I'm suspicious of Fish because of his stance on me, cateraction, and X.

He did hop on X lynch at the end though

cateraction
I found Jordan scummy.

I’ve found cateraction protown. I have agreed with most of what he’s said, and he’s made good points.

@cateraction: why do you now think Raivann is a bad lynch? You attack Malcolm “For voting based on stupid scumtells. Attacking a town leader baselessly, Scum slips and shoddy logic.” Please explain “scum slips” and “shoddy logic” further.


- X
Another player I find extremely hard to read. I disagree with quite a lot of what he says. But it doesn’t feel like he’s avoiding scumhunting, just that he’s doing it badly. There’s no obvious opportunism or bandwagoning in his play. Doesn’t feel like he has a scum agenda.

Still fairly torn, but I’d guess town.

[Raivann]

So back to BC...you still haven't supplied much against him? Whats the difference between him and Tjoe, except that Tjoe has supplied some actual reasons for liking Fishy's plan?

It seems like BC was only interested in scumhunting before he read his role.

Actually, "trigger happy" is a bad summary of what I've disliked about the posts where you talk about dayvigging. You've said a couple of times "we should shoot X and lynch Y". I don't like this because by scumhunting two at a time you keep you options open to jump onto a convenient wagon. It really distracts from who you actually find most likely scum/cult, and why.

I would like CC to shoot today, probably. However, I'm quite happy for him to use his initiative, and see no pressing need to get shooting.

Yeah I shouldn't have been saying shoot and lynch , just shoot. But it does get reactions and I like Bogre's.

[Raivann]

Actually, I agree with his list, with a few exceptions (Faraday to scummy people, SpyreX and Fishy to the town, whoot to neutral).

The reason I had whoot in town group was for malcolm's play.
I forgot whoot replaced malcolm when i Fos'ed him earlier.
Malcolm was also pushing hard for Jordan/cat lynch.

[Raivann]

@Zaz- About why I didn't like RF vote-
I thought he was softclaiming Doctor here...

Ray

, you quoted the following:

Prod avoidance.

Nothing to say

.

I was responding to the bolded as you've said many times you'd post some content soon in different ways.

I was too lazy to delete that bit. I have a lot to say, but I don't feel like saying it for some reason...

stomach ache, perhaps?

Also,

Ray

, if you didn't understand my question, then why didn't you ask for clarification?

I did, you just took what I said at face value... never good when somebody says "on a more serious note" since the note means that the previous stuff was not serious, so taking it seriously would be a serious offense to the non-seriousness of the pre-serious information that is, in fact, serious.

But you said you didn't understand my question...
Now I'm confused ._.

it was a joke (the I don't believe your question either bit).

Also, I don't really have stomach ache... >.> I'm just trying to allude to something, but I guess I'm failing at it.

@Spyrex- What do you think RF was alluding to here ?

[Raivann]

RAIVANN, DO YOU HAVE A POST RESTRICTION?

No.

[Raivann]

Fishythefish is town, I believe what he has to say, and I have rolebased info to do so, lynch Zazier, dayvig seraphim sounds like a plan.

Are you 100% certain Fish is town?

[Raivann]

Also, Data is SK. Mafia, please kill him, kthnxbai.

If he is SK he is still 2 for 2.
That cateraction kill was sweet!

[Raivann]

@Whoot- Do you know the result of malcom's Night 0 investigation ?

[Raivann]

Are cult members informed when they are recruited? I don't have any previous meta on cult recruits and dont recall games I played with cults.

But I vary much agree with the dayvig or Raivan, and the lynch of Zazier. Because If you guys are correct about the Raivann being a cult leader, or if there being a cult at all that'd be a good place to touch up on. But Zazier is one pushy ****. Very aggressive this game, I feel that that is a good place for a lynch looking at the game layout right now.

vote: Zazier

Why do you agree with dayvig of me?
I was saying on day 1 that your claim was believable(because my role was similiar)

Alot of us had you pegged as town after your claim, and I think that you would have made a good cult recruit.

I also think this post of yours reeks of someone who just got culted.

[Raivann]

idk, I've never played a game with cults.
Do power roles keep their power?

Does anyone know of any complete games with cults?

[Raivann]

Yes, I object!
Don't shoot me CC, I'm town.
And I actually post.

I prefer dayvig of BC or Mufasa or Zazier.

I also wouldn't put to much stock in Fish's reads, he's been off alot this game.
Take now for instance, I think Spyrex pretty much nailed Zazier, and I'm town.

The difference in my and Mufasa's roles are that I don't have any night action and I was hoping to get more info of my lost role today, but that didn't happen.
I'm probably amnesiac townie or something. There is something going on with amnesia in Nightmareland I just haven't figured it out yet.

[Raivann]

Kill:Col.Catfart

[Raivann]

Nice Shootin Data. GG everyone!