The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)
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He's being replaced hopefully. You have anything else to say? Have you read the game yet?[/quote]Papa Zito wrote:unvote: DGB
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This is the good wagon.
ORLY? Last thing I saw from the mod was that he'd picked up his prod today. Why would you assume this?
And yeah I've read the game.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I don't like that DGB has disappeared. That's unlike her; I think she's intentionally lurking.VP Baltar wrote:
Ah, true enough. I guess that is unfortunate for us.PZ wrote:ORLY? Last thing I saw from the mod was that he'd picked up his prod today. Why would you assume this?
And yeah I've read the game.
Anyhow, since you've read the game, is there anything else you think is worth commenting on?
Several people have called Snow Bunny (lol) obvtown and I don't see it. There's a large contradiction in her general play (newbish) and her decision to claim millar early day 1 (vet). I think she's being coached.
Rosso needs to be vigged. Also now I know where Zwet copied his hammer policy from.
Tajo's really quiet and seems willing to follow wagons instead of lead them. Both are very un-Tajo-like and make me uncomfortable.
That's about all I've pulled so far. I need to reread the game.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Oh wow this is terribad.Vaya wrote:
I was unvoting stark because I'm probably going to switch my vote to kmd.VP Baltar wrote:Vaya, why did you unvote in your most recent post?
In fact,Vote: Kmd, especially because I agree with Spy's suggestion.
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Sorry, it's a Final Fantasy reference. The bard guy attacks enemies with music. He's also one of the crappiest characters ever. The "spoony bard" thing is one of those hilarious Japanese translation artifacts.Kmd4390 wrote:Oh, and Zito? I don't get your pic..KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Giver-related goodness" exactly. My reaction to the death is in there, but a specific place/time/activity isn't mentioned.Plum wrote:
Clarify please: No Giver-related goodness at all? Very well, I suppose; my hypothesis might well be wrong. But it doesn't lessen Kmd's scumminess a whit (he's just not going further up that ladder.Papa Zito wrote:To be fair, Plum, my PM doesn't mention that I was in some specific place when The Giver was killed either.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Much more powerful than your JK/Vig combo? lolwut?Kmd4390 wrote:I can see that I'm today's lynch. Fine by me considering there are probably roles much more powerful than mine.
Okay then.
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ITP: Benmage is worried.Benmage wrote:
Lets here this SK tale tall...Kmd4390 wrote:All of my scumhunting has been genuine and will continue to be if I'm still alive. I just need a certain lynch to happen and if it does, I'm gone without you guys having to use a lynch to kill me. I can almost guarantee that I can bag the SK too based on something in my Role PM.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Guys, it explicitly said rats.
Can we move on from this please?curiouskarmadog wrote:He resembles nothing but a hunk of meat and bone that looks like it has been feasted upon by hundreds of tiny little mouths. Several dead rats lay next to him. Apparently he put up a fight before being overwhelmed and consumed.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Tubby.
Response plox.LlamaFluff wrote:Nothing has changed there. The unexplained shift in stance on millers, whos claim is increasingly validated by KK flip, the shrug it off when asked for an explaination, the continual tunnel on SB for the majority of the day...KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Lawl. Sup hydra.StarKiss wrote:Something tells me that Spyrex can't be killed this phase anyway. Experiment if you all want, but I think it's more interesting to believe he did try to kill SB and it somehow backfired. Not worth voting either of them, but an interesting note to remember down the line.
I think the real question should be: What about a miller would cause something like that to backfire?
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I'm a little iffy on Spyrex's claim, honestly. For one, he doesn't have the -er, which thus far (1 3rd party, 1 scum, 3 town flips) has proven a good way to judge claims. Second, as milkshake said, the potions thing doesn't really jive with the theme; we're supposed to be born with our powers, not have to fabricate them. I can easily see a scenario where Spyrexscum trying to make a kill, having it backfire, and then scrambling to come up with a reason why.
On the other hand, there was nothing in Snow_Bunny's claim that would make me think she has some sort of protection on her, so I'm wondering how the thing could have backfired in the first place. So I'm with you DGB about waiting for Snow_Bunny's side of things.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I am. Until I see this theory disproven (and my role follows this pattern as well) then I'm going to assume it's true.milkshake wrote:SpyreX, no one is concerned that your role doesn't end in -er.
I'm thinking this might be the one. Either SB has something inherent that reflects attacksDrippingGoofball wrote:Two, SB is lying and can reflect actions against her.orone of her buddies put that on her, knowing that a townie vig would try to off the claimed miller at night.
Either way, her silence is deafening.
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y halo thar 3rd party.SpyreX wrote:I am The Alchemist. I make potions but don't know what I make but yet people still want them.There's a war on but I don't care- I have a new set of potions and want to find out what they do.
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Also, this doesn't make sense from a town perspective:
SpyreX: Here Snow Bunny, have a free power.
SB: Thanks! *vote SpyreX*
So what we have here is a 3rd party vs. scum. This is fantastic.
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Truescum (patent pending) are inherently more dangerous than 3rd parties. So if I get to choose, which I think I do in the SpyreX/Bunny tandem, I'll go with truescum (patent pending) every time.DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm not sure I get the reasoning, but from my vantage point, scum is scum. Know what I mean?
1. ? Why wouldn't town care? E.g.: SKsDrippingGoofball wrote:[1]Only scum care about the alleged machinations of putative third parties. [2]Also, scum is in the very best position to recognize the existence of a third party, being themselves a "second" party.
2. ??? Truescum (patent pending) can't tell the difference between town and 3rd party.
Okie dokie.DrippingGoofball wrote:Why don't you explain the reasoning more fully, PZ?
1. The townies we've flipped, and the townies who've claimed, all have inherent powers, which matches the theme of the game - being born near the Dark Goma grants powers. SpyreX looks like he was born outside the city walls and has to manufacture powers through these potions.
2. SpyreX's role PM lacks the Type line that the sample townie PM and my PM have.
3. SpyreX's role PM lacks any mention of the Giver.
4. SpyreX has claimed that his role doesn't care about the Giver/War at all.
5. SpyreX's claimed role name lacks the -xr ending. Again, I'm giving credence to this theory until I see something that contradicts it.
These things add up to 3rd party (prolly survivor) to me.
Now, then, to Snow_Bunny.
1. Snow_Bunny claims miller Day 1. This is a veteran move but Snow_Bunny is no veteran.
2. Snow_Bunny requests cops to investigate her to "test their sanity."
3. SpyreX attempted to target her and became Born Again SpyreX. I think SB set a trap.
4. Snow_Bunny claims to have received a 1-shot cop ability but refuses to acknowledge that it came from SpyreX.
5. Further, she votes him.
6. Her scumhunting has been of the incredibly nit-picky active lurking variety. The vast majority of her posts just answer questions.
The reason I think she's more scum than 3rd-party is point 1. I think she was coached to claim miller.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Sajin wrote:I am still not voting SB because I think it is a bad wagon. I 100 percent think she needs to spill that ability asap though.
Is not paying attention a scumtell?Snow_Bunny wrote:Ok, you want me to claim, I have a one-shot cop ability. There, happy? It was not the point of hiding the ability, but the eagerness of some of you to make me claim.
If it's a bad wagon does that mean you think SB is town?
If you think SB is town why do you need to know the ability?
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I like when people agree with me.DrippingGoofball wrote:So what do you think about the players that were eager to agree with your third party theory?
It'll depend on the flip really.
NOBODY WOULD JOIN MY SCOPE WAGON.Benmage wrote:
True. For him I highlighted his post count. Its absurd, and if you do a quick iso you can see how useless of a player hes been.dramonic wrote:scope hasnt fallen off the radar, even if his post count is low.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYdramonic wrote:Cuz he wasn't the lych for the day PZ.
There's still time!
Ugh ugh ugh. The whole "innocent blood" business.Snow_Bunny wrote:And, what are your great plans when I flip up town? Hunt for Spy?
We examine the very informative wagon and move on.
Yar.SerialClergyman wrote:Papa Zito is absolutely town, by the way.
Arg.Benmage wrote:Did SB ever reveal what the oneshot ability gained was?
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Yeah, I'm not really sure where the confusion lies.
3rd party SpyreX might want to hit Snow_Bunny for just the reason he gave: "It's the protown thing to do, lulz"
Scum SpyreX might target her because some people declared her obvtown.
I agree that our wheels seem to be spinning a bit. Someone do something scummy.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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HAI GUYZ
BAD NEWS
So the leader is The Converter.curiouskarmadog wrote:A group called The Converters (named after its leader) was formed and became the biggest threat to Surico and The Council.
Convert.er
No more -xr=town theory.
Dude. Don't touch me there.SpyreX wrote:Further, with this many power roles I think the chances are slim that we do NOT have a watcher-type role. Thus, I would propose: SC touches Zito. Watcher watches SC. Doc protects Zito. If anyone is seen going to SC they are scum and die. If Zito doesn't give SC an ability he is scum and dies.
Also, I don't want to lose my power kthx.
lolwut? Go read the game again.chamber wrote:My reads from scummiest to townest:
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Papa Zito
So did I read earlier that a Scope wagon could happen? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Eh. That's not so bad I guess.SerialClergyman wrote:You don't lose your power. Night that I touch you it goes through, the next night I steal it then you get it back after that.
Sort of like a delayed blocker, I guess.
Here's something weird tho.
So then...SpyreX wrote:If Zito doesn't give SC an ability he is scum and dies.
???SerialClergyman wrote:I touched Spyrex and was informed I didn't receive an ability.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Oooh, okay, that makes sense.SerialClergyman wrote:I think Spyrex was saying
1) If Papa has an -er role he must have an active role
2) Clergy can steal active roles
3) If Clergy doesn't steal a role when touching Papa, Papa must be lying about his role.
The assumption at number 1) seems to be incorrect according to chamber, so the possibility doesn't seem to work.
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Holy crap. I don't think you could possibly play the follower more.Snow_Bunny wrote:I'm starting to think that all people that strongly debate against the -xr theory is because they are afraid that will blow away their cover. Being 3rd party or scum, I really believe it's a good hint. Probably not enough to warrant a lynch, but it adds to a case.
I'd also like to know the reasons behind Chamber's list.
Oh, and yes, I believe DGB is scummy. I stated my reasons before. However, I'm starting to seeing Ben as really erratic.
Passive ability? Passive like "anyone who targets you will get turned into a freaky zombie"?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Oh FFS.dramonic wrote:chamber wrote:Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'edUnvote
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I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.
I'm with SpyreX. This game.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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I like this plan, except for the part where she's roleblocked (if actually town).VP Baltar wrote:Now, I know you are going to say we can only take her word on that, but it is very simple to confirm whether or not she was telling the truth: we lynch her or vig her after she reveals the investigation. If she flips what she says she is, it's likely she was telling the truth. If she flips scum, then all the better and we can assess her "investigation" from there.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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GAHstark wrote:Let's lynch Rosso
Vote: Rosso Carne
If we're going to lynch someone outside the SpyreX/SnowBunny fiesta, let it be scope. Let it be, let it be, let it be.
This post makes me giggle every time I read it.dramonic wrote:Benmage wrote:VP Baltar wrote:Bicker bicker.
Bicker!VP Baltar wrote:Bicker?
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What does it mean that the attacks weren't picked up on until today? Distancing dear stark, distancing.stark wrote:What does that mean if the running theory is that SB was coached by a more experienced scumpartner into claiming miller D1?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Entirely possible. When looking at voting trends D1 wagons tend to carry the most weight, mainly because they hold the most flips. Being early on a scum wagon can really help you ride to endgame.stark wrote:Are you saying that KK was trying to bus his partner D1?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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watchamber wrote:w/e I'm getting more attention than I wanted from this so I'll just go ahead and claim now. I'm the flurry. My ability is to control the weather. Unless someone wants to come forward as having being effected by the snow all this appears to do is prove what I've done in the night (look at the flurries present in the thread name and the morning scene). My options are snow, rain, cloudy, and sunny. Assuming no one comes forward as having been effected by the snow I'll follow the towns direction on which weather to use which night. And as I previously stated this is described as a passive ability.
I'm really, really irritated that people just... what, lost interest? and tore down a perfectly good wagon. *shakes fist*
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Baltar, scumlist plz.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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There's no sense keeping my vote on a dead wagon. I need to figure out if I like any of the newer ones enough to place it there.VP Baltar wrote:PZ- do you think SB is scum or not? If so, why the hell are you unvoting just because I took the wind out of your sails? Do you disagree with the logic I presented?
People I think need to be lynched in the immediate future:
Benmage
tubby
milkshake
That's all your getting from me for now.
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Because they won't get lynched?VP Baltar wrote:Why is there no sense keeping your vote on a "dead" wagon if you think the person being wagoned is scum?
People seem willing to lynch her tomorrow if she survives so I'll have to be happy with that. I've encouraged this wagon as much as I can but apparently it's not enough.
You're obviously trying to pin something on me here. WWVPD?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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So, you know, eww.VP Baltar wrote:As people are now bailing off like rats on a sinking ship, I want to catch those scum and make a nice rat stew for later.
The difference tho is that nobody joined your wagon until now. I had a great wagon going and it fell apart. It'll be interesting to see what you do if your wagon falls apart too since this seems to be a really fickle town.VP Baltar wrote:Personally, I don't think giving up on a wagon you believe in is a way to get scum lynched.
What Would VP Do? obvobvdramonic wrote:WWVPD?
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Benmage, I think you should add lurking to your repertoire.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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