MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (Tar's subgame): Game Over

[Papa Zito]

Wait, what? What the hell am I doing here?

[Papa Zito]

Also it seems there is an adding role and there is a swapping role.

So why was I swapped? UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE humor?

I think it's obvious the portal-spawner (sup SpyreX?) is here.

BRB, reading for suspects.

[Papa Zito]

fos mastin

for surviving.

Did you attempt to kill him last night?

Can't believe I'm wasting another post. >_<

Do you have a post restriction of some sort?

Papa, did you read my flavor text at all that I quoted?

I read it again. What about it?

My guess is that you were added, not swapped.

I think I was swapped for Budja.

Welcome Papa Zito. What are your thoughts about you being swapped in here? (i.e Who you think would do this and why?). I'm thinking the way you got here is probably anti-town influenced, but I still wonder why even the Mafia would do this......

Konnichiwa?

I'm completely in the dark about it. I didn't get a PM or anything. Whatever happened originated here, but beyond that I have no idea what happened or why.

vote: Vino

[Papa Zito]

Yos (FL game) made a good post on the subject:

If they think someone in their game is likely scum, then they have every motive to get that person out of their game and send him here, and vice versa. We, the pro-town people in this game, win if the scum are either killed OR removed from our game, which means if we send a scum into another game, it improves our chances of winning. (It's not as good as actually killing a scum, of course, because there is a risk they might get sent back.) Frankly, if a bunch of scum get sent into one of the other games and then the scum win that game, that actually helps the pro-town people here win.

Maybe someone here decided Budja was scum and I'm town so they swapped us to help this game?

[Papa Zito]

Is Tar always so helpful in his games?

Zito though, I don't see where your vote is coming from, care to explain?

You haven't done anything in this game.

[Papa Zito]

Well that's just not true.

Oh, my bad. Who should I be voting?

[Papa Zito]

Holy crap. The gods are killing everyone.

He may drop hints or things that look like hints. Ultimately you won't know for sure how useful or helpful they are until after the end of the game. MS3 being a good example of that where he kind of directed me to kill actual scum who turned out to be a replaceable scum w/o a role reveal leading me to effectively waste my NK.

Eh. I've read the Mind Screw games but I'm not thinking this one conforms to that mold.

No worries, I think it's just stylistic.

[Papa Zito]

By dead, I mean it needs a good bandwagon. Kairyuu is lurking.

Vino needs moar votes.

[Papa Zito]

What is your obsession with me? I'll vote how I please and at the moment I see no cause to vote.

Wat.

[Papa Zito]

@Papa Zito: Any clue as to why you might have been pulled into this game?

My best guess is that there's a pro-town player in this game that has the ability to swap people. I think this player decided that Budja was likely scum and I was likely town, so they switched us to give this game a further advantage.

Or we could have been picked at random by some sort of Tar game mechanic. Who knows?

[Papa Zito]

Zito, why are you pushing for Vito so hard? And could you also explain your reasoning for joining that absurd alliance in FL's game?

I think a better question is: Why aren't you pushing anyone at all?

I explained my reason for joining THE UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE already. You seem to be reading the other games, why are you asking this again?

Mastin seems town from when I have played with him. Although one game I only played for 2 days irl.

Mastin doesn't seem like Mastin at all.

[Papa Zito]

There goes Zwet. Wonder if we'll see more people move around now.

Also, I can't believe this game is at the bottom of my watch list. Jeez.

Vino, you never answered my question. Who should I be voting?

[Papa Zito]

I like how I could summarize this whole case into fence sitting. Thanks for writing it all out though.

I was going to do this soonish since Vino seriously needs more attention and everyone is sitting on their hands.

Goodposting, ChaosOmega.

[Papa Zito]

NO U

Can we lynch this guy now?

[Papa Zito]

News from SSK's game:

As Day 2 arises, you notice that Qwints has switched Planes. You also notice, that Percy,Metallic Sliver,Mafia Goon has been killed.

Didn't say where qwints ended up though.

Also, the nightkills aren't make any sense.

[Papa Zito]

Lawl, ninja'd. Well, there you go.

vote: Vino

[Papa Zito]

I'm not reading the other games.. more like skimming it. I did not remember your reasoning, quite possibly due to it being contained in a long post and I'm not about to re-read a game that has very little relevance to mine. So why don't you post it here?

Very little relevance? We now have three incidences of people moving across games and you still think they have very little relevance?

I joined THE UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE because it was lulz and too insane to be a scum tactic. Plus the game needed momentum and it promised to deliver.

[1]You still haven't explained why you pushed Vito so hard out of the blue upon coming into the game? [2]You really didn't have a case until Chaos did a pbpa which is completely circumstancial. [3]Now granted, Vito's responses are worrysome, but the "you didn't do anything" argument is invalid as it could be applied to some degree to probably more than half the people in this game. [4]This is also probably the reason why I haven't really pushed anyone. There's been more confusion about roles and modkills and night results than anything else.

1. Wait... you're complaining that I started scumhunting when I got here? Really?
2. Our cases are the same, Chaos just did you lot a favor by spelling it out. Anyone could have done and iso on Vino and (should have) come to the same conclusion.
3. Vino is the most egregious offender; you are a close second. Also, the fact that attacking Vino has drawn you out of the woodwork is almost as interesting as Vino's lack of defense.
4. It's probably the reason? You don't know your own motivations? Also, how does sitting on your hands help cut through the confusion and find scum?

[Papa Zito]

Who was your target, Vino?

[Papa Zito]

ANOTHER third party flipped? (FL game - Flava Flave was a "Hitman", sounds like an SK) Holy crap, am I the only townie in this game?

I've let Mastin slide because of this:

Mastin will not be prodded due to extenuating circumstances, though I will remind him that this game exists if he does not post in a day or two

That time is up though, obviously.

Mod: Please prod Mastin

I haven't messed with Malthusis yet because he's been probing people.

I dunno what to make of Pyro. I'm waiting for a few more flips to see if some sort of recruiting role appears. If one doesn't pop up soon then it may be time to go after him again.

Veerus, if I shouldn't be attacking Vino, who should I be attacking?

[Papa Zito]

Good find malthusis, and that jives with what he said he was.

[Papa Zito]

Whats up with you not voting anyone Veerus? You seem to have opinions that nothing but my vote could bring out. Lets see some action based on those opinions.

Ok.

vote: Papa Zito

You didn't answer my question.

[Papa Zito]

Vino's taking an awfully long time to come up with his story.

Also waiting on Veerus.

[Papa Zito]

Sorry guys. What have I not answered yet?

Who was your target?

Also, I'm thinking Mastin has been "removed from play" somehow.

[Papa Zito]

Why did you choose Yosarian?

[Papa Zito]

Tajo flipped vanilla in FL's game. He was the nightkill.

Please tell me we're not going to have to wait until Vino is prodded again to get answers.

[Papa Zito]

I'm happy too but I want to wring some blood from this stone if we can.

[Papa Zito]

... then how do you know he posted?

whoot's n00b defense in SSK's game is laughable. N00bs weren't allowed to join this game.

[Papa Zito]

He posted Saturday in a couple other games, then posted here. So I'm not seeing what you are.

[Papa Zito]

I believe he posted on the 20th. My search thing doesn't work though. =/

So your vote is unjustified, yes? Or do you have other reasons for voting him?

[Papa Zito]

Someone put whoot out of his misery.

Its the thing from not voting to voting.

wat?

[Papa Zito]

And veerus magically appears right after the hammer. Must be a gift.

[Papa Zito]

yeah, some gift.. getting in a car and driving for a few hours... quite spectacular.

You were in the car for 3 days? Must be a Prius.

[Papa Zito]

Sigh.

Mastin better show up tomorrow.

[Papa Zito]

Mufasa needs to die like woah.

[Papa Zito]

I have a bad feeling the bad guys are stockpiling people here to get a majority.

So, who to take out first, the serial lurker or the beautiful flower?

Dead weight wins.

vote: Zazie

[Papa Zito]

This thread needs moar posting.

[Papa Zito]

I'm good either way, honestly. Mufasa at least posts so I'd keep him around just for activity's sake.

Veerus also still needs to die. Choices, choices...

Hey, I had a thought. What if veerus is the correct choice, and the scum imported wounded townies to distract us from him?

[Papa Zito]

Zito is town, yes. Flu-ridden town, but town nonetheless.

@Mod: Votecount plz

I've just reread things. Mufasa really needs to die.

unvote: ZazieR
vote: Mufasa

[Papa Zito]

Also, I don't know WTF SSK's game is doing. There is role-based info that Box is non-town and he's not getting wagoned.

[Papa Zito]

@mod: I'm voting Mufasa.

Hey Sajin, could you write a quick town/neutral/scum summary plox?

[Papa Zito]

@Sajin: Yeah, I know you're in another game. I meant for this one, sorry.

Per Sajin's request:

Sure. I am Rhada, Heir to Keld. I am a planeswalker of Planar Chaos.

Triggered ability- Whenever I would be killed, instead of dieing I can pick a sub game plane. I am swapped planes with a random person from that game. I was told I would die last night so I picked this game and was informed I swapped with zazier. (it has regeneration and graveyard flavor but I figured that would get confusing) If my random target would be invalid for any reason, I will die as normal. This ability uses +1/+1 counters of which I started with XXXX of them.



Role Name- I will be saving it to confirm others like me. Planeswalker Townie is not my role name. Just to clarify.



(Oh and feel free to read all the breadcrumbs about me being a planeswalker, I knew I would be swapping threads/planes so....there ya go, though no one paid any attention to my calls out about other threads, bleh)

[Papa Zito]

You have got to be kidding me.

NEW STRATEGY

Everyone else in this game dies of inactivity-itis. I'm the only one left. Town wins.

[Papa Zito]

Sorry Mastin. I hope things get fixed soon.

[Papa Zito]

I really do want to play this game, honest.

[Papa Zito]

Eh.

vote: Mufasa

Let's get this done.

[Papa Zito]

Dammit Spyrex, why the hell would you go shoot Kairyuu? Budja was obvobv better choice.

Welcome to L-1, Mufasa.

[Papa Zito]

A roleclaim would be prudent at this point.

[Papa Zito]

So vanilla?

[Papa Zito]

Yeah, flaking isn't a scumtell.

So basically if we're wrong at least we don't lynch a power role. Yay.

[Papa Zito]

Qwints said he has proof of my alignment he probably could tell you more I have no idea how or if he is a cop but his intuitiveness is correct

Bzzt.

Full claim: I'm a weak slider doctor, "Eladarmi, lord of leaves." If my target is going to be killed in that round, they move games instead. If I target scum (according to Tar) or do not save someone (SSK), then I move games. I protected Boxman night 1 and Papa Zito night 2.

Sorry, don't see your name on there.

LAL people.

[Papa Zito]

We need a hammer. Or a post. Or something.

[Papa Zito]

DEAR SPYREX I'D LIKE TO WIN THIS GAME TOO OK THX.

P.S. Sajin is stalling.

[Papa Zito]

Ok I've been given the following info. I am town (lol) mastin is town and budja is survivor.

Uh.

You were given this just now?

[Papa Zito]

SAJIN: Because you have an obvious lynch in front of you, but you're not doing it.

I wish I was home. :/

[Papa Zito]

Budja did, indeed, flip survivor.

Man, this game is infested with 3rd parties.

[Papa Zito]

Ok I've been given the following info. I am town (lol) mastin is town and budja is survivor.

Uh.

You were given this just now?

Yes. Fl sent it to me. Tar was supposed to send it to me, but didn't.

Why were you given information on these three particular players?

@HH: Yeah I read all three.

[Papa Zito]

Because kariyuu inspected them.

Right-o.

Sajin is hardcore rolefishing. He seems really scared about this vig business.

[Papa Zito]

Prods all around?

[Papa Zito]

Bugger. A cult won FL's game. I wonder if that'll have any impact here.

[Papa Zito]

Post.

[Papa Zito]

I'd be fine with that, Tar.

[Papa Zito]

Ugh.

Pyro, who's our scum?

[Papa Zito]

Hurrah, more peoples.

[Papa Zito]

BTW, replacey peoples, you'll want to concentrate here but you'll need to at least skim the other two to get the full context of the game.