The Sopranos: A Deadly Game (GAME OVER!)

Empking · Post Post #70 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:26 am

inHimshallibe wrote:I need to play more games with hohum.

Why?

Empking · Post Post #92 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:48 am

Vote: Inhim

- Dodging Questions

Empking · Post Post #107 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:02 am

fuzzylightning wrote:Emp: what questions in particular is he dodging? Is that all you have to say on the subject?

The question I asked him. Yes.

Empking · Post Post #113 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:03 pm

fuzzylightning wrote:Emp: So you are voting him because you asked him a completely mundane question and he has yet to answer it? Why does that make him likely to be scum?

I think repeatedly ignoring a question puts himself as scummier than the other players.

Empking · Post Post #131 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:36 am

Millar: Your thoughts on EK?

Empking · Post Post #135 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:32 am

elvis_knits wrote:
Empking wrote:Millar: Your thoughts on EK?
Empking: what are your thoughts on millar? or anyone?

I think he's played typically so I've got a mild town read on him.

Empking · Post Post #177 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:51 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:
ZONEACE wrote:POOR PLAY IS ANTI-TOWN

God I go away for several months and you people STILL haven't learned that.

IF SOMEONE IS PLAYING POORLY THEY ARE WORKING AGAINST THE TOWNS BEST INTERESTS

Honestly, sometimes you have to lynch bad town players to get them out of the way. Right now, Al is either bad town, or worse mafia.
My inside info gives me good vibes from al's play so far.

Is your II meta based?

Empking · Post Post #241 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:06 am

Locke: Second scummiest thing Al did?

Empking · Post Post #293 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:04 am

Ddo Hohum or ZA have votes on them?

Empking · Post Post #445 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:47 am

Has somebody been lynched?

Empking · Post Post #516 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:53 pm

elvis_knits wrote:Is it possible raj did a job but had to kick up so much money because he's that low in the organization?

That seems unlikely.

Empking · Post Post #663 (isolation #12) » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:14 am

Elvis: Second scummiest player?

Empking · Post Post #672 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:10 am

Vote: Zwets

Empking · Post Post #718 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:06 am

Unvote

Zwets play since I voted him has been very good and makes him appear town in my eyes.

Empking · Post Post #719 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:07 am

Vote: ZA

His reaction to Inhim seems peculiar and does so in a scummy manner.

Empking · Post Post #740 (isolation #16) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:06 am

rajrhcpfreak wrote:
ZONEACE wrote:
inHimshallibe wrote:
FOS ZONEACE
- for basically being less helpful than those he is berating.
bullshit

READ MY FUCKING POSTS IN ISOLATION AND COMPARE THEM TO OTHERS. I'VE BEEN A HELL OF A LOT MORE HELPFUL.

inhim is clearly scum with zwet he's REALLY pushing hard against that lynch for no reason.
zoneace is town

Meta?

Empking · Post Post #741 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:07 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:Inhim is scummy, Emp. Just not as scummy as Kise. Actually you haven't said practically anything about Kise. I see distancing...

I don't dsee the inhim thing and I nothing Kise.

Empking · Post Post #770 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:42 am

Unvote

Vote: Kise

His last few posts reek of scum to me.

Zwets seems like he's acting town to me.

Empking · Post Post #801 (isolation #19) » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:57 am

Zwets: wHAT DO YOU THINK THE CASE ON YOU IS?

Empking · Post Post #812 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:00 am

Unvote

Vote: Kise

In order to make it easier to change if Zwets is a power role. (Though personally I find Kise scummier anyway.)

Empking · Post Post #865 (isolation #21) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 am

Vote: Kise

Empking · Post Post #889 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:13 am

Unvote

Vote: CJ

Empking · Post Post #906 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:50 am

CJMiller wrote:I earned $23,180 N1 and $6550 N2.

How did you earn that much day 1?

Empking · Post Post #957 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:19 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:I'm seeing killa seven as town. From his meta, he posts a heck of a lot more often as scum than as town.

But he was barely posting day 1.

Empking · Post Post #970 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:13 am

Is CJ V/LA

Empking · Post Post #976 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:05 am

al_kohaulec wrote:Don't know if anybody's missing me or not yet, but if nobody noticed, my interest has dropped significantly around the time when we had no mod.

I do hate leaving a game, though, so I'll try to get back into it. The mod seems to be active enough now.

We're lynching CJ.

Empking · Post Post #995 (isolation #27) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:06 am

LL; I helped CJ get lynched, that's something.

It lokes to me that SS is likely scum. (Gut)

Vote: SS

Empking · Post Post #998 (isolation #28) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:25 am

vote: SSF

LL; Even the tracker thought he was the best lynch. I don't think I can be blamed for that.

Empking · Post Post #1002 (isolation #29) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:30 am

Locke Lamora wrote:
Emp, you haven't told me why you're voting SSF.

Yes. Because you asked, didn't you.

Unvote

Vote; LL

Trying to lead the town, trying to suggest there's a cum tell where there wasn't one and listing half the players as scum.

Empking · Post Post #1004 (isolation #30) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:45 am

Locke Lamora wrote:Most players would give reasons when they vote for someone. It's a pretty sensible thing to do. What I'm trying to do is get the town to participate and have a better idea of who's scum and who's not. I believe an Al lynch would be very beneficial for that. Which scum tell did I suggest where there wasn't one?

Not answering questions.

As for listing half the players as scum, the only anti-town role that's dead is the SK. I think it's a fair assumption that a number of players still left in this game are scum.

That doesn't make it useful or not scummy.

Empking · Post Post #1006 (isolation #31) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:54 am

Locke Lamora wrote:You mean where I said you hadn't told me why you voted for SSF? Where did I say that was a scumtell?

I said suggest.

I think when it's D4 and we haven't lynched or killed any of the scumteam, it's useful to keep in mind the fact that the scum:town ratio is now a lot more favourable to the scum. Do you recommend that I forget that I'm looking for several scum players and search for one or two instead?

I think you should focus on one or two instead.

Empking · Post Post #1008 (isolation #32) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:05 am

Locke Lamora wrote:I wasn't suggesting it was a scumtell. I don't think Zwet's scum. I just think it's unhelpful to not give reasons for votes. I've played with you before, I know better than to think that minimal posting is a scumtell in itself.

I am focusing on one or two players. Given the spectacular lack of contributions from most players in this game, I think we can gain valuable information from lynching Al. Do you disagree that it would be useful to know whether the millar13 wagon lynch was supported in favour of a scum lynch?

It would.

But aside for information (a bad reason this late in the game) you gave no reason for him over the over four players you pointed out.

Empking · Post Post #1015 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:07 am

Locke Lamora wrote:Well, if nobody wants to get on board with your lynch then we should definitely lynch Empking so that we hit scum. I believe it's important to get the maximum possible amount of information out of the lynch. I also think that you as scum fits in much better with the voting patterns than you not being scum. It's interesting that you've challenged Zwet's vote on Empking, though; if we do lynch Empking, it's another good reason for lynching you tomorrow.

I don't like this "I'm definitely scum" thing going on.

In any case, I have information that says Empking is scum. Either you believe me, so vote for him, or you think I'm lying, so vote for me. .

Role or analyze?

If its the first I'd like an actual claim. If its the second then you're creating a false dilemma.

Empking · Post Post #1017 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:56 am

Locke Lamora wrote:It's the first. One of my abilities has given me that information. I believe it to be accurate because I also found out that E_K was anti-town on the night she died. Therefore, you're either scum or a second miller.

Flavor behind your investigation?

Empking · Post Post #1026 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:16 am

I'm Pasquale "Patsy" Parisi. Does anybody know if that explains the result?

(I've got nothing in my PM suggesting Ii don't have the interest of the family at heart.)

Empking · Post Post #1029 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:18 am

Locke Lamora wrote:I think being scum explains the result. If you want a show-based reference, I believe Parisi had dubious loyalties. I don't think we should dwell on characters matching alignment too much anyway as I don't believe Elvis' character had much of a role or any animosity towards the DiMeo family.

Inham; Do you honestly believe that LL is a sort of flavour cop yet completely dismisses out of hand the idea that flavour has any effects on his results.

Unvote

Vote: LL

he's pretty obviously false claiming. (When not claiming, he can't keep the mechanics in his false claim in his head.)

Empking · Post Post #1038 (isolation #37) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:16 am

al_kohaulec wrote:
Empking wrote:
Locke Lamora wrote:I think being scum explains the result. If you want a show-based reference, I believe Parisi had dubious loyalties. I don't think we should dwell on characters matching alignment too much anyway as I don't believe Elvis' character had much of a role or any animosity towards the DiMeo family.
Inham; Do you honestly believe that LL is a sort of flavour cop yet completely dismisses out of hand the idea that flavour has any effects on his results.

Unvote

Vote: LL

he's pretty obviously false claiming. (When not claiming, he can't keep the mechanics in his false claim in his head.)
This response seals it for me. Thank you, Emp.

Vote: EmpKing

It's very possible that flavour has an effect on his results. In fact, I expect it. Otherwise, he might as well be a full-fledged cop. I've played in games with roles like his before, and it's perfect for being able to send "guilty" results on town-aligned players or "cleared" results on non-town-aligned players, and yet, still be true cause he's a flavor cop.

So his result was really interesting and great to hear. It was also odd (but adds to his authenticity) that his results on you and the other scum were
different
but realistic. But in the end, while it is a good lead on scum, it's not a sure-fire shot.

However, you first try to paint some arguably reasonable distrust on his role/character. But then you OMGUS him desperately. Your response is very scummy and very unlikely to have come from town.

#

Al its not OMGUS.

Because you and me thought that LL was a flavour cop we all thought that flavour would affect the results. Because LL knows he's not, it didn't occur to him.

What other explanation is there?

(If somebody has a guilty result on you and declares that nothing could make them wrong, voting them is probably the pro-town move IMO.)

Empking · Post Post #1040 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:44 am

Locke Lamora wrote:I think being scum explains the result.

The tone of that is pretty clear on the "nothing can make me wrong" part.

Empking · Post Post #1042 (isolation #39) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:01 am

Locke Lamora wrote:I think being scum does explain the result. Being a miller would also explain the result, but yes, I think being scum is the more likely option. What do you think explains the result?

You're scum.

(I thought it was my role name until it became obvious that you were falseclaiming.)

Empking · Post Post #1044 (isolation #40) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:15 am

Locke Lamora wrote:Does anything else in my play up to the point where I revealed I had that information about you make you think I'm scum?

Not really.

Empking · Post Post #1050 (isolation #41) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:14 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:How many votes to lynch? I trust Locke and will hammer Emp, whom I find scummy for my own separate reasons.

The LL result doesn't affect your thinking at all?

Empking · Post Post #1052 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:13 am

[quote="zwetschenwasser"]LL result?[/quote

LL's result on me.

Empking · Post Post #1068 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:18 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:Perfect to make a semi-masked scum role!

So you think me name claim is true, right?

Empking · Post Post #1071 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:23 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:nlo

So what did you mean by that post I quoted?

Empking · Post Post #1078 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:04 am

Empking wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:nlo
So what did you mean by that post I quoted?

Empking · Post Post #1080 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:39 am

Empking wrote:
Empking wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:nlo
So what did you mean by that post I quoted?

Perfect to make a semi-masked scum role!

Empking · Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:26 pm

More LL votes would be nicer and would be more likely to hit scum.

Empking · Post Post #1084 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:06 am

Locke Lamora wrote:This is getting pretty silly, isn't it? We're actually asking people to come in and vote for one of us and they won't even do that. You wouldn't think it was that much effort. I'll clarify briefly for the particularly lazy:

I have a guilty result on Empking. Empking disagrees and says I'm scum. Either he's a miller or one of us is scum. Place your votes now.

OK, now LL is unarguably scum.

He completely forgot what role he falseclaimed.