Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

Gorrad · Post Post #628 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:13 am

Frik! I didn't know the thread was up. Reading now.

Gorrad · Post Post #634 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:47 am

Pages 1-10 read! Thoughts:

magnus_orion wrote:
Well, it worked, didn't it? With only four other players other than myself, I managed to snap us out of the RVS in less than a few hours. In less than three pages, we were already seriously discussing things. It's also useful in catching scum, and my scum trap seems to have ensnared you and Lamount.
Yes, but my scum traps required me to "fall" for your scum traps. Rather than be the fall-guy, I make somebody else the fall-guy. Its safer.

I don't like this a lick.

On the plus side, I do like his asking for Mastin to be vigged rather than lynched.

magnus_orion wrote:
Other players are not expected to tell you why you are voting for them.
Yes.
However, lamont has stated a policy of not announcing what he finds scummy. I intend to foricibly draw discussion out of him.

Approval!

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You know what I REALLY dislike? L_C asking for a modkill.

His 123 also sucks. Mastin was pretty obvtown, especially given that he was so amazingly off-flavor in his speculation on Shinigami win conditions.

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PhilyEc's initial jump on Mastin reeks of opportunism.

As does Zwet's, though Zwet always plays poorly.

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ZazieR's pretty obviously town.

Gorrad · Post Post #635 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:13 am

Pages 11-15:

Did y'all notice a strangely large amount of coincidence in the VC flavor? There's a good deal that deals with Raye Penber.

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The more I read of L_C, the less I like. The continued use of the word 'Jackass' does NOT help my opinion of him.

Lamont_Cranston wrote:Magnus, this should be
very
clear to you:

scum-like
=/=
scum

necessarily

oO

This goes for Zwet as well, but I say again that this is not out of his character.

Ooh, Benmage too!

ZEEnon, on the other hand, is looking more town than I believe I've ever seen him.

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Spolium wrote:
PhilyEc wrote:I'd rather lynch Misa or Kira rather than Ryuk

MOD wrote:Any scum player possessing a Death Note is Kira. There can be multiple Kiras, even at the same time, and there even can be no Kiras.
It seems reasonable to assume that Phily is not scum. Yay!

This seems like a false conclusion, simply because Phily could EASILY be saying that just to WIFOM.

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GAH! Jester speculation! DIEDIEDIEDIE!!!!!!!!!

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Ooooh, Dayvig! That means one of the people on Mastin's wagon is town. The others are probably scum.

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I'd also like to throw out (to see what people think) the possibility of a mass flavor-claim. When I ran the Death Note MINI, I had trouble finding enough protown roles. I imagine this mod may have had similar issues.

Last section(s) done later. Have a D&D session to get to and a few other games to catch up on before I leave.

Gorrad · Post Post #871 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:03 am

I don't suppose anyone could just sum up pages 16-present? My ADD's kicking in something harsh. I need to get on my meds again...

Gorrad · Post Post #875 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:10 am

Kise wrote:Zaz... do you believe that all killers in this gave are anti-town?

@Gorrad - Why did you want a flavor claim?

I said. When I made the Death Note mini, I was VERY hard pressed to find protown roles. There aren't a lot of them. So I'm assuming that Phate had the same issue.

Votecount
mykonian - 4 (LlamaFluff,

cateraction

, Spolium, ortolan)
zwetschenwasser - 4 (populartajo, Kise, Albert B. Rampage, Benmage)
magnus_orion - 2 (

ZazieR

, mykonian)
Kise - 1 (Starbuck)
Kairyuu - 1 (Lamont_Cranston)
Spolium - 1 (Kmd4390)
Lamont_Cranston - 1 (magnus_orion)
ZEEnon - 1 (WeyounsLastClone)
Not voting: zwetschenwasser, Kairyuu, Jebus, Budja, Gorrad,

semioldguy

, Seraphim, Stephoscope, ZEEnon, PhilyEc

Ryuzaki... I'm sorry, but to me it looks you're doing this because you don't want to admit that you were wrong about Light being Kira.

I figured you might think that.

With 25 alive, it's 13 to lynch.

Gorrad · Post Post #879 (isolation #5) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:25 am

Names only.

And I recieved a prod when I first posted, no others.

Gorrad · Post Post #885 (isolation #6) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:01 am

What, you'd prefer if I asked for a name and picture claim? : D

Gorrad · Post Post #889 (isolation #7) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:09 am

Kmd4390 wrote:
Gorrad wrote:What, you'd prefer if I asked for a name and picture claim? : D
I'd prefer if you didn't ask for a name claim in a game with a Theme where your name and face being known by the killer is enough for you to die.

You want I should go first as a sign of good faith?

Gorrad · Post Post #892 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:12 am

I think the setup is breakable, and I think it makes no sense at all (in a gameplay sense, not a flavor sense) for an anti-town role to have to rely on rolenames to kill, so I'm not worrying about that.

Gorrad · Post Post #901 (isolation #9) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:29 am

KMD, where is it against the rules?

I think it would make no sense to need rolename because that would SIGNIFICANTLY cripple any anti-town group. Especially if a hypothetical namecop died.

I think the setup is breakable because think: The number of characters not clearly scum (allied with Light or Mello) is notably small. The SPK, Near's group, L, Watari, Light's family, and a handful of others (Lind L. Taylor, Raye and his SO, and Hideki Ryuga spring to mind). Could YOU get 25 names from that? I know I'd be hard-pressed to do so.

Gorrad · Post Post #904 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:14 am

Oh. It DOES say you aren't allowed to break the game. Darnit!

On the other hand, I'm taking that as proof that I'm right.

Zazie, how many of those are actually protown?

Gorrad · Post Post #919 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:55 am

I'm lost. Who claimed/fakeclaimed what now? Recall I haven't read 16-36.

Gorrad · Post Post #921 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:58 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:I fakeclaimed fakeclaiming after I real claimed.

I see. Why?

Gorrad · Post Post #929 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:32 am

WeyounsLastClone wrote:He could've/should've known people would attack him on this [...] and it increases my suspicion on Gorrad.

I'm afraid I don't see how these two clauses work together.

Gorrad · Post Post #1031 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:23 pm

MrBuddyLee wrote:
vote: Gorrad

Good to see you too, MBL. Remember PvN mafia? Goooood times.

Gorrad · Post Post #1135 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:05 am

mykonian wrote:I can see gorrad, seems to be a lurker.

I'm trying to keep up with this game, and failing miserably. Give me a bit.

Gorrad · Post Post #1137 (isolation #16) » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:16 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:
Gorrad wrote:
mykonian wrote:I can see gorrad, seems to be a lurker.
I'm trying to keep up with this game, and failing miserably. Give me a bit.
Jebus alt?

Don't insult me.

Gorrad · Post Post #1169 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:42 pm

Y'know, I REALLY didn't like L_C in my readthrough of the first 16 pages. He's got my

Vote: Lamont_Cranston

.

Gorrad · Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:21 am

My wagon makes me lol. Seriously, do y'all even think before blindly jumping?

Gorrad · Post Post #1262 (isolation #19) » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:20 pm

When I suggested the nameclaim, I was not even considering the scum's MO. I was trying to break the game based on the game I had run where names were not essential. With that as my precedant, it didn't occur to me that in this game names may actually be required to kill. When I realised my error, I made the post where I jokingly suggested a name and picture claim to show that I understood where what I had said previously could be taken wrong.

One thing to dispell those who think I may have a win condition to get name claims: Would a name claim-suggesting WC not be against the no game breaking rule? It's very presence means that said WC cannot exist.

Gorrad · Post Post #1301 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:15 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:NFO! LC IS TOWNDAMMIT

Wow! Y'know, this statement has completely changed my mind. L_C is completely town, and I owe my knowledge of this purely to Zwet's ace scumhunting skills. Zwet, you are a scholar to be able to post such a convincing case against someone so CLEARLY SCUM!!!!!!!

Gorrad · Post Post #1331 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:21 am

ZazieR wrote:@Gorrad
You already stated suspicions towards Lamont when you first read. But a lot later, you decided to vote him based upon these reasons. Why the wait?

I was hoping to get more read or summarized in that time. I didn't know what had gone on for the last 20 pages, so I didn't know if there was a better target. When it was clear that no summarizing would be done and I had no time for the last 20, and it was clear he hadn't claimed or been cleared (when people started voting for him again. I thought he might have been when I saw that the scummiest player had so few votes on page 36), I moved my vote over.

Gorrad · Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:13 pm

Kmd4390 wrote:If it comes down to Myko or Lamont, I'll vote Myko. Lamont is so townie it's not even funny.

Wowza. Between you and Zwet, who could possibly stand against the tide of logic and remain voting for L_C?

(Spoiler: Me!)

Gorrad · Post Post #1387 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:48 am

ZazieR wrote:
@Gorrad

Please explain the following.
Gorrad wrote:When I suggested the nameclaim, I was not even considering the scum's MO. I was trying to break the game based on the game I had run where names were not essential. With that as my precedant, it didn't occur to me that in this game names may actually be required to kill. When I realised my error, I made the post where I jokingly suggested a name and picture claim to show that I understood where what I had said previously could be taken wrong.
You're defending yourself against Kevin's accusations by saying that you realised later why a name claim could be bad. According to you, you showed this in the post in which you joked about a name and picture claim.
So I want to hear an explanation for these posts that followed said 'joke'post:
Gorrad wrote:
Kmd4390 wrote:
Gorrad wrote:What, you'd prefer if I asked for a name and picture claim? : D
I'd prefer if you didn't ask for a name claim in a game with a Theme where your name and face being known by the killer is enough for you to die.
You want I should go first as a sign of good faith?

Gorrad wrote:I think the setup is breakable, and I think it makes no sense at all (in a gameplay sense, not a flavor sense) for an anti-town role to have to rely on rolenames to kill, so I'm not worrying about that.

Gorrad wrote:I think it would make no sense to need rolename because that would SIGNIFICANTLY cripple any anti-town group. Especially if a hypothetical namecop died.

You misunderstand. I said 'I made the post where I jokingly suggested a name and picture claim to show that I understood where what I had said previously

could be taken

wrong', not that I thought it was a bad idea. While I saw that people thought I was looking for names to help scum, the possibility was so remote to me that I didn't see it as good cause to stop.

ZazieR wrote:
Gorrad wrote:One thing to dispell those who think I may have a win condition to get name claims: Would a name claim-suggesting WC not be against the no game breaking rule? It's very presence means that said WC cannot exist.
Why was this brought up exactly?
Also, it's very likely not a possible win con. Each shinigami has Shingami Eyes, so they can find each name by theirselves. Add that they can't die, so they would only have to investigate those who would most likely survive to endgame.
If scum would have it, it would be pretty soon game over and easy for scum to win. Besides, scum have most of the time the opposite of the town wincon, which would probably result into something like:
'You win when there's at least one Death Note in your posession when town can't stop your group anymore.'

Because some people had brought up the possibility of it being a WC.

Gorrad · Post Post #1423 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:18 pm

Kairyuu, while I do fully believe Mastin was killed by a townie, it is illogical to rule out a Shinigami's kill.

Consider: Shinigami are NOT anti-town, they're third-party with a unique win condition for each. Who is to say that one of those win conditions is not furthered by killing scum? Also, the Death Note allows people to specify kill's MO. I think writing 'Mastin plugged full of holes' would be easy enough.

Gorrad · Post Post #1459 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:49 am

ZazieR wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Kairyuu, while I do fully believe Mastin was killed by a townie, it is illogical to rule out a Shinigami's kill.

Consider: Shinigami are NOT anti-town, they're third-party with a unique win condition for each. Who is to say that one of those win conditions is not furthered by killing scum? Also, the Death Note allows people to specify kill's MO. I think writing 'Mastin plugged full of holes' would be easy enough.
Wait. Shinigami kill? Why do you only mention Shinigami kill and not scum kill?
Also, Misa Misa *shrug* was important to Rem, and Ryuk wanted to see what a human would do with a Death Note, so to me, it seems very unlikely that Rem or Ryuk wants to kill scum.
Which would only leave Shidoh.
So it seems very unlikely that such wincon exists.

It wouldn't be scum because, as stated Mastin was under extreme suspicion. It would make no sense for scum to kill. Also, don't make the mistake of only thinking of the three. Just because Gelus is the mod doesn't mean there's not a character with that flavor, and there ARE other shinigami shown in the universe.

Gorrad · Post Post #1462 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:17 am

Benmage, I have turned my monitor upside down, and still it denies my attempts to find a grain of logic in your post. Are you honestly saying that Zazie is scum for posting too many significant posts?

Gorrad · Post Post #1464 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:46 am

What the fuck, MBL! I remember you posting /significantly/ better content in PvN. ZWET is posting more content than you!

Gorrad · Post Post #1534 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:55 pm

Gods, Phate, that sucks! I'm sorry something like this happened.

Vote: Lamont_Cranston

For those who saw not, votes were reset.

Gorrad · Post Post #1609 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:47 pm

Vi! Good to see you.

Gorrad · Post Post #1651 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:53 pm

Frankly, I don't think the Myk case holds much water. If y'all want to lynch him, so be it, but I wash my hands of it.

Gorrad · Post Post #1658 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:27 pm

There's a bloody good reason I'm not voting either of the two leads. I think both the wagons suck eggs, and one of them is scum driven. I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something here that everyone else seems to see. I just would SERIOUSLY prefer a L_C lynch.

And yeah, KMD's pretty much summed up my thoughts. The wagon sucks. Tomorrow, regardless of the outcome, I want it remembered that I had no part in it. If y'all want to lynch, be my guest, I won't stop y'all. Obviously y'all see SOMETHING I don't, and maybe y'all are right. But I'm not involved.

Gorrad · Post Post #1661 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:37 pm

ortolan wrote:Hmm. That's still scummy.

Elaboration?

Gorrad · Post Post #1668 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:08 pm

ZazieR wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Also, don't make the mistake of only thinking of the three. Just because Gelus is the mod doesn't mean there's not a character with that flavor, and there ARE other shinigami shown in the universe.
But those were the main ones. Others included Gelus, the King and one other who gave another human a death note in the manga. Those are to me the only ones who besides Shidoh, Ryuk and Rem are possible to be in the game.
But still, none of them seem to me that they would have a wincon in which they need to kill scum. And that was what I wanted to say.

Sidoh was with Mello for a good portion, and therefore had motive to kill Kira.

And yes, I know /precisely/ how I'm sounding. I sound like scum doing blatant distancing. I knew that's how I'd come off when I first said it.

Gorrad · Post Post #1676 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:36 pm

ortolan wrote:Gorrad:

Kmd4390 (1664) wrote:
Gorrad wrote: And yeah, KMD's pretty much summed up my thoughts. The wagon sucks. Tomorrow, regardless of the outcome, I want it remembered that I had no part in it. If y'all want to lynch, be my guest, I won't stop y'all. Obviously y'all see SOMETHING I don't, and maybe y'all are right. But I'm not involved.
Why is a pretty decent player sounding like newbscum....
Those are pretty much my thoughts. Only newb scum say "please don't associate me with this lynch (of a townie)". Why did you feel the need to point out that you specifically disliked the myk lynch. Why is you not supporting the wagon more important than the other people now voting myk?

Because I've seen this sort of thing happen time and again.

1) I don't like a wagon
2) I don't comment on it
3) People yell at me for lurking
4) I'm suddenly everyones #1 scum

So now I'm stating precisely why I'm not commenting.

In addition, let me clarify: I do not see the case, but considering how many people DO there's a decent chance that it's an error on my part. So I'm not supporting it because I don't think the case is a good one, and I'm not going against it because if I do and he flips scum, then that's major scum points.

Did I word that in a way that makes sense? It does to me at 2:30 AM.

Gorrad · Post Post #1680 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:49 pm

ZazieR wrote:
Gorrad wrote:
ZazieR wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Also, don't make the mistake of only thinking of the three. Just because Gelus is the mod doesn't mean there's not a character with that flavor, and there ARE other shinigami shown in the universe.
But those were the main ones. Others included Gelus, the King and one other who gave another human a death note in the manga. Those are to me the only ones who besides Shidoh, Ryuk and Rem are possible to be in the game.
But still, none of them seem to me that they would have a wincon in which they need to kill scum. And that was what I wanted to say.
Sidoh was with Mello for a good portion, and therefore had motive to kill Kira.

And yes, I know /precisely/ how I'm sounding. I sound like scum doing blatant distancing. I knew that's how I'd come off when I first said it.
I already said that it would only leave Shidoh, which makes such a wincon very unlikely. Especially when a Death Note gets destroyed when an anti-Kira role has it. Therefore, Shidoh is probably not with Mello as Mello wanted to capture Kira in the serie.

And why did you add the final part?

The final part was not directed at you, but I dislike making several posts to address different people. It clutters the thread too much.

Gorrad · Post Post #1827 (isolation #36) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:33 am

I completely believe Mastin's claim.

Gorrad · Post Post #1828 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:33 am

Er....Myko's claim.

Gorrad · Post Post #1830 (isolation #38) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:36 am

That's the plan.

Gorrad · Post Post #1835 (isolation #39) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:34 am

Benmage wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Er....Myko's claim.
Odd… did you somehow expect this claim or something… I know you felt him innocent, but myk being the day vig who killed mastin just checks out for you 100%...

I expected the claim, but not from Myko.

Gorrad · Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:26 am

Benmage wrote:
Gorrad wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Er....Myko's claim.
Odd… did you somehow expect this claim or something… I know you felt him innocent, but myk being the day vig who killed mastin just checks out for you 100%...
I expected the claim, but not from Myko.
Are you saying here that you expected Mastin's killer to claim?

Earlier you also were pretty certain of Myko's innocence so you must of expected his eventual claim (as he hung at L-1ish) to be pro-town, but you didn't expect the two claims to be the same person i.e. myko....yet you totally believe Myko's claim. Am i right here?

This is correct.

Gorrad · Post Post #1885 (isolation #41) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:55 am

Myko, would you mind giving your flavor?

Gorrad · Post Post #1889 (isolation #42) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:17 am

Myko is, quite literally, on the verge of death. If he has anything to lose by claiming, I'd like to know.

Gorrad · Post Post #1890 (isolation #43) » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:17 am

EBWOP: Nameclaiming

Gorrad · Post Post #2054 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:11 pm

People seem to be of a very split mind regarding L_C. Can I see someone's case as to why he's protown?

Gorrad · Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:37 am

Hey Myk, does your role give you any kind of hint as to how many Notes are in the game?

Also, I'd like to double-secret confirm: You needed absolutely nothing by way of role name to kill, correct?

Gorrad · Post Post #2108 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:59 pm

We win when all the death notes have been possessed, at some point, by the town.

Mykonian wins when, at the end of D7, a note is possessed by him.

Maybe it's me. It could just be me. but it seems like those two win conditions, i'unno...

COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CONTRADICT!

However, Mykonian now has a vested interest in lynching scum, as in doing so he has a shot at getting another note. So I'm all in favor of trusting him.

Gorrad · Post Post #2110 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:26 pm

Vote: Magnus_orion

Scum can hand off death notes? News to me!

Gorrad · Post Post #2114 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:50 pm

magnus_orion wrote:@gorrad: This was in Myk's death note:
At night, you may anonymously give away your Death Note to any player. You may also choose to destroy it.

With a Death Note, you may kill once per night. You may choose whether to have the player die immediately or after a certain amount of posts, and in what way. If no specifications are given, the kill defaults to immediate and death of a heart attack.

If a human obtains a Death Note and he already has one, he must immediately give it away to a player of his choice.

The same rule applies to Shinigami; however, Shinigami wait until the end of the night to give it away.

Yes. Shinigami can give it away, that's very in-character of them. I want to know how you can say that scum can.

Gorrad · Post Post #2116 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:55 pm

The last line, naturally, refers to the third line, not the first.

Gorrad · Post Post #2120 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:18 pm

Unvote

I understand the source of confusion.

Gorrad · Post Post #2122 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:20 pm

Mod: Can you please include Mykonian's revealed role by his name in the first post?

I can. I'm not going to do it however as Mykonian isn't dead. I am also not altering his color in vote counts. Again, he is not dead or otherwise removed from the game.

Gorrad · Post Post #2150 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:09 pm

She's a HUGE part of the movies.

Votecount
Lamont_Cranston - 4 (WeyounsLastClone, populartajo, magnus_orion, Kairyuu)
Stephoscope - 2 (LlamaFluff, Kmd4390)
Benmage - 1 (ZEEnon)
ZEEnon - 1 (Lamont_Cranston)
Kise - 1 (Vi)
Vi - 1 (ortolan)
Kmd4390 - 1 (Stephoscope)
Not voting: zwetschenwasser, mykonian, Skruffs, Starbuck, Kise, Seraphim, ThAdmiral, Gorrad

Fine, I'll do it. I don't like you, Light Yagami. So even if I extend your life, I won't die. I'll kill L for you. L mans nothing to me.

With 21 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

Gorrad · Post Post #2153 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:13 pm

Mod: What would happen if day were to end before a number of posts stated in a delayed Note kill was reached?

The set condition wouldn't have been met, and the kill wouldn't occur. However, the kill would still be 'ticking', so to speak, and could occur on subsequent days. If, for example, I submitted "Player X drowns after Player Y's 42nd post from this submission", and Player Y only posted 40 times during that day, Player X wouldn't die from the Death Note that day. He would, however, die after Player Y's 2nd post on the next day, because the '42nd' clause would be fulfilled.

Gorrad · Post Post #2163 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:05 pm

Vi, according to 2041, I'm NOT scummy now. How does that fit in with your saying I always look it?

The reason I "always look scummy" is that not doing so is never top of my to-do list. Catching scum is. Been that way since my first game here. That doesn't mean I don't care about it at all, my earlier posts today should prove that, but it always takes the backseat.

Gorrad · Post Post #2165 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:13 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Vi, according to 2041, I'm NOT scummy now. How does that fit in with your saying I always look it?

The reason I "always look scummy" is that not doing so is never top of my to-do list. Catching scum is. Been that way since my first game here. That doesn't mean I don't care about it at all, my earlier posts today should prove that, but it always takes the backseat.
Gorrad, you're doing fine. Your scum image is intact.

Oh hardy-har-har. : D

You're not so bad in that department yourself.

Gorrad · Post Post #2174 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:41 pm

MBL's posting is out of his character. Especially given his insane gambits and long posts throughout PvN mafia.

Gorrad · Post Post #2203 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:52 pm

I don't quite follow. Someone care to explain to me why that quote is scummy? I can see bad logic...

Gorrad · Post Post #2206 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:23 pm

Kairyuu...Did you honestly just say that we don't need to kill scum?

Yes, it's important to kill Note holders, but who can be a Note holder? Scum. Scum and Shinigami. So guess what, pal. We kill scum, then when we do hit a Death Note, the odds of us picking it up and destroying are simply that much higher. If we JUST went for notes now, then Scum could easily hop on and pick them up with no one being the wiser.

In other news, I dig what it's about now, thanks L_C.

Vote: Kise

. Kairyuu is next on the list for largely the same reason. L_C, congrats, you're now third.

Gorrad · Post Post #2232 (isolation #59) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:22 pm

I am nigh-certain that Mastin's death was the result of a dayvig. I'm mulling over the possibility of it being cateraction. Given the final book, it wouldn't be out of Matsuda's character at all.

Gorrad · Post Post #2259 (isolation #60) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:03 am

Hmm. Four Deathnotes so far.

Gorrad · Post Post #2263 (isolation #61) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:30 am

What townie would kill someone off before a claim? For that matter, what scum would kill someone that close to lynch?

I'm ruling that as a delayed Note kill with /impeccible/ timing.

Gorrad · Post Post #2278 (isolation #62) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:41 am

Benmage wrote:
Starbuck wrote:I actually didn't realize it was L-1 or I wouldn't have voted and given him a chance to claim.

The thread was moving pretty quick about that time.
Pay attention before voting, what if you had hammered…
Kairyuu wrote: @myko: Just to confirm, you were lying about killing Mastin, correct?
This.

Gorrad wrote:What townie would kill someone off before a claim? For that matter, what scum would kill someone that close to lynch?

I'm ruling that as a delayed Note kill with /impeccible/ timing.

Kairyuu wrote:@Kmd: Aye, but Mastin was the only other daykill. I highly doubt that Gorrad is right, especially since the gunshot flavor is consistant with Mastin's death.
Was Mastin the leading vote at the time of his death? Maybe the day-vig has the option, maybe like an executioner(maybe even a scum role)…to kill the leading lynchee and reset the day.

Geez, but again that would be counter to both scum and town WCs. It'd have to be a Shinigami or other 3rd party.

Gorrad · Post Post #2297 (isolation #63) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:45 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:Yes well deliberate lurking wouldn't have anything to do with it of course...

You have a reputation of being an excellent player. I'd wish you'd post more...

My thoughts precisely.

Gorrad · Post Post #2302 (isolation #64) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 am

MBL, which is more important: Survival or finding Scum?

Gorrad · Post Post #2304 (isolation #65) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:31 am

I've stated repeatedly that I find him /quite/ scummy. There are points where I agree with him, such as you needing to post more, but that doesn't make his neccessarily more town in my eyes.

Gorrad · Post Post #2305 (isolation #66) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:31 am

EBWOP: Make HIM

Gorrad · Post Post #2327 (isolation #67) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:59 pm

Woah!

Hey guys, did you know that Skruffs is in this game?

Gorrad · Post Post #2331 (isolation #68) » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:04 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Woah!

Hey guys, did you know that Skruffs is in this game?
Is he posting like mad in another game?

No. No he is not. That was genuine surprise on my part.

Gorrad · Post Post #2372 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:20 am

I thought this was already done, but

Vote: Lamont_Cranston

To be honest? I don't think his case on MBL is that bad. But throw it in with the rest of his play and it's more than enough to warrant a lynch.

Gorrad · Post Post #2397 (isolation #70) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:55 am

How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

Gorrad · Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:49 am

Ok, I'm sorry, but that right there tweaks one of my huge grammar nazi nerves.

Could've is should for 'Could Have'. Could of is just how it sounds. It's not grammar in any sense of the word. It's spelling out the mispronunciation of a contraction.

Grr.

Gorrad · Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:37 pm

He posted the same thing in another game, MBL.

Gorrad · Post Post #2520 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:42 am

I understand the Steph wagon, but from what I can see it's due to lurking and bad play, rather than L_C's which is based on scummy play. I'm happy with my vote.

Gorrad · Post Post #2523 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:41 am

It is not enough to redeem him.

Gorrad · Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:53 pm

Flameaxe.

Gorrad · Post Post #2541 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:38 pm

I disagree. Flameaxe is normally seriously scummy, yet so many people know that that he's hell to lynch ><.

Gorrad · Post Post #2619 (isolation #77) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:07 am

I don't think there are any millers in this game.

Unvote, Vote: MafiaSSK

.

Gorrad · Post Post #2663 (isolation #78) » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:13 pm

If Aiber was good at his job, and a miller is someone who seems to be bad when they're actually good. Tell me, what kind of conman would TRY to have people get a guilty on him?

Gorrad · Post Post #2738 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:55 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:
Lamont_Cranston wrote:What doesn't fit is Aiber is supposed to be
helping
the cops? Does a miller with no power sound like a role that is helping the cops to you? Also Orto deliberately stalled in N0 and came in saying, "Whoops, I forgot".

His miller claim only halfway fits the flavor. That's why I'm still voting for him and am calling for the hammer.
Fine. I'll reveal the rest of the role. If L dies then I can talk to Near,Mello and Watari.

Woah. Woah woah woah. Woah.

MELLO?!?!?!?

No. No chance, no way, no how. If Mello's a town role in this game, I will eat my hat.

Also, one teeny-tiny detail: Do you KNOW who those three are? If so, do NOT FOR THE LOVE OF THE GODS SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!

Gorrad · Post Post #2745 (isolation #80) » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:27 am

Near wanted to catch Kira, sure, but he also wanted to kill Near and all his posse. He was the SK in my mini and I'd be shocked if he was town here. A townie talking to him is absurd.

Also, I'm certain of this, Aiber never once contacted Near or Mello in the series.

Gorrad · Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:28 am

You assume correctly.

Mogi and Soichiro would be more likely, as they were alive during the Mello arc.

But he also controlled the Death Note to his own purposes. Do you think that he would be the type to, like town, destroy it immediately upon finding it?

Gorrad · Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:45 am

We are talking about the game. So if you're saying that he is iffy at best to destroy it, that means his being town is iffy at best, and by association SSK's claim is. For him to know who an anti-town is by masonic means is a near-impossibility.

Gorrad · Post Post #2755 (isolation #83) » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:42 pm

If SSK is telling the truth, Mello is town. Mello is very likely not town, so SSK is very likely lying.

Gorrad · Post Post #2758 (isolation #84) » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:54 pm

Because Mello's so BLATANTLY anti-town that if he knows who Mello is, it would be unfair (As it would be an auto-outting of a scum role). If the mod wanted a role that would auto-out a scum role, he'd have SSK just know who Mello was instead of masonizing.

Also, all this pales in comparison to the fact that there's no way in the nine rings that Aiber has this role. It's COMPLETELY out of his character.

Gorrad · Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:11 pm

But we can have any number of kiras at the same time. Kira is anyone with a Note who doesn't destroy it. Who's to say Mello isn't counted as a potential?

Gorrad · Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:12 pm

EBWOP: And that STILL doesn't change the fact that it makes absolutely NO SENSE with Aiber's role.

Gorrad · Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:44 pm

...Thanks for that brilliant deduction, Starbuck.

Gorrad · Post Post #2824 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:11 pm

Steph, I want to make sure I understand your role.

1) Every night you choose one person to join a masonry.
2) At any time you choose, you may see the full role PM of any member of the masonry.

Is this correct?

Gorrad · Post Post #2838 (isolation #89) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:26 am

Stephoscope wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Steph, I want to make sure I understand your role.

1) Every night you choose one person to join a masonry.
2) At any time you choose, you may see the full role PM of any member of the masonry.

Is this correct?
Every night I CAN pick someone to join the discussion if I want to. Also at night, I can choose an existing member of the discussion to investigate, and yes, I will see his or her full role PM.

Hold the phone, here. So how could you have seen someone else's role? If you invited someone N1, obviously they wouldn't join until night actions were resolved, and you said you can't investigate at night.

Gorrad · Post Post #2839 (isolation #90) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:28 am

In other words...

Gorrad · Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:23 am

SSK is today's kill. I am not debating this.

I think Seph's acting in a very anti-town way, but I must say that the contradiction is so flippin' obvious that the likelihood of the claim being fake is not very high.

Gorrad · Post Post #2869 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:08 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:So once I'm lynched and proven town, then you guys will lynch Stephy right?

SSK, if you're town, then it's confirmed that L, Mello, and Watari are all in the game and town. Why the hell would we lynch a claimed L if you flip town?

Gorrad · Post Post #2871 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:38 pm

It's conceivable. As I said, though, SSK's blatantly lying.

Gorrad · Post Post #2873 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:44 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Gorrad wrote:It's conceivable. As I said, though, SSK's blatantly lying.
How is it conceivable if they both have claimed power roles and are saying the OPPOSITE things?? CONTRADICTING each other!?

Show me the contradictions. Steph has said that nothing in his role supports SSK's claim. That is hardly a contradiction. Something can be unsupported and still be true.

Gorrad · Post Post #2875 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:39 pm

Yes? Where's the contradiction? Is it impossible for such a group to form after L's death and he simply has no knowledge of it?

I find such a thing unlikely, but a contradiction implies an impossibility, where only one or the other can be true.

Votecount
MafiaSSK -10 (Stephoscope, Gorrad, populartajo, Starbuck, Benmage, LlamaFluff, Kmd4390, Kairyuu, magnus_orion, WeyounsLastClone)
Stephoscope -2 (Lamont Cranston, MafiaSSK)
Starbuck -2 (Vi, ThAdmiral)
Lamont - 1 (MrBuddyLee)
LlamaFluff - 1 (Zwetchenwasser)
NoLynch -1 (mykonian)
Not voting: Millar13, Seraphim, Sir Tornado

I told you, the gods are on my side...

With 20 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

Gorrad · Post Post #2879 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm

Benmage wrote:So...hypothetically if shingami were to hammer themselves, would they be in the runnings for the dropped DN?

Aye. What I want to know is what happens if a townie is on his own lynch wagon. Is he included in the odds of finding/destroying the note?

Gorrad · Post Post #2988 (isolation #97) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:29 pm

Right. Consider:

Mello, Watari, and Near are not in a discussion group. None of them (including L) know now, but when L dies the three of them become masons with SSK. This is in SSK's PM and his PM only.

How is this impossible?

Gorrad · Post Post #2989 (isolation #98) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:30 pm

Also, I'm keeping my vote on SSK. I personally make it a habit to claim town until my death sequence as scum, so that no one can try and pry more information out of me. I imagine this is what he was doing.

Gorrad · Post Post #2992 (isolation #99) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:32 pm

Don't get me wrong, Llama, I don't believe it's the case either. But it /IS/ a possibility. And, as the Phoenix Wright games love to teach us, a verdict cannot be given until each and every possibility is ruled out.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:18 am

Vote: SSK

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:33 pm

Did NO ONE stop and think that maybe, just maybe, SSK was the /ONLY/ person whose role mentioned this group? Gods above and below...

What makes me do a double take, though, is that this means Mello is a townie. Geez...well, mod knows best. Such is life. And Death. Note.

I'm going to start off with a nice, solid

Vote: L_C

. You should have died two days ago.

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:50 pm

OMG LIGHT YAGAMI IS KIRA!!!!

Vote: Lamont_Cranston

Face facts, dude. SSK simply didn't know what he was talking about. He called BS without a solid base to solidify his own claim.

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:20 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:No scum in their right mind would claim recruiting mason, it's ridiculously easy to disprove.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And before the idea of a cult is given, keep in mind that once one of them is killed by NK or other means, should they be cult the rest will follow suit.

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:23 pm

Lamont, where does it figure in to your calculations that Zazie has successfully, so Steph says, been recruited?

WeyounsLastClone -1 (Kmd4390)
Stephoscope -1 (Lamont_Cranston)
Lamont_Cranston -1 (Gorrad)
Not voting: zwetschenwasser, Kairyuu, mykonian, Kmd4390, populartajo, MrBuddyLee, Gorrad, millar13, Starbuck, DeathNote, Stephoscope, xylthixlm, LlamaFluff, WeyounsLastClone, Lamont_Cranston

How about a human using the notebook and then losing their memory of doing so?

With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch.

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:39 pm

Oh, Zazie died. Missed that part.

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:40 pm

Lamont, so far the "truth" is four to one against you, counting me, Xyl, Tajo, and WLC.

WLC, where am I being too bold and how is it a scumtell?

Gorrad · Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:42 pm

A whole lot of untrue things sure are obvious to you where to others they are not.

Gorrad · Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:01 am

Kairyuu, go to the sign-up thread for this game. There you will see that is specifically states that this game will be funky in regards to night communication. Given that, I see absolutely no reason to assume that scum can Night Talk (which, if you think about it, would fit inw ith DN flavor), and I'm perfectly willing to accept the possibility that even if they can in general, something stopped L_C from doing so last night.

Gorrad · Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:31 pm

/eyeroll. We have a dayvig. Myko is lying about the D1 kill, trying to out the real one.

Gorrad · Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:48 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Gelus wrote:
With 26 alive, it's 14 to lynch.

Go!

Gelus wrote:
Rules of Death wrote:
At night, you may anonymously give away your Death Note to any player. You may also choose to destroy it.

With a Death Note, you may kill
once per night
. You may choose whether to have the player die immediately or after a certain amount of posts, and in what way. If no specifications are given, the kill defaults to immediate and death of a heart attack.

If a human obtains a Death Note and he already has one, he must immediately give it away to a player of his choice.

The same rule applies to Shinigami; however, Shinigami wait until the end of the night to give it away.

The game started with day
. According to the Rules of Death, Death Notes kill at night, so there couldn't be a Note kill day 1. The day 1 kill was not from a Death Note. If mykonian claimed that kill, he was lying.
There was a N0 where night chat could take place. If you check the first post you can see that N0 chat was extended until everyone confirmed.
Technically, the game started with a N0 chat.

Maybe I missed this, but where did you see that there was any talk N0?

Gorrad · Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm

More importantly:

Mod: Can you please confirm that you stated

in the thread

that there would be a N0 chatting period for those who could night chat?

I never stated that there was a N0 chatting period, because there wasn't a N0. I did state in the thread that those who could communicate at night could do so during the pregame confirmation phase.

Gorrad · Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:06 am

Lamont: suck it up, take it like a man, and admit you're wrong with dignity.

Gorrad · Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:38 pm

Light killed him in a very nice montage scene when he killed L.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:22 am

DeathNote wrote:Yeah him and that other girl.... what was her name?

Wedy.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:31 am

Watari does. He acts as a butler and assistant to L. And Aiber is there, but doesn't really have a lot to do with L. L sends him out on a mission and from there they don't have a lot of contact.

Mello and Near, however, are never mentioned before L's death.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:12 pm

Gods above and below...

Unvote

I'm Mogi. 1-shot daycop. Lamont's town ><. I get a percentage based on how likely they are to be Kira-aligned. Lamont has a 1% chance.

Kairyuu: According to you, Lamont didn't night talk, and that made him assured town. But now you're saying that the note was given to Mykonian because he's the one scum knew to be scum. So, if the scum can night talk, why couldn't Vi have given his note to someone else? Either there are non-night-talking scum, or he could have just given it to a scumbuddy.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:20 pm

While that's rolefishing, it's rolefishing for baddie roles, so I'll let it slide.

In my game, Misa was a scum cop, Mello was the SK, Teru was a traitor and Takada was a RB.

Gorrad · Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:23 pm

Above was directed at DeathNote.

And obviously Mello is a third-party daykiller. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say he's a SK who either gets extra powers or has a WC that's note-dependant. Again, Myk was trying to out the daykiller by claiming that role. Why would a Shinigami kill constantly with bullet flavor? It's Mello, plain and simple.

Gorrad · Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:17 am

Yes, precisely 1%.

Gorrad · Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:48 pm

Tajo: I'm a daycop. I said my result as soon as I had it.

Llama: Kira, not pro-Kira. The way I see it, there were probably three outcomes. 1% is town, a middling percent is pro-Kira but noteless, a high percent is Kira.

Gorrad · Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:51 pm

I am V/LA at the moment, but a few notes:

1) Zwet is an idiot for the inbox mess

2) Zwet is ALSO an idiot for outing members of the Steph fun Club

3) The bullets are obviously Mello. No other character would fit. And while yes, the bullets COULD belong to a Shinigami, then why would they constantly target antitown? Mello's a day-SK. He offed Light and snagged the note for himself. A lynch is the most powerful weapon the town has. We should use it to HUNT scum. When numbers start to slim, then we can go for the confirmed baddies in hopes that they have notes.

4) Also, assume that the bullets are NOT Myk's. If that is the case, our mysterious daykiller, obviously hunting for antitown folks and therefore notebooks, will target Myk next. If Myk was given the note by MO, then, as MO is dead, he has nowhere else safe to send it, and is a surefire next target.

Gorrad · Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:15 pm

Gorrad wrote:4) Also, assume that the bullets are NOT Myk's. If that is the case, our mysterious daykiller, obviously hunting for antitown folks and therefore notebooks, will target Myk next. If Myk was given the note by MO, then, as MO is dead, he has nowhere else safe to send it, and is a surefire next target.

This should say Vi, not MO. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Gorrad · Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:03 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:Wait. Gorrad, your result is based on whether they are Kira-aligned, right? It doesn't distinguish between town and shinigami?

This is correct. It is, to my knowledge, purely based on if someone's name is that yellowy orange on the death list.

Gorrad · Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:15 am

Vote: KoC

That is one of the WORST/scummy claims of suspicion I've ever read.

Gorrad · Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:52 pm

Knight of Cydonia wrote:Which makes me wonder about the validity of his claim.

The only reason you would wonder about the validity of his claim is if you were suspecting him. If you didn't suspect him, you'd think him town, so you wouldn't wonder.

And if I've taken it the wrong way, please! By all means, enlighten me on how the above statement is false. Because right now it seems to me that you're using scummy and weak reasoning to support dislike of Zwet.

Gorrad · Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:56 pm

Knight of Cydonia wrote:When I said I was wondering about the validity of his claim, it was just that - wondering. I never at any point said "I suspect zwet now because Naomi Misora (IIRC) dies by suicide and hides herself, and that happened to ThAd". I wondered about it. I am now coming to two conclusions:
1)The mod wouldn't enforce kill method per character, so zwet's claim isn't affected by this.
2)The Kira or Shinigami responsible has an excellent knowledge of the Death Note series, and made this kill intentionally, hoping it would hide ThAd's role and discredit a Naomi Misora claim, which they may or may not have expected to pop up.

I don't suspect zwet yet. I do suspect you now slightly for jumping on me with a vote, claiming I'm making a weak case, when your vote is based on something even weaker.

Please explain to me how wondering does not imply suspicion. It seems to me that if you did not suspect, you'd have no need to wonder. It also seems as if you're now just backpedaling and trying to OMGUS your way out of this.

populartajo -3 (mykonian, Lamont_Cranston, Llamafluff)
Kairyuu -1 (xylthixlm)
DeathNote-1 (MrBuddyLee)
KnightofCydonia -1 (Gorrad)
MrBuddyLee -1 (DeathNote)
Not voting: Kmd4390 WeyounsLastClone, Knight of Cydonia, populartajo, Starbuck, zwetchenwasser, Kairyuu, Stephoscope

I'm sure Kira's really nice to people who support him.

With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch.

Gorrad · Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:21 pm

Ok. I'll restate what I said earlier. You were wondering about his claim, and therefore his alignment. The ONLY REASON to wonder about someone's alignment is if you suspect that they may, in fact, be lying and are therefore scum. If you did NOT suspect him to be scum, you would have had no reason to wonder about his alignment, as you would have thought him town.

Again, you're backpedaling and accusing me of doing the precise same thing you were doing.

Gorrad · Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:06 am

Vote: Populartajo

Unless I'm VERY mistaken, Sayu sees Misa once, MAYBE twice in the entire series. It doesn't make sense to me.

Gorrad · Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:09 am

Nope! Not with a notebook, and in fact, only the once. The claim would make a LOT more sense for Mogi. And, as I'm Mogi, he has not that role.

Gorrad · Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:20 pm

L_C, you're treading on dangerous ground here. Mod PMs are not to be quoted. I believe that Tajo respects that enough to not break it. He obviously knows what it means, as he used it in a sentence, so I do not doubt that he could use it in a fakeclaim.

Gorrad · Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:17 am

Lamont, try consolidating your posts. A LOT.

And for what it's worth, I use words like besotted all the time.

Gorrad · Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:59 am

Back from V/LA! Thoughts:

1) Starbuck's name was obviously a ploy.

2) Kairyuu's claim makes no sense thanks to QTs. If people give fake names in the topics (Recall, KoC's claim relies on being anonymous) then the mod can't know who talked and who didn't.

Vote: Kairyuu

.

3) Lamont, I have claimed. Remember? 1-Shot Daycop Mogi? I cleared you?

Gorrad · Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:30 pm

Kairyuu wrote:
Gorrad wrote:
2) Kairyuu's claim makes no sense thanks to QTs. If people give fake names in the topics (Recall, KoC's claim relies on being anonymous) then the mod can't know who talked and who didn't.
Vote: Kairyuu
.

Wait . . . what? That makes no sense. How would the mod not know if the roles he made himself are able to talk at Night? I clarified it with the mod, and my investigation tells me whether or not the person I investigate is ABLE to talk at Night during the Night I investigate them. I mentioned this a few days ago. For example, if I investigated someone and got that they couldnt talk to anyone, but then they were recruited by Stepho and I investigated them again, I would get that they could talk at Night, even if they decided not to.

Ah! Able to. My mistake.

Unvote

Gorrad · Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:08 pm

Stephoscope wrote:And the fact that every player in this game is apparently a named role, and Xylthxlm's claim is a very minor Death Note character, is also relevant. Although I do concede the L-miller bit makes sense based on what I read about Lind L. Taylor.

Read my mini theme. I said it once, I'll say it again. There were barely enough roles to go around for the mini! I'm shocked that he had enough for a large. I'd be /SHOCKED/ if there weren't some minor characters.

Hell, mine had Hideki Ryuga, who shows up for one scene.

Gorrad · Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:09 pm

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Gorrad wrote:Back from V/LA! Thoughts:

1) Starbuck's name was obviously a ploy.

2) Kairyuu's claim makes no sense thanks to QTs. If people give fake names in the topics (Recall, KoC's claim relies on being anonymous) then the mod can't know who talked and who didn't.
Vote: Kairyuu
.

3) Lamont, I have claimed. Remember? 1-Shot Daycop Mogi? I cleared you?
Do you have nigh chat ability.

I fixed you and me.

Nope! No night chat.

Gorrad · Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:22 pm

He's Near's second in command. The big, German-looking guy.

Gorrad · Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:17 am

Lamont is not Misa. I investigated him, recall?

Gorrad · Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:40 am

Xylthixlm wrote:Lamont, I don't think I could make this up if I
was
scum.

So long, and thanks for all the WIFOM.

Gorrad · Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:48 pm

DeathNote wrote:We are assuming that Llama is Rem correct? Well if that is the case then I see no harm and possible slight benefit in lynching him. Unless something else turns up that could change my mind, I will
Vote: Llama

Vote: Deathnote

Gorrad · Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:08 am

DeathNote wrote:We are assuming that Llama is Rem correct? Well if that is the case then I see no harm and possible slight benefit in lynching him. Unless something else turns up that could change my mind, I will
Vote: Llama

I want everyone to read this post, then think about this post with emphasis on what kind of person would make it. Then vote DeathNote.

Gorrad · Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:39 pm

Gah! Once more, I've been V/LA. Catching up today/tomorrow.

Gorrad · Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:59 pm

Well, at least we confirmed a Shinigami. But, as it seems little has changed, I will go where I left off.

Vote: Deathnote

Gorrad · Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:23 am

And people wonder why I mock Zwet's play.....

Gorrad · Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:51 pm

Zwet, let's narrow it down.

Who do you think is NOT scum?

Gorrad · Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:29 am

Myk, no offense, but why in the nine rings should we believe you?

Gorrad · Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:53 pm

Kairyuu, I hate to burst your bubble, but reread. I got a 99% town on L_C, not Zwet.

Post 3263:

Gorrad wrote:Gods above and below...

Unvote

I'm Mogi. 1-shot daycop. Lamont's town ><. I get a percentage based on how likely they are to be Kira-aligned. Lamont has a 1% chance.

And how do you know that Deathnote doesn't have, well, a Death Note? Even as Sidoh.

Gorrad · Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:28 pm

Hmph. At least I nailed DN as scum, even if he's not who we should be lynching.

Kairyuu, if DN is claiming scum to draw votes from Starbuck, why is he voting Starbuck? A gambit? Personally, I agree with you that DN has no note.

Unvote

. But I don't think it's Starbuck who we should be looking at. I can see DN trying to draw a lynch to himself just to waste a town lynch even if people with notes aren't even on the radar.

Gorrad · Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 am

Starbuck wrote:I honestly don't think that Ryuk would be killing me if I was Misa.

He's trying to get your note.

Gorrad · Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 am

Ha! Pre-emptive Bah, then!

Hope to see you froods tomorrow. If not, take a look at KoC.

Gorrad · Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:38 am

I loved the game! Much thanks, Mod. Looking forward to the next installment.

PS: Told ya we should have lynched Deathnote : D