Wheel of Time Mafia: Rip in the Pattern (GAME OVER)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, reveal what your results have been so far.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote: Flay

Flay's claim is kinda bleh. Go ahead and lynch him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Looks like we're lynching Flay then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you insane? We're not lynching until we get some action results.

There's no need. Scum can have a lie detecting ability to see if an Aes Sedai claim is truthful or not, trust me. Lynch Flay away please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think he's a scumbag with some kind of lie-detecting ability.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm still up for lynching Kairyuu too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm still up for lynching Kairyuu too.

Where the hell did this come from? I forget...did you have a case against him? A quick recount of something I can look up.

Ever since he "enabled" the SK instead of the confirmed Aes Sedai.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because his enabling ability is bullshit.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because his enabling ability is bullshit.

The number of deaths over twilight 1 suggest that it was not bullshit. I'm not 100% convinced that Kair is town, but all evidence points to his motivation ability being real.

Mafia, SK, vig. SK Isacc supports Mafia Kairyuu.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All right guys chop chop let's get a lynch here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well duhhh, you retard.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You could at least pretend to be someone else with, like, compelling arguments and longer contentful posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why can't you respect that I want to play one game without you? I let you choose Zelda that I wanted to play more than this game. And you replaced in like an asshole. Why?

[Albert B. Rampage]

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU REPLACE IN THEN?????

I gave you every chance possible to not be in a game with you. First, I policy lynched you in another game. Then, I had to replace out. Then, I waited for a large theme game that you wouldn't sign up for. Since that didn't work, I made a thread so that you would get the message. After that, I asked you which one of the two theme games you wanted to be in, and I would sign up for the other. Then, you signed up for both like an asshat, so I had to do all kinds of parlaying with Kinetic, after he threatens to not let me play because he's an asshat too. And then, finally, you have the balls to replace into this game with an obvious alt and no change in playstyle.

I don't like playing with you because it makes me start posting like you, and then everybody else starts complaining about it. Replace out, or I'll replace out. And then, for the love of God, let me play one fucking theme game without you ruining it for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

For real, Kinetic is just looking for this to happen. In the MD thread, people are like "BUT ASK THE MODS, ASK THE MODS TO DENY THE SIGNUP!" Well you know what, fuck the mods. They don't do shit. You talk to them, and all you get is threats.

For real, there were three other people who didn't want to play with zwet in WoT. I'm not the only one. But mods don't do shit because they're not the ones playing so they don't care.

[Albert B. Rampage]

O.K. I want to play in Death Note Mafia how about that???

[Albert B. Rampage]

How about you sign out for Death Note mafia and let me play?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because I want to join Death Note mafia, just as I wanted to play Zelda, WoT, etc. but you screwed those ones up. You picked like 5 games, now I get to pick some. And I pick Death Note mafia.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Double-headed requires a partner so I wouldn't even mind playing with you in that one since you wouldn't be the only one in your role. Suicide Bomber I don't care about because I would just blow you up if I wanted to play in that game. I don't like Chzo Manor and I think you are damned unreasonable for leaving me with the worse choice possible.

[Albert B. Rampage]

AHAHAAHA YOU PRICK!!!! YOU CHOSE ALL THE GAMES THAT I WANTED TO PLAY! YOU HAVE NEVER COMPROMISED EVEN ONCE. NOT EVEN ONCE!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I compromised by replacing out of an ongoing game. Then I compromised again by waiting for a game that you wouldn't sign up for. And again I compromised by letting you pick which one of two interesting games you wanted to play. And then, again, I compromise with you to let you play in WoT if you sign out of Death Note mafia.

You have never lost anything. You saw a game you didn't want to play (Manor) and you didn't sign up for it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

THREE OTHER LARGE GAMES?

THIS IS MY ONLY LARGE GAME. MY ONLY ONE. AND IT WAS THE ONLY ONE FOR MORE THAN A MONTH NOW. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO COME AND RUIN IT???

GO JOIN QUICK & DIRTY OR SOMETHING.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I asked you which game you wanted to play, zelda or WoT. You said zelda. I said ok and I joined WoT. Then you tried to join WoT but you were denied. You even said that you didn't want to be in the replacements list. And then you replace in when the game is at 50 pages. Why?

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, any particular reason you hate zwet? Is it his playstyle?

I didn't even hate zwet before just now, and its just because he's being super unreasonable. I can't stand his playstyle because its making me not care about mafia anymore and just post 1 or 2 liners with who I trust or who I suspect.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The only reason I hate zwet is because he's denying me the games that I want to play in. If he didn't do this, I wouldn't hate him. If we could find some sort of compromise, I would be fine with him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Could you not put me in the replacement list, Kinetic, please? I've PMed you about it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

zwet, look man. You know, you *know*, that I would throw ANY game away to be rid of you. ANY game, the most interesting game, the one I am the MOST involved in, I would throw it away just to not see you. Why did you have to replace in this one?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I was being optimistic at the time I read that post......my own foolishness.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Get this idiot crap out of this thread and take it to PMs, you knobs. This thread will be archived someday for people who want to read a game, not two pages of your juvenile tiddly winks.

Uh, yeah, Kinetic knew this was going to happen so he will have to clean it up at the same time he bans me from this fucking game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't want him to ban you, ABR. Enjoy your game without me. I'm replacing into Chzo Manor. Sorry.

No, no. I was a jackass to you in this game so take it. You made enough efforts to be here in the first place. You win. Stay in the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We finally understand each other. I've prayed for this moment. Thank you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You da boss mon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can confirm Kairyuu's ability.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It is very possible that Kairyuu is working for the scum, and scum don't have any Daybreak actions, only Twilight actions, which is why its useless for him to motivate his teammates.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, I don't think it is very possible ABR. Why would he use the ability at all if he was? Its also terrible design.

To prove that he's pro-town, duh.

[Albert B. Rampage]

OOOO YEAAAH!

Now this is starting to look like a game UNDER ALBERT B. RAMPAGE'S PATRONAGE! Hahaha. Suckers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Now is the time to re-examine why Spyrex is a good lynch candidate.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Here's a smart idea: someone collects all the sleeping locations into one post, and everyone else just copy pastes that list and adds their own.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, the Flay lynch reeked of bussing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, Kairyuu comes off awfully suspicious. Agreed with MBL.

[Albert B. Rampage]

MBL, your sleeping location?

[Albert B. Rampage]

...Setael. The message at the beginning of the day is to be ignored.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It is advisable to act as if the message wasn't there. Its obvious that the scum are producing it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This discussion is unavailing. I believe Kairyuu is scum, and Kairyuu was at the river if we follow your logic. Let's hang him.

Vote Kairyuu

[Albert B. Rampage]

The note thing is incredibly stupid, much like Setael who believes it.

Scum could just claim a different sleeping location and nobody would be able to confirm that. By no means does it help us find scum at all.

However, AS like me can verify power role claims if everyone claims their sleeping location before they claim their actions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh boy, its gonna be a town lynch today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Full claim Mufasa.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Randomly assigned the River for my sleeping location

Mufasa, if you're a roleblocker and must submit your block before Twilight, why did you not also submit a sleeping location?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, yes I did. But I am Aes Sedai.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why didn't you submit a sleeping location at the same time you submitted your ability choice?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, who did you target?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I slept at windmill.

Please lynch JVW tomorrow. He's scummy as all hell.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can someone compile a list of sleeping locations that we do have?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Role-blocking is a Twilight action. Kairyuu motivates Daybreak actions. Daybreak actions include, but are not limited to, night-killing.

Therefore, I don't want Kairyuu to motivate me and I don't get a double role-block.

We should lynch Setael the day after we lynch JFW.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeh, we should also stop setting up lynches.

Also what happened to kairyuu do you still think he's scum?

I think he's scummy. But JFW and Setael are pushing it hardcore.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't say he can "only" motivate daybreak actions. I don't know that. All I know that he motivated me for daybreak actions only and I couldn't role-block an additional player last night because my twilight actions were limited to 1.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because Isacc apparently got two kills, which means that his night-kill ability was a daybreak action.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All right I'm bored. Let's kill Mufasa.

Unvote, Vote Mufasa

[Albert B. Rampage]

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR - in your post 368 you state that if too many Aes Sedai target a male channeler to gentle him, it wouldn't work. I don't recall anything in the books that supports this. Is there something in your role pm that supports this?

You are dense. I said there is a minimum number of AS needed to gentle a male channeler, and even if we reach that minimum the success of the gentling process is not guaranteed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Waste = AS gentling when they could have been using other powers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because some questions are just plain dumb. Anyone who opposes me is scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, please answer my question.

It is advisable to act as if the message wasn't there. Its obvious that the scum are producing it.

This discussion is unavailing. I believe Kairyuu is scum, and Kairyuu was at the river if we follow your logic. Let's hang him.

Vote Kairyuu

Are you confident enough to risk being lynched as a liar should Kairyuu come up town?

No.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I changed my mind. He was obvious scum, then with new information on JVW, he became less suspect and JVW and Setael moved up the scummy list.

[Albert B. Rampage]

They are V/L/A, let him hang.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I RISK BEING STILLED? AHAHAHAHHAHA NICE ONE!!! LOL.

No Aes Sedai is dumb enough to still me, trust me on that. But thanks for the threat, I will remember to role-block you tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not answering any of your stupid questions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The fact that both of those notes can't be true is really throwing me off...

That's because you were dead wrong all along, and I was right. You can't compete with me Setael...

[Albert B. Rampage]

My suspicions of Kairyuu have increased overnight.

I didn't slip. I told my partner the same thing long before, and I explained my reasoning for thinking that kills are daybreak actions and not twilight actions.

Also, I can speak with certainty whenever I want to. Doesn't make it a lie.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It can't be a lie if I don't "know it" to be a lie.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And my partner is still alive FYI.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Kairyuu

Please please please? Pleaaase.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't directly say "x is scum", at any point.

Furthermore, if I break the oaths, the punishment is probably not modkill...neither will it be broadcast by the mod...so you just fail right there.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Logically speaking, I'm only lying if you're not scum. Therefore we should lynch you first.

Anyway, like I said, I think that if I broke an oath I would probably just be robbed of all my powers or something like that. Nothing that you would know of, anyway.

You've been trying to lynch power roles since I said I didn't believe your claim one little bit. So you are OMGUSing me.

Also, we can just have another Aes Sedai claim the exact same things at me and that would confirm me as Aes Sedai who didn't break an oath...I can ask my partner to do that if it comes to it.

Basically, I have several ways of confirming myself whereas you have none, Kairyuu.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Kill scum-ryuu plz.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Doc protection? Warding? Did this occur to you?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not convinced of that, Setael. But I would also like answers from Kairyuu. I'm not 100% sold that one of Albert and Kairyuu must be town; part of me worries that they are scum together in a ploy. That would explain why Kairyuu has such an odd role claim -- he's scum -- and also why he would have motivated Albert when scum -- he knows Albert is scum too. That requires certain assumptions to work, though, not least that the mufasa-Kairyuu note was specifically wrong or at least short of the full truth. The whole situation troubles me. I have a further comment for Albert concerning it but would prefer to wait on Kairyuu answering my question of late yesterday:

Kairyuu, is your action rapid, twilight or daybreak?

The answer to this question may be very important.

I was in the Silo.

His action is twilight. He enables Daybreak actions that happen after twilight.

Voting me is freaking stupid because if Kairyuu is scum I am confirmed town. Also, I am a power role. Also, I have an Aes Sedai partner who can confirm that I didn't lie by repeating the same things as me.

Do you see how stupid it is to vote for me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

2. Albert indicated that his continuing suspicion of Kairyuu, in spite of aparent confirmation of Kairyuu's role, was because he suspected

Kairyuu is working for the scum, and scum don't have any Daybreak actions

. Yet Albert himself later noted that killing is a Daybreak action.

Isacc presumably got his kill doubled, so I glean from this that his killing ability was a daybreak action.

Also, since there were two kills today, its very probably that Kairyuu again motivated his scum partner.

When Kairyuu motivated me, there was only one kill.

3. Assuming

arguendo

that Albert is scum, why confirm Kairyuu at all? Okay, fine, he may not have wanted to deny it and provoke a fight that could end in his death, but why say anything at all?

Well I am required to say the truth, and if he asked me a direct question about an ability such as this (as opposed to really stupid arguments around wording), then I couldn't ignore it and not be suspicious.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR:

Did you have a concrete reason to say that Kai was scum.

Yes / No.

I think that everyone is blinded by the "THERE CAN BE NO SCUM MOTIVATOR" fallacy, and I think Kairyuu's suspicious behavior leads us to think there's a high possibility of being scum.

The mod didn't tell me specifically that he was scum, no.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Indeed. But why are you voting me if my partner can simply repeat what I said?

Two black Ajah? Come now.

And Kairyuu who doesn't believe in Black Ajah is in complete contradiction to attacking me. So scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There COULD be a scum motivator.

However, by your own omission you couldn't say X is scum without objectively knowing such.

You have done that.

You have not said you lost powers.

Well maybe Kairyuu really is scum, like I've said all along, and that is the reason I have not lied.

[Albert B. Rampage]

BLABLABLA

Trying to trick the power roles into getting penalties?

Unvote, vote Spyrex

FOS: Kairyuu

[Albert B. Rampage]

Its not a lie if I'm not aware of it being a lie. ie: I may make human mistakes without trying to be deceptive. Sigh.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hmm...like an AS ability. One of the pair could investigate and the other could divulge the information through these means.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why don't you ****ing unvote me now?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote me noob.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't actually dislike you Spyrex, I think you're scum though. lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

3. No.

1. How should I know.

2. GTFO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: ABR

because he has been beautifully caught in an outright lie. Also, note at the end of ISO 108 ABR says: "All Aes Sedai can double-check with the moderator if they wish." - I've gotta say, this is probably the least subtle piece of fishing ever. "Hey, this is what I'm saying, and the only way to contradict it is for an incredibly important power role to come out for my buddies to kill!"

Ummmm Setael just checked with the mod and confirmed what I said.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You lose one power abilities, noob.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes Meredith, that is my final answer.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have to pm Kinetic about this because I don't remember.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wow 1989 is my birth date, cool ^^

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I am Black Ajah, why hasn't my partner died?

Kairyuu, explain how I am not Aes Sedai?

[Albert B. Rampage]

@tss: after further research, I've found reason to believe that AS can make statements they know are untrue if they are obviously being sarcastic. The only way to break the oath is to lie with the intent to deceive.

This clarification is mod confirmed.

ABR was clearly being some form of sarcastic, since to my knowledge you can't really "notice" someone going to talk in a qt thread.

I find it obnoxious that ABR refused to even address it, but ABR is obnoxious and I should just expect it from him by now.

Also, tss, that catch was not mine, it was julinwolfe's that I was agreeing with.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Night 1 I RB'd Isaac
Night 2 I RB Seraphim
Night 3 I RB Moratorium
Night 4 I RB JVM

[Albert B. Rampage]

Last night I was at the blacksmith.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes. Isacc claimed that he was immune to One Power abilities.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why would I? I blocked Mor and there was a NK.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's right.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can someone correctly re-arrange the night kills into standard, readable formatting?


Hasdgfas, Karaar Powelan, Innkeeper, Town, dismembered before Daybreak of Day 2.
Shadow Knight, Barohei Sedai of the Green Ajeh, Town, dismembered before Daybreak of Day 2.
Knight of Cydonia (replaces MrBuddyLee), Ta'veren of the Light, Town, dismembered and incinerated before Daybreak of Day 2
xxFabianxx, The Forsaken Saprosh, Survivor Mafia, lynched before Daybreak of Day 2.
Isaac, Gholam, Serial Killer, lynched before Daybreak of Day 3
Slicey Kaid Dedrol, Royal Guard , Town, strangled before Daybreak of Day 4
Mr. Flay, The Forsaken Badred, Survivor Mafia, lynched before Daybreak of Day 4.
Kison, Berany Sedai of the White Ajeh, Town, poisoned before Daybreak of Day 5
Faraday, Mitsuden Sedai of the Grey Ajeh, Town, strangled before Daybreak of Day 5
Coal Baid, Gambler, Survivor Gambler, lynched before Daybreak of Day 5.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It looks like there was two consecutive lynches...the whole order is screwed up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

xxFabianxx,

The Forsaken Saprosh

, Survivor Mafia, lynched Day 1.

Hasdgfas,

Karaar Powelan, Innkeeper

, Town, dismembered Night 1.
Shadow Knight,

Barohei Sedai of the Green Ajeh

, Town, dismembered Night 1.
Knight of Cydonia (replaces MrBuddyLee),

Ta'veren of the Light

, Town, dismembered and incinerated Night 1

(4 killshots, including Isacc's doubled one.)

Isaac,

Gholam

, Serial Killer, lynched Day Two

Nothing happened Night 2 due to KoC's nuclear blast.

Mr. Flay,

The Forsaken Badred

, Survivor Mafia, lynched Day 3.

Slicey

Kaid Dedrol, Royal Guard

, Town, strangled Night 3

(1 killshot--why did Albert not suspect that his RB might be blocked scum, especially if he found Moratorium scummy enough to RB in the first place?)

Coal Baid,

Gambler

, Survivor Gambler, lynched Day 4.

Kison

, Berany Sedai of the White Ajeh

, Town, poisoned Night 4

Faraday

, Mitsuden Sedai of the Grey Ajeh

, Town, strangled Night 4

(Two killshots.)

Welcome to Day Five.

You're right. I made a mistake and didn't see this.

So the night Moratorium was role-blocked there was only one kill.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert vs. KoC: Albert, did you roleblock old-KOC. now deceased, or old-Seraphim, now KOC?

Old KOC.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, I don't know if you've already done this, but since it seems you can detect uses of Saidar, you and your Aes Sedai partner should go over your detections from each night. Combine them with the claimed sleeping locations to figure out who can use Saidar and who can't, as well as who might have targeted who each night. I wouldn't necessarily post that list publicly yet, but if you and your partner can create those lists, that will probably help you figure out roles better, and both of you will have that information in case one of you dies. Assuming that you and your partner have not been sleeping in the same location each night, you should have a lot of information about the game so far. For the most part, scum are not willing to lie about their sleeping locations, because there are ways to find out about those lies fairly easily.

Looks like it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't have any out-of-thread information on Kairyuu's alignment.

I'm not the moderator so I don't know what is accepted and what is not...and if I asked, the moderator would likely tell me that he reserves the right to keep that information to himself.

My abilities now are the same as they were at the beginning; I still have them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote Spyrex, vote Benmage

.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why, MBL?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Setael has told you that unless I say something with the intention to deceive, I don't lose my powers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What Ajah are you Sajin?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Since you're outed, might as well full claim now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

In all honesty I think Benmage and Saijin are the two last scum. Black Ajah by the look of it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is the only last minor possibility, but I think Sajin being alive alone clears this greatly.

You realize that the exact same thing can be said for me......

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, I do have a partner backing me up.

I could claim all the detection results, but that would be seriously anti-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

O.K. I'll ask my partner if he wants me to claim detections.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Keep in mind that this is tantamount to massclaiming.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My partner asks if Sajin used One Power last night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

IMO the best plan would be to lynch Moratorium since the night I role-blocked him, the night kills diminished by one.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Their pms probably don't guarantee each other's alignments MBL.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I trust my partner.

@Sajin

Did you or did you not use One Power last night?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm distancing from MBL? I like MBL.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Forsaken seemed like dangerous guys in the WoT wikipedia page.

If we are stilled, are we informed of it?

Anyway, I trust Macavitylock.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Since we can detect Aes Sedai, we could narrow down the number of suspects to only a few, should one of us die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why the hell would we sleep in different locations?

We don't give a damn about finding out who the power roles are. All we want to know is who are the killing roles, and how to stop them. So if I die, my partner could hypothetically detect where the saidar came from if he slept in the same location as me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The main problem with detecting saidar is that we don't know where the dead people stayed at. My plan addresses that problem.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Of the blacksmith choices, I think ABR is the most likely Black Ajah. I have three reasons for saying this at this time:

1. ABR expressed trust in his partner, despite also averring that the PMs ("probably") don't guarantee each other's alignments.

Mine

doesn't

. Benmage and Sajin

probably don't

.

2. My reread (still less than half-done, so I am not prepared to post results yet) has turned up a

lot

of connection between Albert and MrBuddyLee. I feel pretty confident in saying that either they are Aes Sedai partners, or one or the other is scum. Since MacLock has claimed that

he

is ABR's Aes Sedai partner, that leaves guess what.

Needs more evidence.

3.

Night 1 I RB'd Isaac

Night 2 I RB Seraphim

Night 3 I RB Moratorium
Night 4 I RB JVM

Albert vs. KoC: Albert, did you roleblock old-KOC. now deceased, or old-Seraphim, now KOC?

Old KOC.

I don't like dead people replacing back in, it frustrates the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

2024 is official though. 2089 was my guess.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And your wording was confusing me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ok anything else to add?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well MOS, if they don't use saidar as killing method, what's the point of sleeping in different locations to detect more saidar...?

Its very possible I got roleblocked.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mora / KoC, were you informed of being roleblocked?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mora / KoC, were you informed of being roleblocked?

Blatant rolefishing attempt. If everyone was always informed of being roleblocked, I'd be fine with answering, but certain roles (vanilla is a good example) aren't typically informed of being roleblocked, so by answering I'd be narrowing my role possibilities unnecessarily.

I think we already know that you have powers Mora. Remember when one dude was trying to make you his warder and failed?

So answer this question, were you informed of being roleblocked or not?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Look, if everybody's telling the truth, everybody's telling the truth. If someone is lying, here's independent reason to think that that someone is ABR. I do not buy his "I was confused" line for a second; his response was specific enough to indicate he understood perfectly well and answered per the question, and if he weren't sure either what was being asked or which answer was correct, he would have checked. People get lynched for less role contradiction in games where nobody is restricted against lying, and they generally turn up scum.

I will freely admit that Sajin's confirmation that saidar was used as Albert claims is giving me pause. Note that my vote is currently on nobody.

Bottom line, MacLock, did my post give you pause at all about Albert's

bona fides

? If not, how do you defend him?

You do not buy that I have repeatedly made mistakes such as that, for example the latest being that I thought Mora was the one who was targeted to become a warder?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Come on.............trust me...

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, is your roleblock done with the one power? What is the flavor for it?

Yeah. The flavor is I'm putting a magical shield around a player (or something to that effect, I don't fully remember)

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't like MoS. At all. He probably bussed two of his own.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch Mora plz.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hi guys! How about this, let's not lynch an Aes Sedai. WADDYASAY?!

[Albert B. Rampage]

MBL are you an aes sedai? I know your going to say your not but I have this distinct feeling that you are one as you are so attuned to the one power as you claim to be. Since you have obviously stated untruths in the thread, this would make you Black Ajah. Every claim you make is convenient for you and your keeping options open. That seems scummy to me.

Top Scummiest possibilities:

ABR
MBL
JVW

Most Town:
MoS
Benmage

What...a load....of crap.

[Albert B. Rampage]

See above. If you other options were actually that bad, sure.

MoS, a full AS claim is probably valid at this point, given that

A) If Mac is telling the truth, the average AS power probably isn't to the point its worth specifically targeting them.

B) Actual infinite info to sort with the detect abilities.

One last thing

What did SpyreX do to confirm himself as actually having been a channeler in the first place? If there is a claim, I want those who stilled (or w/e) him to come forward with some notification of success, as I'm starting to wonder if its possible for a scum to have just run the gambit claim D1.

I don't think it's useful for us to claim colors/abilities, see Mac's post as well.

ABR, I have a question for you. On the night that you attempted to roleblock Isacc, did your detection results reflect that attempt?

Why does it matter? He could have easily lied about it. As for Moratorium, he has indeed slept at the location he claimed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Weak.

You've got to be kidding.

Um....no. You're quite retarded.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's right Koc! You're not playing the game in the spirit it was intended! You're just trying to frustrate the town!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also go after Kairyuu, he's so scummy its unbelievable.

One minute he says he doesn't believe in black ajah, then the next he goes after me despite the enormous evidence of me being AS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All right. I don't want to play anymore. Vote me please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't want to be replaced btw. Lynch me, go ahead, gogogo. I don't like you, you don't like me, who cares about the game, let's just kill each other and have fun with it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All right. I don't want to play anymore. Vote me please.

You gave up on this game a while ago, didn't you?

I gave up on some players, not the game itself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pfft, and you said I was playing bad today. Y'all just wouldn't listen to me. Trust in me, and this game would be much easier for everyone. Except the scum, of course.

You ARE playing bad today. How do you explain going after me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote vote Kairyuu

[Albert B. Rampage]

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OK, there. Stupid thing. Its open for free edit. Let me know if I'm missing anything.

Isn't it dangerous if the scum edit it with bad info? I think I just saw "Aubrey" edit something, whoever that is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

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OK, there. Stupid thing. Its open for free edit. Let me know if I'm missing anything.

This application breaks the rules and allows for out of thread communication unless there's a way to deny editing and disable the chatbox as well as make all editors anonymous.

[Albert B. Rampage]

EBWOP

at well as = or at least

[Albert B. Rampage]

lol I like it. I'm Red. The best color.

XD

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't think it matters because much of the game is built on the honor system anyway.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok, got a response from the mod, and I was correct. No target night 1, night 2+3 I targeted ABR, night 4 I targeted MOS.

Did you role-block or still me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

YOU MUST.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well if you tell me that you targeted me, I want to know if you stopped me from using my abilities because that would change the way I see the game.

Specifically, I wanted to know if I was role-blocked because that would in turn have canceled my roleblock of Moratorium, which would mean that he isn't any more scummy because the night I role-blocked him there was only one kill iirc.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not interested in knowing if you were investigating me or protecting me, but if you role-blocked me it affects my own abilities.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes....this makes sense! Unvote me quickly!

[Albert B. Rampage]

So if I follow your logic, we lynch Yosarian.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, this is not true. There is no situation in which I can be lying scum if we follow the facts that you have presented. Whether I role-blocked Mora or not, Mora's statement still contradicts Yos2's claims.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote JVW

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe its a mod mistake.

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[Albert B. Rampage]

Did you still me...?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Answer the question on last page (did you still me?)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey guys my internet is going to be cut off soon, so I won't have regular access anymore.

Gonna have to ask for replacement