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[Seraphim]

Vote: claus

for getting me lynched in Fonz's game.

[Seraphim]

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Vote: millar13

RVT quick wagons are way more fun than grudge OMGUS!

[Seraphim]

Three votes already.

Two out of three are townies

One out of three are scum

How in the world do you figure this?

[Seraphim]

Unless Nasubi is somehow scum...which he isn't...because the entire point of the whole damn game(no offense, shaft.ed) is to save him. Why in the world would you want him killed unless you were scum?

Just thought I would mix it up a little bit, build up my profile hehe.

You were fishing for "reactions"? T_T

Confirm vote: millar13

[Seraphim]

how many more till i am dead?

Jester?

[Seraphim]

No idea....all i know is that I came to play this game....and just like sushi I want to be ice cold.

WTF are you talking about?

[Seraphim]

*pounds head against wall*

[Seraphim]

It's just that he seems somewhat logical, or at least not this stupid, in other games. I really want to lynch him so we can get back to scum hunting.

[Seraphim]

It's just that he seems somewhat logical, or at least not this stupid, in other games. I really want to lynch him so we can get back to scum hunting.

[Seraphim]

Unfortunately, the only other interesting thing that happened today besides millar's stupidity was Steth's weird "If I were to randomly choose a player that was Nasubi" posts. I don't get particularly town vibes from that.

[Seraphim]

Steth...I thought you were going go to give not weird posts...and that post is the Holy Grail of Weird. Please explain or end up lynched.

millar...ready to give straight answers and start scumhunting? post 93 looks like you are, but I want to make sure before I move my vote.

[Seraphim]

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Vote: Sajin

If anybody wants me to go back and make a case, I'll do it. But it should be really self-evident why he's scum.

[Seraphim]

Holy shit. That was a fast lynch.

[Seraphim]

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[Seraphim]

Wow, that was nearly disastrous. millar, why the quick hammer? I'm a fan of decisive action but that was ridiculous...

[Seraphim]

Look at the vote count, oh intelligent one.

[Seraphim]

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Vote: millar13

[Seraphim]

A couple of things:

1. Sajin is still in my scumdar. Don't think you've avoided my vote just because of quick wagon action. There's still quite a probability of you being scum and I could hammer right now. But I won't.

2. I can't believe I'm saying this...but millar is actually kinda right. Let's watch the wagon:

Claus puts down vote based on active lurking
camn starts wagon, claiming a misrep
I drop a vote, saying I will provide a case if required.
farside puts down L-3 vote with case
Steth says "Quick, let's lynch him!"
zwet follows suit
millar drops fake-hammer

Why in the world was it required for him to drop an L-1 vote? Especially since just before then he had stated...

I'm confused by the Sajin case.

This is very interesting...millar's gambit may have paid off though we still might want to lynch him. Because I'm almost positive that zwet and millar are not on the same side unless millar is just covering his ass and bussing because of a misvote.

[Seraphim]

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Vote: elvis_knits

[Seraphim]

There were questions aimed towards me? Could someone please restate them? I have a major sinus headache right now and recall there being questions but not exactly what they were. I am willing to explain the elvis_knits vote, however. Just not now...let the painkillers kick in and then we'll talk.

[Seraphim]

Alright, does everyone still want me to explain my votes? Don't have time to post explanations right now but I would much rather scumhunt than defend myself.

[Seraphim]

Alright, time to scumhunt. This game is going pretty damn fast but I do have some questions for various players.

Claus, you dropped a vote on Sajin for "active lurking" very early on, back on page 5 I believe...was active lurking all there was to that case? Did you foresee the wagon growing like it did?

Zwet, you jumped from a millar lynch to a Sajin lynch back to a millar lynch back to a Sajin lynch...all in the space of one page. Why?

elvis_knits, you attacked Sajin quite hard yesterday. Why aren't you continuing these attacks? what changed your mind?

Sajin, you made a lot of comments concerning game balance during day 1...what exactly made you say these statements? You do realize these discussions are rolefishing, right?

DGB, what exactly are the criteria for your town list? Who is on the list?

Claus, you ask a lot of questions. Yet, I don't think I've seen you analyze the answers...what point do the questions serve?

I voted for elvis based on gut. Something about her posts was seriously off. I think I find it odd that other players, not elvis herself, are responding and attacking to that vote however.

I would like to think that the weird soft-claiming confirming weird-shit people would be scum but there's too many of them being too obvious about it to make them scum though I sure would like to know what the hell is going on.

Why was Sajin evidently scum when you first voted him?
- Why did you say that you thought he was scum, but wouldn't hammer, later? (specially the "wouldn't hammer" part)
- How is your scumhunting today, found anyone interesting?

1. Take a look back. Watch him rolefish and implicate another player as scum using information that scum would know. Not to mention misrep camn like crazy.

2. I dislike quick hammers. I like controlled lynches, not crazy out-of-control bandwagons. I dislike bandwagons that form over short periods of time as town and scum.

3. I think DGB and the weird crazy shit is certainly interesting...DGB is ticking my scumdar as she is acting like she did during MS3 and WH2...attempting to bullshit the town into acting in an irrational manner.

I really think that DGB is scum, not only for the reasons that Claus stated, but for meta reasons and just bad, bad vibes from her. I've played with DGB and a lot and can read her fairly well...this is not town behavior.

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Vote: DGB

[Seraphim]

Hey, claus, answering my questions would be sweet.

[Seraphim]

Well, I didn't like it. Sajin's quickwagon makes me think he's not scum...but that's not 100% and I'm definitely still paying attention to him. I am also paying attention to camn.

[Seraphim]

Camn was misrepped by Sajin.

[Seraphim]

*slams desk on forehead*

[Seraphim]

*slams desk on forehead again*

Could the power roles please STOP CLAIMING ALREADY? Scum are gonna have a field-day...

[Seraphim]

WTF?

I explained my vote. Which bandwagon were you talking about because I think I've explained all my votes so far.

[Seraphim]

Since I roleclaimed already, THIS is important.

and nowhere in my role PM it says that Nasubi may die of starvation if I do not find him.

Are you 100% of this fact? That Nasubi will not die of starvation if killed?

Can other Natto distributors confirm this fact?

[Seraphim]

I explained my vote for you in post at top of page.

I voted for millar because he seemed scummy at the time. Is there a problem with this?

I voted for Elvis because my gut said so. Nothing else to say.

[Seraphim]

zwet:

Are you 100% of this fact? That Nasubi will not die of starvation if killed?

Can other Natto distributors confirm this fact?

[Seraphim]

Because I'm looking at my role PM and am pretty sure that Claus is lying.

[Seraphim]

No, my role PM and other flavor information seems to indicate that Nasubi will indeed die of starvation.

[Seraphim]

elvis_knits, you attacked Sajin quite hard yesterday. Why aren't you continuing these attacks? what changed your mind?

I was mostly concerned that he had extra info. Then I decided there might be other reasons for such.

So, you rolefished and attacked him because you thought he was scum and then backed off because his extra info may not be because he's scum?

[Seraphim]

Where did I rolefish? I attacked him because I thought the things he said (of his own accord, while attacking Camn) sounded like scummy extra info.

I suppose rolefish was a bad way of putting it. You were attempting to gain information about his role through the information he supposedly had. Is this correct?

[Seraphim]

I was mostly concerned that he had extra info.

Your words.

You voted for him because you believed that in his words, there was hinting that he had role-based information.

Okay. If this wasn't rolefishing(or trying to get him to give more info about his role), what was it? You dropped a vote to serve what purpose? Did you think that the extra info made him scum? If so, why is he not scum now?

[Seraphim]

Certainly. But that doesn't answer my other question. Why isn't he scum now?

[Seraphim]

I think there's a pretty good chance. My role PM and the game flavor heavily suggests that Nasubi will die if not fed.

But no one else seems to have this information...

[Seraphim]

Also, if Sajin isn't scum, who do you think is scum?

[Seraphim]

That lynch was utter fail.

Major FoS: Sajin

for that seriously premature hammer. There was absolutely no case against Claus and yet numerous players jumped on the wagon. I am almost positive that the wagon was scum-driven. I'm going to read back and check the votes.

[Seraphim]

Camn, way to strawman up the wazoo. The slamming posts were made to express anger at all the claiming from several players at the time...and I did explain my vote later in the game.

However, given the way the game is going, I'll be lynched by this afternoon. Let me defend myself, dammit!

[Seraphim]

I am standing by what I said. I contend that Nasubi will starve. Look the flavor at the beginning of each day...and tell me that doesn't indicate that Nasubi will starve if not given food.

Nasubi has begun looking delerious with so little to eat. Gone are his days of practicing karate with his action figures, or eating dinner while seated atop his bicycle. It takes most of his energy just to sit at the table and fill out sweepstakes cards.

Do you think this is useless filler?

I don't want to claim...do you think the case is strong enough for me to give a claim, though?

Vote: DGB

Can we kill the obv rolefishing scum, please?

[Seraphim]

My

role PM

states Nasubi will starve. I am not claiming food distributor. That is not my role. I am saying that my role has parts that indicate that Nasubi, if not fed, will die.

[Seraphim]

Do you want me to claim? As much as I don't want to, I'll claim right now if you want me to.

[Seraphim]

Alright. I hope to God there's a doctor or something.

I'm Nasubi. *bows* I was doing an alright job of flying under the radar until now. Hopefully someone can feed me.

[Seraphim]

Where does tenchi say he knows who Nasubi is?

[Seraphim]

I can assure you that I am Nasubi. I was considering claiming today anyway due to my starvation issue.

[Seraphim]

My role PM is useless. Apparently, I found a laptop and am using that to access the interwebz and find my supposed killers. I started with two bags of rice and, discounting night 0, I must eat every day or die.

[Seraphim]

You are waaaay too eager to claim, Sajin.

[Seraphim]

Mod: Note my sig.

[Seraphim]

I say we lynch Sajin today. I'm considering mass-claim right now but I still think we can wait until later.

[Seraphim]

There are now six of us left and most likely two of them are scum. Farside gave me ice cream and someone keeps sending me dog food...

[Seraphim]

Do you know with 100% certainty that the ice cream is coming from Farside? (I mean, I certainly think it is, but it's a little peculiar that you would know who supplied the ice cream but not the dogfood.)

Because there hasn't been a counter claim on the ice cream distributor role claimed by Farside yet?

[Seraphim]

What exactly is elvis_knits's claim?

[Seraphim]

E_K...your original claim implies that you can only protect me.

If I die, Nasubi will be taken off the air, and he will be open to nightkills.

Yet you also claim that you can protect other players...

I protected Seraphim instead, hoping the mafia would go for the instant-win

Please explain.

[Seraphim]

DGB is probably not scum unless the dogfood is poisoned.

E_K, can you please explain the discrepancy in your claim?

[Seraphim]

What? I didn't understand that at all...

[Seraphim]

The only person I can see as scum at this point is DGB.

How do you explain the dogfood? Is it poisoned? Designed to give scum a nice little fakeclaim to hide away?

Also, is there something in your role PM that you're not telling us?

[Seraphim]

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Vote: elvis_knits

L-1, people. Hammer with caution.

[Seraphim]

Actually, I certainly cleared at this point. At least, I hope so.

[Seraphim]

I actually think that Steth-scum is more likely than elvis-scum from a perspective of his actual play.

[Seraphim]

I received ice cream and dogfood once again.

Seeing as I can't be NKed, do you guys think we should no-lynch today? I'm fairly sure Steph is the last scum but I think narrowing down the suspect pool can't hurt.

[Seraphim]

Mod: Note my sig.

[Seraphim]

I want a no-lynch, honestly. Scum has already proven they can't target me and I want to narrow the suspect pool down.

[Seraphim]

Hmm. You're right. All it leads to is WIFOM.

Vote: Steph