Saving Nasubi: Game over, Nasubi is Dead Long Live Nasubi

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Vote: populartajo

for having had a DGB-like avatar.

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If I picked a live player at random who might be Nasubi, I think I would have a 10% chance of picking Nasubi.

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errr 8.3% maybe. Math isn't my strong suit

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What is the meaning of 42 and 43, Stephoscope?

No deep meaning, just thinking out loud about the chances of Nasubi being identified. Not saying I want that to happen, of course.

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Unfortunately, the only other interesting thing that happened today besides millar's stupidity was Steth's weird "If I were to randomly choose a player that was Nasubi" posts. I don't get particularly town vibes from that.

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure they will be my only weird posts.

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Please answer my post #62.

I say let millar13 stick around. Is being goofy this early in the game really a scumtell?

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Happy scumday, camn.

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I am curious.. and I don't see how the info could hurt us....Does anyone ELSE know of a couple people who ARE NOT Nasubi? (DON'T NAME THEM!!)

My post 42 was a very very subtle way of indicating that I have this sort of knowledge as well.

But no one else should pipe up about this, really.

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Unvote

Vote: Claus

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Thanks

Reasons?

I have them.

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Please share with us. At this stage in the game, I'm interested in have everyone contribute their thoughts.

Or if you don't feel like explaining your behavior, is there any question you want to make me?

Nope, I feel like at this stage in the game, we might as well take our chances and lynch you.

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How cute. Good luck convincing other people then

If you're Nasubi, make sure you claim so that someone can protect you. I'm assuming there's someone out there who can.

(If you fake claim Nasubi, we'll getcha, don't you worry.)

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Sounds like you're not Nasubi. Let's lynch you.

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Yeah, nice, camn. Vote for the other confirmed townie.

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Steth...I thought you were going go to give not weird posts...and that post is the Holy Grail of Weird. Please explain or end up lynched.

I'll explain later if enough people have a problem.

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Yeah, nice, camn. Vote for the other confirmed townie.

How/when were you confirmed?

unvote; vote stephoscope

I 100% confirmed myself in post 42.

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If I picked a live player at random who might be Nasubi, I think I would have a 10% chance of picking Nasubi.

This is post 42. I don't see how it confirms you.

OK, see, at the time I wrote that there were 13 players in the game, including myself. Meaning there were 12 players other than myself. But the only way there could be a 10% chance of me picking Nasubi would be if there were only 10 possibilities, which there were, because I knew of two other players who are not Nasubi. Knowing that before any discussion of it came about (which I was hoping would NOT come about, hence my subtlety) confirms me absolutely. See?

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Stephoscope, I did not understand a word of that.

Townies each know two people who aren't Nasubi. I very vaguely referenced that before there was any discussion of it.

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camn, please consider removing your vote from me. I'm not going to be annoying.

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In addition to all the wonderful reasons above, I can also add that Sajin is definitely not Nasubi. Now that we (and the scum) all know that, we should definitely lynch him now.

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Vote: Sajin

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Good catch. I could kill Claus. And millar. Choices, choices.

Now that I have stated that Sajin is not Nasubi, I think we need to go ahead with the Sajin lynch.

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Tajo: camn is town. Since I am #1 on your pro-town list, hopefully my statements have some clout.

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Claus and Seraphim are tops on my scum list. However, this conduct by millar13 is unacceptable.

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Vote: millar13

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Nothing better to do in mixed company than to talk about how zwet's lynch means that Nasubi starves to death. :/

Assuming the game isn't already lost based on this little discussion, we need more information that will keep Nasubi alive without endangering him or the people most important to his survival.

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Camn, I don't see how it's possible for dgb to know that if we lynch zwet, Nasubi will automatically starve.

Don't play dumb.

I have the same role as camn, and I don't know what you're talking about either.

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Unvote

vote: Claus

I was trying to get this going yesterday, remember?

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I am finding it hard to believe that Claus was so clueless earlier today if he's a Natto Distributor. Also, I notice he caught onto food distributors after Tenchi mentioned getting food to Nasubi. So it doesn't seem like he came up with it on his own.

Also, I don't understand this:

In the real world (tm), members of a mailing list eventually came close to finding Nasubi's apartment real address. When they did it, the production of the program took nasubi out of his apartment and moved him to another location.

Keep guessing. And how would this work in a mafia game?

You wake up in the morning, and the first thing you notice is: Nasubi's room looks different. Also, one of the oldest posters in your forum has stopped posting - your hero was among you the whole time and you never noticed!

- IOW, he gets removed from the game, and we move on.

So, you think that in a game called, SAVING NASUBI, that Nasubi can die and the game just moves on? That makes no sense to me.

I wholeheartedly agree with all of this.

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All in all I see nothing scummy in regards to camn

camn and I are already cleared, as far as I am concerned.

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What's the case on Seraphim?

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I'm liking, camn. A lot.

Vote: Seraphim

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steph, whats your opinion of the situation?

I don't yet know whether or not to believe Seraphim, and this whole Tenchi thing has me confused.

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Seraphim, is there anything more about your role you can safely tell us in mixed company, other than you are apparently at risk of starvation?

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unfos; fos: stephoscope

Question dodging and not providing much scum hunting material.

Yeah, I'm confirmed, and I'm not just going to make something up I don't see just because you demanded something.

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unfos; fos: stephoscope

Question dodging and not providing much scum hunting material.

Yeah, I'm confirmed, and I'm not just going to make something up I don't see just because you demanded something.

explain this

I'm sure you could explain it yourself if you were paying attention.

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unfos; fos: stephoscope

Question dodging and not providing much scum hunting material.

Yeah, I'm confirmed, and I'm not just going to make something up I don't see just because you demanded something.

explain this

I'm sure you could explain it yourself if you were paying attention.

Thanks for withholding good information from town and not scumhunting ever this entire thread. Very pro town right there.

It might be pro-town to point out that you're probably the only one who wasn't aware I'm confirmed, Mr. Scumhunter.

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Vote: Sajin

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I love 2 things though steph.


I am just confused by your play here.

Of course you are, because as scum you looked for someone convenient to accuse, not realizing he was confirmed town, and now you'll just play confused.

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Your mafia play, not your breadcrumbing.

But if you don't understand me then its not worth it. I thought you would get it.

If you're going to accuse me of "breadcrumbing", I really don't care what you think I'd "get". You're scum.

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Why are you on my case? I think you are so thickheaded that you must live in the basement.

unvote; vote: elvis_knits

LOL...this coming from the person who attacked an obvious townie?

Methinks you weren't reading the thread too carefully, and didn't need to, since you already knew who was town and who was scum. My vote stands.

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I don't think I like the massclaim idea. We can take our chances.

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I think I believe Farside.

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Unvote
Vote: Tenchi/replacement

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Vote: DrippingGoofball

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The dogfood came in a bag.

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Hyposcum Sajin's eagerness to claim yesterday does make a whole lot of sense, considering another Denpa Shonen had already flipped town (and scum Denpa Shonen Tenchi hadn't yet flipped).

Unvote

while we wait to hear from him.

(Note: I just noticed that my previous vote against Sajin never counted; I neglected to unvote. My bad.)

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It was dogfood. He opened the

bag

and took a bite. "It's not too bad," he said. But he was so full he couldn't eat anymore. So he saved the

bag

for another day.

But I'll mention that the mod made a real point of telling us the dogfood was in a bag...so it wasn't canned goods as DGB claimed to have. This may or may not be significant.

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Is there any reason why DGB would have said "canned goods" and not "dogfood"?

And why would a Nasubi Saver be sending him frickin' dogfood, anyways?

(Just making sure to think about all angles...I do think Sajin's in trouble here.)

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Dog food also comes in cans, so I could see that as a possible mix-up. Or possibly DGB just assumed her dog food comes in cans although shaft.ed didn't tell her specifically.

It's more believable to me than camera guy who sends dog food.

But why not just say dogfood ahead of time? Why be secretive, especially considering something like this might happen?

(Although I admit, I wouldn't feel especially pro-town to have a role that involved sending dogfood to a hungry man.)

I don't for one minute believe Sajin sent the dogfood. Is there anyone/anywhere else it might have come from?

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I am a watcher thats always on nasubi. I did not know his login name, and I cannot be on anyone else.

I find this to be extremely believeable, though I'm still not sure whether you're town or scum.

Nasubi recieved a visit from Llamafluff and elvis night 2.

Last night: He was visited by farside, zwett and DGB.

Anyone have any issue with any of this?

My vague passive ability: If nasubi is going to run out of food I can give him some of my spare food. I don't even know if it triggered or not last night (its vague and nasubi was at no food left according to seraphim, so it may have triggered)

The above is where I get a little suspicious.

There is no reason for a doctor to exist in this setup. If nasubi was nightkillable night 1, this setup would be broken as we lose if nasubi is not saved. I assume nasubi is not nightkillable as long as he has food.

If elvis' claim were true, where is the eggplant in the flavor scene?

If nasubi were really nightkillable without a doctor scum would of followed the 2 step path of: elvis- seraphim.

The lack of eggplant doesn't really bother me (for the record, I find elvis' roleclaim to be very believeable as well), but the second paragraph here is a valid point.

Hmmm....

Camn, can you explain exactly why you considered elvis soft-confirmed?

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However, I admit that I don't know ANYTHING about Nasubi in real life.
Is eggplant common knowledge?

I think it is.

Sajin, please explain your "I love two things" comment from earlier.

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However, I admit that I don't know ANYTHING about Nasubi in real life.
Is eggplant common knowledge?

I think it is.

Sajin, please explain your "I love two things" comment from earlier.

The flavor of my non-nasubi knowledge. I did not know if yours was the same or not, but in the off chance they were I figured it could not hurt.

Your supposed role (purple fruit, emergency food, loving things) is getting way too convoluted, whereas I find elvis' to be 100% believable.

Vote: Sajin

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And Stephascope might be sliding under the radar a little bit this game, FTR.

Yeah...I haven't meant to. I pounce when I see something, but don't always have anything to say when I don't.

Ps. I bet Elvis is scum, too. She is good enough to have cooked up Sajin's crazy claim to quasi-clear ONE of them. Plus, I see shaft.ed mentioned Eggplant in the N2 flavor? "His eggplant swinging around wildly". So E_K falls from the ranks of soft-cleared.

But Sajin is the priority-lynch.

I dunno. Elvis might be good, but her claim is SO believeable for this game, and is much more in line with a town role than scum. Plus, having four Denpa Shonen roles, two town and two scum, makes sense to me...and that's what we'd be looking at, right?

DGB (apparently) sent dogfood...

dogfood

!

I'm not convinced that's a townie thing to do, and her reluctance to admit what she'd be sending is worth noting.

But yes, Sajin needs to go now.

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What 2 things do you love?

Candlelit dinners and long walks on the beach. That's what I heard, anyway.

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Well, as I said before, Sajin's original role claim was extremely believeable.

My vote probably stands, although I do need a re-read to check one thing.

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Welcome back, DGB. Are you sending the dogfood?

How are we lucky enough to have everyone still alive?

As for Sajin...wow. I was more convinced he was scum than I've ever been about anyone before. Oh well, I hope he was right about his gambit being beneficial.

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Do you know with 100% certainty that the ice cream is coming from Farside? (I mean, I certainly think it is, but it's a little peculiar that you would know who supplied the ice cream but not the dogfood.)

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Fair enough. I just was wondering if the ice cream had a return address on it and the dogfood didn't, or something.

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To the ghost of Sajin, I say that your lynch has taught me to never think I'm 100% confident in something in this game.

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Fair enough. I just was wondering if the ice cream had a return address on it and the dogfood didn't, or something.

Why would you think that? I claimed the ice cream distributer 2 days ago. It's obviously coming from me if no one is saying they did it. Why would you think differently at this point?
Waiting for DGB's claim but seeing so far no claim about dog food it's a good guess it's from her

Don't misunderstand--I absolutely do think you're providing the ice cream. I just was wondering exactly what information was being provided in Seraphim's PMs.

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Welcome back, DGB. Are you sending the dogfood?

Yes.

What can you tell us about your "canned food" claim earlier? How come you weren't more specific than that? How about the fact that Nasubi's dogfood came in a bag?

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Welcome back, DGB. Are you sending the dogfood?

How are we lucky enough to have everyone still alive?

As for Sajin...wow. I was more convinced he was scum than I've ever been about anyone before. Oh well, I hope he was right about his gambit being beneficial.

The only good thing Sajin did was tell me to protect farside, which created a WIFOM situation between me and mafia.

I protected Seraphim instead, hoping the mafia would go for the instant-win.

Who do you believe is scum?

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The only alternative I can think of is that we made a mistake when we confirmed camn or steph. Although it looked solid at the time.

Fair enough. My choice is between you and DGB. Leaning towards DGB as scum because of the strength of your roleclaim (although Sajin's original claim was pretty darn believeable also) and DGB's reluctance to claim dogfood, although we need to discuss further. camn is 100% town, and it should be clear that I am town also. Hopefully there were others with the vanilla role (besides Sajin, who was intentionally obtuse) that confirmed what camn and I were talking about somewhere along the line.

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Please discuss.

I'm in disbelief that you of all people doubt my claim. Go back and read everything that went down, see if I said anything else weird that might be breadcrumbing, and think about what the chances are that I would come up with something like that and be right.

And how on earth do you trust DGB?

The remaining scum is either DGB or elvis...It may be elvis, but damn her roleclaim seems legit...and why would a scum be censoring Nasubi?

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And how on earth do you trust DGB?

It's not like another player is taking credit for the dog food.

I don't really doubt that you're sending the dogfood...it's just that being "hard-cleared" implied to me that you're town...which I'm not sure about, given the strength of elvis' claim and your reluctance to claim dogfood beforehand.

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Seraphim should be able to attest to the fact that the dog food, once received, can be used on any night he fails to receive fresh food. So he has provisions for the next two days, even if farside dies and takes her ice cream delivery truck to the grave. Does this sound like a scum role to you?

I'm certainly interested in anything Seraphim can clarify, and who he thinks is scum.

I also noticed the apparent discrepancy in elvis' claim that he pointed out recently.

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So why would you be protecting Nasubi if you can protect other players and still keep him alive?

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Assuming there's one scum left and it's either elvis or DGB...

There are six of us left in the game. Lynching elvis leaves five. If elvis flips town, DGB killing someone leaves four, and then three townies lynch DGB for the win.

Is there any problem with this?

The only issue I can see is if farside is somehow scum. Camn, Seraphim, and I are clearly confirmed.

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Assuming there's one scum left and it's either elvis or DGB...

What is the root of the assumption that there's only one scum left? Are sure are we?

While I can't be totally sure (Sajin flipping town really was a learning experience), I don't really see any candidates other than you and elvis, and it doesn't look like the two of you are working together.

Given that I for one am starting to lean toward lynching elvis first, what do you think of the plan?

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Given that I for one am starting to lean toward lynching elvis first, what do you think of the plan?

I know my alignment, so of course lynching elvis first is the better course of action from my perspective.

Can someone explain exactly what doesn't fly in her claim? I want to make sure I got it right.

While I have more reading to do, I believe she's wavered back and forth between being a traditional doctor, and being just someone who keeps Nasubi immune from nightkilling just by being alive.

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Note that the eggplant made an appearance in Day 2...before Nasubi's identity was known.

I think this will be for the win. If not, we lynch DGB. I don't see any flaw in this plan.

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Vote: elvis_knits

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Come on, DGB. I'm so confirmed. Everyone else with the vanilla townie role understood my breadcrumbing early on.

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errr 8.3% maybe. Math isn't my strong suit

Explain this please.

I am starting to think your "breadcrumb" was just an accident, and that you are sharp enough to try and latch onto my awesomeness.

2 scum is unbalanced if Nasubi is un-NKable.... which he is if Elvis is not the doc. Thus Elvis being the Last Scum is less likely!

2 scum is more balanced if Nasubi IS nightkillable... but 3 scum makes even more sense.

SO, explain.
Also, who were your non-nasubis? And HOW did you know they were not Nasubi, from a flavor standpoint?

Yeah, THREE MINUTES LATER I posted something that I thought would make me, you know, not seem stupid if I didn't want to use that breadcrumb after all.

Go ahead and see if I posted ANYTHING else peculiar--and then ask yourself what are the chances that I would have come up with something like that and just gotten lucky.

My two non-Nasubis were you and Sajin.

I know two scum seems low, but I'm convinced you're town (and as far as I'm concerned, you of all people should be MORE convinced that I am), and I have already explained that elvis and DGB look like the only real candidates to me, and it doesn't look like they're working together.

If lynching DGB now seems safer to everyone, I am willing to do that if everyone promises we'll lynch elvis immediately afterward if DGB flips town. Otherwise, my vote will stay on elvis.

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Oh and also, note that I posted confirming my vanilla townie role a mere three minutes after you said anything about it, camn.

I like to think I'm a good player, but I'm not psychic or superhuman. I'm not trying to be overly defensive, but I feel like suspicion of me, when I should be sufficiently cleared, is jeopardizing what should be a secure win.

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Why wouldn't you want to use that breadcrumb? Are you sure you didn't just check your math? IS math your strong suit??

I have a bachelor's degree in industrial engineering, and am graduating with an MBA on Thursday. (If you care enough to check, I know I mentioned my education in some other game a while back) So I think my math is good enough.

Who were the two people you knew were not nasubi??

Again, you and Sajin.

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*sigh*

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If I were Steph-town, I would agree with this plan.

No way, given that I'm simply not convinced someone who sends *dogfood* is town, especially given DGB's earlier reluctance to share the details.

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I think you are taking a huge unnecessary gamble considering DGB more confirmed than myself.

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I have no objection to an elvis hammer. It's ever so slightly more advantageous, strategically speaking, to lynch Steph first. But I think either way, we win.

If I knew you were town, I'd agree with you and have no problem being lynched, but that's a big if.

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Glad I had time to check this. As I've posted in all my other threads, I will be away for the next 48 hours or so. I have family coming in for my graduation (I have no idea why the ceremony is on a Thursday).

Quick thoughts:

I was surprised that a scum still remains. I had thought it was either elvis or DGB, not both.

Where is Nasubi?
He (Seraphim) must truly not be NK-able by regular means...but where'd he go?

camn's NK makes me suspicious of farside, who seemed to be the most cleared townie (other than Nasubi), although camn was fairly cleared herself.

I wish camn hadn't gotten all suspicious of me near the end there, as she was the only one left in the game who knew what the vanilla PM stated. I remain confident that my very early breadcrumbing, and the reaction of everyone else who had the vanilla role, clears me sufficiently.

I need to go back and check the interaction between elvis and DGB--does it clear DGB, or were they working in cahoots?

Scum is clearly either farside or DGB, both of whom send food--so that's no longer any kind of clearing factor.

The lack of comment about farside's icecream, which I have no doubt that she sent, probably doesn't mean anything, as we can't see Nasubi. I wonder if Seraphim can even post?

Seraphim HAS eaten the ice cream before, but not the dogfood as far as I know, so that may be a point in farside's favor.

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I received ice cream and dogfood once again.

Seeing as I can't be NKed, do you guys think we should no-lynch today? I'm fairly sure Steph is the last scum but I think narrowing down the suspect pool can't hurt.

We should absolutely no-lynch. That will narrow down the field and leave the winning or losing vote in your hands. I am not scum, and will happily defend myself tomorrow should I still be around, but there's no point doing it now.

Vote: No Lynch

I see absolutely no pro-town reason why we should lynch someone today and possibly hand the scum a win. I'm looking at you, DGB.

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Either you're not paying attention, or you're scum pretending to not pay attention. camn was nightkilled. There is no reason for me to die, as my breadcrumbing should confirm me as town. There is no reason not to no-lynch today, and allow Nasubi to make the final call.

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OK, we lynch you, then me, then farside.

No, if you lynch me, scum NKs the other townie and wins.

Which may be exactly what you want.

But you're at least supposed to *pretend* you're town, so kindly explain why you seem to be against the idea of a no-lynch.

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No, if you lynch me, scum NKs the other townie and wins.

No, if we lynch you we lynch scum. We win and you lose.

IF YOU'RE TOWN, which I highly doubt, dogfood girl...why don't you put forth your case against me now, instead of yammering on and on about how I need to die...then support the no-lynch effort and put the decision into the great Nasubi's hands?

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EBWOP: The no-lynch is not just to put the effort into Nasubi's hands, of course...it is to narrow down his list of lynch candidates. There is no pro-town reason not to do that, and there is no pro-town reason for DGB repeatedly avoiding the subject.

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What effort in Nasubi's hands? I don't know what you're talking about. But here's what I do know"

I know Seraphim is not scum.
I know farside is not scum.
I know that I'm not scum.

Yet the game hasn't ended. So there is one more scum. That scum is you.

IF we "no lynch," tomorrow the game will have you, Seraphim, and another townie. If we no lynch, you'll be in a way better position to win the game for yourself and your scumpals.

So if you don't mind. We're lynching scum for the win. I'm sorry it has to be you! But such is life.

Either you are scum, and/or you are posting from Bizarro World. I am the most confirmed of anyone, save Nasubi!

Let's say I am scum, which I'm not. Explain why I would be in a better position to win if we no-lynch. If you can provide some explanation that makes sense, perhaps I will re-think my desire for a no-lynch, as I don't want to put the scum in any better position to win. If you can't provide such an explanation, it's gonna make you look pretty bad, huh?

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Let's say I am scum, which I'm not. Explain why I would be in a better position to win if we no-lynch. If you can provide some explanation that makes sense, perhaps I will re-think my desire for a no-lynch, as I don't want to put the scum in any better position to win. If you can't provide such an explanation, it's gonna make you look pretty bad, huh?

Should I just keep on posting this until you address it?

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Let's say I am scum, which I'm not. Explain why I would be in a better position to win if we no-lynch. If you can provide some explanation that makes sense, perhaps I will re-think my desire for a no-lynch, as I don't want to put the scum in any better position to win. If you can't provide such an explanation, it's gonna make you look pretty bad, huh?

Should I just keep on posting this until you address it?

You're scum. That's why it makes sense.

No, I'm not scum, and that made no sense.

Explain why we should not do a no-lynch and narrow the field.

THEN, if you insist on declaring me scum and everyone else town, you can share your logic. I breadcrumbed my role early on, and every other vanilla townie knew it. I hope all remaining townies do a re-read.

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I am the most confirmed of anyone.

In your dreams.

For the record, this is a misrepresentation of what I said.

My exact words were "I am the most confirmed of anyone, save Nasubi!"

Not that you deserve the benefit of the doubt here, but I was using "save" as a synonym for "except for", not as a verb.

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All other players are actually proven except you. Good luck convincing the others to no lynch.

And how exactly do you think you (and, for that matter, farside) are "proven"? Because you send food? The Genitals Censor was scum, but you're really pretending that a Dogfood Sender couldn't be?

On the off chance that you are town, I need you to understand that you are playing very, very anti-town here...not only are you claiming things are "proven" when they're not, but you're advocating an immediate lynch that will give the scum the win.

Why are you so terrified about doing a no-lynch and sending this to the finals?

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I'm pretty sure farside is town regardless of her ice cream truck. I believe Seraphim. So you're scum.

See that's funny, because you just thought it was "proven", now you're just "pretty sure". You believe Seraphim about what?

Seraphim, since this game is still going, one of the players sending you food is scum. This is fact. My lynch would prove that to you, but my lynch would also lead to a scum win, which is why I am supporting your no-lynch proposition.

Ugh? There's one scum left, and that's not me, farside or Seraphim. How is this anti-town?

Because you're totally wrong. I'm actually thankful you're "clearing" farside, though...it proves your scumminess.

I'm in a hurry to win. I want to retire from mafia.

I don't need to say a word about how completely anti-town this is. That's your only reason?

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farside, how do you feel about a no-lynch?

How do you feel about DGB's behavior?

If you're town, know that I am town too (it's funny how DGB keeps going on about "proof" when I'm the only one who actually proved my alignment), and one of us will die tonight if we no-lynch. But it puts Nasubi in a good place to cast the deciding vote.

[Stephoscope]

Seraphim, since this game is still going, one of the players sending you food is scum. This is fact. My lynch would prove that to you, but my lynch would also lead to a scum win, which is why I am supporting your no-lynch proposition.

From my perspective, that would have to be farside, if what you say is true. But it's not farside. It's you. You're the scum.

No, I'm not, and if you're town you are making a huge mistake with your tunneling, your bogus claims of "proof", and your refusal to help no-lynch us to better odds.

But, you're probably scum.

[Stephoscope]

If I picked a live player at random who might be Nasubi, I think I would have a 10% chance of picking Nasubi.

YARLY

[Stephoscope]

If I picked a live player at random who might be Nasubi, I think I would have a 10% chance of picking Nasubi.

YARLY

That means nothing next to ice cream delivery.

Again, the freaking Genitals Censor was scum, so don't pretend a food sender can't be.

Oh I get it--you're totally the scum. You have to pretend that sending food is an automatic clear, because otherwise, anyone knows to pick the ice cream person over the dogfood person when it finally comes to that!

[Stephoscope]

Steph: I agree and disagree with a no lynch. I agree that it should be one less person to analysis but either today or tomorrow is lylo. How strongly do you feel that today vs. tomorrow makes a difference on when we lynch if you are sure who is scum?

Well, I really really think DGB is the scum, but it could be you. The no-lynch gives us less of a pool to look at, and I see no downside whatsoever.

[Stephoscope]

Feel free to kill me tomorrow. I won't put up a fight. Seraph is not scum. Neither are you. So, kill Stephoscope today, and me tomorrow. We win faster if Stephoscope dies first.

This is so totally incorrect. Lynching me would be an immediate win for the scum.

There is absolutely no downside to doing a no-lynch.

[Stephoscope]

Seraphim.

A mislynch here ends the game with a scum win.

I am a vanilla townie. I breadcrumbed my role early on.

DGB's arguments consist of just calling me scum a lot, and pretending that sending food means someone is cleared. AGAIN, the Genitals Censor was scum, how could you not expect a food supplier to be scum as well?

PLEASE vote no-lynch. It only takes two.

farside, please please don't vote to lynch me. It will instantly end the game with a scum win.

THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE WHATSOEVER TO A NO-LYNCH. DGB has to be the scum at this point, so tomorrow will almost definitely be me vs. her, as she won't put herself against farside. Let's do it that way.

[Stephoscope]

Also, look how DGB has been pretending how we have multiple lynch opportunities ahead of us.

Don't fall for it...

[Stephoscope]

This was a really fun game. I can't believe I was lynched, but whatever