Answer my question first.Tenchi wrote:TAJO WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME! <3
Ophans start with the same HP right? 8?
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You know, you have to stop here and start considering this possibility since DGB is pretty much town right now.roflcopter wrote:unless the claimed ophan is also scum
BRILLIANT
The last game had 2 town Ophans. It was a mini. I expect at least 3 town Ophans in this game.
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Why did you start playing right now?Tenchi wrote:
We hadn't had a new votecount? I thought Weyouns was the last one killed by the last set of votes? And I thought we're starting with a new one after his flip.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Because according to the vote count, Seraphim is the vote leader.Tenchi wrote:Why does ABR get away with hurting Seraphim?
You were angry with Xyl why?Call me Tajo.
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What are your conclusions of your post?Tenchi wrote:Tajo, Xyl, Rolf: What do you think on my notes above on Post 560?
The same I ask to Nuwen.
Conclusions, people, conclusions.Call me Tajo.
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So you avoided my reasoning why?roflcopter wrote:this is a clusterfuck. i'll reconsider finishing off xyl. at midnight-ish one of xyl and seraphim is getting smacked.Call me Tajo.
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You think Xyl is still scum?Tenchi wrote:
Again, would rather me to "start playing" later? Why are you questioning me standing up for what I think is right, right now?populartajo wrote:
Why did you start playing right now?Tenchi wrote:
We hadn't had a new votecount? I thought Weyouns was the last one killed by the last set of votes? And I thought we're starting with a new one after his flip.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Because according to the vote count, Seraphim is the vote leader.Tenchi wrote:Why does ABR get away with hurting Seraphim?
You were angry with Xyl why?
I wasn't "angry" with Xyl. I just feel annoyed that nobody is supporting his lynch when he has done quite a number of suspicious things, especially subtle ones.Call me Tajo.
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Shit.Mr. Flay wrote:Howling winds rise at your backs, and the skies turn an ugly purple-blue color, like an old bruise. Some faces look grim, some angered, and some merely pained as the chaos swirls and rages around you.
Can we rule out the possibility that scum can damage each other or everybody has received damage so far?Call me Tajo.
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Xylthixlm wrote:
Secret damage as of post 2911:
3 points of secret damage were used to kill Kinetic.
6 points of secret damage were used to kill vIQleS.
3 points of secret damage were used to kill zwetschenwasser.
1 point of secret damage was dealt to Nuwen.
2 points of secret damage were dealt to DrippingGoofball.
1 point of secret damage was dealt to The Fonz.
2 points of secret damage were dealt to populartajo.
Note: Damage counts are based on public information and reasonable assumptions. It's always possible that there are two secret effects cancelling each other out.Call me Tajo.
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I dont understand this.DrippingGoofball wrote:And of those in the top tiers, q21, Giuseppe, roflcopter, and ABR were spared. So far. So I don't know if we can read much into that.
You didnt see anything, did you?Call me Tajo.
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I mean that they havent used rage on themselvesDrippingGoofball wrote:
I can't see why they couldn't. One can always hope that they'd bepopulartajo wrote:Im very tempted to say that scum cant use rage on each other.thatretarded.yet. (if they can)Call me Tajo.
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So you dont think the players that were hurt are likely town?DrippingGoofball wrote:
It means they were not hit. I don't think I can explain it any better than I have, maybe someone else can try and help you understand my French.populartajo wrote:What are you talking about, DGB?
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OKAY, IM SICK OF THIS SHIT.
THERE IS A REASON WHY WE HAVE HEALING AS A TOWN POWER. MAYBE ITS TIME TO USE IT MASSIVELY AS A WAY TO HELP THE PLAYERS THAT ARE PROB TOWN.
SCUM CANT HAVE MORE RAGE. IF THEY HAVE MORE RAGE THEN WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO LOSE.
TOWN
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ONE OF THEM IS TOWN LIST
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TOWN LIST ARE FREE TO HURT THE SCUMMIEST PLAYER IN THE NON-TOWN LIST. TENCHI.
NON TOWN LIST SHOULD HEAL ONE OF THE TOWN LIST.
"ONE OF THEM IS TOWN" LIST. WE SHOULD DECIDE THIS NOW. THERE IS A SCUM IN THIS PAIR AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH HIM/HER RIGHT NOW.
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This game moves so fast. We have clear evidence that Tenchi needs to die.Seraphim wrote:
What happened to the vote count?populartajo wrote:TENCHI NEEDS TO DIE INMEDIATELY.Call me Tajo.
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Also, scum are about to win the game if we dont move fast. Votes are indeed slow for this situation.populartajo wrote:
This game moves so fast. We have clear evidence that Tenchi needs to die.Seraphim wrote:
What happened to the vote count?populartajo wrote:TENCHI NEEDS TO DIE INMEDIATELY.Call me Tajo.
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Nuwen, I have been saying that one of you or rolf are scum. You agree with this or not?Nuwen wrote:
Neat. I didn't know we could tell players to act in one way if they're town, and another if they're scum.populartajo wrote:ROLF, DONT HURT SERAPHIM TONIGHT. HURT NUWEN. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU IS SCUM.
DO THIS ONLY AND ONLY IF YOU ARE TOWN.
Could all scum just start hurting each other right now?
Much obliged,
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I DONT CARE WHO DIES FIRST. I WANT ANY OF THEM DEAD.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Not a good idea!populartajo wrote:ROLF, DONT HURT SERAPHIM TONIGHT. HURT NUWEN. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU IS SCUM.
DO THIS ONLY AND ONLY IF YOU ARE TOWN.
When the time comes for us to kill one or the other, the town should decide which one goes first. Nuwen has already absorbed some scum rage points, so she's already weaker than copter. And copter is scummier than Nuwen. In any event, both should start with about the same number of HPs. We decide which to kill first. If that player is scum, then we SPARE (new word for you tajo!) the other. If that player is town, then we dump hurt on the other player.
Not that copter takes any advice... But tajo, don't give him worse advice than what he comes up with himself.Call me Tajo.
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You supported my voting strategy but then you hurt Xyl with no reason at all.Tenchi wrote:Seraphim wrote:I think there have been cases throughout the game.And I have appropriately defended myself. My absence, my "timing" and the people I suspected and cleared.
If there is anything I missed, kindly restate them.
That is your case.
You need to die.Call me Tajo.
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Kay, kay, Im relaxing right now.DrippingGoofball wrote:
It's important, we have to try to kill the scummiest one first. At random, it's probably 50%, according to your theory (and Nuwen seems to agree with this). Maybe if we make an effort to kill the worst one first, odds will be 60% in our favor. Mafia is a game of millimeters. Every little bit counts.populartajo wrote:I DONT CARE WHO DIES FIRST. I WANT ANY OF THEM DEAD.
You prefer Nuwen. Why?Call me Tajo.
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You still think DGB is scum?Tenchi wrote:
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?
Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM
(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)
DIE.Call me Tajo.
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I have one question for you.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Haha, my sarcasm detector isn't broken, thanks for testing it!Giuseppe wrote:Hm, well, judging by my presence on Tajo's big, all-caps list of Non-Town players, I suppose at the very least I should follow his instructions, that I might work towards validating myself in his eyes.
Please tell me all your Ophan targets until the last one.Call me Tajo.
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Actually if there is one confirmed is DGB, since its the only Ophan left.Xylthixlm wrote:
Fail. It's not "between DGB and Xyl", it's "DGB clears Xyl".Tenchi wrote:
That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.Seraphim wrote:
All players, please. And list reasons. I'm guessing you don't believe that DGB cleared Xyl?Tenchi wrote:
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?
Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM
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You could have used rage in the last set of attacks...
DGB, please tell me you were still watching Xyl.Call me Tajo.
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You make good points. The only thing that bothers me about Nuwen is her Walt hammer and her drunk posts. Maybe its time the rabbit dies.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I do think Nuwen should die second, if copter is town. Nuwen has made thoughtful cases, she is willing to die to prove herself, and she suffered scum damage. Copter has been hiding behind his aggressive meta to kill townies without making the effort of trying to convince others of the merit of his cases. He didn't even want to stop double-hurting Xyl! It's as if he's using his power as much as he can, knowing he'll die quickly, but creating as much damage as he can in the meantime. He has suffered no scum damage. He's like a Kamikaze Seraph.populartajo wrote:Kay, kay, Im relaxing right now.
You prefer Nuwen. Why?
When the time comes, we should make a COLLECTIVE decision, say, with a 24 hour deadline.Call me Tajo.
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The issue of that is the fact that I'm not dismissing that there could be scum Ophan, given that Townies have roles too.Tenchi wrote:
Fail. It's not "between DGB and Xyl", it's "DGB clears Xyl".Xylthixlm wrote: That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.
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There is only 3 claimed Ophans. Nobody else seems to have hinted that he is an Ophan. Last game, town had 2 Ophans and scum 0 Ophans. Scum and town had both 1 Seraphim. It was a mini. Therefore, its pretty safe to assume that there are no scum ophans and that there are 2 Seraphims for side.Tenchi wrote:
How can you be sure?populartajo wrote:No. Scum dont have Ophans.
Anything else?
In the worst scenario, your flip is going to give us valuable information. Even if you are town.
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what the fuck are you talking about?roflcopter wrote:
by all means, if you die and come up town, i should die. thats not going to happen though. and tajo suddenly undermining his own voting system to force his will of a tenchi kill on the town instead of killing you is extremely obvious.Seraphim wrote:
After we kill me and I turn up town, we'll kill you. Or, rather, we kill you and you turn up scum first.roflcopter wrote:after we kill seraphim and he comes up scum, we kill tajo
scum sense the end is in sight. i imagine after tenchi town dies, then scum force through a decision on me or nuwen, kill me first and game over scum wins.
Im admitting the voting system is slow for this situation. And NOBODY was giving a shit about it. It was perfect before scum used rage on almost half the town. Its retarded now when we have evidence on people being scum.
You really think Tenchi is town?
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Ok, rolf kill this guy. I cant take out of my mind the idea that both him and Xyl are prob using me.Seraphim wrote:
Good, we agree on something.roflcopter wrote:
by all means, if you die and come up town, i should die.Seraphim wrote:
After we kill me and I turn up town, we'll kill you. Or, rather, we kill you and you turn up scum first.roflcopter wrote:after we kill seraphim and he comes up scum, we kill tajo
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Rolf do this. Seriously. Its the only thing you can do if you want town to win.populartajo wrote:
Ok, rolf kill this guy. I cant take out of my mind the idea that both him and Xyl are prob using me.Seraphim wrote:
Good, we agree on something.roflcopter wrote:
by all means, if you die and come up town, i should die.Seraphim wrote:
After we kill me and I turn up town, we'll kill you. Or, rather, we kill you and you turn up scum first.roflcopter wrote:after we kill seraphim and he comes up scum, we kill tajo
I am willing to die if my death causes rofl to die.Call me Tajo.
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Tenchi, pick one: heal me or heal me.Tenchi wrote:
Are you saying the best play for a Hidden Ophan to do is out himself at this point?populartajo wrote:
There is only 3 claimed Ophans. Nobody else seems to have hinted that he is an Ophan. Last game, town had 2 Ophans and scum 0 Ophans. Scum and town had both 1 Seraphim. It was a mini. Therefore, its pretty safe to assume that there are no scum ophans and that there are 2 Seraphims for side.Tenchi wrote:
How can you be sure?populartajo wrote:No. Scum dont have Ophans.
Anything else?
In the worst scenario, your flip is going to give us valuable information. Even if you are town.
What are you going to do when you are recharged?
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So you want me to help you with seraph but at the same time I am scum? How does this work?roflcopter wrote:
are you going to get your head out of your ass and help me?populartajo wrote:
Are you going to kill Seraphim, yes or no?roflcopter wrote:tajo is scum. you heard it here first, a long long time ago.Call me Tajo.
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would they be too obvious?roflcopter wrote:wagon built on him too fast. he's being made a scapegoat by all the scumbags. xyl never lurkerhunted him when he was actually lurking.
thats why i said that we need his flip. if tenchi comes up town, the scum would be obvious.
but i dont think he will. this player is not precisely the most protown in the game, ya know?Call me Tajo.
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I think he is scummy and I need his flip. Do I win a prize?roflcopter wrote:
no, stop that. see, this is why you are obvscum. you don't kill someone because you "need their flip." you don't kill someone because they're "not the most protown." you kill them because they are SCUM. and you certainly don't do a test lynch on somone when the scum could be one or two mislynches away from WINNING THE FUCKING GAME.populartajo wrote:
would they be too obvious?roflcopter wrote:wagon built on him too fast. he's being made a scapegoat by all the scumbags. xyl never lurkerhunted him when he was actually lurking.
thats why i said that we need his flip. if tenchi comes up town, the scum would be obvious.
but i dont think he will. this player is not precisely the most protown in the game, ya know?
scum make bad excuses to mislynch people. you are making bad excuses to mislynch tenchi. you are scum.Call me Tajo.
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Please scumlist updated NAO.Tenchi wrote:
My wagon came in IN TWO PAGES. After Tajo called it out. Then it's the Tenchi needs to die mantra.Seraphim wrote:
And you don't think the wagon built on me too fast? That the number of people going after my blood radically increased?roflcopter wrote:wagon built on him too fast. he's being made a scapegoat by all the scumbags. xyl never lurkerhunted him when he was actually lurking.
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You are not confirmed, Xyl. You could have used rage points in the latest rage attack.Xylthixlm wrote:
The irony here is that Tenchi is advocating a test lynch on me despite my being cleared by DGB.roflcopter wrote:
no, stop that. see, this is why you are obvscum. you don't kill someone because you "need their flip." you don't kill someone because they're "not the most protown." you kill them because they are SCUM. and you certainly don't do a test lynch on somone when the scum could be one or two mislynches away from WINNING THE FUCKING GAME.populartajo wrote:
would they be too obvious?roflcopter wrote:wagon built on him too fast. he's being made a scapegoat by all the scumbags. xyl never lurkerhunted him when he was actually lurking.
thats why i said that we need his flip. if tenchi comes up town, the scum would be obvious.
but i dont think he will. this player is not precisely the most protown in the game, ya know?
scum make bad excuses to mislynch people. you are making bad excuses to mislynch tenchi. you are scum.
Uh, helloo-oo?
Thats why I need Seraphim's flip too.Call me Tajo.
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no.roflcopter wrote:tajo, you need all these flips to determine what exactly? that when tenchi and i are dead the scum will win?
If seraphim is lynched and he comes up town then I can semiconfirm xyl as town and semiconfirm you as scum.
If serapgim is lynched and he comes up scum then I can semiconfirm xyl as scym and semiconfirm you as town.
See how this works?
We get rid of a scummy player and we semiconfirm a valuable player.
Follow my plan, NAO.Call me Tajo.
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What? Please, names.Tenchi wrote:
It's the same. With DGB at 3rd.populartajo wrote:
Please scumlist updated NAO.Tenchi wrote:
My wagon came in IN TWO PAGES. After Tajo called it out. Then it's the Tenchi needs to die mantra.Seraphim wrote:
And you don't think the wagon built on me too fast? That the number of people going after my blood radically increased?roflcopter wrote:wagon built on him too fast. he's being made a scapegoat by all the scumbags. xyl never lurkerhunted him when he was actually lurking.
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No. Can you confirm someone 100&. I dont think so. You just think he is more prob town or more prob scum. You lynch the prob scum and you save the prob town. If we fail, rinse and repeat. If we succeed, profit!roflcopter wrote:"semiconfirm" is a completely useless thingCall me Tajo.
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I demand an updated scumlist.roflcopter wrote:this game desperately wants fonz and firestarter to be more active, too many of the really active players are scum
Its pretty interesting that all players I think that you think are town are players that have not attacked you.Call me Tajo.
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There is only 3 claimed Ophans. Nobody else seems to have hinted that he is an Ophan. Last game, town had 2 Ophans and scum 0 Ophans. Scum and town had both 1 Seraphim. It was a mini. Therefore, its pretty safe to assume that there are no scum ophans and that there are 2 Seraphims for side.Tenchi wrote:
How can you be sure?populartajo wrote:No. Scum dont have Ophans.
Anything else?
In the worst scenario, your flip is going to give us valuable information. Even if you are town.
What are you going to do when you are recharged?
Did you read this?Call me Tajo.
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Seraphim you need to die. You are too scummy to be left alive. Your flip is valuable information, also. Sorry if you are town.Seraphim wrote:
So this doesn't get buried.Seraphim wrote:
Can you please answer my questions? Why am I scum? Kthxbai.Firestarter wrote:Can I get support to Hurt Seraphim please?
Im ready to unload a world of hurt on scum, before bed!!Call me Tajo.
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Okay, Ill ask this. ANYBODY THAT IS AN OPHAN SHOULD CLAIM RIGHT NOW.Tenchi wrote:
We have around ten players unclaimed, minus the firm believers (2-4 people) still gives us five(?) people.populartajo wrote:
There is only 3 claimed Ophans. Nobody else seems to have hinted that he is an Ophan. Last game, town had 2 Ophans and scum 0 Ophans. Scum and town had both 1 Seraphim. It was a mini. Therefore, its pretty safe to assume that there are no scum ophans and that there are 2 Seraphims for side.Tenchi wrote:
How can you be sure?populartajo wrote:No. Scum dont have Ophans.
I am not clearing DGB just because of his claim.
I doubt we get any responses but this might change your mind.Call me Tajo.
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The one where you are not cleared because DGB watched you in the massive rage attack. You could have used rage in the last small attack.Xylthixlm wrote:
Uh, which post? There's too much stuff going by right now.populartajo wrote:Xyl, please answer my post.Call me Tajo.
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I think it is. Until now, there is no reason to think otherwise, so please update your scumlist nao.Tenchi wrote:
The thing is, I don't think this is the right course of action for an Ophan at this point.populartajo wrote: Okay, Ill ask this. ANYBODY THAT IS AN OPHAN SHOULD CLAIM RIGHT NOW.
I doubt we get any responses but this might change your mind.
Let's see what happens.Call me Tajo.
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You know that our goal is to kill scum not save an Ophan, right?Xylthixlm wrote:
I'd like it to be as hard as possible for the scum to ragekill our last Ophan.populartajo wrote:
You are stalling Sraphim's result. Why?Xylthixlm wrote:Heal DrippingGoofballCall me Tajo.
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Will you still support that if I told you that you are not in the town list anymore?Xylthixlm wrote:Actually, it would be cool if everyone on your town list had at least 7 HP. I don't want more rage deaths.Call me Tajo.
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