Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[farside22]

Vote: DBG

Wagon hoe!!

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I could have sworn that all we had was a confirmation phase. Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

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I could have sworn that all we had was a confirmation phase. Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

What are you talking about?

People asked why DGB was still alive. My thought well because there was no night 0 that is why.
I just voted for her because she loves to BW me to death.

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I could have sworn that all we had was a confirmation phase. Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

Don't role fish.

(Another comment Camn can appreciate)

what? (on both counts)

"Fishing"

How is that fishing? People are asking DGB why she isn't dead? I'm asked the same. You joke claim results on camn. I'm like WTF did I miss something.

Yay I'm being voted for.

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You said:

Why is everyone act like we had a night 0?

I jokingly called fishing when you mentioned people acting like we had N0 because acting like we had N0 means night actions took place and you are trying to out people with night actions.

Are we reading the same game here?
When I see comments like why aren't you dead yet. I'm thinking wait did I miss something. That is far from fishing it's looking at people like they are off their rocker.

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Mod: Please note I will be on vacation from Feb 13th to Feb 16

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Yay I'm being voted for.

Hm?

Inside joke really. I never had a BW vote in RVS before. It's weird and comically all at the same time.

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Farside is still scum, BTW.

Ah pop you bitter about something.
Please share with the class. It's so much fun to hear about how in four pages you can make that statement.

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Prod received. Sorry I had to stay home with the little one yesterday unexpectedly. Much reading to be done.

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God I hate you people! First zwet I hate you for the chaos and confusion. Your happy butt made this game that much harder for replacements.
DGB I love to hate you. I get your comments on TSQ but why did you ignore tajo also attacking me?

Meant:

FoS: Hasdagfas and Farside

As well, sorry.

Why are you picking on farside? She's VLA, I believe she's coming back today or tomorrow. I wonder if she's enjoying seeing the grooves on those big Greyhound tires from beneath.

This comments is just too funny not to repeat

There are three assumptions behind the argument that I am busing farside:
1) Farside is scum
2) I am scum
3) I am actively trying to get farside lynched.

I say option 3

Scum suspects:

sam.samhorn - don't like his votes are comments
stark - no comments and vote caboose why exactly?
qwints - ugh seriously following much?
Jebus needs to either be asked to be replaced or be lynched.

People sam is obvtown. Quints its neutral at least.

FOS: TSQ and DGB

Where?

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Oh forgot to add tajo. Don't like his defending of sam from absolutely nothing.

unvote:
vote: qwints

FOS: tajo, sam, stark and jebus

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Oh forgot to add tajo. Don't like his defending of sam from absolutely nothing.

unvote:
vote: qwints

FOS: tajo, sam, stark and jebus

Again, scum wouldnt post this.

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

Also no comments of hascow?
Yep, I was right about farside.

I get hascow's paranoid reaction to the vig?? kill. As even though zwet was town and he made this game go to hell in a handbasket. And I didn't think he was scum and agreed with DGB (I'm going to hell now). All that said it made me wonder based on a few games (including my own) where that was a scum or town doing the kill.
He asked where else he role fished from TSQ.

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Oh forgot to add tajo. Don't like his defending of sam from absolutely nothing.

unvote:
vote: qwints

FOS: tajo, sam, stark and jebus

Again, scum wouldnt post this.

Vote: Quints

Thats completely unacceptable.

uh that was like the most townie-like reaction you could get

Also no comments of hascow?
Yep, I was right about farside.

I get hascow's paranoid reaction to the vig?? kill. As even though zwet was town and he made this game go to hell in a handbasket. And I didn't think he was scum and agreed with DGB (I'm going to hell now). All that said it made me wonder based on a few games (including my own) where that was a scum or town doing the kill.
He asked where else he role fished from TSQ.

Has is scum, yes or no?

I don't know.

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@KMD, I think its pretty safe to assume that Caboose isn't scum also. Scum stopping such a perfect D1 townie wagon its improbable, IMO.

So you think both are town strictly because they jumped off the wagon?

No. I think they both have more probs of being town for jumping off a wagon that was so perfect for scum.

Please I can't tell you what how faulty that thought process is.

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Very happy with farsides re-entry to the game, FYI.

I assume now that DGB will accuse me of buddying or some such.

Well not exactly buddying, but since you've been caught bussing, you're now doing a 180, hitting the brakes, and scraping farside off the asphalt with a velvet shovel.

Why do my questions get ignored?
Why do you think pop is town and why do you seperate what TSQ was doing versus Pop?

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Great now that TSQ is gone I'm beating DGB will continue with her bussing theory where I can laugh in her face when shown as town.
I completely understand TSQ's frustration as DGB is so narrow minded that she hammers people to death. Doesn't listen and then does petty things if people show she is wrong.
well DGB I'm not going to fight with you. I don't know what was with TSQ. I don't agree with you about tajo as if he doesn't know how scum especially good scum can make themselves look good by saying someone looks town and they are town. So that whole please explain is utter crap coming from someone with his experience.
Guess I will go back and read cow just to make tajo happy but I don't give anyone a free pass.

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What??????

Only three votes on Jebus?????

unvote:
vote: Jebus

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Why isn't there more votes on me I've been too quiet this game.

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Who said anything about lynching?

My vote goes off of him when he posts something useful.

So if he never posted anything useful, would you lynch him?

Yes

Interesting.

Why isn't there more votes on me I've been too quiet this game.

Are you planning on changing that?

I'll be getting to this today or tomorrow. Some of you people are so type happy. (cough DGB).

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I'm sorry the day's are getting away from me. I know x will vote for me for saying this but it's just busy RL things.
I'm still reading and will have something soonish.

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Caboose, Tar, Farside, Stark, Kore, Rogue- Who is scummier? Qwints or Cow?

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Whoever that lands on? Seriously I need to read the game to see what I missed. Last time I checked I was voting qwints.

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You're voting Tar.

Sigh. I really need to read this game.

unvote

till I read.

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Okay I'm reading the top 2 players in isolation.
Qwits. Sounds board. Mostly one liners and following and more following. Soft claimed vanilla. More one liners.
In short I think qwints is mostly board and behind in the game. I need to read Kmd's case on him but readin qwints alone I saw nothing but a board soul who is not helping the town. He seems bascially the way I feel.

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Now on cow:

Not sure why cow pushes zwet's claim. Did he not watch braveheart? The problem with asking about a confirmed townie is you don't know if a doctor or protecting role exsist in the game so why out that person?

there are plenty of ways for a role to avoid getting NK'd. But even if the dayvig was NK'd, I don't find that to be a huge negative. Sure, we lose a power role, but the scum could easily have made a more crippling kill than a dayvig.

Excuse me?

Later cow makes a case on kmd but later backs off and joins the qwints BW with nothing to add or say on it.
Yes I have been quiet. I hate, hate, hate day 1 in large games. That's why I would rather replace in a large game then start in day 1.

Between cow and qwints just the solo read alone I think cow is scummier.
I know this will be an odd thing to be picky about but I didnt' get the I will be gone for 4 or 5 days you can replace me if neccessary comment. It's only 5 days why state that you could be replaced? What mod would replace someone who is going to be gone less then a week? Plus it comes when he is getting pressure about his wanting the vig to claim.
Know no I'm not saying he planned it his leave and the pressure. I'm saying stating he can be replaced looks like a cheap way out. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I also don't like his vote on qwints with nothing there.

vote: hascow

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If hascow is telling the truth, he can be (1) nightkilled or (2) prove his ability.

Seeing cow's claim. Although I don't like it I agree with the above.

unvote:
vote: stark

I dont' agree with the qwints wagon at all.

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What I don't want to occur is hascow getting "roleblocked" for the rest of the game.

I can't get over crywolf's last post. And seeing that yos and tajo support the wagon makes me think that it has a crywolf lynch might have a chance today. See my previous post as to a reason for my vote.

Unvote

Vote: crywolf

And I don't like the smell of farside's last post.

Why would you role block a cop? He should give up something if he has info or he most likely will be killed by scum. I don't like the claim. Something feels wrong but I'm going to see if he comes up with anything as proff first. Why do you want him to not get results?

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What I don't want to occur is hascow getting "roleblocked" for the rest of the game.

I can't get over crywolf's last post. And seeing that yos and tajo support the wagon makes me think that it has a crywolf lynch might have a chance today. See my previous post as to a reason for my vote.

Unvote

Vote: crywolf

And I don't like the smell of farside's last post.

Why would you role block a cop? He should give up something if he has info or he most likely will be killed by scum. I don't like the claim. Something feels wrong but I'm going to see if he comes up with anything as proff first. Why do you want him to not get results?

EBWOP

Why do you want him not to get results if what he says is true.

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Why would you role block a cop? He should give up something if he has info or he most likely will be killed by scum. I don't like the claim. Something feels wrong but I'm going to see if he comes up with anything as proff first. Why do you want him to not get results?

Someone missed the point...

What I saying is that I hope hascows isn't scum and he'll just claim to be "roleblocked" at the beginning of each day in order to put off having to prove his role.

Also, are you seriously asking why a mafia roleblocker would role block a cop?

Your asking him to be blocked are you telling the scum to block him for a reason? I don't get why? I was a role cop and town once. It was quiet helpful even if the scum (cough another game with DGB) tried to make me look scummy for the role so don't mind be for giving him a shot.
Hascow can confirm town with that role. Did you miss that? I think you believe he is going to lie and with that you are giving him an out. Seriously we dont' know (execpt scum) if there is a scum role blocker but I would hope if we have a town role blocker they won't block cow.

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I'm curious about why you suspect Xyl.

I'm willing to wait until tomorrow. Deadline is coming up and I don't want to bring a new case just before deadline. We may or may not get a lynch as it is.

No, @KMD, share with us. In case you know, you arent alive tomorrow. And question, you dont find crywolf scummy?
@Caboose, I understand where you are going but its like you are suspecting something that hasnt even happened. Cow isnt unlynchable for the rest of the game. In the best case, scum are roleblocking a weak PR so that our most powerful ones can work efficiently.

I <3 you tajo

unvote:

because I won't be here for last minute voting and I don't believe qwints scum

vote: Crywolf

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crywolf is dead

Even better.

Kmd4390, Yosarian2.

Think of yourself as a blind man, guided by the hand of the sighted.

Read these two players' posts, and tell me which is scummiest, and why.

DGB you are hurting my head here. Why vote for stark. Why do you think yos2 is scum. I get kmd as some of his post have been off to me.

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I'm sorry for being VLA lately. I'm going to catch up tomorrow. I have SATs this weekend, so I've been busy with that.

As I am obviously at the mercy of my rediculous bandwagon I will claim.

I have been breadcrumbing the whole time with my "confirmed innocent".

I am Brian Boru. I have a passive ability that prevents me from being made to look like an outlaw.

This makes me think that there's a role out there, sort of a miller-maker.

Again, I'm really sorry for the slacking, and I will return to active participation as soon as I can.

I dubbed this the worst scum claim ever.

vote: Stark

I will have a comment for Kmd when I have time to get it together. Since Kmd will be out for a week I will make sure he is around to account for my comments.

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Just an fyi about what I find with kmd is meta. Being a mod and having kmd as town and mafia in my games sometimes I feel like I see a difference.

Kmd: Joke votes camn. I've seen him do this before with Zazie where they were both scum buddies.
I see nothing wrong with TSQ having a serious vote so early in the game. Why the issue?
Don't like Kmd's following of Yos on the Zwet wagon. Also this:

This is a good point. If he's scum dayvig, I don't want to give him a chance to shoot a townie.

Odds of shooting townie is higher. Scum however fear vigs more then town do.

I honestly don't think scum would come right out and say something like what Sam did just because of alignment. The argument on TSQ though, I can buy. Still think a Zwet lynch is better, but if that's not going to happen, I'm prepared to switch to TSQ.

IE: I will go where ever the most vote are and give up my push easily.


Why would scum use code when they can talk at night?

Makes a big post in regards to catching up but notice not really scum suspects.

Next post Does a PBPA on Qwints: Why him?
Personally I don't like catch up and then a PBPA on one player without a reason.

That's just my RVS style. I do it in pretty much every game I play with people who have been in other games I've enjoyed.

ORLY! Be back to this one in a second. Yup this is true. I see it now.


Buddies up to Camn a lot. Why you don't know her alignment right. Why buddy with her?



Qwints turned out town what does that say about your day 1 push?
Xly always lurker votes. It's a null tell.

Wait now tajo. What the heck happened with Xyl? Now Camn is on your list after all that day 1 buddy up?

Seriously I see soft scum bussing all over Camn on this.

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Qwints caught my attention based on gut. I looked into it and saw a case. I posted that case. Is that scummy?

Its scummy as it came from out of nowhere. Thin air PBPA without reasoning or thoughts before. Yay I see it as scummy. Or if you like better.
Scum attempting to look town.

How have I buddied with camn? And if you think I did, how was it any different from this game where we were both town?

Why buddy up? You dont' do it with Llama till you feel he is town. You don't do it with others I have seen in a game when your town unless you feel they are town. I know you and your defending me without a reason.
Yay all this just doesnt' sit well with me.

Qwints being town means I was wrong. What more do you expect me to say?

Why did you feel so strong about a case on him when his soft claim and comments didn't match up to your reasoning?
I mean seriously all you said after that case is I like Qwints lynch over and over again.

Xyl claimed and became basically confirmed. Why am I going to go after someone who is basically confirmed? And I can't be suspicious of someone if I previously thought they were town? Can you honestly tell me you have NEVER changed your mind on someone as town?

Why tajo? I understand chaning your mind but I've gotten nothing but town vibes from tajo.

See comments in bold.

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There were many times you made joke comments to Camn and back and forth but by for this quote was the worse I say.

Well... Camn says she's biased on me and I think I feel the same with her. I see her massively buddying up to Yos with the "legend" comment, but one of my points against her in Tranquility was buddying up to Rishi early in the game. Remember that she was town... I don't even know what tells to look for with her because I was so wrong on her in the other game. =/

Hey camn. Wanna use Zwet to see if my Gambit (actually an analysis strategy more than a Gambit when I use it like this) works better on a confirmed town wagon? hasdgfas, Thestatusquo, Yosarian2, scotmany12, sam.samhorn, Kmd4390. Those were the Zwet voters. (Actually, at quick glance, Qwints, Caboose, and Cow all were voting Zwet at one point too.) I bet we can find an experienced scum or 2 or maybe even 3 on this wagon. Qwints, Yos, TSQ would be my top choices. Cow and Scot are meh as well. So yeah, I'm doing this again based on the simple fact that Zwet was town. Stef being scum ruined the hell out of it last time. I'm gonna piss off Camn here and say this: My analysis strategy reinforces my scum read on Qwints. It also reinforces any suspicion I may get on any of these players later.

I need to read another game to see meta? Ugh do I have time for that right now?
No

Someone else want to fill me in if this was norm?

Please don't I consider it a null tell if so. Scum/ town it's easy to buddy up to people. I tend to believe scum before town in cases but if you have history of it in one game fine but that's one game. You show me other games I might reconsider it more.

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unvote:

vote: camn

See my post this page. I'm sure I don't need to say much more.

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I thought "buddying up" is something scum do with town players.

Not all the time. I've seen it as 50/50 in terms of buddying or distancing.

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I really feel Yos2 town over camn looking at Kmd but I'm willing to look at Rogue more a bit later.

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I'm less sure about scot, sam and farside. Farside was probably bus'ed by TSQ early on. Kmd's reactions to the farside/TSQ interactions are interesting to say the least.

This makes me lol.
Kmd did defend me during that time and question TSQ on the matter at hand. If you believe kmd is not one to defend his scum buddies but possible question them about their action I could see the TSQ/ Rogue connection there.

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This makes me lol.

Hehe, nervous lowercase LOL, looks like I caught another live one.

God the stuff you come up with is priceless. I love proving you wrong on me at least don't know about rogue. Or yos vs camn, but at least on me I look forward to seeing you eat your words.

Where is my BW that you love to push girl?

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This makes me lol.

Hehe, nervous lowercase LOL, looks like I caught another live one.

God the stuff you come up with is priceless.

Why thank you.

OK, I narrowed down the list, help us nail the remaining scum. As for Yos; he'll never give himself away. You have to look at how known scum interacts with him.

Well thinking about the TSQ and me interaction and throwning known scum kmd into that conversation I can see that connection.
Yos? Well I guess I will look that over but Camn interation makes me inch.

For now the TSQ/Rogue is enough for me to change my vote.

unvote:
vote: Rogueben

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I'm telling you I'm a betting women I see Camn over Yos as scum if I'm wrong I owe someone big.
When with Rogue be back?

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I still think stark's claim is a joke. I mean it sounds really bad on paper.

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vote: camn

Come on you said between yos and camn. yos is dead camn or stark seem like the obvious choices.

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I WANT BOTH KOREJORA AND FARSIDE TO CLAIM IN THEIR NEXT POST.

Why? Are you lynching me? Does your need for my claim mean that much in this game?

DGB I know I'm town. Dont know why you think Camn isn't scum but if you think stark is still scum and after the horride claim from him yesterday I would lynch him as well.

unvote:
vote: Stark

@tajo: Answer the above questions then I will claim.

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forgot to bold

unvote:
vote: Stark

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Why? Are you lynching me? Does your need for my claim mean that much in this game?

Yes it does, on account of TSQ's suspicious interactions with you. We want to be sure we're lynching the right player.

I dont' know about korejora, but I know I'm just a vanilla townie. Not worth crap in this game. My name is Dante Alighieri. I got a brief discription of the guy and my win condition is getting rid of threats to the town.

I hate being vanilla. I find it quite boring.

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I WANT BOTH KOREJORA AND FARSIDE TO CLAIM IN THEIR NEXT POST.

Why? Are you lynching me? Does your need for my claim mean that much in this game?

DGB I know I'm town. Dont know why you think Camn isn't scum but if you think stark is still scum and after the horride claim from him yesterday I would lynch him as well.

unvote:
vote: Stark

@tajo: Answer the above questions then I will claim.

Farside22, as official representative of the mason-vigs: Claim in your next post or die.

Same for Korejora and sam.samhorn.

Already did.

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I don't mind dying for a cause but might I inquire to Tar whether you and camn are confirmed town to each other?

[farside22]

I don't mind dying for a cause but might I inquire to Tar whether you and camn are confirmed town to each other?

Don't inquire about that, instead, ask that samhorn and Kore claim ASAP.

I asked because of another game I was in where there was a mason pair with a kill, however one was scum and the other was town.
It's a valid question.

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I don't mind dying for a cause but might I inquire to Tar whether you and camn are confirmed town to each other?

Don't inquire about that, instead, ask that samhorn and Kore claim ASAP.

I asked because of another game I was in where there was a mason pair with a kill, however one was scum and the other was town.
It's a valid question.

You know the masons were chosen by Xyl, who is a dead townie.

That doesnt mean that Xyl picked them all townies but hey I trust you.

Thanks you. I just brought the question up because of Tar's suggestion.

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Scot maybe town. Maybe he's trying to protect his scum buddy stark. I see going for the a lynch based on me without really looking at everyone kind of meh.
In other news yay I know my performance sucks but it's a null town and typically town tell meta with me. I just haven't found myself going ga ga this game as I do others. Pretty happy with my vote on stark.

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Did anyone here play shaft.ed Monty python game where there were 2 of the same characters and one was scum? I may haps think that is exactly what is going on here.

Between Scot and Kore I really dont know which without reading more into it.

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Leif Erickson is just a vanilla. Man I hope that's not true or I will have words with the mod on how great leif erickson was.

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Thank you for claiming.

STARK:
We don't have an alignment cop. Therefore, stark's claimed role, which is alignment-cop immune, is absurd.

KOREJOTA vs. SCOTMANY:
Korejora is meek and wimpy because she's lying. She didn't even vote scotmany. Scotmany, on the other hand, called her scum and voted her. I would put my money on Kore being scum, and scot being town. Also, Kore counterclaimed. She didn't claim first. She claimed second.

SLICEY:
Korejora wants Slicey to investigate HER. Possibly because Slicey and Kore are scum together, and Slicey will fake an Aquinas result on Kore, which they hope will make us lynch scotmany.

Thoughts?

Shot kore and get rid of the WIFOM.

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scot, why do you want a farside lynch?

Slicey: I hate to do the whole WIFOM, but do you think you can do your investigation and be here tomorrow to tell people the answer?

Sorry but I have to ask.

Second if the vig kills stark, which I support and since everyone seems to think camn is town for reason's beyond my understanding I still believe that lynched either Kore or scots is the best action as we don't know what tomorrow will bring.

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Stark should be vigged. Scot would be my second choice. I'm still trying to figure Sam out.

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Sounds good. Killing me will clear up a lot of confusion.

I think scot is scum now.

Seriously just give me a second here. If tar is correct town has this game in the bag. So why worry about be killed or lynched if you are town? You win with the town and if your death clears things up and means the town wins then so be it.


Waits for DGB to keep talking about day talking mafia agin.

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vote: sam.samhorn

It should be me or him today as the last vanilla's and unconfirmed in the game.

[farside22]

Don't look at me I keeping my vote there. I will be here tomorrow but this weekend will be more chaos.

[farside22]

Why is sam town over me tajo? I dont' care if you lynch me today. I even believe the lynch should be sam or me. That get's rid of town vanilla's with no confirmation.

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I will say Slicey still alive and looking into scot when it was clear that scot was going to be vigged tonight is questionable.

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its obvious from a reread and my feelings ALL the gam.
you are not playing your town meta and your play here reminds me of some play where you have been scum before.... (still ongoing but you know what im talking about)
and sam is too polemic to be scum.

vote : farside

i really REALLY prefer farside being lynched now instead of sam.
I also think Slicey is town.

I hope this game teach's you that your meta read on me sucks. Unless your scum and have everyone fooled but I don't believe you are scum I just think you need to adjust your thinking to the fact I HATE BEING VANILLA

[farside22]

I can't even go away for a weekend and you want to prod me!
No offense but I actually have a life and was celebrating Aerin's birthday on Saturday and taking care of him on Sunday so no weekend prods.

Now for flavor on my character.

I'm Dante Alighieri - time period is 1265 - 1321 I wrote the Divine Comedy. I'm a poet from Florence.
Townie basically.

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I still think it should be be or sam. I can't believe sam is getting a free pass especailly with his lurking and vote from people.

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Tarr you have a point I think I just have this sinking feeling in my stomache like something were missing.
Oh well I think hammering slicey may be the right thing to do.

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I really just can't feel comfortable with lynching Slicey. I don't know I just get this feeling like I'm being manipulated by Tar.
I really think Sam or I should be lynched and if you really feel Slicey is scum kill him tonight. I mean did he say he was immune to NK's or something?

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Tar, Ill give you my thoughts of your comments of farside after my showa.
Can you try a similar exercise with sam?
Camn, why the unvote?

Why don't you dispute it or explain how sam is town.
God I'm sick of your non responses. At least I'm stating a good reason for lynching myself or sam where both sam and slicey are attacking Camn and no one is f@#$ing paying attention to this????
My god and I thougth I was lazy this game.

Sam or Slicey. I prefer Sam because I think town should lynch the vanilla but that's my 2 cents. If Slicey is immune to NK then maybe he should be lynched today. I don't know he really hasn't said anything today that makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

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Tar you are assume. I really did believe the town play was to lynch a vanilla, but you called it.
Now I can do this.

TAJO TAKE YOU'RE META ON ME AND SHOVE IT!!!!

I feel better.