Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

[Pesco47]

Just caught up to the current stuff now.

Vote Empking

Not buying the claim. Survivor and no indication of being town in any case. Sounds like a claim that FL heard before not too long ago if she gets what I mean.

Fos Tar

Experimental to see if Tar-player can post more.

[Pesco47]

Im thinking. Empkigscum claiming survivor is retarded as scum. Then, he's prob the role he's claiming.
Lynching survivor D1 is retarded. We lynch survivor if we are close to Lylo.
Id rather lynch scum today, right?

Lynching survivor close to LyLo is retarded.

Fos Poptaco

[Pesco47]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

Things don't add up on this end. Especially if we're taking it that Empking is survivor.

[Pesco47]

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

Timestamp 10:15pm

unvote: stef for now as they did not react in a scummy way to my vote, and they were only hard on empking on one post after some reading, the shanki person he claims to be was the person in my pm that im ment to be able to talk to anyway, though im not familiar who that person is in present life

Timestamp 10:39pm

You realistically expected a response within 25 minutes RL...

[Pesco47]

I'm willing to bet there's an ultimate that has something to do with stuff happening to the mod.

[Pesco47]

Vote TehVariable

dahill covered it already with a FoS, I'm feeling it's voteworthy.

[Pesco47]

Phone post, stuff might be missing. I'll put a more conclusive one later with quotes.

@ dahill: I think the fake PR is scummy, but I've already taken action against it. Me voting him would be a waste of my vote.

@ SCoug: I'm reading all players as if they should understand that this game isn't normal. Variable's posting is non-contributive and as dahill called it, active-lurking. And going with the flow? Everyone voting qwints is the flow and seems like you want something out of it.

@ Variable: If SCoug agrees with you, where is your actual suspicion of me coming from? Lame OMGUS without putting your weight behind it is all I can say.

I'll put my votes, FoSes and quotes in order once I'm in front of a PC.

[Pesco47]

Not really. Meta me. It's not abnormal for me to play like this.

Meta defense sucks.

FoS qwints

(blakadder). Vote reserved until required for the lynch.

Unvote, Vote dahill

(TehVariable)

[Pesco47]

The claim sounds pretty reasonable. Does the ultimate only activate upon a lynch-death or any death causing effect? The wording leads me to believe lynching is the sole activating condition.

There's plenty of people one can chase after in a game this big. So I'm quite fine with leaving TehVariable out of further consideration in favour of contributing to the day's main topics.

[Pesco47]

And if you don't use it right now?

[Pesco47]

And if you don't use it right now?

[Pesco47]

Time zones suck, reading this game on a phone browser sucks.

I'm not really interested in pursuing DGB as I've already taken action there.

Malt seems pretty cleared to me after the flip.

I'm curious as to where the conclusion that poptajo is cult is coming from. It may be that I'm reading off such a small screen that I missed it.

[Pesco47]

Under some easily fulfilled conditions relating to the number of votes I get, I am not recruitable. That condition was satisfied yesterday, and on that day, I received a mod PM stating that I was targeted. I don't know by who, or in what capacity.

I'll claim the targeting. Every action I take will trigger when my ultimate activates. My ultimate happens when I die.

[Pesco47]

There might have been others targeting DGB too you know.

[Pesco47]

Pick someone other than DGB. it'll be redundant with my action.

I'd prefer to have the people I target still be alive when my ultimate triggers for maximum effect. Feel free to speculate wether it's a mass delayed-vig or something crazy, I won't be telling.

[Pesco47]

Pick someone other than DGB. it'll be redundant with my action.

I'd prefer to have the people I target still be alive when my ultimate triggers for maximum effect. Feel free to speculate wether it's a mass delayed-vig or something crazy, I won't be telling.

What???

You killed me?????????

FOOL

You want to die?

[Pesco47]

You get cleared when I die, whenever that happens. I'm just letting everyone know that wack-a-mole should be used on someone that won't be cleared any time soon.

[Pesco47]

Vote qwints

(Shadowgirl)

Come out from the sidelines please. The last 2 posts were just fillers for activity.

[Pesco47]

I'm in favour of Ceph wack-a-mole. I've already given why DGB shouldn't be WaM'd.

Unvote, Vote stef

(Ceph)

FoS Shadowgirl

. I still feel you're only posting to avoid being prodded.

[Pesco47]

I'm fine with believing you are neutral. But what doesn't go down so well, is that we have to let you win before we find out if you were telling the truth.

[Pesco47]

I'm in favour of Ceph wack-a-mole. I've already given why DGB shouldn't be WaM'd.

Unvote, Vote stef

(Ceph)

FoS Shadowgirl

. I still feel you're only posting to avoid being prodded.

Why would you think that?

Of all the subjects that came up for discussion today, you've posted more than the other lurkers. But, all you've done is give your stance on and then disappear. You've added nothing new to ideas going around.

I would still very much prefer a Pesco investigation, seeing as I'm having some weird feeling about her clearing DGB. :/

This is certainly more OMGUS than anything that I've done to you. When I claimed that DGB would be cleared, I also said it would only happen when my ultimate happens. For my ultimate to happen, I need to die. I don't care if it's by lynch or NK, as long as it happens, the people I've targeted will be cleared on my death as will I.

You're also quite sold on the idea that my ability IS a delayed vig. Why the paranoia?

For the record, my target list is qwints, Variable and DGB so far.[/quote]

[Pesco47]

Mod fix my tags pls?

[Pesco47]

Well tell me then, how many anti-town factions can tell town that they need to die at some stage of the game to be most useful?

[Pesco47]

Don't quite know who to go after in the midst of all these prod-countering posts.

[Pesco47]

Would a lyncher-lynchee make sense somewhere in here?

[Pesco47]

DGB died to the mod-SK. It seems whoever can kill is very paranoid about my ability being a delayed vig. I kinda like calling it that now.

[Pesco47]

If he's a cult leader, what's happening with his recruits?

[Pesco47]

Mod's pretty dead from the first post. Now that we know there's scum to be found, do we want to bust out my ultimate and see if I've hit any of them? I doubt I'll be NK'd by anti-town any time soon, so we'll have to go by lynch or a vig.

My targets again, in order: qwints, Variable, DGB (moot), Xyl

[Pesco47]

May I suggest lynching Rule 0? If it's out of the game, we get to see the rest of the rules right?

[Pesco47]

If cult in this game looks like the cult of pacifism in one of Tar's previous games, then cultists got an alternative second win condition, and can win by fulfilling either. Anyone think they know what the second win condition is?

The town win condition?


I wasn't being all that serious when I suggested lynching Rule 0, otherwise I would have voted. But since we got some interested players, anyone want to share their thoughts?

[Pesco47]

Cult recruits have to come from some faction don't they. I'm sure I remember seeing somewhere in this game that a no lynch would also be bad. I doubt it's related to a cult though.

[Pesco47]

Let's start off with the rule lynching idea. By the looks of the vote counts, rule 0 is in the same area as Tar. The votes on them didn't wrap and by association, voting rule 0 is about as good as voting Tar right now. The experiment is done, we'll get nothing out of it, so move on.

I offered myself as lynch today to try get my ultimate to trigger. It will confirm 3 players, but opposition to that idea was voiced:

Mod's pretty dead from the first post. Now that we know there's scum to be found, do we want to bust out my ultimate and see if I've hit any of them? I doubt I'll be NK'd by anti-town any time soon, so we'll have to go by lynch or a vig.

My targets again, in order: qwints, Variable, DGB (moot), Xyl

Well, maybe, but I don't think its a good idea to go right now. I've still got some questions I want to ponder and ask some questions of other people before we get that far.

I'm not getting the sudden vote on TV that came out of nowhere either. TV will get cleared if I die, so I'd rather see her still alive as I go. SC feels kinda weird in this exchange (probably just my bias to keep TV alive).

[Pesco47]

If someone died and was culted, would it show?

I think it's safest to assume "no". As I said, I have a strong suspicion that one dead player was culted at the time they died.

dahill1, Asuka Langley Soryuu (from Neon Genesis Evangelion), Townie Bodyguard, Excommunicated Day 3
veerus, Georgia Lass (from Dead Like Me), Townie Speaker for the Dead, Mysteriously Died Day 3

So which of these 2 would be the likely one?

[Pesco47]

If Tar can still kill, then I should let him off me when I've got a long enough target list.

[Pesco47]

So much for asking him to kill me then. Mafia Safeclaim ftw.

[Pesco47]

Mafia safeclaim
Mafia falseclaim
Mafia kill
Mafia groupkill
Mafia factionkill
Mafia nightkill

Any other variations we might have left out? Tbqh, if everyone spams out an ability name TarSK will still only get to kill one person.

[Pesco47]

How come you haven't done it on the other days?

[Pesco47]

How come you haven't done it on the other days?

[Pesco47]

A delayed-vig* on Shadowgirl is feeling like a good choice to me.

*Ability placeholder word

[Pesco47]

This game is turning out to be quite a Chekhov's Armoury for Tar to use in future.

[Pesco47]

I'm inclined to wonder who would claim victory in the rubble if I blow up every last remaining player as I go? That would be none of my concern by then.

Even though I've said my ability would be called delayed vig as a placeholder, are scum more likely to believe it really does what it says or would they think it does something else?

[Pesco47]

Was faking the PR the one and only way of activating the ultimate?

[Pesco47]

I wouldn't mind acting on Kinetic after all that back and forth.

Vote M-M

(Kinetic). Lynching is faster than waiting for me to die.

[Pesco47]

Why does that just read like an OMGUS from you?

[Pesco47]

When I offered myself to be lynched for my ultimate, you were quite against it. I can only assume by now that you've figured out exactly what my ability does. Scum wouldn't want me dead. Vote stays.

[Pesco47]

What if the unvotes work but votes after unvotes don't? Won't have we just reward the cult the game?

I see you have quite some obsession with cults? Explain how this situation would hand a cult the game?

[Pesco47]

The High Council must endure. Their lives are worth more than my own.

- Harriet Jones, M.P.

I think the cult is after this.

[Pesco47]

I'm in a catch-22 here. Let me explain.

I'm certain that the high council is tied to the cult's win condition. Malt's flip as a townie that was protecting the high council probably means the cult wants all council members dead.

My win condition is that of town's and my ability and ultimate require me dead to be useful in achieving a town win. However, I'm on the council and in helping town, I'm furthering cult.

The people I've targeted have been COP INVESTIGATED. My results are made public once I die, I do not know my results. The question here is, are my results worth giving cult their first step towards winning? I'd like to get mod-SK to kill me so that you'll get to start lynching without things going wrong over twilight.

[Pesco47]

I think it's a mod mistake. Why FoS when you can vote?

[Pesco47]

It'd be too late when we're in Lylo, whenever that is...

[Pesco47]

Vote hp

Obvcult.

[Pesco47]

Forgot the vote-wrap.

Unvote, Vote TV

[Pesco47]

The timing of each of my investigations would also impact on their validity if the cult had recruiting power.

[Pesco47]

Just looking at the flips again, we don't know if any other councilors have died. I wouldn't put it past Tar to have councilors on scum and town.

I think we may need to just forget about my ability for now and scumhunt as usual. Top scum suspect for me is Shadowgirl. Lot's of coasting under the radar and very little contribution.

[Pesco47]

@Pesco: I'm assuming you didn't use your ability on me yesterday, then?

Would you like to have been investigated?

[Pesco47]

I have the feeling Pesco is trying to swtich the attention from her "inevitable" lynch. I dont like it.
Pesco did you fully claim?
qwints and hp are also decent but I think its the time for the mass of information we could get of her "investigations". We have to kill her now.

Vote : populartajo

I have fully claimed except for my name and origin. I don't have a problem with being lynched, but I would like you guys to consider how close the cult could be to winning if I die. Had malt given no information regarding the high council in his flip, I'd be voting myself to get lynched too.

[Pesco47]

I don't know, do cops usually reveal cults in Tar games?

[Pesco47]

All except for DGB are alive. How many do you want to call it worthwhile?

[Pesco47]

Leonard from Memento. Apparently this guy has some kind of amnesia that prevents him from making new memories. I didn't bother to research the character.

Town cop, gets no results. My ultimate which triggers on death, will have the mod post all my results in thread.

Tagged as a high councilor, which may or may not have an effect on the game. I believe it does affect someone's win condition.

I'm feeling a little greedy and want 1 more investigation. There's plenty of reactions that we can go by to find a good lynch. For starts, I'm pretty set on hp being non-town.

[Pesco47]

One per night, add one for the double action day.

[Pesco47]

There's one dead-confirmed scum in there, we'll get 5 if there were no roleblocks or other funny stuff in between.

[Pesco47]

As long as I die, don't matter how. I've said it before on day 2 I think.

I don't recall anything in particular that I need to answer from Shadowgirl. Then again, I don't recall her doing much more than info-fishing.

[Pesco47]

I apologize to everyone in this game and to my replacement. I've just received word that my grandfather has passed away and will need to be replaced.

Please don't post any condolences as it would only distract the game.