Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

Stef · Post Post #139 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:05 pm

While doing my read..

"Hallowed are the Ori."

Star Trek Deep Space 9

Stef · Post Post #141 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:24 pm

Right! Stargate SG-1. Confused it with the Pah-wraith in DS9.

Did that actually warrant a vote Context?

FoS Context

Stef · Post Post #189 (isolation #2) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:45 am

I don't buy the claim. Why would a survivor only have that ability in a game where everybody has abilities? Like.. ok.. you claim so you get one shot NK immunity and that is all you have? Unlikely. I think that the claim is terrible and that you are lying.

Vote: Empking

FoS: PT

for continuously defending him.

Stef · Post Post #197 (isolation #3) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:10 am

populartajo wrote:We're going to lynch a claimed survivor D1? Really?

What don't you like about it exactly? Elaborate.

Stef · Post Post #201 (isolation #4) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:23 am

Mod: I thought i FoS-ed Tajo.

NOT AGAIN. -

Hans

Tar

Stef · Post Post #206 (isolation #5) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:18 am

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

Stef · Post Post #263 (isolation #6) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:30 am

So far Empking could be: Cult, Survivor, Scum, Mason. That pretty much makes the odds of him being something anti-town rather high right? Dunno. I don't believe his survivor claim but i'd like more input on the matter.

Stef · Post Post #280 (isolation #7) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:39 am

Hmm.. good question dahill.

I don't know if i should believe aries' claim right now but i'm happy with my vote.

Stef · Post Post #284 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:40 am

Aries what is your character name?

Stef · Post Post #287 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:45 am

lol.. in such a game if nobody counterclaims that is no ground for any confirmation of your role.

Stef · Post Post #294 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:52 am

lol.. you are being to paranoid. You won't be mod-killed for that little. Quoting a mod PM = actually quoting whole phrases.

Stef · Post Post #301 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:57 am

Yes, i noticed the inconsistencies. That's why i said i like my vote. Also.. are you sure it's shanji?

Stef · Post Post #304 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:57 am

Nvm.. you posted while i was writing.

Stef · Post Post #307 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:58 am

So you claim to be a Survivor Mason empking?

Stef · Post Post #315 (isolation #14) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:04 am

I do believe that once you hammered any further unvotes don't count. I'm not sure that was the hammer though.

It wasn't. - Tar

Stef · Post Post #319 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:06 am

I guess. We shouldn't stop while we wait for Tar though. Any other suspicions besides Empking?

Stef · Post Post #325 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:08 am

Ok.. so either we need 16 Votes to lynch or more. Good info to know nevertheless.

Empking so let me get this straight:
You self vote when you might have been at L-1
You unvote
You vote the person whom you were already voting for. That makes absolutely no sense.

Stef · Post Post #333 (isolation #17) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:14 am

Lol.. 16 votes on him and still not getting lynched. Empking are you trying to get yourself lynched or what?

Stef · Post Post #347 (isolation #18) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:23 am

Nothing he posted indicated he could have been a townie. Why suppose that now?

Stef · Post Post #354 (isolation #19) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:28 am

My guess would be that MafiaSSK was the one talking through Tar? Thoughts?

Stef · Post Post #356 (isolation #20) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:28 am

Ehm... on second thought that wouldn't make sense since Tar's vote was there for a while.

Stef · Post Post #360 (isolation #21) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:30 am

I don't think he was the "mysterious mod speaker" since the person using tar voted for empking some while ago. Tar also said that MafiaSSK was the hammer vote so that would disprove the first possibility.

Stef · Post Post #370 (isolation #22) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:36 am

HAH! I was right!

Stef · Post Post #383 (isolation #23) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:47 am

Tarhalindur wrote:
The game is NOT over. - Tar

Good

Stef · Post Post #431 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:42 pm

So YOU were the one behind context. Muhahaha. O_o

Stef · Post Post #433 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:58 pm

forbiddanlight wrote:I'd rather find out before we approach possible lylo. Earlier is better.

This.

Stef · Post Post #603 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:29 pm

Sorry for the lack of activity these last couple of days. So... our next lynch is tar, right? I see no reason to let a survivor live further and we can't risk having him near Lylo.

Stef · Post Post #662 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:50 pm

I think Tar is just trying to mess with our heads. He's a SK and there's no point in leaving him live since so far he has only "suicided" townies.

Vote MM ( Tar )

Stef · Post Post #665 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:54 pm

He also has death note.

And also.. why don't you stick with kinetic to spare you all the trouble?

Stef · Post Post #668 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:07 pm

Moo wrote: Also, where the heck do you get the 3 members of anti-town factions thing left?

From Tar's Role PM.

Stef · Post Post #669 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:08 pm

HASTUR HASTUR HASTUR ! O_o

Stef · Post Post #680 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:57 pm

And even if it weren't do we really want to wait until that happens? I don't.

Stef · Post Post #684 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:13 pm

qwints wrote:Never let a claimed sk live. Hascow, you're going to get pressured on that counting thing tomorrow.

Fail.. if you're telling him he's going to get pressured for something how is it supposed to be pressure?

FoS: qwints

Stef · Post Post #686 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:14 pm

Context wrote:
veerus wrote:Fair enough. I'm for the lynch, but would like to see some more people post. I'm going to sleep but will likely vote tomorrow night if more than the same 4 people post.

Since you agree his ultimate is not active yet, do you agree then that Tar did NOT kill TCS last night? That's all I was trying to say.

Context wrote:Death Note is COMPLETELY separate kill ability.

Context wrote:And he can kill without it active

Tarhalindur wrote:Your kill method is "suicided".

Tarhalindur wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer, Teal'c (from Stargate SG-1), Silent Townie, Suicided Day 2
AND FOR THE GRAND DADDY OF IT ALL:

Tarhalindur wrote:So, yeah... I'm an SK, and I killed TCS.
....

Veerus. Tar killed TCS.

OFMG pay attention.

Hah.. QFT.

Stef · Post Post #690 (isolation #34) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:39 am

Please elaborate malthusis.

Stef · Post Post #694 (isolation #35) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:48 am

PJ why are you so quick to vote before malthusius has a chance to answer?

Stef · Post Post #695 (isolation #36) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:48 am

EBWOP: PT*

Stef · Post Post #697 (isolation #37) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:53 am

I have an ability I need to use right now.

This would indicate otherwise.

Stef · Post Post #707 (isolation #38) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:58 am

unvote

FoS PT

I'd say we wait and see if tar gets killed.

Stef · Post Post #710 (isolation #39) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:01 am

I find it very odd that although you acknowledged his post you still voted for tar. There was no rush and yet you felt the need to add to the wagon.

Stef · Post Post #711 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:03 am

Mod: can we please get a prod on Kairyuu? Thanks

Stef · Post Post #866 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:46 pm

Let's imagine the following hypothetical situation:

A player is considered scummy.
That person is town.
A unique opportunity to investigate that person appears.
That person tries to avoid getting investigated so the town doesn't waste an investigation.
People see the reluctance to get investigated as a genuine good intention to help the town?

That's a logical fallacy and you appear to be biased. I don't like how you are ok with the idea of wasting an investigation based on your gut. How is that good for the town?

I think we should choose the scummiest player to investigate and at the moment DGB, although with some shady things, doesn't look like the best target for me. I, personally, would chose Tajo for the investigation as he has been more reluctant to answer anything so far and has been acting very weird indeed.

That's why i will do the following:

Vote Seraphim

(tajo)

Stef · Post Post #868 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:04 pm

I think it's still flawed. You never said gut but you said "I kind of think she is now". That isn't really a rationality is it? That's why i counted it off as gut.

Biased = "the last two times I thought she was scum, she was indeed scum. I kind of think she is now."

Anyway, this might just be me nitpicking since i've noticed lately that i overdo it a lil bit when i get tangled in details and start quote wars because of it and get totally derailed.

I'm fine either way. I prefer Tajo.

Stef · Post Post #870 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:44 pm

iron-clad?

Stef · Post Post #991 (isolation #44) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:09 am

dahill1 wrote:kairyuu mind telling us the truth?

Stef · Post Post #1033 (isolation #45) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:21 pm

I'm all for LAL. You guys say he can't hurt us.. YES HE CAN! He has plenty of abilities left that we can't possibly predict if they will help or harm the town. And i don't buy the 4 times dreams of reality + origin claim for one bit and i deff don't think Tar would have made a self-aligned role that doesn't harm the town in any way and that would have such a winning condition. It just feels fake like plastic. If you really are self-aligned i'm more than sure you have anti-town traits. I'm all for lynching you and stop invoking lylo as a defense since we're still far from it and IF you are lying like you have lied before then the longer we keep you alive the harder it will be to kill you. That's a damn fact.

Stef · Post Post #1034 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:25 pm

Also Kai, about the pulling the thingy out of your ass, you could always have a fake-claim ability or start reading now and invent stuff. That's not any defense by any standards... especially in a MS game.

How about investigating shadowgirl? She's been shadowy enough...

Stef · Post Post #1035 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:25 pm

And tajo has been laying kinda low for my taste after all that fuss earlier. Convenient.

Stef · Post Post #1046 (isolation #48) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:39 am

Teh.. one problem with your line of thought. How do you know Kai's abilities are pro-town? Really.

Also.. (a lil bit weird self-voting

)

Vote Stef

(cephir)

Stef · Post Post #1050 (isolation #49) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:50 am

Ok.. one true thing about his claim ( as proven with his previous claim ) doesn't mean that he's telling the truth. The fact that he used Dreams of Reality doesn't tell us anything really.

Also, going what it

used to

be in the past is not a good idea since it's pretty clear that almost everything is different this game.

Stef · Post Post #1051 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:55 am

Also, A LOT of people lurking. I don't like that one bit. Hasdgfas, The internet ( who said that he'd catch up a week ago and hasn't posted since), MM, Electra and ZazieR need to post. Not to mention the ones who have posted recently but have failed to post anything of content.

Stef · Post Post #1056 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:19 am

Also, A LOT of people lurking. I don't like that one bit. Hasdgfas, The internet ( who said that he'd catch up a week ago and hasn't posted since), MM, Electra and ZazieR need to post. Not to mention the ones who have posted recently but have failed to post anything of content.

Stef · Post Post #1057 (isolation #52) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:20 am

Damn cpuqota .. sorry for the double post.

Stef · Post Post #1062 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:12 am

Why couldn't he? I think it's a plausible explanation considering he had no problem lying and fake-claiming before.

Stef · Post Post #1109 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:21 pm

The choice today i guess is between Kai and Taj. I'm leaning towards Kai for today because:
- He has lied before and we have no reason to believe him now
- Even if we do believe him now he might end up hurting the town and with a cult out there i don't think we can afford having a loose thread out there like Kai.

kai wrote: I have no kill that I know of

So because you

don't know

if you have a kill then we should just have faith in a self-aligned role and let you live? Why would that be good for the town?

kai wrote: How likely is it, even in a Mind Screw game, that we have a scum group, a cult, and 2 SKs? I'm not seeing it is all that likely, but it is ultimately up to you.

Setup speculation like that is pointless in a MS game. We have no guarantee that there actually is a scum-group. The only thing we're sure of is a cult, one or more SK's, town-aligned roles and self-aligned roles. The only thing we're sure you're not is town-aligned. Why should we let you live again? It would give us more info and remove a threat to the town.

I see no reasons to keep you alive.
I see good reasons to lynch you today.

vote: Malthusis

(Kairyuu)

Stef · Post Post #1115 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:35 am

veerus wrote:Why are you going after a player most agree is a neutral? Whatever his abilities are, they affect everyone. Let's try and lynch scum
instead.

We have a lot of lurkers still. If you all really want to do a policy lynch, let's lynch a lurker instead.

How is he neutral? He is most likely self-aligned. I wouldn't go so far as to call him neutral. How are most players agreeing that he's neutral and that we shouldn't go after him?

As far as the "whatever his abilities are, they affect everyone"... if we would follow this line of thought we should let SK's live. They affect everyone as well.

How is this a policy lynch? Also, at this stage of the game, due to lots of lurkers, i'd prefer getting them to post rather than lynching them since policy lynches on lurkers with so many of them would ruin the game and be stupid especially since there's a good chance we'd end up killing a townie without learning much due to us lynching a player who hasn't shown any connections.

Your last post is very interesting. Logical fallacy, anti-town suggestion, assumptions that can barely be called facts..

Stef · Post Post #1117 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:40 am

EBWOP: That can barely be called fact*

FoS: Veerus

Also, your lastest suspect list had Cephir and Seraphim on it. Cephir has been confirmed as townie and Seraphim, although he hasn't contributed much to the game yet, has proven Kai has lied. You believe Tajo's claim and you don't think Kai should be lynched.

Who are your suspects? Who would you want to see lynched?