Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Ranger]

Ultimately your choice though. Unless this day quickends in the next 37 hours (the day needs to last 72 hours for my vigshot to activate), I have satisfied every other necessary component to vigshot you. Either you start being honest with the town about your role or I'll just have the mod be honest about what your role was.

we have death millers already, what makes you think de70's role will be real too?

Claim your night action?

targeted bingle, he's hated now

So you targeted a

bulletproof

player, who if they're town is a

bulletproof townie

a

negative utility

modifier?

what's the issue

What's the issue with targeting a town bulletproof townie to give them an explicitly negative utility which has a negative impact on their role?

I'd think that explains itself.

[Ranger]

Are we really not going to talk about how Anix is going to vig DragonEater who is omega towny

I'm not enthused about the prospect myself; there's little I can do to stop it aside from stating my strong disagreement.

[Ranger]

wait ranger didnt you target theta

No, Theta's modifier makes her a cop right now. Technically, I did submit a target, yet after the deadline for night had passed so I likely no-actioned last night.

[Ranger]

A bunch of people SR'd Drew, then the slot got double replaced and now it's not as scumread I think?

Sadly. The slot's definitely scum.

[Ranger]

is it just meuh/cook lmao

Rare as it may be, sometimes, games really

are

that easy.

We should always

assume

it's not that easy. We lose nothing by preparing to be wrong, and can potentially gain things if we are. Most games which seem too easy, are.

However, as MBOS showed, sometimes the obvscum actually are scum, with the town having accurately pinned them.

I'm definitely down to yeet Cook then Meuh to test if this game joins the rank of exceptions to the rule.

VOTE: Cook.

[Ranger]

can i dissuade my wagon from voting me for any reason or is this kind of a foregone conclusion

You can certainly attempt to.

However, the same reasons still apply.

There’s guaranteed scum in my group of four.

I know it isn’t me, so it must be {Cook, KKFC, CCS}.
You have partner interactions with both Yimmy's slot and Meuh's slot, as well as game-long suspect play.

You could sway me to yeet Meuh first,

maybe

; regardless, the elimination should never be outside you two.

[Ranger]

Strange. Who could be Ninja?

My guess is either Cook or Meuh.

[Ranger]

v/LA ~24 hours

VOTE: Meuh

[Ranger]

actually lets keep meuh alive for today: either shes nightkilled or she gets a result

I understand the desire to wait, to be cautious, in case Meuh isn't scum.

However, as I'm rather certain Meuh's the last scum, a Meuh elimination would just end the game in a town win.

We also have a notable townpool.

{Ranger, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanclub} are conftown from being in Cook's role group.
ofrhz's conftown from having shot scum.

We've got nine alive.

If you townbin AniX, then yeeting {Meuh, Skygazer, Ircher, Save The Dragons} brute forces a win.

We don't need to wait for a hypothetical result from Meuh. There's only one scum left alive, so we've got four eliminations with four in the suspect pool.

I'd prefer Meuh > Skygazer > Ircher > STD here. We'll almost assuredly win before we get to STD, because the final scum is in that pool.

I prefer Meuh first because Meuh's

not

playing like her town self and I can accurately read her predecessor Doctor Drew and he was scum, too.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Ircher
Sure, why not.

Begin the purge?

[Ranger]

V/LA 9/28 - 10/7.

Will be out of state.

[Ranger]

i think its just ircher tbh, the silence feels like resigned scum

It's certainly possible.

My bet's still on the Drew slot, personally.

[Ranger]

There are two likely worlds in existence right now:

- I am lying about delaying Meuh. If I am lying at this late stage on something so substantial and you truly believe that, I HAVE to be the evil one and you should lim me. But if that's the case, Meuh isn't the evil one because there is only one left and it's me.
Conclusion: Meuh is good.

- I am not lying about delaying Meuh. A kill went off last night, I checked with xyzzy who confirmed it effects factional kills. Meuh's action was delayed last night but the Mafia action went off.
Conclusion: Meuh is good.

There is another option;
Scum are under no obligation to truthfully roleclaim.
There’s multiple scum roles which could cause your action to fail.

It’s true enough;

if

Drew is an Eternal Universal Backup, Meuh wouldn’t have a mechanism to prevent your action.

Until Meuh can actually

prove

she has that role, I’ll remain skeptical.

[Ranger]

I inherited DE's role (that vig shot was uh not great)
Did not get Theta's role, so Theta's death is considered to have happened before DE's death? Not sure why

I inherited DE's role (that vig shot was uh not great)
Did not get Theta's role, so Theta's death is considered to have happened before DE's death? Not sure why

ask the mod

Yeah good idea, just did!

Okay yeah, DE's death happened after Theta's

Remember, we never got any players to verify any of this.

We never asked if DE's backup rolecop would cause a backup rolecop to inherit the rolecop.
We never asked if the mafia kill comes before or after a vig kill, which would determine this.
We quicklimmed Cook before asking questions about the roles, so we've only Meuh's word about Meuh's role.

[Ranger]

I inherited DE's role (that vig shot was uh not great)
Did not get Theta's role, so Theta's death is considered to have happened before DE's death? Not sure why

I inherited DE's role (that vig shot was uh not great)
Did not get Theta's role, so Theta's death is considered to have happened before DE's death? Not sure why

ask the mod

Yeah good idea, just did!

Okay yeah, DE's death happened after Theta's

Remember, we never got any players to verify any of this.

We never asked if DE's backup rolecop would cause a backup rolecop to inherit the rolecop.
We never asked if the mafia kill comes before or after a vig kill, which would determine this.
We quicklimmed Cook before asking questions about the roles, so we've only Meuh's word about Meuh's role.

It should be noted; tonight, Meuh should be getting a result tonight, so that’s another player a scum-Meuh would be forced to clear when we already have a lethal POE.
I’m okay letting Meuh live one day, in case Ircher is scum, in case Meuh is town, in case scum fear Meuh, in case Meuh helps the PoE.

I’m not letting the unverified player slide by on a fakeclaim when they’re my top scumread by play.

[Ranger]

we're killing ircher and then hopefully the game just ends

Ircher -> Meuh -> Skygazer would be my preference.

[Ranger]

This is a game where I was wrong on most things, yet somehow, still did my part helping us win.