Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

[Firebringer]

i do get the hesitance for pushing pinkie, Shea.
But he is the one i feel most like could be scum here this whole game. And unfortunately he might be even more annoyed that i don't have a case on him to explain those reasonings out in a well organized and thoughtful way for him to try to argue against it.

I am vibing he is off this game. Not much for him to argue/fight me on it i guess. Which will be more annoying but thats where im at.

I could try to go through his iso to develop those feelings into a digestable read that he can fight me on when he gets back

[Firebringer]

i feel black is more stilted than usual. Don't know if this means anything.

You said the same thing in TM lol. I think you're just bad at reading me tbh

ur sample size is 2. I have read you right in one, and i could debate you on the second since i eventually ended up on town you. I said it was you or shea and it was shea. but ill give that one to you since i took forever to getting you to a townread.

So im 1-1 on you.

[Firebringer]

What's your read on me this game?

Null

[Firebringer]

also im kind of bored with the whole "you can't read me right' thing. Seen it too much lately, and it can be true or accurate but throwing it out there is usually just a manipulation tactic i think. It could be done by town, ive seen town do it. But lets see the last 3 times ive seen someone do it, in fact team mafia is a good example. It was done by scum. [Looking at you shea]

So i give you +2 scum points Black

[Firebringer]

i wonder when is the last time i accused someone of just being bad at reading me.
I don't think i throw that out much.

I guess i could have thrown it at wheme since wheme has a habit of just FoS me every game and i just laugh at it. But i don't usually just say wheme is bad at reading me i usually say "wheme you do this everygame do something different"

[Firebringer]

ive been thinking of having STARgazer in the elite 6 for awhile. Elite 7 does sound more catchy.

[Firebringer]

if i just start adding people though then it will soon become not elite to be a member
maybe we just have STARgazer beat us all up in pokemon battles to secure a slot for them

[Firebringer]

flavor im never worried that ur pocketing me.

[Firebringer]

flavor im never worried that ur pocketing me.

Fire just accepts the pocket and that way they'll never need to worry about anything.

i don't need to be paranoid until like day 5 if we are both still in game when one of us should be dead. Most likely FL

[Firebringer]

I joined the wagon because Wheme has been promising ISO dives for a few days now and still hasn't delivered

man if i got wagoned for everytime i failed to deliver on a promise of an iso dive.
i would be elimmed every game

[Firebringer]

im not interested in black vs flavor. should i be?

[Firebringer]

Chandra what should i be interested in.
Tell me what i should care about

[Firebringer]

im not interested in black vs flavor. should i be?

raithe.

Raithe paid me a good amount of pokeballs to not vote them

[Firebringer]

Chandra what should i be interested in.
Tell me what i should care about

I'd enjoy your takes on Cakez and Meuh, if you haven't given them yet.

I'm also interested in who you might think is slipping through the cracks right now, but a new wagon at this point may be counterproductive.

Cakez - i feel is scummy but using the reverse reading method of me always being wrong on cakez that must mean he is town
Meuh - no strong opinion. Could vote her

my offer is if you vote him I'll consider not bubblebeaming u.

ur attack will not be very effective

[Firebringer]

ohh wait meuh replaced patch. I thought patch was probably town.
So i guess i got nothing spicy for u

[Firebringer]

ohh wait meuh replaced patch. I thought patch was probably town.
So i guess i got nothing spicy for u

Those wouldn't have been spicy anyway. Who *is* scum then?

Probably should ask the mod. I got no idea my vote is still on pinkie because he is my best gut feeling in this whole game.

[Firebringer]

Get fucking real FB

I refuse. i will be a growlithe forever

[Firebringer]

By the way, Metens is still scum.

Could vote this but its def not spicy

[Firebringer]

i am def too widely townread. maybe thats why i feel so wanderless.

[Firebringer]

Would it help if I started pushing you?

but then i would know its not real and i wouldn't even think u doing it is alignment indicative.

maybe u should try tho.

[Firebringer]

is black gonna realize arguing with flavor does nothing at some point

[Firebringer]

i am def too widely townread. maybe thats why i feel so wanderless.

I don't remember this being a thing. How many people townread you?

idk. im not scum keeping a running tally.
i don't think anyone scumreads as far as i can tell

[Firebringer]

FB how about you stop hiding behind a “gut read” on me and actually do something

ohh wait do u scumread me now

[Firebringer]

i think its fair for pink to be annoyed at me for holding onto a gut read with no strong points to it at page 144.

if pink thinks im scum for doing so, we can have a different conversation.

so i want him to pinpoint where he is with me so i know what he is at

[Firebringer]

I mean you have done fuck all this game.

You havent even pretended you wanted to!

i warned everyone at the start this is a meme game. Its alisae lolbalance.
Some of yall want to take this more serious than i will ever take it.

if you compare a normal player level of giving a fuck as a base line of 5
I am usually at a 3
this game my baseline is 1

[Firebringer]

i mean i don't think this is a case of scum just REALLY want to keep Rathe alive

[Firebringer]

FB how about you stop hiding behind a “gut read” on me and actually do something

ohh wait do u scumread me now

No, I want you to do something with your vote

You want me to push you harder or something because fmpov ur my biggest scum vibe/read that i want dead. The only way i can be doing something more with my vote is spamming vote tags at u and pretending i have a much bigger high brain read on you then i do

[Firebringer]

Fucking scumteam I don’t know who you are but I know that you had a previous conversation about me and knew that the only way to get rid of me was to me make this game as miserable as possible, so fuck you, whoever you are

i am gonna assume u are miserable in this game.
But these posts do nothing for me and if ur only doing them to vent go ahead.
If this was made with intention of conveying a message to me or anyone scumreading you.

I fully expect scum!you to easily make this post.

[Firebringer]

hope you are having a good day

[Firebringer]

have i mentioned this is an alisae game

[Firebringer]

only positive shit posting vibes allowed

[Firebringer]

I was tired! I had like 16 hour work days. And I feel like I was catching my footing here.

Convenient you wait to push me until after I vote you.

as someone who has done audio for (small) video shoots i can 100% understand flavor just being too wiped to play

Confirmed Stargazer is aligned with Flavor.

[Firebringer]

the whole "flavor is lying about his rl reasons and came in here just to opportunity push pinkball to divert away from allies" is kind of wild to me.

[Firebringer]

Granted I only have experience with PB in Demon Slayer(I think?).

Not used to their aggressive, and their push on FL seems so contrived.

And I don't fully trust FL, but I will give them a little bit of a longer leash.

#vibez

Remember how in demon slayer i advised never to push Pinkball.
You are seeing why.

Its unhealthy for gamestate but he is also a scumread of mine. So i am to blame for all this. Kind of think i should get some scum points for this.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
just to make shea prophecy true

[Firebringer]

If he flips red though that clears you because I don't think in a million years you'd bus PB as your teammate on day 1. Are you sure you want that?

Very good point

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
just to make shea prophecy true

Is this a trick? You must know the only thing that would truly tempt me off my rathe wagon would be policy limming NM.

would i ever trick u

[Firebringer]

Pre Edit: I have noticed this trend when PB gets pushed now Fire lol

Honestly I didn't know it was a trend and I'm kinda upset no one brought it up earlier when I asked if town PB does this

I thought i did

[Firebringer]

Suggesting that when I get pushed I make the thread unhealthy is so fucking heinous, what a miss representation of how I play and who I am

You honestly not seeing your affect on the game thread is really disappointing.

[Firebringer]

Suggesting that when I get pushed I make the thread unhealthy is so fucking heinous, what a miss representation of how I play and who I am

You honestly not seeing your affect on the game thread is really disappointing.

And its not an attack on you personally. Just stop doing it.

[Firebringer]

This isn't personal

[Firebringer]

This is a game. An ALISAE game

[Firebringer]

Telling you what i think of your play in a game isn't personal. I like you personally

[Firebringer]

What I quoted is not related to this game, is related to a general view of how I play

Me telling you, I have seen you do this in multiple games. Is also not personal. You associating your trend to this being your playstyle and this being you is not what im getting at.

[Firebringer]

i am THE FUN

[Firebringer]

It's a difficult game sometimes

i disagree
game is easy
Everyone is making it harder by taking it seriously

[Firebringer]

want to join the not mafia wagon now///

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Pink ball

[Firebringer]

For some reason I imagine lld saw pinkie getting pushed and was like “hold my beer I can turn this slot around” and that’s how we got here

[Firebringer]

Pretty sure we are all aware of that

[Firebringer]

For some reason I imagine lld saw pinkie getting pushed and was like “hold my beer I can turn this slot around” and that’s how we got here

Turn a scum slot around? Or save a town slot.

I think u know where I stand

[Firebringer]

the replace out means nothing to me.

[Firebringer]

yeah im known for being very worried about other players

[Firebringer]

What if we voted metens

only if you give me 10 rare candies

[Firebringer]

Hi LLD. So... think you can fix this mess?

You should ask her in our scum PT instead

[Firebringer]

yeah im known for being very worried about other players

Yet you mention that you think LLD will turn that slot around.

Again, poisoning the well.

Look, I was trying to poison the well.
But i didn't have any arsenic.

So I just threw a ton of nuclear waste in there
But the well wasn't posioned to my satisfaction.
So I went and got a bunch of red bull

THrew it in.
Now you can't drink from it anymore,
should have skipped the nuclear waste.

[Firebringer]

For some reason I imagine lld saw pinkie getting pushed and was like “hold my beer I can turn this slot around” and that’s how we got here

bruh you think i read games i'm not in you're wild lmfao

i'm in Champs rn, i ain't got time for that. I picked this up cause ali talked about it in the discord as a replacement need

Don't fucking ruin my fanfiction

[Firebringer]

hey LLD how do you feel about me trying to poison your slot with a bunch of Red Bull

[Firebringer]

LLD ur new around here in this game but we have a process for deciding an elim here.
We don't elim people.

We just argue a bunch and move around between wagons and complain about it.

Don't mess up our good process.

[Firebringer]

see, shea gets the process

[Firebringer]

im sure she would just see u alt slip in another page or two even if she didn't read back.

[Firebringer]

LLD does it change ur opinion of Magical girl at all to know that slot is GIF

[Firebringer]

If I had a dayvig right now I would dayvig myself.

Maybe you should fake one on yourself and test ur reaction.

[Firebringer]

LLD does it change ur opinion of Magical girl at all to know that slot is GIF

[Firebringer]

I wasn't going to do this until much later.

But why not now

Trade Request: Lady Lambdadelta

I can trade pokemon once in the game if other person accepts we trade pokemon.
What say you LLD

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Magical girl

i can't trade pokemon

that was my vig reaction test for u

[Firebringer]

Oh.

Well that's a terrible reaction test because I'd always accept that because I have to assume a power like that wouldn't switch alignment only role.

I guess it does preclude me from having a really obviously scummy role set or power?

Eh, it probably makes me more town to have agreed, sure.

i also mentioned much earlier i had a shit pokemon so think scum you would check my iso on that.

[Firebringer]

but given you say you had a shit pokemon. That kind of nets to nothing if you thought your scum pokemon was worthless no matter what.

but the point of scum role set or power don't want me to know about it is good enough for me to leave u at probably town for accepting

[Firebringer]

Granted I only have experience with PB in Demon Slayer(I think?).

Not used to their aggressive, and their push on FL seems so contrived.

And I don't fully trust FL, but I will give them a little bit of a longer leash.

#vibez

Remember how in demon slayer i advised never to push Pinkball.
You are seeing why.

Its unhealthy for gamestate but he is also a scumread of mine. So i am to blame for all this. Kind of think i should get some scum points for this.

Don’t forget my scummy shade on them earlier.
I want some of those scumpoints too you hoarder.

you couldn't earn scum points if you tried my friend

[Firebringer]

was today a better day for you norwee

[Firebringer]

firebringer has moved up a bit on the mafia lvl for me due to how he was playing against pink ball n now lady

Level 99.
Been eating lots of those rare candies

[Firebringer]

ive decided Black is town

That isn't helpful when i really need strong scumreads
But that is what i have decided.

[Firebringer]

i should really look at who is calling her scum because when i was scum in demon slayer, for some strange reason my first inclination on who to push was Black before she subbed out. I wonder if other scum players feel that same inclination and i should look in the people pushing her

[Firebringer]

Wait, wasn't the first thing that scum shea do in TM was also heavily FOS and poke and prod on Black before he pocketed her

Sensing a theme.

[Firebringer]

Black can u give me a list of names of people who have FOS you this game. I want to deep dive them. I think im onto something.

I think FL, Pinkie and a few others did so

[Firebringer]

my theory is that someone who has pushed black is def scum and that black is a scum magnet to fake scumreads.

GOT TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE.

Detective growlithe on the case

[Firebringer]

Also maybe we should just consider a few people for limming to hyper focus us all on those select few. No more arguments about anyone else or vanity wagons.

I am proposing the Firebringer Trademark - Elim Pool Raffle.
Each player will select one person not including themselves to remove from the voting pool. The last three players (in other words lurkers) don't get a vote. Then of those 3 wagons. One of those gets elimmed and we won't have these vanity wagons or get to page 200, which i think would be super funny but for game health im willing to help the lot of you out by supporting this initiative

[Firebringer]

Firebringer please fuck off.

i think this would be super helpful for game health, but if you don't want to participate you don't have to

[Firebringer]

my theory is that someone who has pushed black is def scum and that black is a scum magnet to fake scumreads.

GOT TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE.

Detective growlithe on the case

This feels pocket-y but go on. I think you're onto something

Rathe is

probably

town and I'm not sure how to read Meuh jumping around from wagon to wagon. NM is on my wagon but who the fuck knows what his alignment is. And then there's Klick, who seems comfortable taking a back seat and just sheeping people today

Got to get back to work this will be a project for me later in the week.
In meantime we should narrow down pool of players to vote out.

Also i don't think i would try to pocket u but thats self meta.
Don't really see u as being a useful person to have in the pocket if i was scum. The good pockets are people who will die on the hill calling you town, you don't got that energy.

[Firebringer]

Wait, wasn't the first thing that scum shea do in TM was also heavily FOS and poke and prod on Black before he pocketed her

Sensing a theme.

I am pretty sure I found black as town pretty early this game.

Also I was heavily suspicious of her almost the entirety of the dragons newbie game that just ended.

I think I just tend to naturally be suspicious of her playstyle and made a concerted effort to look past the playstyle this game.

I dont think there was ever a point this game where I was seriously sussing black though so this is a weird post where it seems like you're trying to make a narrative fit a conclusion.

Wasn't susing you in that post. I don't even have an inkling of sus on you, which maybe i should idk.

I was merely stating a pattern of black getting focused by scum in games by scum very early on. Not saying u are scum at all

[Firebringer]

my townread of drew has really fallen flat

[Firebringer]

is there anyone on mafiascum.net who *doesn't* have an inflated ego?? i know i have one

its pretty much a prerequisite to play mafia. those who don't have an inflated ego burn out and stop playing because they can't stand all the ego in games

[Firebringer]

Notes: All alive players gain +1 DEF.

Super tough big boy now

[Firebringer]

sure, if no one claims to have fought titus. Then we can assume its a scum.
Titus if no one claims to have fought you, please out the pokemon because I can figure out which pokemon players have

[Firebringer]

Doctor drew is out of the elite 6, STARgazer takes his place.

Drew still might be town, idk. I don't like his sudden push on me EOD. But maybe scum him wouldn't have done that when scum already were getting a misyeet.

[Firebringer]

i talked myself into drew still being town. nvm, but he is out of the elite group because i think 6 is a better number

[Firebringer]

I don't agree with outing these roles so casually and without consensus. They're shitty vigs but still vigs.

its not outing a role its outing the pokemon.
and im only saying it should be outted because if someone is hiding that they are fighting Titus im assuming thats a scum move 100% of the time.

[Firebringer]

ItalianoVD replaces Rathe

[Firebringer]

ItalianoVD replaces Rathe

being helpful is +scum points.

I already maxed those out

[Firebringer]

I don't agree with outing these roles so casually and without consensus. They're shitty vigs but still vigs.

its not outing a role its outing the pokemon.
and im only saying it should be outted because if someone is hiding that they are fighting Titus im assuming thats a scum move 100% of the time.

Why is that a scum move? How is it different from vigging her without outing?

i don't have a good counter to this argument after thinking about it.

i think whittling down different players health is more pro scum than pro town though.
I guess i could see a town doing it to Titus but im not seeing the benefit of just keeping quiet about it besides scum not knowing about it because everyone can fight in this game and scum would already know the person didn't fight them personally (if Titus isn't scum)

[Firebringer]

All battles are resolved. It's now day 2!

no one else fucking died??

Shea requested 3+ deaths and the game decided to punish him for his request

[Firebringer]

Klick was killed! He was a Meloetta aligned with the town.

i wonder if i should analyze klick death.
he wouldn't have been my first choice here as a kill but im never on the wavelength of scum.

Would have killed squirtle

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Metens
sure

[Firebringer]

METENS WAS A DAY 1 VOTE THAT I WANTED AND IT IS CURRENTLY NOT ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW FOR DAY 2

1) when did u get to decide the table
2) why not

[Firebringer]

Pre Edit: Fire, did you say PB rages as scum as well, or just town.

Both

[Firebringer]

Awww, but you like being called scum.

also to respond to this since i kind of ignored
im just having hard time processing ur scumread on me even though you said i looked scummy for "poisoning the well" on PB/LLD slot. I am not getting where that comes from and feels pretty left field. Don't mind a scumread but the way u progressed to one just seems very odd to me. But i don't think i understand ur process that well

[Firebringer]

Chandra i think ur concern about scum having too much info in this game is misplaced
its an ALISAE GAME

scum won't make heads or tails of it even if we told them everything

[Firebringer]

wait, is ranger an alt?

mastina, the caveat is that ranger is a different personality/style/etc.
I still see it as mastina posting tho

[Firebringer]

Rathe has still been scum the whole time if anyone is ready to actually listen to me for a change.

but if we did that i wouldn't get to see posts like this

[Firebringer]

And while that probably does give you pleasure I know winning mafia games does too.

don't u want to hear from Metens tho

[Firebringer]

LLD i think ur just going through the motions of this game aren't u

[Firebringer]

i don't understand why people don't treat how flavor plays as more of an actor playing a character that they are very committed to and instead take it like its some serious thing. i think flavor calls it a gimmick he is doing. I think of it is play acting a character created for the game.

i do find everyone who gets annoyed at flavor and try to take him down a peg ego wise hilarious though. As if you are going to get anywhere with that.

[Firebringer]

sure, if no one claims to have fought titus. Then we can assume its a scum.
Titus if no one claims to have fought you, please out the pokemon because I can figure out which pokemon players have

Like you can invwstigate at night or immediately?

what if i told u im informed of all the pokemon everyone has

[Firebringer]

drew im trying to follow ur progression on LLD slot please break it down to me.

cause you are she is scum. A few days ago you were she is town because PB rage, which i get u see as NAI now, but how does that now become a 100% scum for u.

[Firebringer]

is no one gonna claim to have fought Titus

[Firebringer]

We are all Wooper

[Firebringer]

im convinced drew is town because scum drew i think would not get on peoples nerves

[Firebringer]

@drew ur not on my nerves though buddy, but thats because im scum

[Firebringer]

I should really be solving this game at some point.
Where all the scum butts seriously at.

I mean i guess i could go back on LLD since the only reaction i felt was sort of townie was our swap thing. Meh

[Firebringer]

im lowkey feeling really good about this game y'all! this is nice!

thats suprising i don't

[Firebringer]

I'm still townreading Squirtle but I think his obsession with the Blue/Rathe/IVD spot is a little weird. It almost feels like he's tunneling on that and using it as an excuse to not solve anyone else

Why is this scummy for squirtle
i think town him far more likely to tunnel.
See TM game where he was all over the map

[Firebringer]

I can't really speak on Squirtle's meta but I didn't really get the vibe that he was all over the place in TM

How do u not remember day 1.
It was literally shea hoping from sussing one person to the next trying to find an elim
Me and Alisae both started suspecting him because of the hoping looked like he was trying to find a suitable target to elim

[Firebringer]

HE FOS YOU AND THEN POCKETED U DAY 1

[Firebringer]

the only thing kind of misrepresenting with black assessment of shea imo is that he doesn't have other reads. Him being hyper focused on a select few players is pretty normal for him.
In fact i would say its pretty normal for most players.

[Firebringer]

Well i townread u regardless so its w/e

[Firebringer]

FB what are your 3 strongest reads and why?

the Elite 6
hasn't changed that much from day 1.
I am more struggling for scumreads here than townreads

[Firebringer]

I bet you all missed me so much

i def did

[Firebringer]

FB sometimes has a similar style but luckily he dumbtelled on like page 10 and I can completely ignore him until I start to get super paranoid about him on like day 5 if we're both still around.

ur reasoning for initiatlly townreading me is weak and flimsy. I can convince u that ur initial read is wrong way before day 5.

[Firebringer]

Something feels off about Shea. He comes across as really tactical despite how checked out and frustrated he's depcited himself as.

I dunno, it's not a strong read, but there's a dissonance that doesn't line up for me.

I'm sure this will prompt Shea to try and kill me faster which is also fine I couldn't care less but...

Shea probably needs to be investigated, shot at, killed in pokemon battle, something.

this is the most townie thing u posted and yet i still disagree with everything u said here

[Firebringer]

Growlithe who do I vote?

my vote is on mala
i guess u can sheep me but im like lost in the forest over here

[Firebringer]

maybe i should stop commenting on people i townread unless i find someone doing something scummy to talk about

[Firebringer]

i don't get how cakez sees this game is easy. i am struggling for scum pings

[Firebringer]

anyone who likes the taste of mint

[Firebringer]

Mint has a ton of flavor. People that like well-done steak confuse me tho

u trying to tell me u don't like the taste of card board

[Firebringer]

Mint has a ton of flavor. People that like well-done steak confuse me tho

u trying to tell me u don't like the taste of card board

That's a scum slip, well done steak tastes like charcoal.

You just slipped as Giratina
Giratina bio says likes steak because it tastes like charcoal

[Firebringer]

Okay

I feel this game is really stagnating

Flavor leaf, throw me a name to do a deep dive on.
I will do it.

[Firebringer]

Only one of what

[Firebringer]

ive given up tone reading
now i read by breathing like a demon slayer

i can sense the scum by breathe

[Firebringer]

Okay

I feel this game is really stagnating

Flavor leaf, throw me a name to do a deep dive on.
I will do it.

Uhhhh….Chandra

can u pick someone outside the elite 6
otherwise ur just gonna hear my biasely telling u why u should townread Chandra.
Even a weaker townread is better

[Firebringer]

You could unstagnate it by helping me.

help u do what

[Firebringer]

I am also not a fan of black new avi.
Is there a petition somewhere on petition.org to change it

[Firebringer]

okay so i must now begin my long deep dive into titus.
For clarification my presumptions going in to show my bias.

I do feel Titus is being typical townself. (not helpful who do i not townread at this point besides like LLD slot)

The things i thought were pointing to her town:
> She claims attacked last night
> her attitude seems like normal titus, i think she would be playing more pressing a certain gamestate if scum.

Anyways now to begin my journey through the forest

[Firebringer]

like you're trying to coast and avoid conflict

Have we not met before

[Firebringer]

im writing up my long iso of Titus and i find this going to be more entertaining to write than actually illuminating to her alignment. But its good motivation to continue going through it because if i didn't at least make it an entertaining writing wise man this would feel like a big chore

[Firebringer]

Black’s turn on FB bringing back LLD/Black team vibes tbh

I don't think Black actually thinks im scum. I think she is just trying to start a fight (horribly) in order to actually see me do a follow through on a promise to deliver content.

Which i find funny because i am writing up my long dive regardless

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: The Long Forest that is an ISO Deep Dive

I should make this an interesting journey, perhaps i will narrate it as though I am not just giving my off the cuff thoughts at reading an iso with random thoughts together. Perhaps it will go something like this.....


Long ago in a pokemon universe far far away, there lived a Pokemon Named Titus.

She was an interesting little cat like pokemon who wore a fedora, and she tried her best to traverse the world of pokemon in search for purpose. What purpose could that be?

Lets find out:

In her first journey out she declared to fellow pokemon Skygazer that she could not be analyzed by normal means 11 could this be a bluff to deter any potential trainers from researching her. This narrator believes very likely true nonethless.

The small Titus had an early fixation that Titus found with Ditto (Pinkball) 98, the feeling given of is that the relationship between the two was not of a deep past (scum aligned together- you will see a lot of Pink slot /Titus in later).

As the ferral Titus examined the plains she came across those she wanted to trust but didn't know if she could given past experience. Was this true concern? [plus 1 town point for 721

As she got more comfortable in her new area she began to become more vocal of opinions. 722 [Don't like this post because I don't see where its coming from. But not willing to throw scum points that way. The vote later on Blue for just finding something insulting is also just not helpful either way other than probably not aligned.]

Titus continued to be consistent with a dislike of patchwork. 1313 and [post]

Titus will continue to show just like or echoing posts. 1324 1317 and 1316 also 1351 [Arbitrarily giving scum points to this as i find it could be just buddying. Even though I don't see how she is using to buddy it, just going with the conversation of town i can see being a scum move even if its not a buddy]

Titus doesn't trust Blue at all, for what reasons it is hard to find out, maybe the antagonistic attitude turned her off earlier, maybe the misrepresentations of other players, but it didn't seem to be a read brought about that can be easily understood and perhaps is just a dislike of the style of player? Who can say. [I could quote posts but she switched to a 'serious vote' on Blue 1356 and not seeing how that is serious. I can see she is trying to get in Squirtle buddying by proxy here and continues hard townreading squirtle. There is something interesting i think about when i consider this and will analyze again later, i think titus out of everyone should be wary of squirtle the most. I am giving 10 scum points to her for not being more skeptical of squirtle.

2550 Definitely don't think a Pink slot scum flip means Titus scum at all.

2611 This is the most Titus style analyzation ive seen in a while. The interesting thing is these are all players that have gotten heat at one point or another, except maybe sky, so its kind of like popular consensus players. Kind of want to think its scummy even though i think its more likely town mindset?

I will write up a part two tomorrow. Leaning scum on Titus right now but can't be scum with Pink/LLD slot

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Black’s turn on FB bringing back LLD/Black team vibes tbh

I don't think Black actually thinks im scum. I think she is just trying to start a fight (horribly) in order to actually see me do a follow through on a promise to deliver content.

Which i find funny because i am writing up my long dive regardless

I always think you're scum, even when you're town

I truly think townreading 20 people is either a bold face lie or you're just scum pulling a maneuver

my goal is to pocket all the players in the game and the easiest way to do it is pretend there is no scum in the game.

Not doing a good job if u don't townread me. So if u can fix that so i can accomplish my mission in this game, would appreciate it.

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That was a joke. I don't care if u townread me

[Firebringer]

ill still deliver that Titus pt2 later

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i am pretty confident that if one of Titus/LLD is scum the other isn't. U agree with that flavor?

[Firebringer]

Wow now i have to fight Doctor Drew in a battle for the highlander

[Firebringer]

Okay lets do this.

Lets actually make a ~reads list~

Town-
Elite 6 - Flavor Leaf, Chandra, Doctor drew, Squirttle, Norwee, Skygazer (technically 7 now)
Meuh, Black
Cakez, WhemeStar
Sheeps
ItalianoVD, Enchant, Ranger

Nullish I don't really know - StD, MalaKittens, Not Mafia,
Scum - (Titus/LLD) - only one of them

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I feel that expreses where i am at with everyone fairly acurately.

I was probably at Titus in that Cakez,WHemestar tier prior to start digging into her iso.

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Ohh, you let me back in now?

yeah my doubts are gone.
I was just lowering u down to Whemestar tier and now im fine keeping u in the "i don't need to think about u tier"

[Firebringer]

I am not a snake im a friendly doggo

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Uselessness isn’t AI for Fire sadly

I am very useful. Norwee being a rudewee

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Titus
Until i finish my ISO Dive.

[Firebringer]

I should do a 180 on my norwee read just to spice this game up with some Fire vs Norwee action

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Woops i meant that for the scum pt.
Sorry about that guys

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How did black come up with one of us being scum

Tbf we are pretty obvious over here

[Firebringer]

Woops did it again

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I would never pocket a person im in a highlander death match with

[Firebringer]

I should do a 180 on my norwee read just to spice this game up with some Fire vs Norwee action

Ok, how you wanna do this?

Meet me behind the bleachers after class

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VOTE: ItalianoVD

No matter how many times I look, I can't see what's suspicious of LLD. I think the suss of me must be an attempt to drive focus away from Italiano since if he flips scum I am not a viable miselimination anymore.

hey Titus im the one sussing you a bit. Want to chat?

[Firebringer]

Lazy Shirou replaces Skygazer

Hot and spicy

[Firebringer]

Shirou this is a legit troll game
So no try Harding is allowed

[Firebringer]

I thought it was town kp lol but I have not been reading

I thought it was scum kill but town kill also makes sense I guess

Why kill ranger as scum. Who does that shit

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Shirou this is a legit troll game
So no try Harding is allowed

I joined the game with the SOLE condition that I wouldn't do shit LOL

Ali kept me begging with puppy doggy eyes to join this even though I didn't want to

well congrats i townread skygazer massively so im already in ur pocket. Or really skygazer but now u
welcome to the Elite 6

If this is a troll game do I get the right to kill Flavor Leaf because it sounds funny?

Especially if he flips scum on me for the fourth time on a row?

id prefer not to he is in my Elite 6 group

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in fact I want 3 people to give me TL;DRs if possible

it avoids being mislead by bias, alignment-related or not

Firebringer tunnel Pink Ball.

Pink Ball mad cuz Firebringer does nothing. Replaces out.

LLD replaces in, powertunnels Magical Girl. Flips town.

Onto day 2, game gets real slow and boring. Eventually stagnates on LLD. LLD flips town.

this is actually a decent summary of the whole game thus far fmpov

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Chandra is universally townread but isn't using his big town energy to actually push anything.

[Firebringer]

im a good scum boy

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in my most recent games, in every T vs T there's always one scum fuck sitting pretty trying to be the "voice of reason" or something

i feel like this is useful for finding out who is being 'awkward' during a TvT but i often find myself being the voice of reason in TvT as town. So like....not that great all the time?

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Chandra is universally townread but isn't using his big town energy to actually push anything.

is this true? I think chandra was decently forceful on day 1 and no one was listening to them.

I basically missed all of day 2 due to the meet.

Who did Chandra heavy push? I asked Chandra to lead at least once or twice during day 1.

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fb dumbtelled on like page 10 and is therefore town.

he is extremely mad that I won't let go of this read.

me being dumb isn't a tell.
Its a personality trait.

When will you learn baka

[Firebringer]

tell u what shea. I can give you blue slot head for you accepting ur "fb is town because of dumbtell" is really not a way to read me and u should toss it out.

[Firebringer]

shirou i can save u from efforting a bit here the elite 6 (All super town never elim) are:

Flavor Leaf, Drew (dead), Squirttle, Norwee (just got replaced with Yimmy), You (skygazer), and Chandra

With all these people we can just elim everyone else and go eat ice cream or something idk.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: KittyTacky

[Firebringer]

Feels like a deep wolf kinda game

are u thinking deep wolf is bussing and failing or somehow got deep wolf with no bussing or something.
cause i don't see a deep wolf but i don't see scum much either. I just have a PoE pile

[Firebringer]

Norwee replaced out...?

.-.

Ali didn't tell me this critical information...

Norwee is rl sick. Go wish him the best on discord and tell him he is a nerd

[Firebringer]

I think meuh is solving, I think black is wrong about that. I think meuh-black is tvt.

u know whats weird about black to me.

I townread her, but like everytime i see her trying to push something its like seeing someone trying to get something going but doesn't believe in it herself and just trying to find a way to dig into in the game.

Like i would normally see it as scummy cause it looks like not real hunting but i think she is trying and just doesn't know what she is doing

[Firebringer]

how dare u not accept my townreads as just pure facts Shirou
when was the last time i got pocketed by scum.

NAME ThE LAST TIME

[Firebringer]

i guess the above assumes im town.
But when is the last time scum me would heavy push an ally to be townread either!!!!

[Firebringer]

I don't think the elite 6 should be touched for a while, FB's townreads are always correct

this is the kind of buddying i can get behind.
+2 points for Meuh

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I don't think the elite 6 should be touched for a while,

FB's townreads are always correct

from what games did you reach that conclusion?

closest thing to scumposting rn

I have an AMAZING TRACK RECORD SHIROU!!!!!!!

[Firebringer]

The disrespect i get in this game.
I am glad i don't take this game seriously

[Firebringer]

thats a baiting post isn't it

[Firebringer]

how do i get the bad route ending.

what do i do to get - 100 affection

[Firebringer]

i could never do that. can't i just make fun of ur solving attempts instead

[Firebringer]

im going to be breaking a lot of international law this game.

[Firebringer]

is titus talking about the elite 6?
i feel like its not a camp since we are hardly working together

[Firebringer]

VOTE: StD

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I townread her, but like everytime i see her trying to push something its like seeing someone trying to get something going but doesn't believe in it herself and just trying to find a way to dig into in the game.

Yep that sounds about right. This game has been pretty overwhelming for me

u should take my approach and not try to force anything.

This game is chill.

[Firebringer]

Shirou i just told u not to tryhard.
Have u learned nothing from me apprentice?

[Firebringer]

Lady Lambdadelta,

Enchant, Firebringer, NorwegianboyEE, Skygazer, Metens, KittyTacky,

Doctor Drew,

SirCakez, Meuh, Sheepsaysmeep, Black

WhemeStar, Flavor Leaf,

Ranger, Doctor Drew,

KittyTacky, NorwegianboyEE, Malakittens, SirCakez, ItalianoVD, Enchant, Not_Mafia

For the record the list of voting both is
Kitty
Mala
SirCakez
Enchant

i feel like i should be included in both since i scumread LLD all day yesterday and the only reason i didn't vote her was because i just wasn't around when it got to the end of it. Would def have voted her

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Alright im going to actually push something.
And by push something I mean echo someone else in the elite 6 cause i think its a decent block of players to vote and so i am going to scream and echo it.

These are the people we focus today. No one else, lets narrow down the field and focus on these cause i think its a good PoE probably has at least 3 scum in it. If your not voting in one of these. Then ur wasting ur vote and need to get on my level scrubs.

there is likely 4 scum in {titus std italiano kitty not_mafia malakittens}

[Firebringer]

You have to be misunderstanding my theory.

My theory all along is that LLD was town and scum essentially stabbed her in the back off a single miselimination because she's a good player and to discourage town from stepping up and creating a stagnant gamestate.

Titus I love the theory talk, but if your not putting names to who you think is the cause of this conspiracy theory. I can't dig into it at all cause its all just conjecture rubbish

For instance, many people scumread LLD day 1 including myself (mostly pinkball slot), so when LLD hops in and helps lead the charge on a townie, why isn't it reasonable for townies to think she is scum who just get free mislims? Who is the scum who is letting her die on the sword.

If ur going to throw out theories like this, give me a name to dig into.

[Firebringer]

If you read the above you accept the indisputable contract that Mr.Shirou won't lose sleep trying to solve this game if your consensus reads are wrong and therefore can be lazy just like his name implies

it was a pleasure doing business with you~

VOTE: STD

Signed,

Firebringer dated 6/22/2023

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yeah hunting for a deep wolf when we haven't even elimmed one scum is....just asking for trouble.
or quick lose.

Which could be funny for an alisae game but not that into it.

I mean you only start panicking about deep wolves in game when ur like Day 5.

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What if we tried listening to Cassandra Nalaar today.

id listen to you if you took up some leadership buddy.
You have been pretty reluctant to take the talking stick and lead

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What if we tried listening to Cassandra Nalaar today.

id listen to you if you took up some leadership buddy.
You have been pretty reluctant to take the talking stick and lead

I've been busy.

you can't expect me to follow you, if your not around buddy

p-edit no math he is trolling

[Firebringer]

there is no cop check.
Shirou is fucking around

[Firebringer]

Too bad there is so little content in this game that all you have to go on is feelings.

i wonder if its the avatar that makes me read ur posts as more hostile or the avatar is making you more hostile.
But either way. You okay?

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chandra was at survivor meet with me and a bunch of other people here. I can confirm that there was really no time to do anything but play survivor and then pass out really.

i wasn't doubting he wasn't around, i know he and std were there.
I am simply stating when he asked for everyone to sheep him for once. Its kind of hard for us to sheep him when he isn't here.

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Titus i still haven't found who attacked you either.

[Firebringer]

Kitty is town

Thats what he keeps telling us.

[Firebringer]

Mala case:
Promises content and doesn't deliver
Has somehow found their way onto both mislims despite being inactive (and the MG wagon is especially sus to me, that was obviously a bad vote imo)

That's it. That's the whole case

pretty compelling actually

VOTE: malakittens
Lets help the deep wolf buss

(thats a joke)

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Chandra i feel like u should be susing StD here.

For one StD has no paranoia on you at all.
Two he has no paranoia on you at all.
Yet your kind of just like meh to it all

[Firebringer]

I am convinced by people hard defending Mala.

Who is hard defending mala?
Black?

[Firebringer]

I feel like scum are town reading me, but killing off the people town reading me

he's onto me

[Firebringer]

quick! hide FB!