Election! | GAME OVER

[meowth]

declare: council member

hi everyone!

now i have the cutest avatar

[meowth]

I don't think a cop shot is that valuable, I think securing a town treasurer and probably mayor/council member is more important than town sheriff. Datisi I'm also curious to hear why that was your choice especially given HoD

the joats could be anything! they could even have a cop shot!

actually though, what could be in there that is more valuable? there's not much

[meowth]

scum treasurer is obviously bad? that's clearly the most powerful role, it interacts with all the others

[meowth]

i agree obviously, but we shouldn't discount sheriff, it commands a lot of attention

[meowth]

i think controlling funding plus night kill is extremely powerful even if there's not some extra power that comes along with it for scum, which there could be

[meowth]

lol

[meowth]

declare: council member

hi everyone!

now i have the cutest avatar

declare: council member

[meowth]

i find this whole conversation to be kind of boring tbh

I need more from GL first

how about cakez says more about this

[meowth]

the 2 JOATs imo are the most important roles because they determine whether the mafia can take a shot at the sheriff

can you clarify this?

[meowth]

ok that's what i thought you were saying. that makes sense to me, except that i expect scum to have other ways of dealing with the cop. imo the main power of the joat is that it is unknown and so scum cant act with perfect info. which is pretty much the same train of thought

[meowth]

I personally want cakez to get his trash collector despite being of the mind that my candidacy there would be the most useful place for me

why and why

[meowth]

Declare: Council Member

we dont have to fight

[meowth]

we are all waiting with bated breath

[meowth]

it hasn't been confirmed that's not how shea picked roles

[meowth]

we are all waiting with bated breath

why don't you do a read

i have a couple but don't see the point in sharing in this phase

[meowth]

Pooky, is this the reason for your townread on meowth? Explain?

yea and also has to do with metaing the main

i'd explain more but i dont out alts

if you actually know it's me ill be impressed but not at all surprised

[meowth]

CAKEZ YOU DO KNOW YOU HAVE LITERALLY NOT POSTED A SINGLE THOUGHT ABOUT ANOTHER PERSONS ALIGNMENT TO THIS THREAD YET RIGHT

YES AND I DO NOT FEEL THE NEED TO YET I WILL WHEN I HAVE A FEELING ON SOMETHING THAT I CAN EXPLAIN

this is only ok when i do it

[meowth]

ok i was planning on catching up but nothing actually happened

except i feel better about cake, i always let emotional stuff impact my reads

[meowth]

i am rapidly losing interest in this phase when i cannot kill anyone yet

this is exactly why we should be more guarded with real reads this phase, imo

even if you catch scum you can't do anything about it yet. so you let know scum you are on to them when there is no threat behind it and allow them to vote accordingly

we should be doing basic mech right now or at least hiding actual strong reads

[meowth]

one thing im curious about is whether joats should claim what they used or even if there should be some system for using them. like assume strongest shot first or alphabetical order or something. i definitely think we should keep the remaining roles hidden but it might not be good to claim a doc shot was used. but we also want to coordinate somehow? maybe it's best to just leave it to chance.

[meowth]

I mean mechanically we want town on all of the roles

I think talking about reads is helpful for this purpose

my thesis is we suck at finding town too much within 48 hours of game start for it to outweigh the info it gives scum

[meowth]

ok sorry whatever I'll just afk until the deadline

anyone is free to do whatever, im just explaining my behavior

[meowth]

I don’t think hiding joat/sheriff identities is likely to work or even be worth our time, but that doesn’t even matter.

i agree, and don't exactly follow how thats relevant to my post

[meowth]

i agree, and don't exactly follow how thats relevant to my post

oh i think i see what you are saying
i was referring to the joat abilities left over as what should be hidden, not who is what

[meowth]

What I’m saying is that we should have no issues communicating what the joats can actually achieve to the thread at large and then make the decision of what power gets used or if that decision is made based on how much they cost and what they are. It’s a decision that we’ll have more information on during the elim phase, so we should worry about it in the elim phase.

you dont agree revealing all the joat abilities d1 is bad? but point taken about it making sense to come back to

[meowth]

he's the only candidate for tracker and everyone seems okay with that

im not, i disagree with pooky about controlling candidates at least for this phase. i think forcing people to make a choice is probably good.
but i think its a little early to force people to commit, we can do that closer to deadline

[meowth]

But I also feel like I'm in over my head in such a mech heavy game.

thinking about mech too much is a trap in a shea game anyway

[meowth]

hes not townie but hes less not townie than before

[meowth]

oh my god so pooky doesn't even know your main? he's just speculating? bruuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh

my first post on this account was signing up for this game. i am an alt but it's not possible anyone knows my id for sure and i won't be sharing it or referencing any of my own meta.

[meowth]

I just see 'it's kinda smart not to give reads' as an excuse not to give reads

I'll be giving reads d1

[meowth]

the phase is about to end and we don't have declarations from:
- furtiveglance
- bingle
- nono

i think it would be good if one of you ran against cakez

[meowth]

Do you just want an additional set of votes to analyze

this one

[meowth]

i think we should have consensus on who should win each role - if our votes are divided it makes it too easy for scum to just do hidden shenanigans

this is interesting, i do think we should discuss votes openly eventually. not sold on if it makes a difference at this point versus after the election. i am worried about scum being able to potentially use the info right now, though im not sure if thats a reasonable fear given them flipping the vote to someone else is super obvious

[meowth]

pooky are you interested in revealing who you are voting for?

[meowth]

if we are considering this, i do think the most important role to do it for is treasurer

[meowth]

DECLARE TREASURER

ENDORSEMENTS

Treasurer: Herta
Sheriff: Enchant
Mayor: Pooky
Council: actiondan
Trash Collector: SirCakez
Board of Election; blookb0t

Subject to change

herta, what made you interested in treasurer and why are you endorsing the people you are endorsing?
short answer is ok

[meowth]

Unowen is my top pick

hate this

[meowth]

that's not why i hate it, unowen has the worst iso in the whole game

[meowth]

i alrdy explained the read

yeah and you know its weak as hell, seriously read the iso

[meowth]

boo

[meowth]

im fine with lld, i trust her more with the mech decisions anyway
theres nothing particularly interesting from herta that would sway me that way

[meowth]

pooky you realize you said the same thing right

[meowth]

I moderated house of the dragon so i know the context

ausuka never played in that game

it was 1 minute after your post, i dont think that much thought went into it lol

[meowth]

seems like a reach

[meowth]

i already gave one, which you rejected, also because of a reach

[meowth]

it's a read which i haven't actively tried to push, but its a real read

[meowth]

having a read doesnt require vocalizing it in the thread, but since you asked nicely...
222 is fake. bingle attempted to engage on the point right after and there was no followup. then 424 is noncommittal bs. plus i find the whole "make me commitee member but im not serious about it" act to be super awkward.

[meowth]

Approach to LLD and pooky conversations. Coming in wanting LLD to be JOAT which is high skill high risk of being shot doesn't make a ton of sense if AD is scum WITH LLD. It pairs them too tightly from the word go. Backing down immediately to let LLD go after the Treasurer which arguably should be going to the most reliable town player but also doesn't provide any scum incentive to shoot them without trying to push the issue means AD probably isn't scum with LLD town, as he'd want LLD to pick up a power that was better worth shooting at.

Similarly, the townread of Pooky for the obvious and untenable mechstrat is useless noise, but useless noise that doesn't really serve any purpose. It doesn't look particularly towny on the face of it, but does seem like the kind of thing that would be a surface level reaction, and sharing it unabashedly makes me think AD isn't too worried about how he's seen.

look at this response which was ignored

[meowth]

the implication of the question is one of disagreement, no? so i'd expect some back and forth about it. that was in response to a list of reads and only that one was called out in particular

[meowth]

@pooky and bingle what about the other stuff i pointed out

[meowth]

catching up now, then i'll post my votes

I don't particularly scumread short, fluffy isos until short fluffy isos are the exception, rather than the norm. Don't really think uno's done much to have a strong read either way.

the way i see it is there's a couple sketchy things and nothing towny, good enough for a d1 scum read

[meowth]

having a read doesnt require vocalizing it in the thread, but since you asked nicely...
222 is fake. bingle attempted to engage on the point right after and there was no followup. then 424 is noncommittal bs. plus i find the whole "make me commitee member but im not serious about it" act to be super awkward.

excuse me, what is not serious about making me a council member?

i feel like you are subtly trying to influence people to vote for you with stuff like 398 and 423 while trying to make it seem like you dont really care if you get picked or not

[meowth]

My own opinion on UNOwen rides between Bingle's and Meowth's in that logically there isn't anything in the "fluffy short iso" I can pin down as scummy (I don't think either of 222 or 424 are egregiously scummy) but the fact that those are the only two posts that would qualify as content in 20 pages is.

exactly this

[meowth]

the theory is that all three of the sheriff candidates are scum and they're trying to monopolize the sheriff powa

doesnt that make it tricky when sheriff doesnt get shot? id rather go after treasurer if you are that worried about sheriff

[meowth]

here's what i've got, you all have the next 5 minutes to argue with me about it then im gunna submit

treasurer: lld
sheriff: enchant
mayor: pooky
council member: meowth
trash collector: furtiveglance
board of election: bloodb0t

[meowth]

skimming through, more from me later

I’m mobile right now, but I’ll throw together a reads list later today. If someone is up to busy work I’d appreciate a pseudo vote count.

if no one has done this by tonight i plan on it

[meowth]

VOTE: unowen

more reads later when im on a computer

[meowth]

please glance at this for your votes and point out mistakes, i skimmed

Spoiler: d1 election votes

d1 election winners:

lld - treasurer
enchant - sheriff
pooky - mayor
actiondan - council member
furtiveglance - trash collector
bloodbot - board of elections

treasurer:
herta(5) - enchant, furtiveglance, guiltylion, nono, unowen
lld(8) - actiondan, bingle, bloodb0t, datisi, meowth, pooky, sircakez, sleepykrew

sheriff:
datisi(2) - actiondan, guiltylion
ausuka(1) - sircakez
enchant(9) - bingle, bloodb0t, furtiveglance, herta, meowth, nono, pooky, sleepykrew, unowen

mayor:
pooky(6) - actiondan, datisi, herta, lld, meowth, unowen
guiltylion(2) - bingle, nono
sleepykrew(4) - bloodb0t, enchant, furtiveglance, sircakez

council member:
meowth(4) - bingle, bloodb0t, enchant, sircakez
unowen(2) - pooky, sleepykrew
actiondan(6) - datisi, furtiveglance, guiltylion, herta, lld, nono

trash collector:
sircakez(6) - actiondan, bingle, datisi, guiltylion, herta, nono
furtiveglance(6) - bloodb0t, enchant, meowth, pooky, sleepykrew, unowen

board of election:
bloodb0t(13) - actiondan, bingle, datisi, enchant, furtiveglance, guiltylion, herta, meowth, nono, pooky, sircakez, sleepykrew, unowen

unknown: ausuka, lld (for some)

going to be looking at this more closely now.

seems like everyone who was supposed to win did with the minor exception of furtiveglance which was a close race we dont have full info on. all in all though it doesnt seem like there are any surprises.

enchant sticks out as interesting to me, did everyone just decide to go with someone null-scummy independently or was that idea posted in thread somewhere? or are people townreading enchant?

[meowth]

I think the only thing I'd like to ask Meowth... is why the Enchant vote?

just seeing this now

datisi is good at town, not good for us if killed n1 in a 2 for 1
ausuka and enchant i could have gone either way, but enchant's iso was devoid of content so i would be happy with a shot going there
ausuka is at least posting thoughts

[meowth]

not caught up

herta can you give reads on datisi, ausuka, and enchant?

[meowth]

same question to sleepykrew

[meowth]

same question to unowen

[meowth]

Spoiler: notes on sheriff vote

actiondan (datisi):
consistently finding enchant scummy
townreads datisi
scum reads ausuka

ausuka:
town reads enchant
read on datisi is unclear to me

bingle (enchant):
seems to be doing the same thing as me re enchant, but also isn't happy about it? to answer my own question from above, bingle was pretty obvious about this in thread before voting closed
unclear about datisi
unclear about ausuka
does suggest all 3 could be scum

bloodb0t (enchant):
disagrees with a town read on enchant
at least leans town on ausuka and datisi
later switches to a scum read on ausuka and votes there

datisi:
null on ausuka, then leans town
scum reads enchant, then lightens slightly

enchant:
likes ausuka and ausuka reads:
"furtive enchant and bingle are the only people I really townread on any level"
voted for datisi

furtiveglance (enchant):
strong town on enchant
seems null on ausuka, then town read
null on datisi, then doesn't want sleepkrew to vote for him

guiltylion (datisi):
null on enchant, confused by the votes
pinged by ausuka, then commits to a scum read
seems fairly null on datisi

herta (enchant):
read on ausuka is unclear, seemed to improve from lean scum to at least null
nothing on datisi
nothing on enchant

lld (unknown):
unclear on all, though maybe willing to kill ausuka and datisi its hard to tell if its serious

nono (enchant):
pass

pooky (enchant):
thinks ausuka and datisi are scummy
read on enchant isn't super clear but not as scummy as the others

cakez (ausuka):
seems to lean towards town for ausuka
seems to lean scum / null on datisi
nothing on enchant

sleepykrew (enchant):
nothing on ausuka
nothing on enchant
nothing on datisi

unowen (enchant):
nothing on ausuka
nothing on enchant
nothing on datisi

[meowth]

My votes were all in the moment and gut based, the enchant vote was mostly a furtive sheep I guess, and I didn't consciously take into account what you had said about them.

can you say more about this? what is your read on furtive at the moment and why?

[meowth]

It's an early read. I think you're overreacting.

you seem to be pretty confident about it thought right? is it still your strongest tr?

[meowth]

same question to unowen

same question to meowth

questionception

i like that datisi is pushing unowen, lean town. i thought it was weird datisi lost sheriff in a landslide, thinking that maybe what happened is enough townies are scum reading him that it didnt make sense to push him for sheriff. or maybe scum is just worried about protective being used n1

i dont have a strong read on ausuka, but i do think there was some weird pushing against her that i didnt understand, which makes me lean town overall. i did find the enchant townread weird. there are a lot of differing opinions about ausuka though so ask me again after the first flip.

enchant is impossible to read from whats posted without meta, imo. i was thinking there is the possibility of enchant being scum trying to wk ausuka but im not putting any weight in that. i find the townreads on enchant to be very confusing. im interested in unowen and enchant wagons competing, but that cant happen today which is a bit of a bummer

[meowth]

i did find the enchant townread weird.

my impression is that enchant is a polarised player and this leans to his town meta

can anyone be more specific than this? can you give an example post from this game that wouldn't come from enchant scum?

im not trying to be difficult, im open to the read, i just genuinely don't understand having not played with enchant before as far as i can remember

[meowth]

i have a gut feeling we shouldn't be talking about this right now

fair

[meowth]

I'm doing a vote tally, as far as I can tell, ausuka and LLD have not posted their votes.

I'm gonna do Herta, Enchant, SleepyKrew, ActionDan?, Bloodb0t

Did you vote for actiondan?

i already did one fyi

[meowth]

I know but I thought more than 1 person should be doing it, and did you find the votes od ausuka and lld?

only 2 from lld

[meowth]

VOTE: Nono

i feel like this is a waste of time

[meowth]

There was very little pushback to making enchant cop, despite that enchant isn't really a consensus for anything readwise, which lowkey makes me think enchant scum might be a thing here or that the pool might be triple town.

this is exactly in line with my thinking
making enchant cop makes a lot of sense if you think of it as a vig shot like you said
what i dont understand is the people justifying it with town reads on enchant

[meowth]

@meowth, do you townread Nono? If you do, I'd like you to explain, and if you don't, how on earth could you possibly think that wagoning them is a "waste of time"?

at the time you had suggested that the wagon might get nono to provide content, my feeling is players with that particular playstyle dont usually react to wagons by suddenly becoming easier to read. if you actually wanted to lim nono id prefer to do it towards the end of the day as i dont think it would be a particularly informative elimination if nono is town (this is colored by my read on nono which was basically pure null). so in multiple interpretations i believed it to be a waste of time. i did see there was a replacement request so moot point now

[meowth]

@PR people: ETA on publishing of relative prices/abilities of JOATS?

why is this good?

[meowth]

I see UNOwen's point too though around meowth's reasoning for not liking UNOwen being flimsy

unowen has continued to do literally nothing since i made that post other than call me scummy for sring them

[meowth]

I’m very doubtful that meowth thinks that everyone else has solid opinions on the whole player list one way or the other yet (and def not at that stage).

you should have at least some read on one of the most active players that far into the game

[meowth]

We already know why meowth thinks it’s scummy, he said that in his post. “Non-committal”. Not a good reason.

you cant just claim something is not a good reason with no explanation
it is a good reason, because it was the second example of you dismissing conversation rather than engaging

[meowth]

herta and meowth both seem likely to be scum, but i don't have a solid reason for it. just kind of a vibe that puts them below null.

lol

[meowth]

This post pings me, like what's wrong with this vote? I don't mind it

explained above

[meowth]

how can I be dismissing an interaction that I started?

this is purposefully misrepresentative

[meowth]

my feeling is players with that particular playstyle dont usually react to wagons by suddenly becoming easier to read.

What do you mean by "that particular playstyle", and if pressuring or wagoning them does not make them easier to read, what do you believe

does

make them easier to read?

if you actually wanted to lim nono id prefer to do it towards the end of the day as i dont think it would be a particularly informative elimination if nono is town (this is colored by my read on nono which was basically pure null).

snip

nothing makes them easier to read, that's why i prefer vca

i dont even necessarily think that nono would be an informative elim if nono is scum, i just think limming scum is good. it doesnt need to be informative

its less informative because if nono is town they are such limbait that its going to be really hard to tell apart scum who want an easy lim from town who just think nono is a fine place to land. i fundamentally disagree that it is more difficult to fake a read on a limbaity player, that is a really surprising take.

besides, i think you are missing my point a bit. wagons elsewhere before limming nono is what i was looking for if we did indeed end up limming nono (slot, now). i would rather focus on sorting players who are easy to sort rather than trying to sort the hardest to sort players. a strong town block of even 3 players can definitely win a game themselves.

and once again, moot point since the fen has been actively scummy since replacing in

[meowth]

meowth do you have scumreads outside unowen?

furtiveglance - mixed signals at the moment, not null, just some things i like but a couple holding me back from a full town read

pookythemagicalbear - so far there is nothing that absolutely couldnt be scum pooky, but he will sort himself eventually. just going to assume town until i have evidence to the contrary

datisi - feeling town for reasons already described

bingle - leaning town as i think most of the reads he gave are reasonable

sleepykrew - i dont remember anything sleepy has done

actiondan - town read from our limited interaction

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

ausuka - ill be interested in going back and looking at all the interactions with ausuka after we have some flips, but there are a couple things that make me think she is more likely to be town than not

save the dragons - scummy entrance into the thread, thinking scum with unowen is very possible

guiltylion - likely town imo, i do feel like gl is actually trying to sort me as opposed to how unowen is going about interacting with me

lld - has done nothing of note, which i think is nai as either alignment. same approach as with pooky, town for now

herta - waiting for catchup, no real thoughts at the moment. easiest way to sort herta at the moment is for someone to tell me if scum herta declares treasurer or not.

unowen - scummy for reasons discussed, plus providing basically no content since then except attacking me to try to slow their own wagon.

sircakez - theres nothing i have seen from cakez i particularly dislike, going to give him space to get going.

bloodb0t - i didnt like 981, like really really didnt like, but dont feel like pushing a pr is likely to go anywhere and id rather focus on unowen at the moment

[meowth]

this is literally a scum claim. "done nothing of note" Lie. "NAI as either alignment, like Pooky. ... TOWN FOR NOW?"

you have been saying yourself all game that you have low wim? i am used to you leading wagons. what exactly do you disagree with here?

[meowth]

I want to see Meowth response because that reads list is self contradictory and feels very faked.

where am i contradicting anything

[meowth]

i like recent cakez posts tbh i don't think scum goes and tries to start a binglewagon

meowth what was scummy about my entrance?

catching up for however many pages and then ending with saying im scummy because vibes with no detail
looks very much like you are protecting unowen

[meowth]

@furtive below is my 30 second analysis of meowth's readlist, please let me know if i'm out of line for thinking these thoughts or if you still think this is a valid readslist

furtiveglance - mixed signals at the moment, not null, just some things i like but a couple holding me back from a full town read

wtf does this even mean

lean town, except there are a couple things i am questioning

pookythemagicalbear - so far there is nothing that absolutely couldnt be scum pooky, but he will sort himself eventually. just going to assume town until i have evidence to the contrary

wtf does this even mean

pooky is a good town player so i am just going to burden of proficiency him later

datisi - feeling town for reasons already described

bingle - leaning town as i think most of the reads he gave are reasonablep

okay fine

sleepykrew - i dont remember anything sleepy has done

no read here?

nope, sleepy has been absent

actiondan - town read from our limited interaction

doesn't explain why

im referring to a specific back and forth we had when i say limited interaction, though admittedly that wasnt clear

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

wtf does this even mean

enchant is a cop, are you even reading the game?

ausuka - ill be interested in going back and looking at all the interactions with ausuka after we have some flips, but there are a couple things that make me think she is more likely to be town than not

like what

you havent actually said anything here so i dont know how to respond to this

save the dragons - scummy entrance into the thread, thinking scum with unowen is very possible

like what, why

explained in my previous post

guiltylion - likely town imo, i do feel like gl is actually trying to sort me as opposed to how unowen is going about interacting with me

fine

lld - has done nothing of note, which i think is nai as either alignment. same approach as with pooky, town for now

lolwut

you havent actually said anything here so i dont know how to respond to this

herta - waiting for catchup, no real thoughts at the moment. easiest way to sort herta at the moment is for someone to tell me if scum herta declares treasurer or not.

wtf does this even mean

herta has also been very absent and so is difficult to sort, but if herta isnt a confident scum player i think declaring treasurer is unlikely. but i dont have the meta knowledge myself to know that

unowen - scummy for reasons discussed, plus providing basically no content since then except attacking me to try to slow their own wagon.

is this even true

yes

sircakez - theres nothing i have seen from cakez i particularly dislike, going to give him space to get going.

wtf does this even mean

cakez had an emotional reaction on day 1 so i am giving him a pass for now. otherwise i would find his lack of engagement concerning

bloodb0t - i didnt like 981, like really really didnt like, but dont feel like pushing a pr is likely to go anywhere and id rather focus on unowen at the moment

this one is fine

lolwut is not a meaningful way to engage, it just makes it seem like what i am saying doesnt make sense to everyone else in the thread

[meowth]

she had low wim because she pushed cakes and he smashed the ate button and told her that she was making the game miserable for him.

not sure if this is directed at me, but im not saying anything good or bad about it, i said it was nai
but i cant read lld until she is engaged with the game, i read her based on how she influences the game
even if she were heavily involved d1 i probably still wouldn't try to read her until later in the game, same as you
so by simple probability, im calling you both town until we get to a point where i can actually make some conclusions about your alignment
as i made clear earlier, on d1 im interested in the easy to sort players

[meowth]

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

meowth - when you say "the votes make [you] very suspicious", you're referring to the votes for sheriff right? didn't you also vote him for sheriff?

yes, i didnt analyze the whole pattern until after all the votes were cast unfortunately
at the time i could have gone either way with enchant or ausuka, in retrospect i prefer ausuka now

[meowth]

follow up, even if it were true I had nothing in the game readable, it's suspicious to call me town with nothing, even when you say that's your plan.

/shrug

maybe its suspicious to you but it is how i prefer to go about things
imo, theres too much to track on d1, you have to focus efforts to make progress
dont really see the difference with saying town to be resorted later vs just calling you null
the point of thinking of you and pooky is town is to just let you both lead and get shot and then i dont have to try to sort the players that can snow me

[meowth]

Mmm. Then why bother saying I've done nothing when that's provably false?

nothing, relatively speaking, compared to my previous experience with you

[meowth]

lean town, except there are a couple things i am questioning

im referring to a specific back and forth we had when i say limited interaction, though admittedly that wasnt clear

furtive had that one post (979) that stood out to me about the enchant read, also interesting tracker vote stuff

furtiveglance(6) - bloodb0t, enchant, meowth, pooky, sleepykrew, unowen

these are not my favorite votes


i liked 695 from actiondan

[meowth]

That's.... not what you wrote, you understand that right?

i thought it was close enough to get the point across, but sure

[meowth]

I also have NO FUCKIN' CLUE who the hell you are? Which is fine you don't have to tell me, but do understand it colours the way I view you.

i dont think that particularly matters.
it would if i were trying to use meta to sort you, which i was explicitly saying i was not doing
what i said (or meant to express at least), was i dont have enough info on lld yet to sort so im going to wait until d3 to see if she gets shot before i worry about it
but it doesnt really work if i say exactly that so i said something kind of similar instead

[meowth]

I also have NO FUCKIN' CLUE who the hell you are? Which is fine you don't have to tell me, but do understand it colours the way I view you.

i dont think that particularly matters.
it would if i were

trying to use meta to sort you,

which i was explicitly saying i was not doing
what i said (or meant to express at least),

was i dont have enough info on lld yet to sort so im going to wait until d3 to see if she gets shot before i worry about it
but it doesnt really work if i say exactly that so i said something kind of similar instead

is.....isn't this meta?

it is meta that changes how i approach you, not how i am currently reading you

[meowth]

How do you know unowen is scum

i dont obviously

if im trying to push a wagon and someone comes into the thread and tries to stop me without clear reason, should that not look weird to me?
if thats scummy, how would you expect a townie to react?

[meowth]

herta and meowth both seem likely to be scum, but i don't have a solid reason for it. just kind of a vibe that puts them below null.

VOTE: meowth

ausuka just feels like a lot of fluff

meowth's readlist kinda blows

I don't recall trying to stop you

i consider the above to be trying to stop me

[meowth]

hi xof

[meowth]

the only person who could maybe change this is meowth if he towns his ass off like wildly

idk i gave my reads, not much to do in the current game state. half the players hate the game and the other half replaced out. i had fun at least

[meowth]

I'd question only that Ausuka null-town read again, and ask for an expansion on it.

i felt some of the pushes on ausuka were weird and I felt that there was some jumping on in a way that didn't feel genuine
but like i said, it wasn't super strong, i would need to go back and really reread all of it. that was just my gut feeling when ausuka was getting pushed

[meowth]

Congrats to the scum team, just a really beautifully played game from Bingle LLD Alisae and

Meowth

I think.

[meowth]

Meowth may not feel this way but they earned every inch of this win with us by making me look so good.

<3 <3

Always a pleasure playing with you, glad we were on the same side this time

[meowth]

Thanks for inviting me and for moving Shea, it didn't go as I planned but I had fun

[meowth]

Modding*