Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Alisae]

you're really one to talk but

[Alisae]

it's not like any rational response I could give you would make you change your read LOL

[Alisae]

doesn't that leave too much room for wolf intervention? I guess telling them what we are going to do seems like something we don't need right now.

even if they know our actions there's probably not much 1 singular wolf is going to be able to do about it.
We occurred such a significant lead that it's just really oppressive to be a wolf in this game right now.
Town will get to shoot someone tonight and they'll likely get to shoot someone Night 5.
Ari is probably just actually a cop if shea flips wolf and if there are any protectives, those protectives will act as a sponge for Ari who will be able to cop and provide results.

[Alisae]

doesn't that leave too much room for wolf intervention? I guess telling them what we are going to do seems like something we don't need right now.

even if they know our actions there's probably not much 1 singular wolf is going to be able to do about it.
We occurred such a significant lead that it's just really oppressive to be a wolf in this game right now.
Town will get to shoot someone tonight and they'll likely get to shoot someone Night 5.
Ari is probably just actually a cop if shea flips wolf and if there are any protectives, those protectives will act as a sponge for Ari who will be able to cop and provide results.

if Ari is just a cop, how does she actually know who Shea visited.

in my eyes a tracker with only 1 wolf alive is a cop

[Alisae]

This one looks at Alisae and Shea but in no way trusts you. This one has no comment on your actions or purported actions.

how can u not trust me. I am the king.
Such disloyalty smh

Times change.

Empires fall.

True, i was deposed by my grandson.
The fact u haven't sworn loyalty to alisae is still very disloyal, who do u serve now?

The truth.

[Alisae]

mb this is just ez game

extremely easy

[Alisae]

now can we unvote and finish massclaim?

[Alisae]

Ari and Peta should be the ones running things right now tbh

[Alisae]

klick too ig
I feel like I have to be the one doing it though

[Alisae]

Nahhh we should probably leave this to the confirmed villagers right?

Ya those are the people that should be pushing massclaim.
Instead I'm the one that's doing it

[Alisae]

but I'm a wolf for pushing for massclaim ig LOL

[Alisae]

but I'm a wolf for pushing for massclaim ig LOL

Wouldn't be the first time I've seen it

it's a completely null point

[Alisae]

if anything I think massclaim helps village more than it hurts it right now so maybe if I'm a wolf it's not a good idea but also If I'm a wolf Cakez is alive right now and Asri is elimmed d2 because Cakez doesn't get guilted and I don't shoot Peta

[Alisae]

If Ari/Peta/Klick all vote mass claim then I am in

unvote

[Alisae]

I'm done screaming into a void.
If there is anyone who starts pushing for me to be in the wolfpool who shouldn't be I'll start yelling for that person's head.

Please unvote and continue massclaim as massclaim is +town ev in this gamestate. Not massclaiming today while I have 1 shot remaining of my action is a massive throw.

[Alisae]

Goodbye.

[Alisae]

Hi ok I have additional thought and then I am going to go.

Please continue massclaim. There's a lot of flexibility with my role and this gamestate. I can say that I for instance will always go on Ari. Furtive has a lot of options here and it's a complete coinflip as to what will actually happen.
Furtive can decide that he wants to shoot someone in the face. Furtive can also decide to protect Ari and we get an extremely safe cop clear.
Obviously the ladder is the better play. Most wolf teams will recognize this and would probably use this opportunity to shoot furtive as he is stupidly op right now due to the fact he has 2 very strong late game abilities (JK is super strong with 1 wolf left as the rb will clear someone if there's a kill. Vig is self-explanatory). Additionally most wolves will probably want to make sure that their kill actually goes through!

It's ultimately wine and how furtive decides to read the wine.
He can make sure Ari sees the next day phase alive or he can make the read that he's dying tonight (edit while writing the post: or gimli, gimli could also die tonight) and go for his gun.
Wolves have to make a read on what Furtive will actually do here. They can shoot Ari with the chance that their kill won't go through but to force us to be on Ari. Or they can just shoot Furtive.

I'll be honest I have no idea why wolves killed CSF. That kill seems really bad to me. To me it looked like they made that kill to try to get information on the setup but like they're probably anticipating massclaim tomorrow so they're going to get that information anyways and Gimli is a walking problem for wolves. ig wolves just completely bought that Furtive was 1-shot and didn't think to be skeptical of that. I was as it was weaker with my role but it didn't make sense to say anything about it d2 given his play so I just didn't. But like why CSF over Ari at this point in the game unless they think Ari won't track them which I could buy shea thinking that and performing the kill considering as that is most likely what happened. I could also see Shea thinking that he is in the worst position right now as a wolf and deciding to perform the kill based off of this logic.

Wolves also can't ignore Gimli. Because Gimli lives today, he gets to print another gun and is just going to keep printing more guns if he is kept alive. Wolves have to have an answer for him at some point. In fact, typing it out I can see wolves wanting to kill Gimli > Furtive tonight. They could let Gimli live last night but today would probably be too much and I can imagine wolves opting to look there in search of not having to deal with the wine while looking for an optimal move.

Now, if we have more protectives, then Furtive and Ari are actually just both unstoppable and there is actually a clear action here. Both of these players need to be alive to see the next day. I think there aren't any slots that are more important than these ones so it's fine if wolves shoot outside of them. If Gimli is shot at night here I think Village is happy with that. Village is okay with protectives being kill sponges. And obviously I think if wolves shoot someone that isn't {Gimli, other protectives} like Peta, me because they want to kill 2 villagers, Klick, or like anyone who doesn't have any actual power relevancy then we are also okay with that.

"BUT ALI HOW CAN WE BE OKAY WITH VILLAGERS DIEING"
Well wolves shooting Gimli tells the village that he's town.
Protectives with this kind of lead are perfectly okay being bullet sponges as they're doing their job to make sure that the most important players right now stay alive.
and then obviously anyone else that doesn't fit into the above puzzle so far is a great night kill as if they decide to go for those kills then they're blundering as things will just get worse for them.

If we have more investigative I'm pretty sure the game is over as those will also have to be addressed via nightkill.

If we really don't want to massclaim can we explain why instead of "eh we don't need to" or "the guy pushing for massclaim is a wolf kekw"

[Alisae]

I sent furtive my thing for obvious reasons, but in case it's not clear: there are three people mechanically clear after d1: petapan, aristeia and furtive. peta and aristeia are more likely to be kill targets for scum after d1. I would maybe send it to a strong TR like black or alisae instead but chose the guaranteed townie over the likely one.

Peta's kill equity goes down because his role is useless and there are more threatening roles right now that wolves will have to go after.

[Alisae]

I don't think I should be receiving any guns you print Gimli, I would have yelled at you if you gave me a gun. I probably should have explicitly told you not to give me a gun yesterday.
If I was in your shoes N2 I sending a gun to Peta that seems pretty safe. That or like Klick or MT. Those slots all would seem like safe choices to me if I was in your shoes.

[Alisae]

Alisae wants to save Shea?

YES OMG YES
I WANT TO SAVE SHEA BY ASKING PEOPLE TO UNVOTE HIM, JUST SO I CAN FINISH MASSCLAIM AND THEN WE ALL GO BACK TO VOTING SHEA

WHAT IS GOING ON??????????????

[Alisae]

WHAT KIND OF SAVE ATTEMPT IS "HEY CAN WE UNVOTE THE PERSON WHO IS GUILTIED THIS DAY PHASE SO WE CAN MASSCLAIM AND THEN VOTE HIM AFTER"
WHY WOULD I EVEN WANT TO SAVE SHEA?
WHAT HAVE I EVEN DONE THAT INDICATED I WANT TO KEEP SHEA ALIVE?

LIKE WHAT??????????????????

[Alisae]

Your closemindedness literally has no fucking bounds but

[Alisae]

Your closemindedness literally has no fucking bounds but

he is even more sure you're mafia now cause you're being a meanie

How to play villager 101

[Alisae]

I can multitask tonight yeah, so I'd assume Mafia could use it and kill on the same night

You can rb someone AND Shoot someone?
Lmfao

[Alisae]

I expect to see people going along with massclaim by the time I wake up and some unvotes while that’s happening.
There’s no way massclaim doesnt help us narrow it down. Game is over. Massclaim secures W. It’s too much for 1 wolf player to deal with themselves. Too many clears get made and PoE already is super small.

Goodnight.

[Alisae]

Btw I strongly believe that Asri and redff are way too stubborn to be reasoned with. You could print the Bible on how I’m town and they would still go “no sorry lol.” They’re the type of people that click on a YouTube video and instead of watching it, comment within the 5 seconds about how they’re right and you’re wrong.

They cannot be talked to.

Goodnight for real this time.

[Alisae]

Asri do not join games I am in

[Alisae]

Btw I strongly believe that Asri and redff are way too stubborn to be reasoned with. You could print the Bible on how I’m town and they would still go “no sorry lol.” They’re the type of people that click on a YouTube video and instead of watching it, comment within the 5 seconds about how they’re right and you’re wrong.

They cannot be talked to.

Goodnight for real this time.

People are allowed to scumread you lol.

No actually.
To fos me is to say that I opt to like Cakez get guiltied because ????, I shoot peta because???, and I shoot csf over other high prio kills because I like making suboptimal night actions.
I interpret such a read as a personal insult to my wolf play. It’s basically the same as calling me an incompetent wolf.

[Alisae]

Hi did we finish massclaim

[Alisae]

Some people claimed like Klick and fire but redff refuses

[Alisae]

Asri will likely refuse too

[Alisae]

We really should finish massclaim before any kind of elimination

[Alisae]

We won’t get a better opportunity in the game to do it so today is our best massclaim day.

[Alisae]

We really should be enforcing this

[Alisae]

2 wolves dead 1 guilted. Only 1 townie dead and it’s a role that wants to die.
How are we not massclaiming here?

[Alisae]

The argument that 1 wolf is going to use it outplay is just isn’t true, how do they get to endgame with what we claimed so far?
By massclaiming we’re locking the 1 singular wolf in a room and starving it until it loses all of its energy and eventually dies.

Why do we not want to do this?

[Alisae]

I don't think we gain anything except maybe telling the wolves whether they have to worry about protectives or not?

you're not going to find the last wolf by looking at a list of claims and saying hmm this one doesn't fit.

like misty claimed poker. does that sound like a scum role? a town role? like who really knows?

if people have something relevant and useful, I'd imagine they'd just claim themselves.

Why do you refuse to address my point on this, we are happy with protectives being bullet sponges here

[Alisae]

You keep repeating the samething over and over again without listening to me.

[Alisae]

A night a protective dies is a night that the roles that confirm players don’t die

[Alisae]

1a - Protective did it's job. If you died the following night town gets a vig shot. By this time we would have already cleared 2 players and killed 2 more. We kill kill 2 more players within that's cycle. Already that's 6 players the town is able to sort.
1b - If the protective is forced to claim within PoE then wolves are forced to shoot a player that is in our poe. That is now 7 players that the town is able to sort.

2 is a false premise. Furtive claimed that once 3 wolves die he has 1-shot left and for that 1-shot we're both on top of you.

[Alisae]

Like let's say there's a doctor in the game, why would it make sense to get that doctor to claim when he can just stay hidden and keep protecting either me or the gun maker dude?

village is happy with the gun maker dude dying.

[Alisae]

Firebringer - Hider
petapan - JOAT
Aristeia - Tracker
Alisae - 2-shot Strongwiller also PoE
fireisredsir - POE
Gimli - Gun guy we want wolves to kill because otherwise he keeps printing guns.
furtiveglance - JK
Klick - Cryer/messasger thing
Morning Tweet - POE
Mistyx - POE
Black - POE
redFF - POE
Asri Teroka - POE

[Alisae]

Wow is that EXACTLY 6-7 names in PoE????????????????

NO WAY

[Alisae]

1a - Protective did it's job. If you died the following night town gets a vig shot. By this time we would have already cleared 2 players and killed 2 more. We kill kill 2 more players within that's cycle. Already that's 6 players the town is able to sort.
1b - If the protective is forced to claim within PoE then wolves are forced to shoot a player that is in our poe. That is now 7 players that the town is able to sort.

2 is a false premise. Furtive claimed that once 3 wolves die he has 1-shot left and for that 1-shot we're both on top of you.

Nope. I have no ability once 3 Mafia die

oh dayum

[Alisae]

we should still go for massclaim just count how many eliminations we have

[Alisae]

I count 3

[Alisae]

I think we could easily win by mass claiming. But we can easily win without mass claiming too. If we don't need to mass claim then we shouldn't

I want to guarantee that there is no way wolves can win the game. I feel like massclaiming does this

[Alisae]

if scum have to shoot in the POE to hunt down a protective that's a massive win for us

having the protective outted in a massclaim is not ideal

Potential doctors = PoE. If said doctor claim, it would most likely come from a slot that is PoE. Said claim does not take them out of PoE UNLESS they are shot.
I feel like you should be able to identify this

[Alisae]

assuming we're down to one lone wolf in a large theme rolemadness game - I think mass claim helps map out exactly the ideal kill order for that lone wolf to win.

instead of having decision points about whether to guess on if a protective exists or what kind of things the town can still have hidden, they basically know exactly how to get from point A to point B.

Who are the slots that can win the game and how do they win the game? This seems like you're tunneled on the now but not multiple day phases ahead.
Should be made obvious by what happens in the game! It's easy to identify who is a wolf based on this because we can easily try to predict what each wolf player would want to do to go forward and said wolf player is have to want to go forward on their own. If they don't do this, we should be able to as a village identify this.

[Alisae]

if scum have to shoot in the POE to hunt down a protective that's a massive win for us

having the protective outted in a massclaim is not ideal

Potential doctors = PoE. If said doctor claim, it would most likely come from a slot that is PoE. Said claim does not take them out of PoE UNLESS they are shot.
I feel like you should be able to identify this

I don't understand your point

Think about who can claim doctor and how happy the village is if that player is shot.

[Alisae]

wait misty claimed poker I forgot


Firebringer - Hider
petapan - JOAT
Aristeia - Tracker
Alisae - 2-shot Strongwiller also PoE
fireisredsir - POE
Gimli - Gun guy we want wolves to kill because otherwise he keeps printing guns.
furtiveglance - JK
Klick - Cryer/messasger thing
Morning Tweet - POE
Mistyx - Poker
Black - POE
redFF - POE
Asri Teroka - POE

[Alisae]

Asri get shot for being a protective, they like that. Heck I would love that especially. Their play is probably villagery but obvs they have assoicatives with lycan. There is a lot of doubt here.
RedFF I can see there being a lot of doubt but also play is villagery. I think RedFF dieing is something village is okay with.
Black PoE. Slot is townie but they could have also hard defended wolves all game. Guy could have thought of 1 wolf teammate as the other. I also don't like how he backpedalled from D1 and me saying it and him saying "it makes sense" to "no you're wrong." that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. I can see Klick's point on how he could have thought of 1 wolf before the other.
MT PoE apparently people fos this slot.
Fireisredsir PoE. Many players are doubting this slot right now

If there is a doctor, it is within these slots

[Alisae]

what if noone claims doctor? you just let the mafia know they dont have to worry about a doctor and we gained nothing.

Why do we have to eliminate shea today? Furtive can jk you and I can make you unable to be stopped tonight. Even if we don't catch a wolf with the track tonight I bet you can think of an action that helps you solve the game a bit more.

[Alisae]

This is not me defending Shea, this is me exploring that route of play thoroughly btw. I want to explore what happens if we opt to keep Furtive as a full JK and try to hunt in the PoE today.
I think Shea should be eliminated today it's quite risky to shoot blind

[Alisae]

wouldnt shea just kill again if furtive jks me and you make me unblockable how would i find anything useful

You could find something useful if we massclaimed
Maybe someone doing what they're supposed to do.

[Alisae]

Furtive has a vig as well eh could just shoot Shea at night

[Alisae]

ig klick is right on ending the day as soon as we can. I'll vote shea if I'm satisfied with the conversation because I want to actually have the conversation about it

[Alisae]

I know Klick is like conftown almost but why did that seem coordinated?

I want black flipped because he's making statements like these btw

[Alisae]

if town that's a good observation if wolf he's trying to create more miselim opportunities where there shouldn't be

[Alisae]

like legit info pls don't shoot MT

??????????

[Alisae]

I know Klick is like conftown almost but why did that seem coordinated?

I want black flipped because he's making statements like these btw

Shit lines up with everything I've done this game. I'm pretty sure I've fos'ed or scumread over half the player list

Don't care about how it lines up with the rest of the game I care about what wolves would want to do now in this awful shit position they're in

[Alisae]

I think RedFF and Asri should not be shot.
I would understand shooting Misty I think there is more to her poke than she's not saying but my gut tells me it's town

[Alisae]

I know Klick is like conftown almost but why did that seem coordinated?

Because TSQ's self-hammer(?) was very intentional and my vote enabled it

There's little to be gained for scum!Klick to desperately want a hammer to happen though

true

[Alisae]

is he even hammered?
I feel like that's 7 not 8

[Alisae]

I just woke up and I didn't read

[Alisae]

I know Klick is like conftown almost but why did that seem coordinated?

I want black flipped because he's making statements like these btw

Shit lines up with everything I've done this game. I'm pretty sure I've fos'ed or scumread over half the player list

Don't care about how it lines up with the rest of the game I care about what wolves would want to do now in this awful shit position they're in

Yeah I don't think pushing for a Klick lim D4 would be in my top agenda if I'm wolf. But obviously you can't trust that statement

it's planting a seed that would bare fruit late game

[Alisae]

@alisae What do i look like to you an accountant?

Yes

[Alisae]

cakez was very blatantly trying to pocket black in an unsubtle way

idunno then

[Alisae]

@alisae What do i look like to you an accountant?

Yes

WELL IM OFF THE CLOCK AND I DONT COUNT WHEN IM NOT GETTING PAID

time to get on the clock then

[Alisae]

MT VOTED??????????

[Alisae]

WHY

[Alisae]

I finna shoot MT, any objectors?

fireisredsir objects

[Alisae]

fireisredsir apparently has info that should PROBABLY BE OUTED WHY ARE WE OUTING THIS AT TWILIGHT

[Alisae]

Who am I on I don't think I have a good target

[Alisae]

im a novice traffic analyst and MT does not have communications

i am now useless unfort but w/e pls don't shoot there

spicy

[Alisae]

doesn't that literally clear villagers

[Alisae]

like that role looks like it just can't clear klick

[Alisae]

I think we should just talk about anime again

ajrhfsdkli;ghsad LOL ok sure I'm down
what have you watched recently?

[Alisae]

mb we shouldve just stuck TSQ in jail forever and used fire to look for the partner rofl

THGIS IS WHY WE MASSCLAIM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

[Alisae]

conftown:
petapan - JOAT
Aristeia - Tracker
furtiveglance - JK

basically conftown:
Firebringer - Hider
Gimli - Gun guy we want wolves to kill because otherwise he keeps printing guns.
Klick - Cryer/messasger thing
Morning Tweet - CLEARED VIA FIREISREDSIR
fireisredsir - Novice TA



Shooty List:
Alisae - 2-shot Strongwiller also PoE
Mistyx - Poker


Firebringer visits:
Black - POE
redFF - POE
Asri Teroka - POE

[Alisae]

gg ez. Massclaim is like the cheat code we don't need

do you wanna contribute

[Alisae]

like that role looks like it just can't clear klick

No it clears people as long as there's more than 1 scum alive
Which would have been great to know before TSQ was hammered!

o lol

[Alisae]

claim sounds real to me though happy to call it town and if it's a wolf then omegalul

[Alisae]

Ari MVP

[Alisae]

I think you mean Ari is the cheat code.

why didn't cakez act

[Alisae]

Asri is also a shot I suppose

[Alisae]

black donowalled me on if he wanted to contribute to massclaim or not ig not

[Alisae]

I think you mean Ari is the cheat code.

why didn't cakez act

I think this question is directly asking me to act against my win condition come on I'm not going to give you any info here.

was worth a shot

[Alisae]

Twitch speak is cringe, can we all agree

I wanna be a twitch streamer leave me alone

[Alisae]

sorry i haven't been reading not caught up i didn't know the vote was being rushed through

I am happy oyu claimed during twilight

[Alisae]

Mistyx and redFF are the two realistic scum slots here

Yes

[Alisae]

RedFF saying he played well for voting the guiltied wolves is funny btw

[Alisae]

Like look at the wagon comp it's pretty bad

[Alisae]

sorry i haven't been reading not caught up i didn't know the vote was being rushed through

Don't worry. It's not really a big deal. Alisae and I just can't be satisfied unless play is 100% optimal.

I played yugioh pretty seriously so ya I'm kinda triggered but I mean unclaimed slots cna still claim while thread is open

[Alisae]

fireisredsir you needed to push for massclaim with me

[Alisae]

in fact you probably could have claimed to push it through

[Alisae]

I played ok and got role fucked repeatedly.

you were in the poe

[Alisae]

redff is a neitghborizer ftr

THATS A WOLF ROLE

[Alisae]

redff is a neitghborizer ftr

THATS A WOLF ROLE

100% WOLF ROLE

[Alisae]

THEY ACT ON NIGHT 1 SO THE NOVICE CAN'T GUILTY THEM

[Alisae]

100% WOLF ROLE

[Alisae]

Yeah, red recruited me first then peta. We have a vig shot tonight but we all have to agree on it...

lol

[Alisae]

WHY DIDN'T YOU MASSCLAIM THIS

[Alisae]

btw the scum team is 6 people.

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

[Alisae]

so the novice can only guilty one out of the four scum?

I bet RedFF could also target any of his unhooded teammates n1. There might actually be restrictions though

[Alisae]

I would shoot RedFF here

[Alisae]

Have Black's hood shoot Misty

[Alisae]

Misty is not a wolf if RedFF is a wolf

[Alisae]

as expected I think I have nothing to do in this game anymore

[Alisae]

Fire hide behind me I think that's a good action!

[Alisae]

Fire hide behind me I think that's a good action!

idk dude, i went to ur place last night and it was messy.

I'll make it worse for you it'll be easier for you to hide

[Alisae]

Fire hiding behind Asri is also good

[Alisae]

I'll shoot redFF then, redFF hood shoots Misty. right?

petapan, Black: Is redFF conftown or could they be Mafia?

he's not conftown but the role being scum would go against all rational expectation

User Alisae thinks it is a wolf

[Alisae]

User Alisae thinks it would make sense for it to be a wolf role

[Alisae]

RedFF should be flipped cuz if he is disloyal he just cleared black LOL

[Alisae]

User Alisae thinks it would make sense for it to be a wolf role

this isn't MU scum like never have kill power here and the way he used it isn't really scummy but we can probably autopilot this anyway

we'll vig misty

Fire can't guilty it N1.

[Alisae]

I will say that there is probably more to Misty's poking role if she's a wolf but I think we're best flipping both slots.

I have seen wolves give out guns but usually they are disloyal

[Alisae]

I want to say if you shoot red, our hood doesn't get the vig shot

there's nothing in the PT that indicates that

If there is something that turns it off it's in redFF's rolecard

[Alisae]

Fire hiding behind me and Asri seems good.
Having hood shoot Misty (something that if RedFF is a villager he will want to do) and having Furtive shoot RedFF seems wise

[Alisae]

like i dont think a scum vig can shoot and do the normal NK at the same night no?

don't think we have the information to be able to tell

[Alisae]

seems like it has been settled!

[Alisae]

This game seems like it plays itself.
I think I can be AFK for the rest of the game?

I don't think I act tonight

[Alisae]

ik who I would track tonight if I'm Ari

[Alisae]

no Ari can decide for herself.
if she wants my suggestions she can ask me!

[Alisae]

I am tempted to keep my shot actually for a night that Ari wants to track me that seems like it could be solid.

[Alisae]

so ya probably not acting tonight I think my role is a visitor right now unless I am told to act.

[Alisae]

I bet the last wolf is on this wagon btw

[Alisae]

I think RedFF's role sounds a lot more wolf indicative than Gimli's!

[Alisae]

There is definitely at least one wolf on the wagon.

ya you

[Alisae]

oh ok

[Alisae]

guys shea is town cuz he says so he must be telling the truth right!

[Alisae]

Hi I think the last wolf is in {Gimli, RedFF}

[Alisae]

I hope Ari tracked Gimli that seems like the best track

[Alisae]

Ya don't think there is a clear wolf kill

[Alisae]

I wouldn't shoot any of those players if I'm a wolf I'm just sayin
or Peta I don't shoot Peta N1 but I mean hey some crazy people think this

[Alisae]

it doesn't matter too much anymore though.
This game is so over there is no way wolves can endgame

[Alisae]

Say village eliminates me
Gimli hands out a gun to villager
wolves shoot a villager
RedFF hood shoots Gimli

8p alive
Get RedFF next day phase

vig black, fire hide behind black
wolves shoot a villager

Klick, Fireisredsir, and 2 of {Ari Furtive MT Peta} in F4

Game plays itself

[Alisae]

I would eliminate Klick in F4 btw.

[Alisae]

there's probably a better way to do it I don't know the details of fire's role nor do I care

[Alisae]

above comment is about hider

[Alisae]

oh and massclaim we should probably finish that in case any unclaimed individuals have anything interesting to add

[Alisae]

VOTE: RedFF
Guy is probably just a wolf given the Novice TA is town.

[Alisae]

village should be trying to get fast nights if possible btw

[Alisae]

I got tracked to the person who died dude, in a game where town has a million extra flips. I ain't mad about it but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm not dying today. As long as the following people don't reach endgame we're gucci:

redFF:
Asri Teroka
Mistyx
fireisredsir

Lim those 4 in a row and there's no way the game isn't over.

eeeeeeeeeh

[Alisae]

VOTE: gimli

[Alisae]

Sorting my reads because maybe this will help me have a better grasp:

My brothers in christ:

Firebringer
Klick

Good vibes:

Morning Tweet
furtiveglance
Cat Scratch Fever

Idk whatever:

Aristeia
SirCakez
Taly
Gimli
Lycanfire
Black

Stinky:

petapan
Alisae
Mistyx
redFF
Asri Teroka

Definitelyscum, no doubt:

[Alisae]

Scum:
Firebringer

Could be scum:
ActionDan
redFF
SirCakez

Ehhhhhhhh:
furtiveglance
Gimli

Maybe slightly tinged green:
Asri Teroka
petapan
Alisae
Mistyx
Cat Scratch Fever
fireisredsir

Town Core:
Klick
Morning Tweet
Black
Aristeia

Roughly in order of reads within tiers.

[Alisae]

VOTE: gimli

If the game doesn't end with a red red flip I'll give you the vig and you can shoot me with me tomorrow night

That sounds absolutely terrible

[Alisae]

I think it's lame that village has to vote me out but like I get it and I also don't really care anymore game is won

[Alisae]

VOTE: redff

[Alisae]

I'll vote redFF with you but giving me a gun seems like a very bad idea

[Alisae]

I can think of a bajillion arguments for why I'm a villager but it doesn't really matter anymore lol

[Alisae]

wow it's almost like we should have listened to ali
maybe massclaimed?

[Alisae]

I'm losing my mind
I should probably just head to bed

[Alisae]

Fireisred is already conftown

[Alisae]

Role is townie

[Alisae]

MT check seems townie

[Alisae]

the only real poe is {me, black, klick, gimli, redff}

[Alisae]

it would be pretty wild if it was a 5 person mafia team

I feel like that goes against what your role pm implies

[Alisae]

MT & Black should really claim in full at this point

[Alisae]

well it says 3 dead scum, it doesn't say 1 scum left alive

This does not change my statement

[Alisae]

Why is morning tweet clear again?

clear by Novice TA

[Alisae]

MT & Black should really claim in full at this point

black claimed in the hood

ok

[Alisae]

do you want to bless us with that information?

[Alisae]

do you want to bless us with that information?

You're really not gonna stop until you find the protective role huh?

irrelevant at this stage of the game.

[Alisae]

why are you shitting on me for suggesting massclaim when it was clearly the superior play

[Alisae]

I don't see the town motive in this

[Alisae]

VOTE: gimli

[Alisae]

-2 shots
-I can target a dead town player at night
-I learn: who they last targeted, what night they attempted this, what ability they used, and what results they received (if applicable)

great once mt claims we can start massclaim all over again from the top

[Alisae]

VOTE: gimli

[Alisae]

Let’s get the killing role with 0 restrictions

[Alisae]

If I’m a wolf I can’t do anything

[Alisae]

Should be fairly easy to figure out

[Alisae]

Firebringer should be on Black not the Novive TA that is definitely not a fakeclaim

[Alisae]

Black should continue to massclaim

[Alisae]

I'm not sure who it is anymore. Maybe Morning Tweet is scum without a PT?

Not me

[Alisae]

It is one of these 5 players (technically 4 since not me)
Black
Klick
Gimli
RedFF

[Alisae]

Gimli

[Alisae]

the only real reason I have to TR gimli > redff is cuz gimli has townie vibes and energy

I think RedFF is more likely to be town than gimli

[Alisae]

VOTE: alisae

[Alisae]

village should be asking for fast nights

[Alisae]

hey alisae how ur sunday been

I woke up I'm sleepy I need to eat something

[Alisae]

I just did

[Alisae]

poggers

[Alisae]

Can we go back in a time machine to day 3 where we has the biggest lead I ever had in a mafia game and massclaim?

[Alisae]

He can’t keep getting away with it!!!!

[Alisae]

Me personally I would have killed gimli on the basis of op role and he was advocating to “let Lycanfire cook”