i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[MathBlade]

I do that as town too

It’s not about what YOU do. Reread what I said again. It’s about what OTHERS do.

[MathBlade]

Who are my scumpartners then?

I am not sure. This is likely multiball or SK I’d rather get one non good off the block. I can team world once that happens.

[MathBlade]

Who are my scumpartners then?

I am not sure. This is likely multiball or SK I’d rather get one non good off the block. I can team world once that happens.

Right but your read on me is based on the way others are treating my slot, so surely your scumread on me is contingent on scumreading others first?

My read is how the sus on you was immediately drowned out rather than ignored.

I don’t know which player is doing it and I don’t have to yet.

It’s just the thing that makes the most sense to me.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Math objecting to scum wagon because people coordinated without him

VOTE: Pooky

Say less

VOTE: Pooky

And I'd rather get you to stop posting 4-5 times a page so people can coordinate...

Coordinate please...

VOTE: pooky

VOTE: Pooky

And I'd rather get you to stop posting 4-5 times a page so people can coordinate...

Coordinate please...

Why are you so against me trying to lead coordination?

I literally left for hours and no one post

I then try to lead BGC and you literally accepted the fact you’d have to bus BGC or Frog

Then Maria while well intentioned offers anyone else

Then you take it.

It makes my blood boil because anytime I block or lead a charge you’re inherently against it.

Give me time to lead.

VOTE: pooky

Oh hell no

I don’t want Pooky anymore

Like this many wagons to avoid BGC only reinforces BGC scum to me

No one wants to work with you Mathblade because you aren't listening. Everything gets filtered through your worldview and repeated over again. You respond to every conversation interrupting people and blocking reactions. I refused to give reads because it would cause you to post more and I feel like they are shit in this environment.

I can't tell BCG from Save from Enchant atm.

I objected correctly that game because scum wanted BGC to live and sacrificed Pooky to do it.

Can you like not twist things to suit your agenda?

Town or scum I know you have one now.

[MathBlade]

At the point of your objection that game, MariaR, Frogsterking and I were all town.

Coulda sworn Luke pushed Pooky too

Just a sec

[MathBlade]

Nope misremembered

I still think BGC shoulda been elimmed there though

I get drowned out anytime I sus scum correctly

And it feels exactly like that game

[MathBlade]

I have to do some more work. RL sucks gotta go.

[MathBlade]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who scum don’t want.

[MathBlade]

kitten around is very likely flipping scum because there's little chance her defense of quiet owl on d1 to frogster came from town.

?? This doesn’t follow if you think QO is town?

[MathBlade]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who

scum

don’t want.

who is the word "scum" referring to in this sentence?

Both of them.

KA+QO scum together
KA defended QO.
Therefore KA is an acceptable loss to that team.

Scum doesn’t want QO dead so let’s elim QO.

[MathBlade]

I got fruit. Be on later.

From me.

I was hoping to see if scum would bus drive you again.

Today has been a day of chores.

VOTE: UltimateGamer

Ranger feels miselim bait but if it goes high enough (and with TRs) I will go there

[MathBlade]

Not sure about the innocent neighbor I’ve PMed

[MathBlade]

I got fruit. Be on later.

From me.

I was hoping to see if scum would bus drive you again.

Today has been a day of chores.

VOTE: UltimateGamer

Ranger feels miselim bait but if it goes high enough (and with TRs) I will go there

And yes I am saying Busdrive because I don’t think SK redirection.

[MathBlade]

And regarding the death innocent neighbor I got the very useful answer of won’t explain. Hooray! /sarcasm

[MathBlade]

Checks neighborhood thread

Oh I am an idiot.

Let me sleep it’s been a week

[MathBlade]

I sent you a vegetable. Did anyone else get a vegetable?

If nobody claims veggie'd then there are 2 options:
- I was RBed
- Ranger is ascetic

Ranger would have to be even night ascetic.

They did get my fruit (or likely did there were some weird shenanigans).

I am guessing scum shenanigans.

[MathBlade]

She sorry*

[MathBlade]

I assure you I'm not ascetic. I would've claimed that D1.

Either a scum redirector pogged (see Titus D1) or you're just lying. Or the mod lied but it seems almost too cruel even for a bastard game.

VOTE: Ranger sorry

Also yeah there are 2 vendors, me and Math.

Can you Unvote?

I don’t want Ranger flash wagoned until we can figure out the redirection or see if someone else claims to get your vend. Then maybe we can piece together scum’s intentions since it wasn’t claimed.

Note this is not asking to not elim Ranger (even though I think she’s miselim bait)

It’s asking to make sure at least everyone has a chance to post to see if the vend went anywhere.

[MathBlade]

Okay! Nevermind about Gimli or Lycan. I cannot see a world where either are scum. Ranger looks a whole lot worse and everyone else probably wants my blood now And I deserve it.

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I noticed kitten around fencesat on you/Ythan several times (998,1097, 1836).

Okay so they were a... Compulsive... Disloyal... Doctor...

Okay... So they were a doctor, that used their ability every night regardless of user input, but the doctor ability ONLY worked on townies? So a negative utility for the mafia? Did they get to control who they targeted at all or was it random? If it was random that'd be annoying for them because they could target who they were trying to kill. If it wasn't random it'd be useless because

I'd just target

some townie that we weren't touching that night.

This whole paragraph is pointless speculation that won't be solved til postgame and doesn't matter either way. The use of "I'd" is interesting to me given the rest of the paragraph is third person - seems like a slip maybe? Though I do tend to place too much weight in those sorts of things. However I do think kitten's approach to your slot is suspicious.

VOTE: UltimateGamer

It was also interesting to note kitten around townread three known town players early on D1. Also townread bianca/Gamma and CSF who've also flipped town, and was quick to believe Titus and me on the mason claim. So seens like a player who tries to get town cred with good reads and let town (or other scum) drive mislims.

By contrast kitten said either Prince or MathBlade is scum, and "one of" Prince, McMenno or lycan.

I feel suspicious of Prince based on that. Also because I lean town on lycan.

With trying to read McMenno I don't know what's more likely, would kitten try to get McMenno limmed instead of themselves if McMenno is town or if McMenno is scum, for bussing credit?

Kitten seems to have studiously avoided giving a read on Ranger which definitely doesn't ease my suspicions of Ranger.

I think there are multiple scum among:

Math, Elements, furtive
UG, Prince, Ranger

Not sure whether to add Owl in, on the one hand kitten did seem to defend Owl and try to slow a wagon on Owl D1, on the other hand kitten's reaction to being suspected for the confused townread on Owl seems a bit like scum annoyed at being caught for the wrong reasons which would point to Owl being town?

I don’t follow the logic here.

Why the two groups?

I know I am not as active but it’s crunch.

I am sorta just limping along best I can tbh.

[MathBlade]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Huh?

[MathBlade]

Kill: Ultimate Gamer

If I die, UG isn't mafia. Could be some other evil, but isn't mafia.

Omg

I think he is town though, hope I'm wrong

I have an annoying habit of grabbing things dangled in front of me. And i don't have the restraint not to use a day vig shot when given one. Especially when I don't know what my role is

You were given a day vig?

Is this what you meant earlier when I asked if you were given something good?

Meaning Titus maybe should have gotten the dayvig and it passed to you?

Or did you as scum steal it?

This leaves a lot more questions than answers.

[MathBlade]

Though it doesn't matter now, I don't see how anything in that imaginality post was compelling. If it weren't for the mason claim I would be voting imaginality until he was eliminated, the same as kitten around. With the mason claim, I'm still tempted. Disregarding the claim, he's been the scummiest poster of the game to me by a good margin.

Can we like just not?

Let’s actually talk shit out.

[MathBlade]

Sounds like Desperado role

Kinda does. Which makes me sus of Titus’s claim.

A desperado AND a suicide bomber?

Possible but that’s weird.

I would like for people to talk stuff out.

[MathBlade]

Sounds like Desperado role

'tis indeed
Or at least I was gifted a desperado shot

Were you? Or was it originally intended for Titus?

[MathBlade]

Cat Scratch Fever has died. she was a town even night tracker neighbor.

biancospino has died. they were a town neighbor death innocent neighbor.

GeorgeBailey has been modkilled. he was a town night 2 compulsive loyal weak vigilante.

votecount 3.01

next time, on dragon ball z

16 players not voting (Quiet Owl, Prince of Paterson, McMenno, Lycanfire, Titus, HighPrincessErinys, imaginality, Elements, Enchant, Gimli, Not_Mafia, MathBlade, Ranger, KittyTacky, furtiveglance, UltimateGamer)

with 16 votes, it took 9 to eliminate.

mod notes: quick note about the modkill: I generally want to avoid modkills under all circumstances, but in light of the unique nature of his role, we decided this was a cleaner answer then extending the night any further waiting for a replacement.

….

[MathBlade]

MathBlade do you care to explain your progression on Kitten Owl? Your read on McMenno?

You know me long enough to know I don’t do “progressions”. I am a seat of the moment kind of person.

[MathBlade]

Yeah sorry not good enough. Just do as you've done before and just sort people on the recent pages. Suggesting you have to throw out the entirety of day 2 and start again stinks.

Wait a minute. You’re calling out someone for bad reads. She’s re-evaluating those bad reads and reevaluating stinks?

I think at best you’re in a tunnel and at worst this is opportunistic as fuck given UG is likely town.

[MathBlade]

So far you've really given us nothing. That's a valid complaint. Sure, QO looks bad. I've agreed with you on that all game. Saving us the RVS commentary would have helped.

You need to know when to hold 'em n shit like that Ranger.

I don’t see how she’s given us “nothing”. By that definition we are all running around like chickens with our heads cut off and everyone has given “nothing”.

VOTE: Lycanfire

Ranger still feels like miselim bait and you’re scum for picking two easy “targets”.

[MathBlade]

votecount 3.03

slept through my alarms this morning... damn

4 players voting for Quiet Owl (HighPrincessErinys, Gimli, imaginality, furtiveglance)
2 players voting for Ranger (Titus, Lycanfire)

9 players not voting (Quiet Owl, Prince of Paterson, McMenno, Enchant, Not_Mafia, MathBlade, Ranger, KittyTacky, UltimateGamer)

with 15 votes, it takes 8 to eliminate.

mod notes:

This wagon sucks btw. I don’t like it.

[MathBlade]

I will be afk until after the shutdown. Good luck!

[MathBlade]

Gg all.

I am taking a break from MS for a bit.

I am sorry I hurt Gamma it was not my intent.

Hope everyone had fun!