Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Toogeloo]

Hey. I replaced Maid Cafe. Game was in limbo until the slot was replaced, so I agreed to help out.

I am not reading Day 1. I am perfectly willing to sheep my vote today if someone is conftown.

[Toogeloo]

We can be oblivious together. I got something

else

in common with you, Fire!

[Toogeloo]

actually mastina could be scum. Wow that would be spicy.

I just checked mastina's iso. As someone who fancies themselves a bit of a mastina sleuth, I think she is pretty healthily in her town range.

I'll probably sheep that slot once she's done voting me.

[Toogeloo]

Oh wait, she's not the one voting me. Carry on.

[Toogeloo]

Is Math a DayVig?

[Toogeloo]

It isn't a scumclaim.
It isn't impossible for PPF to Town Ascetic or if we got blocked.
The Loyal modifier doesn't make PPF scum unless it can be proven that the above was false.
-Rubella

Shouldn't the most obvious solution be pursued first?

[Toogeloo]

Loyals are typically blocked when they target opposite alignment though. This seems like the most obvious answer, doesn't it?

VOTE: PPF

Occam's Razor

[Toogeloo]

I shouldn't have gotten involved with whatever is going on, I obviously don't have enough information and was just trying to get involved.

I need a flock.

[Toogeloo]

Thing that I disagree with mastina with: MMR could absolutely be roleblocked. MMR is in the mafia pool. Any non-MMR aligned roleblocker has a good reason to target MMR. This is multiball! No one wants their enemies taking actions.

Why can't solar mafia have a roleblocker that acts at night as an inter-scum balance measure?

Why Solar? This seems specific.

[Toogeloo]

Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol

This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.

[Toogeloo]

I just saw the player list and realized that not only do we have a lot of Hydra, as Math pointed out, they are pretty big. I've never honestly been a fan of hydrae, tbqh.

I'd like to hear Firebringer's thoughts from the similar school of, "I'm not reading Day 1," as me. See if we are n'sync.

[Toogeloo]

why does toogaloo feel that there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town? Who is calling ppf town?

I suppose it's just the perspective that there are more people interested in eliminating MMR over PPF, and I forget it's Multiball sometimes.

[Toogeloo]

Holy balls.

That's another 20 pages...

I
AIN'T
READING

Isn't this one of those post restriction games?

Some1sum^plz

[Toogeloo]

I bit the bullet and read the past 20 pages...

Nothing has changed sans some anti-mastina revolution started. People need to stop repeating themselves.

[Toogeloo]

What motivation does scum Loyal claim a failed action?

[Toogeloo]

Was there a plan for MMR to target PPF yesterday? If that was put out into the universe, could some scum-fuckery have caused result issues, especially if PPF is as widely town read as suggested. Some one break down the chain of events. Otherwise, I'm just assuming what I have been.

[Toogeloo]

Sp how would you do the day, Math, if you had complete control? Vig target, Elim, etc.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:

I'll wait to see how the rest of the votes fall.

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Mathblade

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Mathblade

Is this a serious vote?
-Rubella

lol

Whatever.

UNVOTE:

[Toogeloo]

DDS, what is your read on Toog?
Something about them voting Math and then instantly unvoting when asked if it was serious, feels somewhat off.
-Rubella

It was a joke in response to T-Bone

VOTE: PPF

I think the mastina voters should move here.

[Toogeloo]

Toogeloo's presence is far lower than I feel Toog would have if town, here.

Seriously? I just replaced into this game day into basically a 3 way shitstorm. I picked a side and have sat here listening to...

The...
Same...
Fucking...
Arguments...
Every...
Day...

I'm impressed I've managed to even post twice a day.

[Toogeloo]

Due to multiple rules infractions involving OGI and personal attacks, mastina is being replaced. They may no longer post in the game thread.

Nevermind.

Mastina was playing to her town meta, but I think had been acting in a very close minded capacity. Hopefully we move past this.

[Toogeloo]

I will swap my vote to MMR if it will move the game along. Feels like a stalemate with no compromise at the moment.

[Toogeloo]

Enchant, T-Bone...

Come back to PPF.

[Toogeloo]

I have stated before that I will swap to MMR just to avoid a stalemate. But I don't think this is a stalemate so much that it is just waiting for replacements, one of which is probably an important piece to the day.

[Toogeloo]

Who's even still eligible to replace into this game XD.

[Toogeloo]

Did a brief skim. Here's my two cents.

---Math claimed whichever of MMR and PPF wasn't eliminated yesterday would be shot today. Assumption being that they were both scum, just opposite teams.
---Mastina claims she can clear PPF during the night phase before being replaced out.
---CSF says mastina was messed with at night.

Does Lunar/Solar mess with mastina/Meuh at night in the hopes that Math just Vigs PPF? Or does Solar PPF just take their chances and mess with mastina/Meuh and hope Math doesn't kill them? Why not just attack Math and force town to eliminate them instead?

[Toogeloo]

I'm a bit surprised that both... 1) T-Bone was chosen to be "burned," and 2)RR just so happen to pick T-Bone to protect.

I thought Math would be the obvious night target, personally.

[Toogeloo]

To rephrase, I guess it wouldn't be improbable for any person on the player list to be target by scum for any reason, but from what I personally viewed yesterday, you did not make yourself a big target. So while I guess it it's possible to see you getting burned, I find it odd that not only did you get burned, but just so happened to be protected from the burn as well when there are definitely bigger persona's in the game.

RR, tell me your reads?

You said you didn't want to protect Math because you thought he was already, and you didn't want to protect Meuh/mastina because you think they are scum as well, but I don't remember you ever even talking about T-Bone, let alone town reading them. Why not the next more vocal players who shared your opinions, like unwnd or furtiveglance?

[Toogeloo]

Why are people saying they are aligned with Solar and Lunar but are town? Is this a hidden mechanic because my role PM doesn't have anything like that.

[Toogeloo]

I don't know if I necessarily agree with traitors. Two scum factions both with the possibility of a traitor would mean either a stacked town power squad, or more numbers, but this game started with 17, right? We assuming 3 or 4 scum per faction, and a traitor would put town at near 50% from the get go.

[Toogeloo]

I wasn't assuming 3/4

Thought someone said 3 or 4. I remember that from yesterday at least.

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Ydrasse

This is where I want my vote, I think.

[Toogeloo]

I'm just not getting into this game. I replaced into a VT slot and there's just been nothing but mechanics talk about traitors and/or cults. Math would have been better vigging me since unwnd actually kind of grasped what was going on. I actually town read them too.

My mindset right now is that we cull the lurkers and hope that the active players get sorted through night kills.

[Toogeloo]

Is that a Math joke, lol.

[Toogeloo]

Holy shit can you two stop already. It's the same back and forth for literally the entire day.

[Toogeloo]

V/LA Thanksgiving weekend.

[Toogeloo]

Furtive was one of my town reads after Day 2. This is dumb.

[Toogeloo]

After Day 2, my biggest town reads were mastina/Meuh, unwnd, furtive, and Math.

Now I pretty much just tryst my read on Meuh and furtive, and that's it.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Enchant

[Toogeloo]

Hey, sorry to my teammates. I had no intention of replacing our, but I was literally travelling all day on Monday, returning from my family's farm, and I had set my V/LA to represent that, and even pm'd the mod, but I think 5 days of not being able to play was too long for MegA. When I finally got back online Tuesday after Thanksgiving weekend, I had already been replaced.

Solid effort though, Rat, Nancy, and Titus.