Community Redux | Postgame

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VOTE: Frog

Be honest. I caught you last time, didn't I?

You did not. I'm still highly confused about the entire situation.

VOTE: Titus

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Also, I should probably tell you. You are not so nice people and you'll believe I've sold my soul to mafia. But I'm a nice person, you know the drill.

yo hang on what say again?

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the last setup is released here

The SK could fake confirm themselves as town or mafia to people of their choosing, as well as had a full town role PM fake claim

The leader of the mafia had the ability to unavoidably perform kills, if they were the one doing it

Obviously there was a traitor which was already mentioned. I don't quite understand all of the details about it because it implies multiple traitors in some PMs but i only see the one

I'm not entirely sure why but there is an (unused?) scum PM for Publican as well as a town PM for publican

I was the clerk and the misleading result i was informed of was presumably the SK's fake friendly neighbour.

obviously i dont expect 1:1 translation from the previous setup but these are some things i found notable. Particularly the moderator lying and mafia having very strong means to get around protection

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I still don't wreally know what Flavia means. I can see how it looks like a miller claim now that you point it out Titus

Idk exactly how to describe why I like 49, it just feels right. May be one of those cases when someone makes a post that's NAI but I just find it funny/enjoyable so I TR them for it. If so I don't mind because either way a smile was brought to my face, heehee :]

The thing with the votes on me is that I do think my page 1 wasn't super fantastic. Because of that it was weird for me to engage with 15 (this of itself may sound too self-aware lmao, and this remark too but whatever).

In a basic sense I think votes on me = bad because I'm confirmed townie in my own eyes, but I see justification for it via my page 1 so I'm in a murky state of "oh no, votes on me!" and "yeah but this isn't necessarily bad because there's reasonable basis for a vote this early" so I don't know how to react to it. Still need to derust a bit.

Also I took a look at the cancelled game's setup and now I'm scared... :0
My biggest note is the 9/4/1 ratio, combined with only 2 vts makes me think this is the type of game that gets won or lost on night actions. Should be interesting because that doesn't feel standard for this site. But yeah, a lot of scum roles is not a pretty sight. Hopefully, the third party role doesn't get to kill this time around because that swing potential is my worst nightmare. >_>

When you say you r page 1 wasn't fanatastic, what is it that you mean by that?

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Well if that were a traitor crumb i'd have missed it caause it looks like any other naked early game read

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Why'd my mech spec post draw your attention Frog it should be fairly NAI I broguth it up because i wasnt sure if everyobne knebw the other thread got a new post

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I'm saying it looks nothing like a crumb yeah. I'm probablyt getting in tyhe way of a reaction test or something

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Why'd my mech spec post draw your attention Frog it should be fairly NAI I broguth it up because i wasnt sure if everyobne knebw the other thread got a new post

Preliminary tweet town read.

Hmm. Yeah. I reread, and it looks like you were more interested in questioning flavia when herta outed his read on you, tweet. How come you didn't react when herta had a preliminary townread on you for posting "fairly NAI" content? It just seems a little dodgy..

Are you saying that I ought to have reacted? Why?

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Chill, you two seem a little on edge. I'm just asking questions.

I take it that MT and Herta both are vehement that Herta *did not* crumb traitor to MT and that Herta should *definitely* be ruled out as a traitor?

Why'd my mech spec post draw your attention Frog it should be fairly NAI I broguth it up because i wasnt sure if everyobne knebw the other thread got a new post

That's interesting!

So why do you think Herta townread you then if your only real post is NAI? Did you say anything when Herta townread you? Seems like odd timing for him doesn't it if you think you only wrote NAI schtuff?

Again, you're reaching here frog. You aren't saying why I ought to have reacted, other than weakly implying that since i view a post of mine as NAI, I therefore should find it questionable that someone finds something towny

That's like, level 0 thinking, and i feel like you don't really believe that

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Frog if u don't see how "You think ur posts r nai but someone townread you why didn't u engage" is a weak implication at best

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VOTE: Deas

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Frog if u don't see how "You think ur posts r nai but someone townread you why didn't u engage" is a weak implication at best

I'm getting "frustrated scum who was called out for reasons they know are dog shit" intuition pings from you.

Understandable, not far from the truth too

What gave you the idea to "preliminary town read" MT? Was it only based off their mech post?

EBWOP @ herta. I'm sorry I said your posts are dogshit, that was way too harsh and not accurate of what I actually think. I think your posts are consistently null or scummy and I'm struggling to come up with any reasons to rule you out as a suspect. I don't really believe your posts or play are of sub par quality and I'm sorry that I wrote what I did in #126.

Herta: Makes 1 TR without reasoning on page 3

Frog:

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2 miller-likes claimed so far, both in their first posts. i cant rlly think of anyway to setup spec this, there weren't any negative town utilities last game from what i can tell

Ok, since Flavia cleared up as best they're comfortable with, I'll make my announcement. The mod said there was a role that checked opposite of their alignment and that's it. So I'm assuming Flavia is a miller. If Flavia is not a miller, we have a godparent.

Mhm okay

When you say you r page 1 wasn't fanatastic, what is it that you mean by that?

This is my first time playing as myself in opening pages in a while (played an anonymous game recently but that felt different). I am struggling, I'm just not scum for it. 13 was disingenous because I made it from a want to post more than having something to say, and that's a way that struggle showed. That's partially why Frog's read on me is something I felt satisfied with despite yknow, its wrongness.

i like meuh's reaction to being voted by nym and my questioning

VOTE: Bell

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*ahem* I meant seeming like scum when I'm a power role.
People always get their wires crossed but I'm here for it.
I'm totally not a power role btw.
and I'm not useful.

Though yes, please share your reasons. *pokes MT*

it wasn't a vote backed by compelling reason :( Outside of i guess, you're usually proactive as town and i hadn't noticed you.

Why do you bring up looking lik e a power role?

*ahem* I meant seeming like scum when I'm a power role.
People always get their wires crossed but I'm here for it.
I'm totally not a power role btw.
and I'm not useful.

Though yes, please share your reasons. *pokes MT*

I wonder if this is the part where I go "oh yeah that makes sense, I've FoSed players who were power roles before" and then I start hard defending scum!Bell all day.

I feel like that would have to be the part where you were scum because in general, town you never does that. You just double down.

I'm kind of surprised Frog didn't find 156 suspicious or otherwise noteworthy and instead jumped to that specific scenario where he starts townreading you

Bell, why are you all weird? 156, 157, 161 don't look like Town posts.

Ah. That makes more sense

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VOTE: KT

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@Tweetie explain how you got from agreeing with Frogs’ read on Bell to voting Kitty?

~N

I skimmed Kitty's ISO and it's scummy feeling

I don't recall agreeing with Frog on Bell I voted Bell because he was absent

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Okay one day left.

So, it's typical for me to hold my tongue when I'm a PR which is why I usually get called out and run up whole song and dance. I was doing that "not going to comment" thing two days ago and then my brain dropped off the face of the earth because I'm playing wrath of the righteous and I am hyperfocusing on that on vacation. Every choice, where will it take me ten years from now? *gray hair*

To be blunt too many people are no shows for me to be confident in anything. 10 page large theme is extremely unusual. Flavia's entrance bothered me because they refused to answer a straight question, my vote never moved because I didn't think moving it would *do* anything. But keeping it there didn't do anything either. There's not much point moving my vote now either because it's too late to do legwork with a one day dead line.
Is flavia being replaced? Because I would like to kill one Flavia please.

Are you holding your tongue intentionally or are you struggling because of there only being 10 pages?

There's something off, I'm sure a lot of ppl have noticed. I can't put it to words. If the game is stagnant why do you feel like your play stands out as being power role like or otherwise suspicious? I feel like you have a lot of content, the weirdest thing about your play is how you've been reacting to pressure with "Now if I were a power role I'd do this but I'm not, in reality the game is just unusually stagnant" -- like what was the point of bringing up the power role stuff if you believed the game was quiet in general? There are probably tons of players with less posts than you

Hopefully that explains what's kind of weird.

@Andres any reads? @Tweetie, what’s your current Bell read?

~Nancy

I voted Bell for basically nothing originally. My current read is that there's something extremely peculiar about how he's playing in a moderately suspicious way

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Frogs case on andres seems like mostly that he's absent

VOTE: Bell

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VOTE: MariaR

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Took me a awhile to put the words to feelings. Or the other way around.

Meuh seems like transparently town to me

It feels like MariaR is manipulating Meuh's impression of her on prev page. Such is the game though I guess

Meuh are you claiming vig who shot Andres/MariaR?

A bit less cool than that, I babysat Andres/MariaR thinking it had a good chance to kill them.

At the time I thought Bell was a traitor so a kill on me was more appealing, paired with good old self-centeredness :cool:

this is too weird of a thought process for scum
and i liike these posts

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My take is that Herta is scum trying to get credit for Bell's flip by having his name on the wagon.

Amazing how that fits in perfectly with everything you already believe about the game!

[r]

Cold take: Herta hammers there regardless of alignment.

Meuh and Kitty are good guesses for now.

VOTE: Meuh

I think 265 was a large part of killing Bell
Like look at the shift towards limming Bell, I had a strong role in making it happen. My vote is what made Bell officially the leading wagon and removed momentum from Andres, which was the second biggest wagon

Oh yeah, Bell was a traitor, I didn't realize that

Also, I'm now realizing, so MariaR claimed BPV for nothing, no?

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VOTE: Meuh

PP is a villager, so is Titus. Frogs leader type posts bother me, but I don't have the desire nor drive to really go into that at the moment so I'm just gonna vote the very obvious and easier to kill wolf to me.

mmmm promise? ♡
I might not be town
or I could be.

Can't you be more angry or something? Your scumread is trying to push you isn't that totally opportunistic and wolfy? Push me.

Why would you talk like this after voting Meuh, it's what i would describe as behaviour speicifcally designed to interfere with Meuh's read of you primarily more than anything else. which is why i found it scummy.

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Has everyone else posted since the claim? I think Flavia hasn't

MariaR just claim the other lost Mason

MT hasn't

it not me

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Meuh is town or mayyyybe Government. The claim isn't really all that far-fetched

that being said the government had its own fakeclaim that it investigated as last game that came with its own role card. So town or government feels like a safe bet.

pedit: This meandering about on trying to read me seems genuine,, I don't think I've given you much to work with

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I thought furtive might be scum up until he did that. But I guess that also solves hijm

I don't particularly think Meuh is scum, maybe third party sure.

Bummer I'd sooner shoot Pooky, or Deas, or Enchant, or Pooky

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Titus' claim seems like town, I've been ignoring Penguin all game, and there's something about ActionDan that I liked

pedit: WHyt u visit me pookster

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Well not really ignoring Penguin just more so not making an attempt to reaD

Pooooooky

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ActionDan mentioned VCA is important to his overall reads, can you break down what that is you've been looking at AD?

The only VCA that matters in this game is between pages 10 and 11. I think it's a pretty good argument for DV not scum. He abandons 2 vote wagon on me to vote Andres up to 3. This is when at the time I was only bell voter.

That's the extent I've used VCA this game, though reading those pages reminds me that furtive and pp's responses to my questions were rather poor

This is a strong point. Great place to look at too

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Hi!

Currently working from home and will have a bit more time tonight. As a preview my townreads are close to Deas's post 144 (and you can add DeasV to them) with the caveat of Frogster/MT being lower, and Herta being in a category whose elim I would not cry over.

My preferred elimination today is bell by a longshot. And if not Furtive.

VOTE: Bell

Bad posts, Bad votes, and what essentially appears to be flailing / buying time with a PR claim with deniability. I do not understand why anyone is considering anything but this (Much less Meuh for example).

@ActionDan, could you elaborate on what you mean by deniability

155 and 156 is sufficient to claim plausible deniability that you outright claimed being a power role. That is my meaning. I interpret 239 to be more of the same. As I'm sure you're well aware, people have a natural inclination to ease up pressure after their target claims a PR because they hope it might be useful in the night or at least can pin down one's actions in utilizing it to aid in scumhunting the person with the PR. This happened with 4 votes on you so this was an attempt (successfully so) to disassemble the budding wagon. The consequence of which enabled you to avoid posting / scumhunting in thread until just now where you've shown up with a renewed vote on you. Likewise, I'm not impressed regarding the justification of the vote and current read on Flavia. In a low volume content game its a blessing they are such an easy townread. They have a join date of 11/1/2022 and clearly act like it. They are trying to interpret exact flavor/verbiage literally and have repeated it in multiple posts (see 57 , 59). Insistence they are scummy is willful ignorance of what is plain as day.

Furtive's scumread is based on the vote in post 116, when belies a lack of self awareness since if anything in this thread could be interpreted as a traitor crumb its 37 , and 40. Disclaimer: I think traitor hunting is useless blather to be avoided but if someone is seriously on that boat then I'd expect some introspection; a lack of it makes me think the vote on DeasVail was made with malign intent.

@Furtive, I don't hate your vote on MT but don't find it in any way compelling. Non substantive posting is a dime a dozen in this thread, is there any other reason we should "not ignore" your vote, why do you think MT vote on KT was suspicious?

I want to add I'm somewhat sympathetic to votes on Andres but very much joined this game to play with him not elim him. It's a pity he's not here, I'd like to sample his posting like a fine wine.

VOTE: Andres

Sorry Dan.

I don’t particularly think that Bell is town because on one hand Bell’s play indicates apathy towards the game, but then the desire to kill Flavia seems almost incongruent with that? Perhaps the most likely explanation is that the expressed desire to kill Flavia is somewhat exaggerated in the way that town do that sort of thing, but I will await further clarification on Bell’s role later in the game.

I find ActionDan very towny on this page

I like Deas' read of Bell. But I don't think the andres vote is quite clearing. On second thought though, I forgot how apathetic D1 was, plus Frog had just made a megapost on Andres. It was like the only wagon. Bell's wagon ended up countering it ofc but I don't disagree that Deas' vote on Andres is good

And yeah the day pretty much ends after Bells wagon comes up

And while we're here,

Spoiler: Bell on Flavia (Pooky)

I need that explicitly confirmed or denied. That is why I mentioned those three people. They all hadn't posted.

Role was pretty vague, but yes, I do assume I am a Miller. Or it takes less people to elim me.

Huh? Is your role pm written in hieroglyphics?

Flavia, explain.

Frog feels okay. Meuh Feels okay.

VOTE: Flavia
Womp.

Okay one day left.

So, it's typical for me to hold my tongue when I'm a PR which is why I usually get called out and run up whole song and dance. I was doing that "not going to comment" thing two days ago and then my brain dropped off the face of the earth because I'm playing wrath of the righteous and I am hyperfocusing on that on vacation. Every choice, where will it take me ten years from now? *gray hair*

To be blunt too many people are no shows for me to be confident in anything. 10 page large theme is extremely unusual. Flavia's entrance bothered me because they refused to answer a straight question, my vote never moved because I didn't think moving it would *do* anything. But keeping it there didn't do anything either. There's not much point moving my vote now either because it's too late to do legwork with a one day dead line.
Is flavia being replaced? Because I would like to kill one Flavia please.

At this point, yes.

You don't see how Flavia not being able to answer a question that is a clear yes or no is scummy

I don't think their idiosyncrasies explain it well. I don't know Flavia, but I'm less willing to let it pass lately.
I also, don't think it fits or doesn't fit. I never asked Titus due to the whole holding tongue thing but I might as well ask if RH said whether there was a *single* player with a role that wasn't one or the other or multiple.

UNVOTE:

for now

I think though that why does Flavia post what she does if she’s lying? Usually fake claims tend not to be made unprompted like that. Why does Flavia claim anything? It sounds to me that she gets read as delegate or something to invests? Is that right @Flavia?

The thing is last game Frogs got a similar thing in his role pm like Titus is here and I think it had to refer to furtive who had claimed miller in that. And I trust Titus, so if it weren’t for that, I might agree with you. But this response doesn’t sound wooden and I’m was suss on Kitty slot, so not sure If I trust AD’s vote on you or not.

~N

They didn't claim anything until titus pushed them. If anything they were claiming flavor. Their miller claim was/is decidedly different than how Furtive approached it.

I think this looks vaguely good for Pooky's slot although I'm not strong on that. Bell devotes an overwhelming majority of his game-relevant posts to suspect Flavia. I think it more likely that Bell would target someone he knew wasn't scum (esp cause andrees, a maingroup scum was also under heat). But it's wine

I kinda lost track of who scum's supposed to be, crossed everyone off. I think there's more plausibility for Deas to be a traitor than a groupscum (he wouldn't know Bell's alignment so that read could be genuine. Still bussed andrees though).

I don't know how to read Penguin really. I wouldn't be surprised if Penguin is the government agent. Or anything else IG

this is how I feel, roughly, town to scum":





Frog





ActionDan
furtive


Meuh





Pooky(flavia)
Titus



PenguinPower, DeasVail





Enchant(roden)

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what type of question is that

who would i visit other than you

I can't really fight that kind of logic

I thought you were supposed to be a miller

im basically conftown cuz im a loud visitor

No. The role doesn't say I'll come as mafia to investigators. It say...well, that people don't like me and believe I'm mafia...well, Delegate. That's all. So, I've assumed most probably I'm miller. Or a small possibility it means I can be hammered with less votes.

Idk exactly how to describe why I like 49, it just feels right. May be one of those cases when someone makes a post that's NAI but I just find it funny/enjoyable so I TR them for it. If so I don't mind because either way a smile was brought to my face, heehee :]

They are funny but I think totally NAI. Was funny and relaxed last game...and was third party. But the penguin gifs were sort of cute.

Yeah, checked. 100% Miller.

Im confused why did Flavia say this

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okay cool

I will now go into the reasons why I think Meuh is government.

I am the other Operator (technically it's possible that there's more but I very much doubt that is the case) and so I feel I have some insight into what a reaction to Maria's claim would be from someone who knew about the existence of operators.
Not only that, but the government would have even more knowledge that Maria's claim was made up because of what Maria said about 3p in 505.

See, when Maria claimed, I was preeeetty sure that they were a scum operator making stuff up, but there was an outside chance that the other operator was somebody else and this was Maria just making something else up.

BUT the government role knows about the operator thing, and they would have known if there was also some lost mason thing that they could listen in on. So, because there is no lost mason thing and what Maria was posting sounded very similar to the operator role, the government player would have 99% known that this was Maria just making stuff up.

This is where Meuh comes in. 521 reads to me as Meuh knowing based on her role that Maria is scum, but the actual reasoning provided does not really stack up. It reads to me more as the government player knowing that Maria is scum, but not being able to be completely honest about the reasons why.

If anyone is interested in any other operator details I'm happy to divulge, but Maria had reason to believe that I might be the other operator (I semi- revealed myself in my night 1 radio message) and the claim was probably to try and claim masons with me on the off-chance I was another traitor, OR banking on me potentially being an unclaimed member of the hotel.

Meuh has also weirdly not expressed suspicion of me despite me being mostly a non-presence.

But yeah, I think it makes more sense to eliminate Meuh than furtive here.

Other.. huh what now I didn't even see trhis

YOU'RE the counterpart to MariaR's role? Ohhhh shit I didn't even read it right

Another day has passed and with it, increases Town's streak of ousting the Delegation.
MariaR, the radio operator for the Delegation, departs to the wilderness.

MariaR,

Operator

, has been ousted to the wilderness.

Spoiler: Operator

Nobody ever listened to your radio network.
Hoping for a place where you would be heard, you joined a delegation of militants.
With your flair, you try to ensure that your delegation is above and beyond, leaving all at your feet.

Salutations, you are a

Operator

!

Role Abilities:

• Conclave
  : You share a conclave with … located here.
  
• Secret
  :
  [REDACTED]
  
  
• Execution
  : Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may kill a player.
  
• Radio
  : Each Night, you may use your radio to anonymously send a message of your choice (specified when you submit this action). The targets, who will always be any other Operators and the Government operative, can reply in the next Night.

Win Condition:

• You win if at least one
  Delegation
  member remains and all other players are deceased (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment or by posting in the

Delegation

conclave.

I kind of assumed that the other groupscum was an operator, I didn't really read what it did very closely. I see now.

If I visit them at night we become masons but the 3p can kill us.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

I'm not sure this reads as Meuh "knowing" Maria is scum based off of her role claim. I'm skeptical of that, it reads to me more like some technicality in how maybe the CPR Doctor was worded which implied the nonexistence of other killing abilities. But I can follow your reasoning

Maria's play definitely feels like she was trying to claim masons with a traitor operative, now that you give that context.

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ActionDan
furtive


Meuh





Pooky(flavia)
Titus



PenguinPower, DeasVail





Enchant(roden)

Was your read on Furtive always this high, and if not, can you explain your progression?

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At the time of N2 for all anyone in this thread knew, Meuh was a babysitter that only had the potential to kill. A bit of a harebrained plan to sac the NK to "confirm" a yet unclaimed fakeclaim that doesn't actually confirm it.

@ActionDan purely for gladiating Meuh. Not sure it makes sense from scum furtive in any way. He's getting himself killed for what. Unless maybe he's a traitor and it's an intentional play to save groupscum, which, I hadn't considered really.

That only really makes sense if main scum was in danger tho

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@ActionDan purely for gladiating Meuh. Not sure it makes sense from scum furtive in any way. He's getting himself killed for what. Unless maybe he's a traitor and it's an intentional play to save groupscum, which, I hadn't considered really.

Now is the time--rather than later--to think that stuff out

What exactly are you proposing is going on?

Why did you change your playstyle once Pooky replaced in?

Did it? i guiess it changes depending on how interested i am in the game, as well as independent factors like my mood.

But I know what you're referring to. If I recall, I got unusually invested in the game last night, I don't remember why. It did happen to coincide with Pooky rewpping in. That was the first time I went bsack and reviewed some of D1, because ActionDan pointed to page 10 (banger page)

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But yeah I thought Bell was just regular scum and I think the role I played there made me obv town + I was one of the more active players so scum would kill me

What made you feel you would be safe N2/N3?

I didn’t think I would be, but I knew that if I babysat N1, I’d at least be able to use a second ability on N2, so overall I’d get more use out of my role
Like to me it was more appealing to babysit N1 and shoot someone N2 than to shoot N1 and potentially just die

Okay that part makes sense.

I find Meuh's overestimation of how towny others see them to be something i do a lot as town. Also if Meuh were scum I feel like they realize Bell is a traitor and therefore don't have such a wide margin of error of how towny they're being perceived

pedit: Unfortunately I think furtive is at worst a traitor, I don''t think there's any reason a traitor couldn't be a duelist. Meuh I feel is at worst the government operative.

That being said I think both are probably town. It's hard to pick

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Oh, there's still the question of the missing scum night kill. Sort of funny timing that the night Meuh electrocutes Herta, scum don't make a kill.

It's probably worth it if somebody knows something about that to reveal it, considering we only need to find 1 groupscum. Considering no one has.. hm.....

Town probably would have revealed a roleblock or a protection. I'm kind of leaning towards Meuh purely because we can't explain that coincidence, I guess.

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If I had a gladiator i w

hmm

It is a shitty town ability so maybe it is pointless for town. Not sure that would matter to RH

pedcit: oh go off go off pookster

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You're probably town because you're scumreading me for no apparent reaosn

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Pooky do u know tha setup

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Doubling down for a shitty reason, also a town pooky move

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If furtive's win condition is to elim Meuh then we lose according to the government being antisocial

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I guess it is technically possible I just assumed the Government agernt was a SK but it doesn't explicitly sauy anything besides Antisocial (if it wins, all others lose)

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It would then follow that RH designed a gladiator eliminator who also wins and ends the game if we accidentally choose wrong 50/50.. yeah I don't think furtive is the governemnt agent

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Doubling down for a shitty reason, also a town pooky move

tweetie i dont feel the indignance from your eyes as you type away at your keyboad in disbelief that I could be possibly writing this ridiculous drivel which is a classic element of your town game

You're saying I would react the opposite way and be surprised that you're scumreading me?

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It would then follow that RH designed a gladiator eliminator who also wins and ends the game if we accidentally choose wrong 50/50.. yeah I don't think furtive is the governemnt agent

well no cuz furtive has to also find his target, he doesnt know who meuh is - he just has to yeet the role or w/e

I feel like assigning him to eliminate a random town JoAT specifically as his win condition is a bit odd

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She* talking about Meuh

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I don't get why furtive feels the need either

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Spoiler: furtive on the gladiate, meuh

Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

And you win if in last 2 players?

I can full claim whenever people want

(I'm town, dude)

Challenge Meuh

VOTE: Meuh

Those three Joat abilities don't make sense together, neither does just the one kill.

Hello no one can vote for anyone apart from me and Meuh

I'm a Duellist

Everyone has a power role it might be time for mass claim

Also I’m assuming that furtive’s thing is real and if so I don’t really see anything that could make me think meuh is

not

the option for today

That's what I hoped people would think

Then why did you duel me? :lol:

I wanted to use my ability and you were my biggest scumread

I'm clearly not maf so either you kill a townie or you kill a 3p that doesn't need to die

Why are you clearly not maf? :lol:

Also I killed Herta last night and that's a nonsensical kill for maf to make

This claim is part of what made me duel you, it seems like you could be gambiting by killing a scumread player to help your claim, as the fact there was only 1 kill is still unexplained

Is furtive usually impulsive?

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler: furtive on the gladiate, meuh

Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

And you win if in last 2 players?

I can full claim whenever people want

(I'm town, dude)

Challenge Meuh

VOTE: Meuh

Those three Joat abilities don't make sense together, neither does just the one kill.

Hello no one can vote for anyone apart from me and Meuh

I'm a Duellist

Everyone has a power role it might be time for mass claim

Also I’m assuming that furtive’s thing is real and if so I don’t really see anything that could make me think meuh is

not

the option for today

That's what I hoped people would think

Then why did you duel me? :lol:

I wanted to use my ability and you were my biggest scumread

I'm clearly not maf so either you kill a townie or you kill a 3p that doesn't need to die

Why are you clearly not maf? :lol:

Also I killed Herta last night and that's a nonsensical kill for maf to make

This claim is part of what made me duel you, it seems like you could be gambiting by killing a scumread player to help your claim, as the fact there was only 1 kill is still unexplained

Is furtive usually impulsive?

Like on the one hand it kinda comes across like Meuh felt like a slam dunk to furtive, and (for whatever reason), he just *had* to use his ability

But I could see the claiming stuff being feigned in a sort of rushed attempt to get to the gladiator stuff so he'd be able to use the ability (for whatever nefarious purpose)

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Meuh

pedit: /shrug I can see town players using the gladiator's ability, and it does happen plenty

pedit pedit: So furtive, would it more or less be correct to say that you used the ability with the intention of increasing the probability that Meuh gets eliminated?

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler: furtive on the gladiate, meuh

Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

And you win if in last 2 players?

I can full claim whenever people want

(I'm town, dude)

Challenge Meuh

VOTE: Meuh

Those three Joat abilities don't make sense together, neither does just the one kill.

Hello no one can vote for anyone apart from me and Meuh

I'm a Duellist

Everyone has a power role it might be time for mass claim

Also I’m assuming that furtive’s thing is real and if so I don’t really see anything that could make me think meuh is

not

the option for today

That's what I hoped people would think

Then why did you duel me? :lol:

I wanted to use my ability and you were my biggest scumread

I'm clearly not maf so either you kill a townie or you kill a 3p that doesn't need to die

Why are you clearly not maf? :lol:

Also I killed Herta last night and that's a nonsensical kill for maf to make

This claim is part of what made me duel you, it seems like you could be gambiting by killing a scumread player to help your claim, as the fact there was only 1 kill is still unexplained

Is furtive usually impulsive?

Yes

viewtopic.php?p=13485051#p13485051

Furtive is introverted, creative, conscientious-less, a mix of aggreeable and disagreeable and a mix of high and low neuroticism. The low conscientiousness ("need a push to get started = 5") and aspects of high neuroticism ("easily resist temptations = 5") are good predictors for impulsivity.

Thank you lol fantastic reference

"Easily resist temptations" = 1

Pooky, it's kind of hard to answer your question, because furtive wasn't a gladiator in those other games, so furtive would have to use his voice rather than a gladiator shot in order to strongarm his opinion. Which is a totally different thing

[Morning Tweet]

Pooky, it's kind of hard to answer your question, because furtive wasn't a gladiator in those other games, so furtive would have to use his voice rather than a gladiator shot in order to strongarm his opinion. Which is a totally different thing

yea but my mental model of how furtive!town plays is

(1) vote scum
(2) dont die
(3) stay in the background

not waving a sword screaming yo we need to kill meuh

right but like if you are GIVEN the sword and you start faintly hearing the whispers in the back of your head "do it do it do it do it"

[Morning Tweet]

at AD, Meuh's going to flip town, what comes next is probably uhhhh voting uhh I like where I started. I think Penguin/Deasvail/Enchant is where I start at. Even though I think Penguin and Deas both have reasons to be town. It's tricky finding scum this early with so many scum down. Suffering from success really

pedit: if Furtive is a third party governemtt eliminator condemner cop bla bla bla i will eat my sock

[Morning Tweet]

dude is not a town leader type player

hes like b-team support who tries not to get mis-elimmed

theres no way he randomly decides he's suddenly tom cruise in mission impossible just cuz his role pm says so

Why are you characterising me in this way? Which games is it based on? I'm not triggered per se, but it's objectively insulting. Not a single user on this site spends their games 'trying not to get mislimmed'

how is this objectively insulting, lots of people dont like to be mis-eliminated

it comes across like you're saying he spends his time solely trying to avoid getting miseliminated, and can't do anything else due to limbaity nature or something or other . I dont think that's what you meant but i can see how it comes across that wasy

[Morning Tweet]

As for the 3p read, it was mech and Flavia being missing. Forgot Flavia is now Pooky.

As in, the miller claim seems like it would come from government? What about the loud visiting? Why would government have such negative util

[Morning Tweet]

Day 1 Count VI

Andresvmb (3) - Frogsterking, Meuh, DeasVail
ActionDan (1) - Morning Tweet
Herta (1) - Titus
Meuh (1) - PenguinPower
Flavia (1) - Bell
Frogsterking (1) - Roden
furtiveglance (1) - Andresvmb
Morning Tweet (1) - furtiveglance
Bell (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- Flavia N.Y. M Herta

Notes

• Replacing Roden due to inactivity.
  
• Prodding Flavia for the second time. Prodding Andresvmb.
  
• RH has decided to add 12 hours to the deadline. This has been reflected in the countdown. It is possible RH will add more time in response to the replacement.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 14 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-12-31 22:56:00).

Looking at this vc frog andres town dv town lean furtiveglance lean town

i bear bad news about andres

[Morning Tweet]

Oh RIP me
You guys got this still!! I believe in you all

(`･ω･´)ゞ

[Morning Tweet]

So ActionDan or Enchant is scum every time no?

But can the government agent win through some bs or other?

You win if you are remaining when all opposing factions to your final target excluding yourself have exited the community.

So, if we eliminate scum and that scum is the final scum, the government wins its condition (eliminate scum) which then causes the town to lose despite eliming scum? Assuming that the government agent simply targetted a town player last night.

[Morning Tweet]

Enchant shuld claim

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Titus

[Morning Tweet]

I would be a patron

[Morning Tweet]

Guess the balancing factor was making us all vanilla in the hood. Still felt quite strong

[Morning Tweet]

Hotel trivago tooo strong

[Morning Tweet]

That was fun though, thanks for modding RH and gg every1