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PP your presence is requested....

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VOTE: meuh

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thief

i knew i had the correct vote

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Penguin do you have any reads? I recall you having good intuition in low info gamestates.

really? i'm not sure where you gathered that from. i'm usually crap with reads until later in the game.

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but since you believe that

your vote is in the right place currently.

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The SK could fake confirm themselves as town or mafia to people of their choosing

And change their target and thus win condition.

Oh hi - that was me

Wasn't really an SK since there was no kill.

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They are funny but I think totally NAI.

Correct!

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VOTE: herta

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@Mod: Extension, Holiday season doesn't count.
@Mod: Prod people please I'm not Bah humbug enough to request it on christmas. But I sure am the day after.

Nah. You’re scroogier than scrooge.

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VOTE: meuh

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Prodding Nonexistent Hydra

Nym replaced nonexistent hydra...that hydra is now...nonexistent...in the game

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wait is bell on flavia or meuh?

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oh boo...flavia

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I would agree going against Flavia is a bizarre choice for scum. Still I try not to 2nd guess by pointing out refuge in audacity is a thing.

@PP why is your vote on Meuh

votecount was wrong so I thought I was making equal wagons but then there was no other wagon that would have been competing so I left it

why are you curious about my vote specifically?

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would be nice to get a votecount prior to eod tbh...

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VOTE: bell

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The votecount was incorrect in 220 when I voted. T-bone sneak edited because he's a listmod and it doesn't show that he did.

lol to everything else you wrote.

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okay - furtive can be town

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Would be super cool if the vanity voters showed up and started to consolidate.

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wut?

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Bell

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Why

Why do you care?

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Thanks for reminding me that frogster needs to eat his laundered socks.

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uh...deadline is waaaaay before then

just vote bell

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i have a strong feeling we're going to end up with a no elim at this point

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poor enchant

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Hey man don't make me feel bad for kneecapping enchant.

Can't help how you feel from your actions...but the guilt is evident.

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VOTE: Meuh

PP is a villager, so is Titus. Frogs leader type posts bother me, but I don't have the desire nor drive to really go into that at the moment so I'm just gonna vote the very obvious and easier to kill wolf to me.

Hmm…I was waiting on mod clarification but this somewhat clears it up for me.

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Well - never mind then. Back to waiting.

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I wanna know who sent me alcohol last night.

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I wanna know who sent me alcohol last night.

true - but this was 100% serious.

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Why'd you give me alcohol, ActionDan?

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Why'd you give me alcohol, ActionDan?

Tis the holiday season after all, please enjoy your alcohol

yeah - that doesn't answer my question. is it a fruit vendor thing?

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okay - you're an uncooperative loud fruit vendor. got it.

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It's a neighborhood that has powers.

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Herta wouldn't have known it until today.

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If you are part of hotel PP did Frog claim I visited you before reveal in thread?

It's announced in the Hotel thread who visited who for all to see.

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Well - that's a lie.

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Hard clear as in if I am not conf town I get exe'd.

I am claiming to vist Deas.

Well - that's a lie.

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As in, did someone say something back? Yes

Then the other person with my role can claim and this can be solved with a single night action.

Why couldn't this be resolved now since they are aware and said something back...unless you are suggesting you will be publically announced as masons I don't see what waiting gets us...

Especially since from everything I know to be true, you are lying.

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Sure - and they can do that now. Pretty sure we have time though a votecount would be great.

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Day 2 Unofficial Votecount

MariaR (5) - Herta, Morning Tweet, Frogsterking, Meuh, Titus
Meuh (2) - MariaR, furtiveglance

Not Voting

- DeasVail, Flavia, PenguinPower, Enchant, ActionDan

Notes

• With 12 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2023-01-09 17:05:00).

So effectively E-1 right now.

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Has everyone else posted since the claim? I think Flavia hasn't

MariaR just claim the other lost Mason

MT hasn't

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the cool kids and herta

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the cool kids and herta

Then why are you in it?

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fine...as a consolation prize for repping into a scum slot you can have that one.

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i already got my alcohol.

good luck convincing me.

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VOTE: Maria

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I mean Meuh could always be scum floating on a vig claim but that's not an endgame strategy so...

Would mean 3p is trying to win with scum if my old role is any indication though I had the ability to switch and my old role may not be an indication.

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Like you protect people, so if you were on herta as it seemed you might be then....

uhhh

Herta dying tonight = good, right?

Pew pew pow

Thought we'd get a scum flip but I can just blame you guys

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sounds 3pish

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Either way Meuh is scum or 3rd Party for the AtE in #588

Incongruent with Town who just wasted a vig shot or whatever BS she's claiming

we're on the same wavelength

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@frog/pp anyone visit in hotel aside from me and meuh?

yes

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Wouldn't call that a waste of a vig. There's still a lot of chaff in the game

it was a failed vig though

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stealing my pagetop by 11 seconds is punishable by death anyway

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that's fine

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Fwiw scum can't have also killed Herta. The power I used is this: I can protect a player, but if said player isn't targeted by a kill, I kill them instead.
Hence the protective/killing aspect of my role, and why I decided to use my power as a vig shot.

My role has slight implications that my role and the mafia factional kill are the only kills so I'm not tempted to believe this.

So, assuming you are telling the truth, then there is a 3p that targeted Maria. At this point, you had Maria as scum so care to explain the thought process here?

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You stated in 521 that you thought your role meant there was only a killing role between you and scum; however, you targeted Maria N1 and she didn't die so a killing role had to have targeted her for you not to kill her. When you made 521, you thought Maria was scum (I mean, I assume...you were voting there) meaning there had to have been another killing role ala 3rd party...

p-edit

you're claiming babysitter and cpr doc?

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They aren't one shot, they are one per night...just want to be clear

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just say you're a fucking joat then...

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pooky come save me!

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that being said the government had its own fakeclaim that it investigated as last game that came with its own role card. So town or government feels like a safe bet.

It had a fakeclaim that, if claimed or investigated as is, would have been proven false because of its wincon. You know what it did have? Three abilities.

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Enchant your ISO paired with Roden's is a really bad look

Who is roden

Your better half.

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yeah - i know, it was my role

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Course mine was Zealot, not idealogue due to an error.

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i prefer not to wallow tyvm

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You think anything and everything that is potentially suspect about meuh is weaksauce so idrc about your tunnelvision.

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no

you wanna finish?

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What about Deas and MT?

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Maybe do?

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VOTE: meuh[/VOTE:

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Blah

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VOTE: meuh

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Frog





ActionDan
furtive


Meuh





Pooky(flavia)
Titus



PenguinPower, DeasVail





Enchant(roden)

You and your hotel counterpart should meet and discuss because the dissonance is amazing.

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That's pretty embarrassing... you should switch your vote just for that

VOTE: Furtive

somewhat tempted tbh - but I have to be true to my heart.

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im p convinced the last scumbag is just roden/enchant[for the memes] and i feel no urge to solve for 3p cuz i dun even know if we have to elim the 3p to win

If it's anything like the last role, it's important to yeet 3rd party before yeeting scum.

Solitudinarian: If you win the community, every other player will lose.

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im p convinced the last scumbag is just roden/enchant[for the memes]

not funny meme

What about Deas and MT?

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we could yeet all the scum and still lose ? sounds like bad game design

If the 3rd party achieves their wincon in doing so, yeah. Like, last game if I had target town and town yeeted all scum, I would have won and town would have lost unless they yeeted me first.

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Not sure if it's the same in this redesign, but it's a possibility.

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3p stealing the win would just be sad

i mean - that's why we yeet you today and then don't have to worry about it

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tbf the more that I think about it the more that pooky or AD's role makes sense as 3rd part so I'm waffling but it's not like I have a choice.

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you know that i can never read you correctly bearfriend, so I'll go with that until frog tells me otherwise.

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VOTE: No Lim

What about Deas and MT?

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you're showing you have too much information e.g. information an uninformed player would not have

talk to me more about MT and Deas

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furtive can be town

pooky can be pooky

there have been lots of words

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Though I think I might've said Penguin was 3p in hood? Both of them kind of make sense as that to me

you said me

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Given two nightkills have been stopped, I think it's time for me to out my ability.

Each night I target someone. Anyone who visits that target is told they are registered. If I visit scum, I am immune to all town or 3p actions. If I visit town or 3p, I am immune to all scum actions. I believe scum have tried to kill me twice and failed twice.

N1 I visited NYM
N2 and N3 I visited Frog.

That is literally my old 3rd party role...

Privilege: You are immune to all actions performed by a player not aligned with your target.

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"part of my"

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If Titus is 3p and has same wincon we lose doing that

+1

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So ActionDan or Enchant is scum every time no?

But can the government agent win through some bs or other?

You win if you are remaining when all opposing factions to your final target excluding yourself have exited the community.

So, if we eliminate scum and that scum is the final scum, the government wins its condition (eliminate scum) which then causes the town to lose despite eliming scum? Assuming that the government agent simply targetted a town player last night.

If we assume same wincon as last time, correct.

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So ActionDan or Enchant is scum every time no?

There are many possibilities, of widely varying likelihood.

1. Enchant is scum and I stopped kill.
2. Enchant is town and not enchant scum shot Titus.

Wait. That's only 2.

You decide which is more likely.

Option 3, you're lying scum.

VOTE: PenguinPower

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gotta earn that power

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i'm a patron

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The egregious flaws in this setup were 3rd party wincon not announced being so easy to achieve + Town close to Omniwatcher

How i am supposed to kill hotel trivagos? Of course by losing member everytime we do so. Or mislimming them. Somehow.

I fake claimed my role.

How so? We kept getting results in the PT.

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N.Y. M can decide if they want their hydra PT released.
Meanwhile, I'm going to release the Government, Hotel and Delegation PTs as well as all-non player-requested PTs from the original Community.

Links?

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you and your fancy float right tags...