LOST (Game Over)

[Bell]

Hi BB, are you just gunna coast through this game and we're going to have to pull the mystery lever on you at some point or what?

Gonna coast until I find something to grab on to...yeah.

373 pages, 3 flips.
You need to trade those flippers out for hands.

yeah - 373 pages of which i've read a 1/10th of (and probably only 1/10th is of actual use) and a gladiated d1 flip....ooooh - so much info.

This first bit is fair enough.
The argument that the gladiate was low info an there's not much to be gained from how everyone reacted to it, I don't really agree with. There should be some pretty AI reactions to it.

[Bell]

There should be some pretty AI reactions to it.

Should be or are? If there are, point them out to me so I can grab on to something.

Taly is town.
Taly isn't town.

Do scum:
Pretend to solve about which one is more likely?
Ignore it?
Switch votes every five seconds.
Argue about who to lim a lot.
Sit on one.
Say that "i just want this day to be over with?"
Throw a tantrum?
Pretend they died at their computers?

[Bell]

Will you be able to talk to Dunn and Frog on day 3?

Potentially one of them. I only have one more shot.

There some reason you didn't find Mala's announcement weird or anything? They claimed they could talk to dead people and only really retracted it a lot later.

[Bell]

Why did you just claim anyway?

[Bell]

Ah Luke asked. Would rather you had used it both times first. Before saying anything it would have made you easier to read but oh well.

[Bell]

This was early game before the thread got super crazy. But okay.

[Bell]

Mathblade

[Bell]

I think it has more to do with this town than it has to do with Mathblade.
Whatever people want out of mafia they aren't getting so they won't eliminate anyone until they get whatever it is.

[Bell]

C&G is off, but I can smell the fake role posturing from here.
If they're actually just neighbor VT here they're playing exceptionally badly as either alignment.
I'll leave a 0 star review on their yelp page.

[Bell]

C&G is off, but I can smell the fake role posturing from here.
If they're actually just neighbor VT here they're playing exceptionally badly as either alignment.
I'll leave a 0 star review on their yelp page.

What if we are telling the truth but forgot certain details?
It's not impossible.
-Guanine

You could play the game straight and try solving instead of this and still not be in danger of dying for the next 2 or 3 game days.
Your plan is bad.

[Bell]

Unless your goal is to do as little as possible as scum.
In which case, well done.

[Bell]

Math’s flipping town because I swear to god I will never ever lead a successful wagon on scum early game again it is a curse and it will never ever break.

Okay. My negativity is exorcised.
*waits*

[Bell]

This is during a game of mafia.

[Bell]

whatever, y'all are too far up your own asses to actually give me any actual respect.

~GE

This is during a game of mafia.

If he wants to call me scum, more power to him.

But that is not what he is doing.

Not what I meant. We're supposed to be a group of people getting together to try to fool one another or try to figure out who is lying for fun.
All of us know the general definition of bullying here, it's targeted, repeated, unwelcome harassment.
I don't think that happened here.

[Bell]

Gg I had fun. Though yes it was super frustrating at times, but that’s definitely part of the typical mafia experience. Thanks for the game Peta, STD.

[Bell]

Gg I had fun. Though yes it was super frustrating at times, but that’s definitely part of the typical mafia experience. Thanks for the game Peta, STD.

were u happy when u died

did anyone even ever figured out why u died

I wanna know why bell died?

Was it because of his Taly scum read?

in scumchat we never specified a reason i just came out of nowhere with "bell" and gamma and bella thought it would work so we did that.

i honestly said it as a joke, but also bcuz i thought it was one of the most low info kills
DEADASS WOULDVE BEEN IF SOMEONE ELSE CARRIED THE KILL

Good to know the scum team was as confused as I was on why I was killed.

[Bell]

No redactions on notes PT. Or anywhere else.

[Bell]

@Johnny. I want to thank you for your kindness towards me. I know I repaid you by miseliming you. :/

I’m just glad I stuck to my guns on Noraa

and tough lesson learned: never again base a read on what you think someone would/would not do as a “friend”, although it has been somewhat reliable in the past. \_0_/

I'm glad you changed your mind on the Taly slot.

[Bell]

I wonder if people knew my main would that change player’s opinions on me?

I'm not gunna blacklist you, I've tolerated this before. I'm okay with accepting the behavior in non-newbie games but own opinion isn't even one about ego. it's simply pointing out that mathematically it wasn't a good play. I understand you value performance and quality of play and I engaged you from the perspective of someone concerned with that. You stated you outted scum after the play (Nancy and Noraa?) but as mentioned, it was just a subjective opinion based off of some assumptions which turned out to be wrong. Which makes sense to me, since there isn't much like evidence to support the assumptions. If your goal is to be a good player, level-headed play and objectively evaluating the risk you take on with each action or decision you make, seems like a good approach to me. I could be wrong though. I'm not a very good mafia player myself.

[Bell]

It's not a hard math problem.
It's not basic, but like. It's not rocket science either.

[Bell]

oh, you guys are talking about the best bird thing.
I keep writing something that can be chalked up to "I hope they said it from an emotional place and aren't going to act on that"
even though it's tricky to enforce.

Like, imagine you were looking forward to a D&D game and the DM really doesn't like you so they go out of their way to make your experience miserable.
Don't do that to others, golden rule, treat others how you want to be treated, be nice to people, understand that everybody has their own histories and experiences etc, etc.

[Bell]

@Bell

Spoiler:

what are players you definitively townread?

Probably

CSF, Dwlee, Roden. Luke

.

Nancy

just below.

pooky

below that. Currently. But I tend to change on a dime with that one.

Klick

far below that but still in town read land. Sort of.

I think it would be worthwhile to try to sort

PD

. Right now I lean town based on approach but it’s hard to sort the hyper competitive ones.

100% accurate day 1 town reads.

Much impressed.

2 of those were claimed masons. lol

[Bell]

if Taly had been hammered with Bell's 6842

Also @bell, you did an accidental hammer this game

I did it again.

[Bell]

I do agree that this set up was town sided. The scum team needed more power or the town needed less.

@Nancy: I mean for every correct statement I made, I made at least two wrong statements. It's hard to decipher which takes are correct and which ones aren't. I don't really think trusting or placing faith in someone is a good idea in a game of deception tho

[Bell]

Both Taly and I summarized our PT in thread tho.

[Bell]

Would've been a treat to townside with you

Bell

Probably not tbh. I leave hydra partners and neighbors in the cold.