Datisi's Café [game over!]

[Ircher]

VOTE: Ausuka

[Ircher]

As long as we achieve 1,275 points out of 1,700 points each day, we will be fine. If mastina is setting hers to 0%, then we need to average 80 points per player to avoid the extra night kills.

[Ircher]

I think we should end the day at 50 pages.

[Ircher]

guess

Just a confident guess. 4 is pretty typical for a game of this size.
VOTE: Vivax

I've read very little since like page 3, but Vivax is sticking out like a sore thumb.

[Ircher]

Isn't Ircher yume?

Here's an example. Vivax is making these theories that 1) have no basis in reality and 2) serve no purpose in reading me or the rest of the game.

[Ircher]

Well, because we were on course for an Ircher lim for presumably good reason, and when I checked in I saw a bunch of strange stuff, and the strangest one was him posting a list with mostly reasonable people at the bottom, imho.

This was the other post I saw. Again, not at all based in reality.

[Ircher]

I just backread the last 5 pages. Leaning towards petapan and Uncrowned town. Not sure on everyone else.

[Ircher]

Isn't Ircher yume?

Here's an example. Vivax is making these theories that 1) have no basis in reality and 2) serve no purpose in reading me or the rest of the game.

i don't really think this is scummy for vivax tbhs

Okay, why not?

[Ircher]

I'm not convinced.

[Ircher]

I read through mastina's ISO. Incredibly wrong reads as always.

[Ircher]

I should clarify: incredibly bad D1 reads as always. Her reads are better much later in the game.

[Ircher]

Her read on me, and that's all that really matters.

[Ircher]

You said reads plural and indicated that you reached this conclusion after reading her entire iso rather than just her stance on you

Semantics, semantics.

I did read her ISO in the sense I glanced through all the posts. Anyway, Roden is town. Vivax is scum.

[Ircher]

Fwiw, mastina is likely town despite the reads. I'm just saying her accuracy is low as is typical for her D1 despite her confidence.

[Ircher]

You literally did just come in and say

"Mastina's reads are bad!"
"Well actually I don't mean all of her reads, just her read on me."

Did you know you have a wagon with like 9 people on it and a bunch of the people who aren't on it also think you're probably scum

No, I haven't read a page with a vote count on it.

[Ircher]

I'm fine with that.

[Ircher]

Again, it's not shade. It's facts. mastina's reads day 1 are poor. Period. Everyone should know that given how confident she expresses them.

[Ircher]

Even paragons get it wrong at times.

[Ircher]

vote count 1.06

with 21 votes in play, it takes 11 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-09-29 01:45:00).

firing

Ircher [9]:

mastina, Lukewarm, Titus, furtiveglance, Ausuka, RCEnigma, Klick, BlueBloodedToffee, Vivax

Ydrasse [4]:

Roden, Andresvmb, PenguinPower, Nero Cain

Titus [3]:

petapan, Malakittens, fireisredsir

petapan [1]:

Something_Smart

Vivax [1]:

Ircher

Roden [1]:

Uncrowned

Malakittens [1]:

jjh927

not voting [1]:

Ydrasse

mod notes

~ i am using a vote counter, let me know if there are any mistakes.
~ this is a mod note.

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VOTE: Ydrasse

[Ircher]

I am very surprised by the FoSes on me that agree with my pushes on Ircher and SS. There has to be scum in there.

Why the 1v1 on us? If I were a gambler (which I'm not), I would wager that we're both in fact town.

I like Nero for Town. Which is a good thing because fighting Scum!Nero is a horrible experience.

I agree. Nero is town.

[Ircher]

Considering I haven't expressed a town read (or a scum read) there, no.

[Ircher]

I haven't read much from Titus. I see she is voting me, so that's minus points. I also don't get why she thinks there is guaranteed one scum between Smart and I. Despite that, given the sample size of evidence, I do not wish to give a conclusive read at this time.

[Ircher]

I'm not here to get town reads. I'm here for the *experience*.

[Ircher]

Okay, but if Titus voting you is "minus points" then do you expect that reasonable town players would not vote you here?

I think some would and some wouldn't. Titus is earlier on the wagon when I had less content.

[Ircher]

Okay, but if Titus voting you is "minus points" then do you expect that reasonable town players would not vote you here?

I think some would and some wouldn't.

Titus is earlier on the wagon when I had less content.

I left out the second part because I think it is implicit from the minus points comments. Namely, no, I lean towards less likely to have a viable reason.

[Ircher]

That would equally apply to mastina and Lukewarm for the record (though I give mastina a D1-3 pass because she tends to be pretty obvious scum after a while, so it's better to wait.)

[Ircher]

Don't worry, Vivax is just scum.

[Ircher]

Wit that said, Ircher is the type of scum that’s willing to take a bullet for a partner. So I don’t think Titus’ argument that Irchers wagon sprung up to divert from someone else is merit-less.

No, it is meritless because there was no wagon to divert from.

[Ircher]

Wit that said, Ircher is the type of scum that’s willing to take a bullet for a partner. So I don’t think Titus’ argument that Irchers wagon sprung up to divert from someone else is merit-less.

You think Ircher deliberately baited a wagon on himself? How?

No, I think Ircher meant to push attention somewhere else and it backfired. It wouldn’t make sense to just bait a wagon on himself.

This is nonsense. 1) I didn't bait a wagon on myself at all. I got wagoned for a perceived scum slip. 2) I was the first wagon of the game. There was nothing for me to distract from.

[Ircher]

petapan - Town
Ausuka - Town
Malakittens - Null
Nero Cain - Town
PenguinPower - Town
Lukewarm - Town
furtiveglance - Town
Roden - Town
Titus - Scum
Uncrowned - Town
Vivax - Scum
Andresvmb - Town
mastina - Town
jjh927 - Town
Ircher - Town
RCEnigma - Scum
BlueBloodedToffee - Null
Klick - Null
Something_Smart - Town
Ydrasse - Null
fireisredsir - Town

These are my reads.

[Ircher]

I am very surprised by the FoSes on me that agree with my pushes on Ircher and SS. There has to be scum in there.

Why the 1v1 on us? If I were a gambler (which I'm not), I would wager that we're both in fact town.

Could you put into your own words why you think Titus is town, Ircher

Considering I haven't expressed a town read (or a scum read) there, no.

whip lash

I feel like I need to clarify my 795 as it seems both you and jjh misinterpreted when reading it. The "us" there is referring to Smart and myself, not to Titus.

[Ircher]

Back to Vivax I go.
VOTE: Vivax

[Ircher]

you should claim ircher

I'm a social media influencer. I am able to post public messages through the moderator using 20% productivity points.

[Ircher]

It's a night action.

[Ircher]

The message is anonymous and confirmed not to have come from the moderator. Of course, it's not really anonymous anymore now that I've claimed.

[Ircher]

petapan - Town
Ausuka - Town
Malakittens - Town
Nero Cain - Town
PenguinPower - Town
Lukewarm - Town
furtiveglance - Town
Roden - Town
Titus - Scum
Uncrowned - Town
Vivax - Scum
Andresvmb - Town
mastina - Town
jjh927 - Town
Ircher - Town
RCEnigma - Scum
BlueBloodedToffee - Scum
Klick - Town
Something_Smart - Town
Ydrasse - Town
fireisredsir - Town

[Ircher]

The message is anonymous and confirmed not to have come from the moderator. Of course, it's not really anonymous anymore now that I've claimed.

It doesn't reveal your alignment then. I feel like if that's the case, it has literally zero value. On mafia.gg there's a Crier which is confirmed to be town.

I wasn't planning on using it, but it has situational value depending on the setup.

[Ircher]

It's cost benefit analysis. We need to average 75-80% productivity. If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

[Ircher]

The message is anonymous and confirmed not to have come from the moderator. Of course, it's not really anonymous anymore now that I've claimed.

It doesn't reveal your alignment then. I feel like if that's the case, it has literally zero value. On mafia.gg there's a Crier which is confirmed to be town.

I wasn't planning on using it, but it has situational value depending on the setup.

You think it has no value in this setup, and hadn't planned to use it. Did you not think about using it as a basis for a claim?

It's cost benefit analysis. We need to average 75-80% productivity. If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

Yeah, it also doesn't prove a claim.

I'm not sure what you're driving at here. You seem to be agreeing with me yet simultaneously implying that my planned course of action was bad.

[Ircher]

Is Social Media Influencer considered positively in today's society? I don't think it is, can definitely see Datisi giving mafia this flavour. But can also see them giving it to town.

I highly doubt flavor is based on societal connotations.

[Ircher]

Is Social Media Influencer considered positively in today's society? I don't think it is, can definitely see Datisi giving mafia this flavour. But can also see them giving it to town.

I highly doubt flavor+alignment pairings are based on societal connotations.

EBWOP

[Ircher]

What is your point?

pedit: @Vivax.

[Ircher]

I lowkey suspect Ircher has scumgame burnout and didn't even really want to try.

I'm just going to point out that this was not the case.

Anyway, gg town. Y'all deserved to win.