Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #27 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:18 am

Please note that I'm going out of town tomorrow and I'll only be back on the Oct 11. Try to lynch scum while I'm not distracting you.

vote:veerus

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #182 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:41 am

Hi I'm back from vacation, will post tomorrow.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #227 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:21 pm

vote: Cybele

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #248 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:39 am

unvote, vote: Cybele

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #249 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:42 am

Mind you, after reading the posts intervening between my vote yesterday, and my vote today, Kinetic's post is alarming.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #295 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:31 am

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

unvote, vote: Kinetic

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #518 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:06 am

Yikes! I keep forgetting I'm in this game. I'm going to have to treat it as a replacement... hold on. Let me find you the scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #522 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:34 am

OK I don't think Kinetic is scum anymore. His behavior reminds me of what I observed in an old NY game where he was town.

unvote

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #529 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:47 pm

dybeck wrote:I'm just not big on his 'plan'.

That's a natural reaction to being bossed around, has nothing to do with alignment.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #530 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:52 pm

VisMaior wrote:And noch:
Tarhalindur wrote:
Kinetic is receiving an Official Warning for Jackassery (trying to use the structure of the role PM to gain an advantage) due to his questions about the exact wording of win conditions. He's extremely lucky that I'm not modkilling him on the spot. - Tar
Ehh?Does this confirms Kinetics townness or what?

Excellent point. Kinetic is henceforth mod-confirmed to be a townie on account of the wording "trying to use the structure of the role PM to gain an advantage" - there would be no advantage if he were scum. The mod, who knows this to be a fact, is essentially confirming that Kinetic is in fact scumhunting. Thus he must be a townie.

Now we can look back and see which scumbags are still voting for him.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #531 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:53 pm

armlx wrote:
Ehh?Does this confirms Kinetics townness or what?
No, not given the fact the information he was asking about was posted in thread.

Well hullow, scumbag.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #532 (isolation #11) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:14 pm

Kinetic wrote:
dybeck wrote:And you definitely have some way of telling truth from lies? Because presumably everybody, scum or not, is just going to say 'Army of Light'?
I can honestly say that anyone who states Army of Light is lying scum.

Very interesting. How can anyone not vote dybeck after that?

unvote, vote: dybeck

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #543 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:57 pm

Kinetic is confirmed, and forbiddenlight pretty much confirmed as well.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #605 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:57 am

Last time there was a 'survivor' claim in a game I was in, that player was scum. Oh, and I remember a mith game where three players claimed survivors and they were scumbuddies.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #736 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:20 am

B5 for me, and what's with the other races?

I don't get what's going on with RG. Can someone clue me in?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #824 (isolation #15) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:09 am

Sorry, I keep forgetting I'm in this game. I'll examine the case against Knight of Cydonia.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #839 (isolation #16) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:04 am

To speed up matters, a claim from KoC and veerus would be most appreciated. Both should claim.

KoC has enough votes to warrant a claim, so in the meantime I'll pressure veerus.

unvote, vote: veerus

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #850 (isolation #17) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:52 pm

I'm sorry guys, I made a mistake. I checked my PM too quickly and when I read the words "Babylon 5" early in my PM, I thought that's what I was but in fact, I am EarthForce. Sorry about that.

That means 5 x B5
and we're in fact 3 with EarthForce.

The races remain unequally distributed, with Narn having 4, and Centauri having 2.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #918 (isolation #18) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:33 am

I'm in, but I don't think we'll have time. Why is farside more scum than KoC though?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #920 (isolation #19) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:36 am

Question.

Could this game be so easily breakable simply by stating our races? If so we'll be shooting fish in a barrel and will win before Xmas.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #923 (isolation #20) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:40 am

Kinetic wrote:This whole thing was messed up because TOWNIES lied, or atleast they're claiming to be townies and lying.

I don't follow what you're saying. Why would townies lie? But then I can't understand your outrage because of course some scum will claim to be townies, and be lying. And I'm really confused now. Are we claiming to be townies vs. scum??? How do you KNOW who the townies are, and how do you know these are townies lying? My brain must be frozen today.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #924 (isolation #21) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:41 am

Kinetic wrote:Its a tool. It HELPS. It doesn't do the whole job for you. But it should help focus your attention. All it required was townies not being idiots.

But if the scum is relatively evenly distributed across races, endgame will be a breeze.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #925 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:42 am

farside claimed non-town? I have to look that up.. Hold on.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #927 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:53 am

Ah c'mon. I knew when I made the mistake that I was between a rock and a hard place. I had the choice between repairing the error and appearing scummy at the peril of my own life, but to the town's benefit, or not. Get over it.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #928 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:59 am

Kinetic: How sure are you that farside claimed scum and why?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #974 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:44 pm

cr3t1n wrote:farside didnt claim scum
she claimed anti-something but thats not scum

there IS NOT ONE TOWN in this game

I wanted Kinetic to explain himself.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #977 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:48 pm

I thought I was voting for KoC, I forgot I switched to veerus.

In any even I cannot imagine any scenario where KoC is town. I think he's scum that's given up.

vote: Knight of Cydonia

DIE SCUM DIE

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #990 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:04 pm

No, I had not unvoted veerus.

unvote, vote: KnightofCydonia

KRAP I loathe, hate, despise mods that are anal with unvoting.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #995 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:20 pm

I want the vote to count. This unvoting nonsense it nuts. It should be understood that a vote: supersedes an annuls the previous vote. I hope Tar won't be pedantic about it under the circumstances. It may be the first time I'm in a game where there may be consequences.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #997 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:22 pm

Hey, can we invoke some issue with daylights savings confusion or sum'thin?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1070 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:46 am

hp [leaves] wrote:
Vote: The Internet

With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.

Care to explain?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1073 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am

Kinetic wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
hp [leaves] wrote:
Vote: The Internet

With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.
Care to explain?
He won't vote for someone claiming to be his partner.

Who? And who claimed to be his partner? He should vote for his partner?

This game confuses me, but I'm making cognitive inroads, if slowly.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1074 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am

@ Empking: BOLD your vote.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1076 (isolation #33) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:15 am

Ah, I see.

Farside did get caught in a lie though and I can't think of a situation where that would be pro-town. I think she's more blatantly scum. Also, she's giving up for a flimsy reason. Just like KoC gave up when caught and hoped that we'd forget about him. I think farside is hoping that having herself replaced is going to trip us into voting someone outside of her player slot.

vote: farside22

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1077 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:23 am

Dybeck is a dead anti-Vorlon. So we have HP, Farside and Dybeck as claimed anti-Vorlons?

Am I missing some "anti's?"

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1084 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14 am

Kinetic wrote:...then unless Theinternet counter-claims farside, he is the scum...

So we have a 50-50 chance of hitting scum with either of these two? If so if becomes a question of which goes first.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1093 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:58 pm

Good job.

unvote, vote: HPleaves

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1094 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:01 pm

So, wait. Earlier, I wrote:

"Dybeck is a dead anti-Vorlon. So we have HP, Farside and Dybeck as claimed anti-Vorlons?"

We had 4 possible anti-Vorlons. Does this mean that one of the claimed anti-Vorlon, HP, is lying? If so then what is farside trying to cover up?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1124 (isolation #38) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:22 am

Maybe it's my advanced age, but I'm unable to read cretin's posts.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1125 (isolation #39) » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:24 am

I can't imagine Malt faking his result. If he's wrong, he'll be dead tomorrow. That's not the sort of gambit a scum would attempt on Day 2.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1179 (isolation #40) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:10 pm

hp [leaves] wrote:I believe in your theory as it is pretty much perfectly balanced.

Doesn't that mean an easily breakable game?

Then it's just a matter of mechanically going through the motions.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1206 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:31 am

armlx wrote:I don't see why hp isn't dead yet. He has what amounts to a claimed guilty on him.

His scumbuddies are backing off bus'ing and going after The Internet? Just a guess.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1255 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:31 pm

Centauri:

RandomGem
The internet
farside

Unaligned:

Armlx
MafiaSSK
cr3t1n

Earthforce:

hp [leaves] (dead)
DrippingGoofBall
Pacman

Minbari:

KoC (dead)
Kinetic
Nat

Narn:

malt (dead)
dybeck (dead)
pop

b5:

Mana-ku (dead)
veerus (dead)
ForbiddenLight
Empking
VisMajor

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1257 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:49 pm

Knight of Cydonia,

Vorlon Operative

/

Minbari

Godfather, lynched Day 1
dybeck (rep. soaperguy29), Narn Bat Squad Leader,

Anti-Vorlon

/

Narn

Member, throttled Day 1
Darox, Lorien,

Cult of Pacifism Leader

/

Neutral Survivor

, throat slit Day 1
[hp]leaves, Alfred Bester,

Anti-Vorlon

/

EarthForce

Cop, lynched Day 2
malthusis, G'Kar,

Army of Light

/

Narn

Gunsmith, throttled Day 2
veerus, Susan Ivanova,

Army of Light

/

Babylon 5

Super Jack of All Trades, neck snapped Day 2
Mana_Ku, Lyta Alexander,

Anti-Shadow

/

Babylon 5

Cop, slaughted Day 2

If I understand Kinetic's theory, KoC being dead means that Kinetic and Nat are innocent?

Also, since malt and dybeck are dead, does that mean that pop is by process of elimination, some kind of scum?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1260 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:26 pm

MacavityLock wrote:I replaced PopTaj and I am in fact the last Narn. The 1/1/1 theory is wrong, as I am not scum. Also, please pay close attention to the Minbari win condition, and look who voted for me first.

Can you explain? This game gives me migraines...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1269 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:05 pm

Whoever is supposed to be against Centauri & unaligned... EPIC FAIL.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1270 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:08 pm

Did Mac just claim scum?

What kind of scum are you?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1275 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:16 pm

In other news, pacman is scum.

Also, I don't mind a Minbari win, they've earned it.

unvote, vote: MacavityLock

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1282 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:28 pm

So... what's the difference between lynching the claimed scum MacwhateverLock, and letting Natirasha picking one of the EF (the correct one, please!), and lynching pacman while letting MacLock get vigged?

Weren't some players with investigative roles getting "no results?" That means that perhaps a vig kill is chancy. No?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1286 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:36 pm

Kinetic, what are your current thoughts on the FIVE-group member B5?

b5:
Mana-ku (dead) (anti-Shadow TOWN?)
veerus (dead) ARMY OF LIGHT
ForbiddenLight
Empking
VisMajor

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1288 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:41 pm

In particular, the Narn WC is to: Kill Centauri and B5, and the EF WC is to kill Minbari and B5.

That's 8 players, no? Aren't the other WC up against 6 players only?

Race Win Conditions
Minbari: Kill Earthforce and Narn, they are hunted by Babylon 5 and Unaligned Worlds
Earthforce: Kill unaligned and Centauri, are hunted by Babylon 5 and Minbari
Babylon 5: Kill Earthforce and Minbari, are hunted by unaligned and Narn
Centauri: Kill unaligned and Narn, are huned by Narn and Earthforce
Narn: Kill Centauri and B5, are hunted by Minbari and Centauri
Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari, are hunted by Centauri and Earth force

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1289 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:44 pm

armlx wrote:Wait, wtf, Malth was lying about his result but not role?

Wait, let me guess, Narn has to kill EF.......

Why would he lie about his result?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1306 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:08 am

Kinetic wrote:Aww you're being so mean to your scum partner. What did he do to deserve that?

I'm always grateful when scum buses. I don't question it.

MacavityLock's claiming scum and questioning my motive was worth a few chuckles.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1308 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:39 am

I'd rather you show your calculations.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1309 (isolation #54) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:42 am

MacavityLock wrote:
dybeck wrote:Oh dear. Miscalculation on youir part.
Oh I didn't miscalculate at all. I knew that this was the only way I wasn't guaranteed to go down immediately.

Anyone want to make a sidebet? If I get lynched, AoL will not fulfill their win condition.

BTW, what's AoL's win condition, and if you know, how do you know, and what does that tell us about you?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1313 (isolation #55) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:06 am

RandomGem is still alive? He has last posted in October.

Empking, why on Earth would we want to lynch a confirmed townie over a CONFESSED SCUM THAT KILLS TOWNIES AT NIGHT? If there's a reason, I'd like to hear it. It might be funny.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1316 (isolation #56) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:18 am

An how is that?

We had:
veerus, Susan Ivanova, Army of Light / Babylon 5 Super Jack of All Trades, neck snapped Day 2

And Nat is another Jack of All Trades. Like veerus. Does the AoL kill people at night?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1317 (isolation #57) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:20 am

Kill methods:

throttled
throat slit
neck snapped
slaughtered

Mmm... there are 4.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1319 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:24 am

MacavityLock wrote:Looks like EmpKing just claimed survivor. Hey AoL, Vorlons, and Shadows, better keep EmpKing alive, or an Anti-faction will win!

How do we know EmpKing isn't your lying scumbuddy?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1322 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:24 am

Armlx, what if Nat's vig kill doesn't go through? We leave a claimed scum alive.

Please explain how your plan is good for the rest of us.

Your reactions are bizarre to say the least.

DrippingGoofball · Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:11 am

dybeck wrote:
MacavityLock wrote:
dybeck wrote:Oh dear. Miscalculation on youir part.
Oh I didn't miscalculate at all.
Trust me. You did.

Unfortunately for you, you don't know what i know.

I don't know what this is about, but is sure sounds good.

Can we lynch McCavity already?

@armlx: you have failed to explain how leaving a claimed scum alive one more night benefits YOU.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1351 (isolation #61) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:52 am

armlx wrote:Do you think that Mac being alive tonight will give the scum group he is from an advantage? I don't, if he was a scum RB he would have just claimed RB.

Didn't both flavor cops get roleblocked? That suggests that roleblockers are scum. Claiming roleblocker would be just as good as claiming scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1357 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:56 am

armlx wrote:DGB, I just realized a couple pages ago your WC for Unaligned was wrong. Its kill Centauri + B5 (I think I said this a while ago). So something there is wrong on top of that.

Also, Kinetic, if there's no dead B5 scum, and every other group has 3 people, how can Emp be AOL and your theory be correct?

I copied and pasted from Kinetic's post, or some other player's.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1358 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:57 am

Didn't Empking claim Survivor???

He's ALSO AoL???

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1359 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:59 am

Another thing. The AOL member from B5 is dead. There were 2 AOL's in B5??? Is that what you're saying, Kinetic?

Kinetic wrote:Empking is AoL. Confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt. That may get me killed though so you damn well better kill VisMajor because if the theory holds he's scum.

DrippingGoofball · Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:20 am

armlx wrote:That was what I was wondering.

Yeah, I'm wondering if we're getting horsepuckey from our friend Kinetic...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1367 (isolation #66) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:55 pm

Hey...

There are

FIVE

players in Babylon

FIVE

.

Coincidence???

DrippingGoofball · Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:36 am

Those rat-finks Minbari!!! Criminy, my scumbuddies and myself didn't have a prayer, having to be rid of all these army of light players, AND the other scumteam!!!

Good job Minbari. But I hate you.

DrippingGoofball · Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:38 am

Hey we roleblocked Natirasha, why, that failed?

DrippingGoofball · Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:46 am

The Neutral Survivors had kills, ugh....

DrippingGoofball · Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:05 am

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/rCjLggQRrnzFs

DrippingGoofball · Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:01 pm

MacavityLock wrote:Ha! I warned you guys.

I know you did but from my vantage point, we had to be rid of all Vorlons and all AoL - no mean feat, and a highly improbable outcome at best.