Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Alyssa The Lamb]

TALY WHERE ARE YOU

[Alyssa The Lamb]

alright, well, I'll just say what I'm thinking now and then I'll decide whether I want to make a call or not

i don't see how people think that this is... anything like my scum game at all

what would you say is the main distinguishing factor here

to me it's like

i'm literally doing the biggest thing someone could do if they were scum to handicap themselves and then i just fucking sit around doing nothing all game. like im good at being townread if i try to be because i know what /works/ and then i just said "fuck it no lol" this game danced and twirled some with taly said "yep ready to leave when you are boss" and did nothing but twiddle my thumbs when i could have just paired with someone else and brute forced my way to endgame with them

like yeah sure i let everyone scumread me and just sit there going yep mhm no i wont talk to you actually and just keep going hoping that im dragged along when if im scum i literally know that i am not going to die and have to like.... compensate for that

p-edit: i literally just said it's not worth the effort to me anymore and that i pushed norwee+shiro mostly

when i said my reads were bad this game i literally was townreading all three of the scum for the majority of the game

I think this might be a straight up towntell just by the events of second dance

I think the scumteam

majorly

fucked up when Something_Smart just started getting traction on his wagon

Taly and I were both slow to go onto that wagon; Galron, a flipped town, was pretty convinced of that wagon

Datisi then pushed onto Galron/SS directly because of S_S and Ydrasse basically voted that almost immediately

and then RH9 awkwardly put GuiltyLion at E-1 and then unvoted two hours later, then hemmed and hawwed around killing off Galron/SS later on

this might legit just be the game winning clue that the scum is just RH9 and I didn't even catch it until I looked back through my own ISO to try to find my earlier solve posts

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Galron, a flipped town, was pretty convinced of that wagon being town*

[Alyssa The Lamb]

being ON town

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I guess GuiltyLion isn't here anymore

I leave the dance

[Alyssa The Lamb]

This game was infinitely harder than it ever needed to be

[Alyssa The Lamb]

GG Taly

Very happy for you to pull this one out

Fuck I am too

Kind of on accident but I'm taking the mafia wins when I get them atp...

Low key I feel like we were the only reason the other ever stayed sane lmao

This game was a nightmare to navigate

[Alyssa The Lamb]

That's how I felt the entire dance phases

[Alyssa The Lamb]

alyssa not to be an ass, but ill say it anyway
u were not sane even with taly around, u and taly were both going crazy and u both formed like a junkie co-dependency of like "no we fine we going to quit drugs tomorrow its all going to be okay" before u both spiraled again and then came back to each other.

It was crazy to watch. I would never say u two kept each other "sane" lol.

I would've probably left long before I did otherwise

[Alyssa The Lamb]

This game was infinitely harder than it ever needed to be

It could have ended a lot sooner if we hadn’t gotten miselimed and you hadn’t ignored Titus’ dying reads.

don't

just don't

[Alyssa The Lamb]

alyssa why did you leave just like that

i don't get what you saw that was towny .-.

I left when I realized I hit a point where I would never have tolerated my pairing being the endgame pair

it ultimately wasn't due to the read on you

[Alyssa The Lamb]

This game was infinitely harder than it ever needed to be

It could have ended a lot sooner if we hadn’t gotten miselimed and you hadn’t ignored Titus’ dying reads.

don't

just don't

Sorry but I won’t ever apologize for speaking the truth.

don't join any of my games again

I will do the same for you

[Alyssa The Lamb]

ngl I was pretty much expecting to be the source of a lot of sniping even though I don't think my trajectories really were that bad

the issue was that the way the pairings happened made it extremely hard to find a good way to navigate first dance

and I fucked up by calling for Fire/Andante leaving second because that left the biggest elephant in the room

the game got way better at 8p but I think mentals were too broken by that point

[Alyssa The Lamb]

being misread in the game is not being treated poorly

it happens and everyone makes mistakes

you are absurdly abusive toward anyone who expresses the slightest disagreement toward you

it is utterly repellant behavior and you very clearly made multiple people uncomfortable but they don't speak up because they don't want to withstand a torrent of abuse from you

the absolute minimum amount of decency you could show is to show some kindness to people for getting it right even if they made mistakes. it's not like you were perfect. but you are incapable of clearing that very low bar because you are more concerned with being nasty to anyone you perceive as having wrong you. it is disgusting.

this is because of her dyslexia more than anything tbf

but yeah it made things a lot harder because I was spending a ton of time just trying to not have a million posts shoved up my ass when I was already lowkey emotionally compromised

[Alyssa The Lamb]

ngl I was pretty much expecting to be the source of a lot of sniping even though I don't think my trajectories really were that bad

the issue was that the way the pairings happened made it extremely hard to find a good way to navigate first dance

and I fucked up by calling for Fire/Andante leaving second because that left the biggest elephant in the room

the game got way better at 8p but I think mentals were too broken by that point

ur trajectories were really good prior to me leaving then it went downhill, then u had a really good moment of clarity, then u jumped off a cliff.

FYI pooky posted when i had best reads, literally first 20 some pages of game and by time i died i was demanding a T/T Flip so I am def not immune to any criticism.

I was right on a lot of things in second dance

it was just really hard to be confident on anything since I had nothing to brace myself on

[Alyssa The Lamb]

probably also relevant that I'm really not used to the BoP pressure anymore

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I was so sad when you started getting paranoid

[Alyssa The Lamb]

oh

yeah that really didn't help with staying sane this game lmao

[Alyssa The Lamb]

ngl

I think if the tunneled 1v1 between GL and me wasn't stopped almost immediately, that also might have been gamelosing in the long run

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Alyssa I feel I learned a lot from your perspectives this game you have a very unique and cool way of playing the game

I think if the game had gone really differently, we would've had a 3-man townblock instead of a 2-man townblock in the thread

just getting rid of that TTvTT deathtunneling did an insane amount of good for the game and that by itself is probably how I eventually managed to correctly identify the two TvS pairings at 8p

[Alyssa The Lamb]

S_S in particular I wanna give a shoutout on the scumteam, totally turned his slot around from a difficult spot to replace into, he totally snowed me and it's not the first time he's done that but maaaan I even had my guard up this time and he still did it, well played and gosh it must have been rough to go down like that at the final hour, I think if Datisi/I were limmed instead you very likely could have won

I'm actually not as certain

I think I would've always pushed for SS/Galron to die after your pairing at a certain point and I'm pretty sure I could've gotten Taly to support that

the only problem is that it's at a point where we need the town player to leave unless it's exactly a SvS pairing, and that entirely depends on how S_S handled the pressure to leave I think

[Alyssa The Lamb]

you wanted to play through the shithole that was this game?

you are the truest of masochists

[Alyssa The Lamb]

you played a really strong game, definitely one to be proud of tbh

just kinda unlucky that it was borderline impossible to vote off any pairings all game

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It is incredibly hard to keep up

scum

motivation when the thread is 90% 2 TT pairs death-tunneling each other

fixed

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm confused

[Alyssa The Lamb]

If that's just a list of who you want to hydra with, then it depends

Idk how long I'll be playing again, I definitely don't want to play long enough that this happens every game

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Lmao

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Though it wound up not being the direct reason, the timing of the double replace-out lined up too closely with my 979 for comfort. I was and am not sorry for what I said but did not feel it was appropriate for me to continue with what was publicly available.

I thought this was the entirety of it too

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Me too

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I knew you were town and thought it was likely Shiro was town

but that 1v1 really needed to end and I strongly judged that if there was scum in your pairing, that was the only possible time we would ever have to remove it

I also thought it would be a lot more doable to kill the dats/gl pairing at 8p but that turned out to be impossible