Anything uPick (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Christmas was 2 days ago...

And the dude was prodded but it has not been 24 hours since the prod

Pls calm

[RadiantCowbells]

Twilight begins ends right before I go to bed or when all living players vote to fast twilight.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll actually make a VC now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Anything uPick: Votecount 7.end of day

Galron (4): Sakura Hana, Taly, Deimos27, Ydrasse
RadiantCowbells (1): Good Luck Buddy
Deimos27 (1): Galron
Good Luck Buddy (0):

Sakura Hana

(0):
Taly (0):
Ydrasse (0):

Not Voting: No one for the first time I think

With 6 alive it's 4 to lim.

The day will end in (expired on 2022-05-07 11:00:00).

[RadiantCowbells]

Galron has been limmed! They were Zuzu the Vegetable Farmer.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Galron. You are Zuzu the Vegetable Farmer. You are a Mad Scientist Vegetable Vendor.

Zuzu the Vegetable Farmer grows magnificent veggies; called for far and wide. Carrots that taste like broasted turkey legs, beets that favor plums, and corn that melts on the tongue like ice cream. In his lab, Zuzu splices and dices and grafts bits of one plant to another, a grand display of his mastery of botany.

Grafter (Mad Scientist): Every first target will take a bit of a role, not impacting that player. The second target will receive the role, giving them some ability that the original player possessed.
Vegetable Vendor (Fruit Vendor): Everyone you target will know that they received either carrots, beets, or corn. You may choose which to dish out.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Night 7 begins, submit action and fast night to speed it up!

[RadiantCowbells]

Deimos27 has died! They were Clemency.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Deimos27. You are Clemency, Town Neighbour Mason.

all due respect, the words "Clemency" and "normal" do not belong in the same paragraph

Fated Connection (Mason): You are a mason with Clemency, played by Deimos27, and you may discuss the game here.
'Scummer (Neighbour): You are a neighbour with other scummers and may discuss the game here.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Dawn 8 begins!

[RadiantCowbells]

The prayers of many have reached Sanae Kochiya in their dying moments, bolstering her power and fueling her ascension to godhood.

As her power waxes she reaches her 13th prayer and creates a miracle, ascending to divinity and winning the game for her team.

Sakura Hana was Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Mafia Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!

Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Strongman Ninja Vigilante): At 5 prayers once per game you may target a player for a nightkill that will use both the strongman and ninja modifiers. This is independent of the factional nightkill.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be roleblocked.
Forgotten Ritual (Mass Roleblock): At 10 prayers, you can roleblock every town-aligned player together. This supercedes all other actions.
OR
Forgotten Ritual (1-Shot Loyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can target a player with a Loyal Vig action.
Miracle (Non-standard Win Condition): At 13 prayers, you can cause a miracle and win the game instantly for your team.
Mafia (Mafia): You are aligned with the Mafia and can discuss the game with your teammates here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your fakeclaim is as follows:

Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!

Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Parity Cop): At 5 prayers once per game you may target two player and learn whether they are the same alignment or different.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be interfered with.
Forgotten Ritual (2-Shot Disloyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can pick two players and disloyally vig them, killing them if they are not on your team.
Miracle (Divine Ascension): At 13 prayers, you leave the game. As you leave, you are given the full scumteam and have the option of strongman killing one of your choice.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Anything uPick has ended!

[RadiantCowbells]

Good Luck Buddy was Naruto Uzumaki, Seventh Hokage.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Good Luck Buddy! You are Naruto Uzumak, Seventh Hokage. You are a 20-Use Multitarget Ninja Tracker.

If you didn't like the hand that fate's dealt you, then time to fight for a new one?

Shadow Clone (20-Use Multitarget): Each night you may target unlimited players with your action, but you will be unable to determine which of your results was which. You may track a total of 20 players during the game.
Sage Mode (Ninja Tracker): Each night you may target players, determining which players they visited. You don't show up on results for investigatives of the motion classes, such as watchers trackers voyeurs et al.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Taly was Taly, Friendly Woodpecker.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Taly. You are Taly, Friendly Woodpecker. You are a Self-Targeting Friendly Neighbour Neighbour.

the range of quality with my gameplay ranges from absolute shit to amazing regardless of alignment.

I choose me! (Self-Targeting): You compulsively target yourself every night in the game, in the same way you chose to pick yourself.
Friendly! (Friendly Neighbour): Your target will learn that you are town-aligned.
'Scummer (Neighbour): You are a neighbour with other scummers and may discuss the game here.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening

Ydrasse was Jaina Proudmoore.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Ydrasse. You are Jaina Proudmoore, Informing 1-Shot Reflexive Roleblocker 1-Shot Doublevoter 3-Shot Jailkeeper.

We are, all of us, our own phoenixes, if we choose to be. Out of the ashes, we can be reborn.

Flash Freeze (1-Shot Reflexive Roleblocker): Once per game you may flash freeze, freezing any player who targets you. They will get a message saying they were "encased in ice."
Water Elemental (1-Shot Doublevoter): Once per game you may summon a water elemental, who will vote the same person you vote and give you two votes.
Frozen Solid (3-Shot Jailkeeper): Thrice per game you may encase a player in ice, both protecting them from nightkills and roleblocking them. They will get a message saying they were "encased in ice."

You may only use one ability each night.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

[RadiantCowbells]

Anything uPick has ended in a

Mafia

Victory!

[RadiantCowbells]

I've decided not to post night actions

everyone can post their own if they want but I don't really want to encourage postgame warrioring

[RadiantCowbells]

design philosophy wise I modelled this game after Varsoon's game design, with particular inspiration from Saga Frontier

I really hated the specific nonstandard win condition in that game but I thought that the idea was still overall interesting enough to want to design one and how to implement one is something I've thought about quite a bit over the years so I was quite happy to see the role that Sakura submitted

If she was town she would have had a similar 13 pointer but it would have had a Mecha'cthun inspired win condition that required her to be hammered by scum in endgame with her vote on herself but I didn't fully flesh it out

NK15's role is outside of the typical scope of one of my games but I'm reasonably happy with how it turned out; I know that several people were unhappy with how it played out and I do think that it's reasonable not to expect something like that in one of my games if you're expecting an experience consistent with my past moderating experience but I was going for a different approach to the game to see what people's thoughts were

if there's anything else people want to comment on or ask me, feel free!

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like games to be solvable by role claim. GrandpaMo had an even better fakeclaim in my opinion, but just because someone's claim is towny != they are town.

When I design scum roles I design their town claims first so that every scum role I design has a role that fits neatly into the game overall.

[RadiantCowbells]

Her role denied town 1 lim that no living or dead townie would have advocated be used on her. I think when 13/14 of the dead town call you town you deserve to have nice things. If her role didn't exist she still would have won this MyLo so

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Sakura played very well and overall scum made fairly good night actions and town tied their hands up but still managed to keep punching themselves in the face. I'm happy with the outcome and not really sympathetic to people who think Sakura's alt wincon was unfair outside of a broader 'alt wincons are unfair', town has a long list of powerful roles and the vast majority of them were not used well enough to win even in a setup that was specifically designed to prevent town from accruing clears and guilties over time. Shout out to Jjh for the 1-shot bodyguard death speedrun

Also something to seriously consider about Sakura Hana: if her role is so town what if it's a lie? No one can verify praying to her or not, you know.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't necessarily think it saves town here.

I don't think Sakura did anything that doesn't align with her fakeclaim and i think that she can easily just say "yeah i disloyal vigged [blank] tonight, so we are liming in [other two] without much questioning if the alt wincon doesn't pan through which is the power of scum having coherent fakeclaims and playing to their fakeclaims

I understand SS not going with his fakeclaim in the state of the game but i don't think Sakura can really be trapped mechanically outside of 'how are scum this braindead just sitting and watching while she systematically obliterates them'

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, scum not doing something about Sakura is the biggest asterisk in the game

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think your fakeclaim is horrible to be honest, just that it would have taken a solid 3-4 hours of backtracking to reverse engineer viable target selections for

Basically I'm telling you not to claim the roleblock because it allows you to use it fully proscum and also to claim something that likely doesn't reach lylo but is also almost never elimed early and to try to bring down Ydrasse

Redirector claims redirect because it's an absurd power role, you get to use the vanillaizer as a purely proscum action, and by outing it and possibly giving Taly his IC status you can keep the role alive to play disruption all game. Queen is actually the 'best' role that scum has given that Sakura's is very feast or famine.

[RadiantCowbells]

I just don't think your fakeclaim is easy to play, is more of what i think is valid than 'my fakeclaim was bad'

[RadiantCowbells]

Shout out to Gmo having the easiest fakeclaim in the game

-target person who is widely townread
-person gets fruit and lives and is not roleocked
-person dies later on a night they weren't given fruit

[RadiantCowbells]

Also since you're fully disposable as Rundas you can just yolo claim a guilty on whoever the fuck you want and take out a townish slot

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not really criticizing play I'm more just explaining the synergy as i envisioned it in an optimal game

[RadiantCowbells]

I've actually posted in game thread instead of scum PT before

[RadiantCowbells]

Beta work vs Chad letting Sakura do all the work

[RadiantCowbells]

also scumbag creature

need you to spew us town? nowhere to be seen
cleared in mylo? shows up in scum PT "HEY GUYS HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME"

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

Dead PT

Scum hood mason PTs will be opened in 48 hours barring an objection

[RadiantCowbells]

sus

[RadiantCowbells]

nope surely not.

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

look

A lot of town made poor decisions, no one person deserves blame.

[RadiantCowbells]

let's blame ank

[RadiantCowbells]

Welcome, NK15. You are an Empty sheet of Paper, a fresh, clean start. You are a Delayed-Entry Re-Roller.

C'mon Hobbes old buddy, let's go exploring!

Empty (Delayed-Entry): You are currently empty and will not immediately participate in the game.
A blank slate! (Re-Roll): Each night you may submit a role and will get a new role each dawn, always town.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel like I want to nominate Sakura for something but I'm not sure what if anything fits

[RadiantCowbells]

Scum PT
MS Hood
Mason PT
Eastern Bloc Scum PT
Eastern Bloc
Western Bloc Scum PT
Western Bloc

personal/hydra PTs will only be released under specific request, mod pt contains discussion pertinent to potential future games so that's not gonna be released either

[RadiantCowbells]

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Have you looked at Good Luck Buddy's iso

[RadiantCowbells]

This is a joke

[RadiantCowbells]

ur comment or our iso. cause both seem funny to me

your iso ppnbopid;u

[RadiantCowbells]

Just want to thank everyone involved for playing and reviewing the game!