Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[cr3t1n]

veerus ur fosing me

y


hi forbiddan r u mafier

[cr3t1n]

I sorta have to side with armlx here. Pretty much if we have no one better to lynch, MafiaSSK goes down the tubes. Plus, it looks like we need some way to inject some action into this game (Plus, who can argue with a tiger )

Vote: MafiaSSK

P.S: I really wish more players would participate in the discussion. And where did Cr3t1n disappear of to?

FoS: Cr3t1n

l0lwut im here

y rnt u lookin at other ppl who r lurkin

voet: VismAior

[cr3t1n]

tar hit me with a stik
his mean

y rnt u lookin at other ppl who r lurkin

voet: VismAior

Uh, VisMajor just voted yesterday.

his not sayin nething

r u suspishus of him

Any survivor/villager claims would hurt the town so it isn't a good time for it.

i fink hp is a surviver
wat do u fink
plz reply quickly

[cr3t1n]

Just letting everyone know my thoughts. I think the survivors should claim if they feel it would help, and I think ant should full claim before the town tries to force them to claim. Cybele is fairly scummy, but I think I'll wait for him to drop another tell or at least reply. Kinetic seems to be normal, but I wouldn't rule him out as survivor.

l0lwut


y r ppl sayin town wen evry1 has 2 win condishuns
they r scummy

[cr3t1n]

I'm going to point it out one more time, and unless you're slow you understand. I want everyone to claim. I think its a good idea. I refuse to claim unless there is a consensus that everyone will claim. You want me to claim without that consensus, and you are trying to (not so cleverly) hide your intent behind semantics.

You want EXACTLY what I want, and you've already heard my terms. You don't reject my terms and then expect me to just give you what you want. You want my claim, I want yours and everyone else in return. That's how this goes down. I'll leave no shadow of a doubt exactly who the town is.

u shud claim bcuz we r going 2 lynch u if u dont

i fink u slipped wen u said u were bussing 2

unvote vote; kinetic

malthusis u didnt answer my question
y

[cr3t1n]

i believ natirashas claim

i dont fink kinetic was busing him

unvote

malt is still ignoring me

vote; malthusis

[cr3t1n]

P.S: I really wish more players would participate in the discussion. And where did Cr3t1n disappear of to?

FoS: Cr3t1n

i askd him y he wasnt lookin at other ppl who were lurking n vote vismmaior
then he sed

Uh, VisMajor just voted yesterday.

but that desnt meen vismaior wasnt lurkin b4 that
then he sed this

We need some prodding. Mod: Prod Internet, DGB, Tovarish, and Vismaior.

vismaior is lurking now
l0lwut

he desnt asnwer when i ask him if his suspishus of vismaior

y

maebe becuz he is scum

[cr3t1n]

sory i forgot to post

i will post rly quickly

You are very, very lucky that you have such a good sense of timing. - Tar

[cr3t1n]

cretin, you need to race claim while you're still around.

im here
im reeding now on page 23

wen did the raseclaim start

[cr3t1n]

im league of unaligned worlds member

i fink there r lots of townies who dont no who each other are they r uninformed
we shudnt be racist that wat babylon 5 was 4
i fink there is more than 1 mafier they r informed
n the townys shud try 2 lynch them


hear is wat i got from reeding agen

I was really considering voting malthusis for that Kinetic vote, but Nat is confirmed non-town so.....

cant malt b mafier as well as nat

i dont understand y didnt u voet 4 malt then


malt sounds suspishus in 573 he dosnt explane his voet 4 natirasha
he looks oppertunistic

Last, the logical choice for lynch today is Nat or hp[leaves]. They're confirmed mafia biased, even if they're not mafia. Additionally, I'm concerned about their WCs. They're survivor hunters, but they can theoretically win even if dead...

y
hunting survivors isnt scummy n desnt meen u dont hav 2 hunt mafier 2

hpleaves is confusin me here

Actually I can win the game no matter alive or dead. Me dying this day does nothing good or bad to me. But I can help

you

only while I'm alive.

i fink maebe his makin it up after tarhalindur posted about win condishuns makin it sound lyk mor then it is

Well, anyway, given the current line of discussion, both Nat and hp need to die I think. I'll support either lynch, and since currently it seems to be in favor of hp leaves...

l0lwut
"given the current line of discussion, both Nat and hp need to die I think" y r u followin insted of explaning

I doubt we have any more survivors

"any more"
who were the first 1s
this is suspishus

If both of these are true, that means it would be physically impossible for the town (Army of Light) to achieve it's win condition of killing both Vorlons and Shadows because as soon as one group died one of hp or nat would win.

I don't think Tar would give the town a physically impossible win condition.

y do u keep sayin town
n look

The game ends when a win condition is fulfilled unless that win condition explicitly says otherwise.

Quote:


I don't know. I'm just speculating at this point. What makes you think they're different?


Three regular survivors...in a Tar game? Yeah right. Survivor in MS one had that cool power that screwed up vots. Survivor/Serial Killer in MS two had the ability to kill by abilities. Even if this isn't MS, I doubt that Tar would EVER make a vanilla survivor. And I doubt he'd use two of the same type unless maybe they were mason survivors (which would be a cool role, lol)

I highly doubt it. I personally think they're two scum from the same scumgroup fakeclaiming opposite survivors so they can distance each other. Even if i'm wrong (and I don't) everyone agrees that they aren't town anyways. The question is which one of them should we lynch first?

y
malt keeps pushin that hp n natirasha r survivors but their is no reeson
his just following every1
i fink hes definitly scum

Most players will have Army of Light as this alignment wants both mafia dead.
Then there is the Anti-shadow. These wants the Shadow Operatives and the Neutral Survivars dead.
Which would mean that there is also an Anti-Vorlons (HP). They would win when the Vorlon Operatives and the Neutral Survivors are gone.
Then there are the two mafia: Shadow/Vorlon Operatives. The Shadow Operatives want probably the AoL and the Anti-shadows exterminated, while the Vorlon-Operatives want the AoL and the Anti-Vorlons out of the game.
Last will be the Neutral Survivors, which would mean that they just need to survive as every alignment is already hunted by two alignments.

i fink mana ku is rite

Remember: If no one has majority by deadline, it is a no lynch. I strongly urge everyone to make up their minds about who to lynch.

l0lwut
u say we need 2 lynch but u dont tell us who
scum

dybeck did the same thin


i can voet hp becuz of 619 but i want 2 lynch malt

y isnt ne1 looking at him?
his so scummy he follows ppl n ignores questions
forget about races
scumhunt n lynch scum instead
lynch

malthusis

[cr3t1n]

the dedline is soon n there r 2 many ppl hu arent voting - Knight of Cydonia (rep. Cybele), forbiddanlight, populartajo, veerus, TheInternet, RandomGem, hp [leaves]

the case on nat is bad its not about scumhunting
i fink there r scum pushin it

the case on malt is gud
hes scummy

VOTE 4 MALT

[cr3t1n]

wat is the case on koc?
i cant remember it


malt
y rnt u replying 2 my case?
mana ku is voeting u now 2

[cr3t1n]

Though how do you distinguish that from Nat/hp/Mana?

by there play instead of flaver?

malt is still mafier

i cud voet 4 KoC bcuz hes lurkin

im going 2 reed the case on veerus

[cr3t1n]

i fink veerus is rong about anti-shodow meening vorlon and stuff
i dont fink hes scumm tho
hes just lookin at flaver 2 much

evry1 voeting him bcuz of that n who r suspishus of nat/hp/mana bcuz of there claims r dumb

Its true they are not the best townies. In fact, everything they do we're going to have to watch, but in the end, they are not scum. Lynching them will bring us no closer to winning the game. It won't give us any information if the town agrees to lynch them and it won't lessen the number of scum.

w00t
finaly sumthing smart
evry1 shud listen 2 this

they cant win if ANY of the mafier factions win first
so they want 2 lynch scum not innocents

evry1 shud stop being dum n scumhunt insted of tryin 2 get claims n outgess the mod

[cr3t1n]

i fink thees r the biggest wagons
Knight of Cydonia (4) - pacman281292, Natirasha, armlx, dybeck
Natirasha (2) - farside22, malthusis
The Internet (3) - Kinetic, fobiddanlight, veerus
hp [leaves] (2) - Darox, Empking

the dedline is 2day n we need 12 voets to lynch

unvoet

i will voet 4 Koc or theinternet
i want 2 vote KoC becuz hes not postin here

kinetic, r u only voeting him becuz of ur theory?

Time to put Kinetic's theory to the test.. if he's right on this, the rest of his theories will gain more weight. Otherwise we'll know early enough not to rely on his theories too heavily.

y r u voetin theinternet if u fink kinetics theeory is rong
wud u voet for KoC?

Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari

this is rong
its centauri n babylon 5

[cr3t1n]

i red all of theinternets posts
he didnt look very scummy 2 me exept 4 this

Well, I guess all I can say in my defense is don't outguess the mod, and this is a tar game. I'd also like to raise the theory that all of the anti-x are actually members of one of the mafias using safeclaims. Just a possibility, remember there are 3 of them and 3 of each mafia.

i want theinternet 2 explayn why he sed 3 mafier
if he cant im voeting him

otherwise im voeting 4 KoC
we shud lynch him if he keeps lurking 2morow
mafiassk as well

[cr3t1n]

farside didnt claim scum
she claimed anti-something but thats not scum

there IS NOT ONE TOWN in this game

Hi!

Kinetics theory has too many assumtions for my taste. Where do you take your numbers? Outguessing the mod are you? That is often counterproductive.

i fink ur posts r counterproductive

y did farside claim narn if she wasnt
thats suspishus

Vote: knight of cydonia

hes fase is mafier

[cr3t1n]

<10> If deadline occurs and no player has a majority of votes, No Lynch will occur.

we need 2 lynch sum1
plz reply quickly

[cr3t1n]

i fink there r mor uninformed roles then informed 1s
they r the town but they have different WCs
thats y there isnt only 1 town
all of the towns need the informed roles 2 die or they will loose neway
thats y we shud look 4 scum n not only look on claims
tar probably gave scum saifclaims neway

kinetics rite
his theeory is a tool but wont win the gaim alone

[cr3t1n]

Tomorrow, while we're lynching farside, we need to know why DGB is derailing this lynch by posting with no vote.

shes alredy voeting KoC

[cr3t1n]

voet count is lyk this
Knight of Cydonia (9) - pacman281292, Natirasha, armlx, dybeck, Mana_Ku, Kinetic, fobiddanlight, farside22, cr3t1n
Natirasha (1) - malthusis
The Internet (2) - veerus, Knight of Cydonia
hp [leaves] (2) - Darox, Empking

there r mor wagons but i forgot them

we need 3 mor voets on KoC 2 lynch his fase

[cr3t1n]

Tomorrow, while we're lynching farside, we need to know why DGB is derailing this lynch by posting with no vote.

shes alredy voeting KoC

No she isn't. She's voting veerus.

ur rite

[cr3t1n]

Tomorrow, while we're lynching farside, we need to know why DGB is derailing this lynch by posting with no vote.

shes alredy voeting KoC

No she isn't. She's voting veerus.

ur rite

And you're lying. I wonder why.

FOS: farside22, DGB, cr3t1n

y

[cr3t1n]

ppl hu rnt voeting KoC or pushing another lynch:
populartajo, TheInternet, RandomGem, hp [leaves], Darox, MafiaSSK, malthusis, Empking, VisMaior, DrippingGoofball, veerus

we need 2 ask them y
pop is bein replayced tho

[cr3t1n]

Knight of Cydonia (rep. Cybele) (10) - pacman281292, Natirasha, armlx, Kinetic, forbiddanlight, dybeck, Mana_Ku, forbiddenlight, farside, creten

u put forbiddanlite 2 times
KoC only has 9 voets

[cr3t1n]

i didnt c malts voet
he has 10 now

[cr3t1n]

I think I just realized a flaw in your plan Kinetic. (All though I still agree with lynching KoC today). What would scum gain from claiming a different race then their own? Couldn't they just claim their own race and be able to prove it easily?

lyk u did?

[cr3t1n]

Announcement: If a player is posting using something other than standard English and continues to do so after at least three other players ask that player to stop, I may give out penalties for Jackassery if I deem it appropriate. (Understand, cr3t1n.) - Tar

ur meen

The anti-shadows. Natirasha and I have claimed. There's possibly another one.

i dont no if i shud hav dun this
but im anti-shadow

i fink farside mite hav been rly confused

Hp is lying scum trying to cover her tracks with a cop claim. I am actually a Narn Gunsmith-like role, and I got a guilty read on [hp] having the ability to kill people(The flavor says I am a good judge of character, so [hp] might not nessecarily have a gun). It's also really hard to believe we have 2 cops and 2 roleblockers in the same setup.

Vote [hp] leaves

there cud b 2 cops or investigaters maebe moar

did hp say he cud kill b4?

Vote HP

Its so nice when things are that easy.

y
y dont u fink hp cud b lyk a vig?

FOS: armlx

ur not even scum hunting

Um...wow, well, with that

Unvote, Vote hp [leaves]

We all know malthy is dead if he's lying, right?

wth
he sed hp can kill not that he is scum

However, you should look at it this way, if Malt is lying then we'll lynch him and we'll get a scum out of this either way.

NO

omg

y r ppl so dum?
maebe malt isnt lieing
maebe his target was switched
maebe scum switched hp n scum


y isnt ne1 suspishus of empking?
his lurking

[cr3t1n]

HP then CLEARED Malt with his "COP" ability.

he sed he got no result

y do u fink hp or malt is lieing?

wat if hp was blockd or switched so malt investigated a killer insted?

nat claimed bus driver
maebe sum1 else was bus driver in day 1

evry1 is being lazy n followin the cop
i sed evry1 shud stop being dum n scumhunt insted!

y is hp suspishus beside malts claim?

[cr3t1n]

HP then CLEARED Malt with his "COP" ability.

he sed he got no result

y do u fink hp or malt is lieing?

wat if hp was blockd or switched so malt investigated a killer insted?

nat claimed bus driver
maebe sum1 else was bus driver in day 1

evry1 is being lazy n followin the cop
i sed evry1 shud stop being dum n scumhunt insted!

y is hp suspishus beside malts claim?

We also said you should use English.

y

ur ignoring how laim ur case on hp is

[cr3t1n]

so whos going 2 lynch malt if hp isnt mafier?
whos going 2 push that crap case?

ne1 who is voting hp becuz of malts result needs 2 explain y malt is moar trustworthy then hp
if u cant ur iether scum or dum

i want 2 voet 4 armlx becuz he looks lyk lazy scum

but

Cybele is fairly scummy, but I think I'll wait for him to drop another tell or at least reply. Kinetic seems to be normal, but I wouldn't rule him out as survivor.

he defended cybele hu was scum

mafiassk is scummy 2 n i saw these

He has a history of being replaced and lurking, and even admits to it in his wiki.

I'm a lurker. =D That's my playstyle and if you don't like it then I guess you don't. But that's how I play.

Clearly this devient needs to be lynched asap.

LURKER!=SCUM. Plus, what is the harm if he is replaced? As his meta shows, he lurks as both scum and town, making lurking a null tell.

Mana sounds good.

Unvote, vote MAna

claim please before you disappear again.

Unvote; Vote: MafiaSSK

WC or role?

race only

so i fink we shud pressure theinternet n mafiassk

vote: mafiassk

4 lurking

[cr3t1n]

u never talked about cybele or KoC again after that
if u were suspishus of him u shud hav sed moar

how do u fink we shud find out if mafiassk is scum?
y r u letting him lurk?

[cr3t1n]

BUSDRIVER
OR
TARGET SWITCHER

Y RNT U FINKING ABOUT THEM?

U WANT 2 POSIBLY LYNCH

2

CLAIMED INVESTIGATERS BECUZ OF 1 RESULT?

WTF IS RONG WIF U PPL?!

is hp even scummy?

malt y did u target hp? r u suspishus of him? y