Squid Game! Game Over!

[Loki Dokie]

I'LL DANCE WITH THESE [Phenomenal Movers]:

Morning Tweet

Dwlee99

Save The Dragons
tictac

Something_Smart

Hmmm . . . interesting. I mean the Dwelee read obviously.

[Loki Dokie]

I'm thinking let's not sort based on the activity overview. Tictac has been pretty town in the PT.

Yes and he did a complete 180 on RCE slot which makes very little sense for scum to do.

this was koba not tictac.

No, I am talking about tictac. He initially was convinced on you being scum and switched to strongly tr you. You obviously wouldn’t know this because you don’t have access to our PT.

[Loki Dokie]

STD pls teach me how to dance

\o/

Accept

This proposal is Loki approved.

[Loki Dokie]

STD pls teach me how to dance

I accept this dance

[Loki Dokie]

I want tictac and rce and the rest are whatever

[Loki Dokie]

I have a hard time wrapping my head around Math.

I sure as hell wouldn't trust town-him not to walk out on me the moment I said something he didn't like.

My options rn are like... Wheme/Math/Number

So I'm probably not making it to endgame cause I scumread all of these people

Wheme is already spoken for.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki, are you fine with me pairing with FB?

I certainly think he's a better choice than anyone else available.

Sure. Know he will leave because he does this irrespective of alignment in any dance ever.

But I do think he’s town here.

So Loki gives his blessing.

[Loki Dokie]

Remind me why you scumread Wheme?

I feel decently good about him, though I definitely couldn't tell you why off the top of my head.

I remember disagreeing with Wheme's read of the game and I found that the way be pushed me for getting a parachute for toog was extremely hypocritical and tunneled when he apparently had no rage for himself saving FB or for FB saving Spamton

Well compared to FFIV, I think that’s his townplay but tbf, that was after three townflips. It all depends on whether or not I’m right on toog being scum and I still think I am.

Ydrasse sounded like she did in FL v Hectic and toog seems very different than his typical town meta.

[Loki Dokie]

Sure. Know he will leave because he does this irrespective of alignment in any dance ever.

But I do think he’s town here.

Well if you think he's gonna leave, wouldn't you want him with scum?

I feel like he has a decent record of reading me so hopefully he wouldn't leave on a whim, at least.

Well only player I rn think is scum on Tryhard Avengers is toog. So, I don’t tr anyone else on ClownQueen. So unfortunately your options are kind’ve limited.

Oh A50, you could ask him or rather vice-versa. So one of those.

[Loki Dokie]

Okay but what about firebringer grabbing for spamton

To my knowledge you called it out while wheme has been silent

Wheme put alot of pressure on him to do that though. I’m still null on them, so my read on them is mostly based on PoE not anything else.

[Loki Dokie]

And to my knowledge wheme independently townread me before that soo

I just think that slot would have more than likely flipped red and you just flat out ignored that, so yeah it looked really bad when both Gamma and D’Arby flipped green.

I know I’m tr some people wrong but not sure who yet.

I still think toog/Math/Q are scum. Maybe Spam and if enchant is town, then two slots I’m misreading.

I just don’t know but I was confident on Noraa!town which is why I wanted my team to vote with me.

[Loki Dokie]

How can anyone not want Math "actively refusing to scumhunt" Blade to be left out

Morning Tweet, may I have this dance?

What do you think about him not proposing to anyone?

[Loki Dokie]

Why did A50/Toog pair together again?

That's one that should probably be flipping relatively soon.

Yep because I’m relatively confident toog’s scum here.

[Loki Dokie]

Why did A50/Toog pair together again?

That's one that should probably be flipping relatively soon.

Yep because I’m relatively confident toog’s scum here.

I'm really looking forward to some privacy in our velvet-draped PT.

Can’t wait.

[Loki Dokie]

The Saving of Spamton

rated a humiliating 8% on rottentomatoes.

I must have missed that. Hopefully they don’t do a sequel.

[Loki Dokie]

In the movie, Spamton is a red player who, up to the dance partner game event, had only made thirteen [[NONSENSICAL]] [[gimmick!!!]] posts. Then, when his behind was on the line, his red friends poked him to start posting to cleave his redness onto a green player so he wouldn't be left behind.

Yeah, that is interesting.

[Loki Dokie]

It's how he's been behaving all game. Coasting and fluffing but never actually doing anything.

This time though he's heading for his own fate. Do you think Scum will miss out and be the ONLY player who hasn't offered to dance wit someone?

Unless -of course- you're saying there are TWO SCUMS in MT/Dwlee, and at least one will refuse to accept a dance offer until time has ran out and Mafia decided to pair them up with Scum!Math. Do you think this is a remotely reasonable assumption?

It’s possible especially if they’re both aligned. Math flips red and Q gets instant towncred.

[Loki Dokie]

Shall I dance with math?

Who else is still available? I think you’re probably pairing with scum either way.

[Loki Dokie]

Well, I think leaving Spam out wouldn’t have told us much irrespective of alignment but perhaps Q’s flip will?

[Loki Dokie]

Btw, I will restate this one more time: MAMA RU IS SCUM. She has sought refuge in the company of obv!Town Loki to make sure she doesn't get eliminated. This is probably the one and only SR I am sure of.

Why is she scum? And if I do agree with you on that, I will leave. But rn, I’m leaning to her being town but we’ll see. I think as long as STD/Wheme endgames, we win this regardless. RCE and tictac is also good.

[Loki Dokie]

And if I do agree with you on that, I will leave.

Do I speak Swahili? DON'T LEAVE BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT ALL.

And I already explained why she was Scum, but you're not reading. Like, she's been doing Scum 101 ALL game, and this time it was nothing different. Why would anyone propose to YOU in the manner she did, rather than have YOU decide whom you wanted to? She wanted to snatch you first, and has pocketed you with a .. well.. not the most honest of tricks, and you just fell for it.

The purpose of having a PT with someone should be to "read them better" (see how Dwlee wanted Math over Spamton). Why does Mama Ru pick YOU? Did she need to "figure out your alignment" still? That's why I suspect Enchant as well, He did it "the other way" though, and went for ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS.

Take it ONE STEP AT ATIME though. We need not die on this hill if we have a chance to get to the final game. If everybody explodes at will we may not even get to the next game/round/phase.

No do you? I told you I will not leave unless I’m convinced she’s scum. Of course I will listen to feedback, that goes without saying.

[Loki Dokie]

Vote Dwlee + Math out when the dance starts pls. My final request.

Koba, how do you know that wasn’t distancing?

[Loki Dokie]

i'd like to suggest we go FB+SS and if FB flips scum we flip Spamton btw

Voting that slot is a waste since Fire will leave anyway. Only game he didn’t do that was Dark Waltz III because he literally didn’t have a choice in that.

[Loki Dokie]

i'd like to suggest we go FB+SS and if FB flips scum we flip Spamton btw

Fire wasn’t trying very hard to catch the chute for him, so Idk if it’s AI. If he’s useless in their PT, then Tweetie should just leave.

[Loki Dokie]

i'd like to suggest we go FB+SS and if FB flips scum we flip Spamton btw

Fire wasn’t trying very hard to catch the chute for him, so Idk if it’s AI. If he’s useless in their PT, then Tweetie should just leave.

the point was that he was not trying in order to secure one for number first - note who was around everytime FB fake caught a chute

Oh right but then I don’t understand the connection with Spamton then. Wouldn’t that mean they were unaligned?

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: FB + SS

I still think my hood was pure and SS flips town but we’ll see.

[Loki Dokie]

I think all of Koba/MT/Wheme/Loki are spewed town from the number flip. Possibly tictac as well. I'll go into it if I have to here but just looking at even the beginning of their iso it kind of jumps out.

Like I said, last pair needs to be either STD/Wheme or you/tictac. I think if this is the final two we can’t lose.

[Loki Dokie]

i'd like to suggest we go FB+SS and if FB flips scum we flip Spamton btw

Fire wasn’t trying very hard to catch the chute for him, so Idk if it’s AI. If he’s useless in their PT, then Tweetie should just leave.

What does Tweetie have to do with it?

She’s paired with him.

[Loki Dokie]

I tried very hard to get a chute for spamton. how dare u lokie.
I had to fail 3 times to get one

???

[Loki Dokie]

can you explain wheme @RCE?
I still have them in PoE but if we can eliminate them too that makes it easier.

Nooo Wheme is town.

[Loki Dokie]

Maybe Spamton RCE Almost50 scum?

Dwlee im most convinced is town from my hood

Koba is town barring like them playing really well though

i havent read toog ever

I think RCE is super obvious town here.

[Loki Dokie]

i'd like to suggest we go FB+SS and if FB flips scum we flip Spamton btw

Fire wasn’t trying very hard to catch the chute for him, so Idk if it’s AI. If he’s useless in their PT, then Tweetie should just leave.

the point was that he was not trying in order to secure one for number first - note who was around everytime FB fake caught a chute

Oh right but then I don’t understand the connection with Spamton then. Wouldn’t that mean they were unaligned?

AND LITERALLY WHAT KIND OF LOGIC IS ME BEING AROUND AS SOMEONE ELSE WHEN I WAS GOING FOR CHUTES MEAN A GOD DAMN THING.

WHY WOULD I "FAKE" GOING FOR CHUTES. I LITERALLY GOT ONE AT END

Why are you addressing this to me?

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: FB + SS

I still think my hood was pure and SS flips town but we’ll see.

Then I am guessing you think FB is scum.

Assume SS is town. Then who is scum to you?
Assume SS is scum. Then who is scum to you?

For both questions you’re free to assume FB scum so that way it doesn’t become ridiculous.

Well he wasn’t tr you but if he’s scum, you’re probably not alligned.

FB!scum means I’d have to ISO him but confirms my Wheme tr because they don’t look like buddies. Obviously FB! scum, Koba!locktown but I’ve been hard tr them all game anyway.

I could possibly be wrong on Tweetie? Wasn’t thrilled with her reaction to Noraa flip but idk.

[Loki Dokie]

Dwlee99
Dkkoba
Loki Dokie
Toogeloo

Morning Tweet
Save the Dragons
tictac

Mama Ru
Almost50
Mathblade
Enchant

RCEnigma

Spamton
Something_Smart

Firebringer
Whemestar

Unordered between tiers

Yes I'm probably very wrong somewhere

I don’t want to be wrong on Wheme. I probably should have had STD pair with RCE then but tictac and RCE can endgame but if Mama is scum, then I might be wrong on him. :/

[Loki Dokie]

tictac and StD are the lowest in my townreads if it matters since they just dont clear the bar everyone else has.

But we need a T-T pair to endgame or we lose. STD got me a chute right away, don’t forget.

[Loki Dokie]

look at flips and look how number treated them.

for townies he either hard scumread them or hard townread them - the people i listed are people they were wishy washy on, or had ambiguity about. that is how I am reading their spew here.

Our only disagreements are Mama Ru and MT on this hypothesis. This can be revisited later. I think your idea that number treated all of his scum partners the same exact way is dubious though

Depends on how experienced he is, experienced scum don’t do that but noob scum might.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki we aren't stuck in these pairings forever. P sure it's just til two pairs are eliminated

We don’t actually know that though.

[Loki Dokie]

Slightly stream of conscious as I read...

I think Gamma vs Nora is SvT, idk which is which though. That means they should probably be on a team together imo.

The Nora townslip thing. I dunno, it feels genuine. Some of the pressure on them about it feels less genuine, particularly Koba + Gamma. I don't know if scum would back each other up that hard though. I also don't like Gamma's 321. Gonna say Gamma is a scumread.

Loki's early interactions with Nora were okay but later posts ping me a little. Couldn't tell you why without going back through.

Still not sure I get the logic behind everyone voting MT and letting her pick the first group. Makes more sense to me for us to decide as a group what each captain should do. Then if someone deviates, idk if that'd be confscum per se, but it would certainly be highly suspicious. I guess that's not mutually exclusive with everyone voting MT, to be fair.

But after a few more pages, seems like any and all voting strategy has been thrown out the window anyway.

I think MT's team should include Nora, Gamma, Loki, and Koba. In other words the main actors in the townslip interaction. There's at least 1 scum in there, maybe 2. More is unlikely I think.

[Loki Dokie]

HURT: Firebringer
HURT: Ydrasse

caught scum

I always thought this was really strange.

[Loki Dokie]

Slightly stream of conscious as I read...

I think Gamma vs Nora is SvT, idk which is which though. That means they should probably be on a team together imo.

The Nora townslip thing. I dunno, it feels genuine. Some of the pressure on them about it feels less genuine, particularly Koba + Gamma. I don't know if scum would back each other up that hard though. I also don't like Gamma's 321. Gonna say Gamma is a scumread.

Loki's early interactions with Nora were okay but later posts ping me a little. Couldn't tell you why without going back through.

Still not sure I get the logic behind everyone voting MT and letting her pick the first group. Makes more sense to me for us to decide as a group what each captain should do. Then if someone deviates, idk if that'd be confscum per se, but it would certainly be highly suspicious. I guess that's not mutually exclusive with everyone voting MT, to be fair.

But after a few more pages, seems like any and all voting strategy has been thrown out the window anyway.

I think MT's team should include Nora, Gamma, Loki, and Koba. In other words the main actors in the townslip interaction. There's at least 1 scum in there, maybe 2.

More is unlikely I think.

This post doesn’t look great for Tweetie. Why? Because scum obviously wants a member on every team.

[Loki Dokie]

It's not my wish to flip, it's my wish to flip someone else.

You might be town, you or Koba probably shouldn’t leave not unless it’s inevitable according to PoE and it isn’t yet. On the odd chance you two are a T-T pairing and I’m getting town vibes from you and I did initially tr Norwee, neither of you should leave anytime soon.

[Loki Dokie]

UNVOTE:

Ok i giv time

I wish i was paired with someone else.

Wait you unvoting on 4-5 votes when there's needed 9 votes to even elim pair?

... It's not even close.

Tweetie/Enchant unaligned. I lean town on Enchant.

[Loki Dokie]

If it's between Gamma and Mama, I still think Gamma's scum, but I also don't know what to make of Mama alignment-wise. Which I guess puts more points on Mama to be on the team than Gamma. I do townread tictac + Math, I haven't thought about STD too much, and outside of two specific events Loki's been okay.

Honestly, looking at this list and thinking about who would make up the 4th team if this 3rd one goes through, I think I do want to be on your team Loki. Because otherwise team 4 is out of me + Gamma/Mama + Loft + Taco + Almost + Nora. This is assuming Fire's current votes go through as is, which I guess isn't set in stone. Still, even with a little wiggle room, I don't like being on any combination of the team I just described.

I suppose that's not going to happen if you're captain though?

I don’t know, I don’t have my team 100% set in stone. But if you’re on it, that makes 7. I like this post, so I’d also factor in opinions from Tweetie, Koba and D’Arby as well.

What’s ironic is Koba proposed a team with both of us on it but you were then opposed. So what’s suddenly changed your read on me?

shouldn’t have q on your team

I forgot about this post, so I’m obviously wrong on toog then.

[Loki Dokie]

If there’s scum on Tryhard, it’s Tweetie.

[Loki Dokie]

Yeah uh this is an incredible red flag

I do not have a lot of time tonight so give at least till tomorrow please

Red flag for what?

Alright I probably should have picked Math instead of SS. I liked the least how he handled the whole Noraa thing. The best was STD followed by tictac.

[Loki Dokie]

Fire always leaves dance games. Neither Fire/SS wanted to be paired, so maybe we hit two scum?

[Loki Dokie]

Fire always leaves dance games. Neither Fire/SS wanted to be paired, so maybe we hit two scum?

What you mean always leaves? I though't it's first time.

No he has a history of always leaving his dance partners itrespective of his alignment. The fact that he isn’t doing that here, makes me think he and SS are buddies.

[Loki Dokie]

Huh... I thought it was first Squid Game on site. Or is there other dance games?

Can you give link atleast on one game?

Most of them were hosted by FakeGod and another Alisae. There is Dark Waltz III which doesn’t count because scum wasn’t allowed to leave.

I’m too tired rn but look up primarily FakeGod and for one game, Alisae and you will find them.

[Loki Dokie]

"FB is wrong because its FB"

That's not it. Not at all. The correct phrasing is FB is SCUM because its FB. Yeah, that's more like it.

FB is scum because he wanted to suicide on town!Koba but not scum!SS.

[Loki Dokie]

idk the pretending points feel like assuming the conclusion that koba is scum

But sure I think its within their range to act like they're done with the game and hope that ppl will listen to them after death

when in reality koba has no intention of giving up on the game. i mean obviously they've been putting a lot of effort in

I'd love to hear more about the kiba v norwee business tho. did kiba have the chance to suicide kill norwe?

Dwlee is town though I'm prettttyyy sold on

Lolwut? Koba is as town af! You I’m not so sure about.

[Loki Dokie]

Toog scum

M50 scum

Did you not see my post where I quoted Ydrasse telling me not to pick Q?

You mean A50 obviously and are you not going to give any explanation for that?

[Loki Dokie]

So my reads look something like:

Town: Loki Dokie, Firebringer, Mama Ru, DkKoba
Townlean: tictac, RCEnigma, Dwlee99, WhemeStar
Null: Mathblade, Save The Dragons, Morning Tweet
Scumlean: Enchant, Spamton, Almost50
Scum: Toogeloo

I feel like most of these are... pretty self-explanatory. But I can try my best to explain anything people want.

I would want to address the case on me but there basically isn't one. As far as I can tell there's no case against me at all and an incredibly shallow case against FB.

No, there not “self-explanatory” at all. You did the exact same shit when you were scum in a recent game. The only thing you’re actually missing here is accusing people of scumreading your playstyle.

[Loki Dokie]

So my reads look something like:

Town: Loki Dokie, Firebringer, Mama Ru, DkKoba
Townlean: tictac, RCEnigma, Dwlee99, WhemeStar
Null: Mathblade, Save The Dragons, Morning Tweet
Scumlean: Enchant, Spamton, Almost50
Scum: Toogeloo

I feel like most of these are... pretty self-explanatory. But I can try my best to explain anything people want.

I would want to address the case on me but there basically isn't one. As far as I can tell there's no case against me at all and an incredibly shallow case against FB.

Why me = Fry me as my sister says.

Any chance you’ll order these as I asked?

No Math, why would he, they’re “self-explanatory”, dontcha know.

How soon can we flip this?

[Loki Dokie]

I want to flip enchant. Town!enchant flips then we flip math and A50.

No, I think he’s town. Are you kidding me rn?

SS is obvscum here and he’s been pushing Math all game.

[Loki Dokie]

I want to flip enchant. Town!enchant flips then we flip math and A50.

Okay so was I right on my read of you

I guess he fooled all of us. :/

[Loki Dokie]

SS is obvscum here

Don't even give me this bullshit, you have been townreading me most of the game. What is causing you to go back on that?

I’ve explained it. Fire has a meta of leaving dance partners irrespective of alignment. He was willing to suicide on town!Koba but suddenly he’s not and you saying a completely wtf readslist is “self-explanatory” when it clearly isn’t, is textbook scum you.

[Loki Dokie]

SS, agree on 2vs2 tradeoff?

What do you mean?

Leave dance. If you are town, i leave as well.

Leave dance. If you are town, i leave as well.

I mean for one I'm never going to leave, even if I decide FB is scum, because the vote information is valuable. An exception would I guess be if I vote our pair and the wagon mysteriously vanishes and people refuse to explain why.

But regardless, if you're town I don't think you should be leaving, because Koba's one of my top townreads. If you're scum I mean sure you can leave but I doubt you ever actually would.

I actually expected answer "Aha, you are scum wanting 3 kills", but sounds plausable.
Imo i didn't really check FB history, but why you think FB doesh't leave like previous games?

Enchant is bleeding obvtown here.

[Loki Dokie]

I want to flip enchant. Town!enchant flips then we flip math and A50.

Are you scum claiming already?? If you expect Enchant to flip green, then why flip him (along with DkK)??

He’s frustrated his buddy Fire can’t suicide on Koba. Scum is in clear desperation mode now and leaving associatives everywhere.

[Loki Dokie]

Actually i wondered, what SS thinking.

Like, i am his scumread, walks to him and suggest to kill self with townread.
For this i kill self, with DkKuba. It's up to 3 townies.

It's very bad offer, i should have executed for this, and yet SS just suggest for me to not leave or "Leave if you are scum nah".

Idk about how human processing works, because i am not human, but i really expected from SS to launch on me, because if he really believes i am scum, he probably should search at any "scumtell" to condemn me.

It's very hm.

You definitely shouldn’t leave, you’re both obviously T - T.

[Loki Dokie]

I’ve explained it. Fire has a meta of leaving dance partners irrespective of alignment. He was willing to suicide on town!Koba but suddenly he’s not and you saying a completely wtf readslist is “self-explanatory” when it clearly isn’t, is textbook scum you.

I mean if Fire acts like he wants to leave but then doesn't then that might be indicative of scum-him, but I don't see how that would have anything to do with me.

And the readlist is pretty self-explanatory if you actually read my posts... most of those people I have talked about and/or they are consensus reads. Textbook scum me is not giving any reads, especially under heavy pressure. What scumgames of mine are you referencing?

I actually can't ever think of a scumgame where I've done this thing that's supposedly "textbook scum me".

You’re memory needs refreshing then or you’re just straight up lying about that. Doesn’t really matter because I remember it but if your list actually made sense, I would probably consider it to be nia but now RCE suddenly wants to lim Koba partner who seems really townie and earlier Tweetie wanted to suicide on Spam (whatever they are). It looks scummy people are trying to derail this and the fact that you still tr Fire after all of this is also scum indicative.

[Loki Dokie]

How was I suggesting you were planning days in advance

I’m at least glad you didn’t pair with RCE. I’m sr anyone who is trying to flip Enchant because they are chomping at the bit to kill Koba.

Wheme is probably scum too.

[Loki Dokie]

You’re memory needs refreshing then

Then refresh it...?

ISO yourself in your most recent scumgames. I have a good memory.

[Loki Dokie]

Doesn’t really matter because I remember it but if your list actually made sense, I would probably consider it to be nia

Which parts don't make sense? Just the FB read?

I didn't see why scum-FB would ever try to pair with me, to be honest.

He was eager to suicide on Koba but apparently not you, despite having a history - irrespective of alignment - of leaving his dance partners.

[Loki Dokie]

i really expected from SS to launch on me, because if he really believes i am scum, he probably should search at any "scumtell" to condemn me.

Why would I do that? Most things that scum post aren't even indicative of scum.

I think this whole investigation is +town for what it's worth.

Paranoing Koba on Enchant, great move but I see through it.

[Loki Dokie]

I am good with a Fire/SS flip now. I have some thoughts regarding who to wagon next as I think Dwlee and I disagree on that.

I don’t think enough people are participating in the ordered lists so I can’t do my catch scum trick.

I can’t respond to all I want to at work but I think we’re all migrating towards next flips and there’s no defenders so this reeks of one or both being scum and scum not burning cred.

VOTE: Fire/SS

All that matters now I think is which.

I think both. SS is uberscummy and Fire is going against his history of leaving every dance partner in every dance game he’s been able to do so.

[Loki Dokie]

I kinda think S_S has been more townie in his responses but I still like firebringer for scum

How? He posts a readslist that makes no sense then calls that “self-explanatory?”

[Loki Dokie]

Loki I'm honestly still a little worried about enchant but I dont want to flip koba

Yeah. Fire wanted to, now RCE. Scum is getting desperate now, it’s obvious scum will do anything to derail this flip.

[Loki Dokie]

I want to flip enchant. Town!enchant flips then we flip math and A50.

Are you scum claiming already?? If you expect Enchant to flip green, then why flip him (along with DkK)??

It helps us hone in. Unfortunately. I think it is EXTREMELY important to get to the bottom of how scum voted in the anonymous elim. Enchant being town destroys this narrative that scum targeted Nora specifically. Because either one would have flipped town in Nora/norwee.

It’s totally proscum to flip Koba.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki I'm honestly still a little worried about enchant but I dont want to flip koba

I definitely don’t want to flip Koba. Enchants a hard read for me and would rather wait and see what next game.

I would prefer a MT elim I think assuming FB/SS isn’t double town

Not opposed to that but she will come in and leave before we flip FB/SS, like she already threatened too. So I want this first.

[Loki Dokie]

Never out alts ever

Loki is literally going "I have evidence you're scum but I won't share it to keep my alt intact."

That's an outside influence. It's doing something within the game for an out-of-game reason.

I'm speaking as a player here, not as a mod, but it's shady at best and against the spirit of the site rules at worst.

That isn’t against site rules and I don’t owe you info on my alt.

[Loki Dokie]

Meta tells in completed games are perfectly valid and nothing remotely oog about that. What you are doing otoh is an invasion of my privacy and I don’t owe you or anyone else that info.

[Loki Dokie]

That isn’t against site rules and I don’t owe you info on my alt.

I don't owe you a serious consideration of your arguments. I'm trying to give it anyway, but you're not making it easy.

Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable

This is from game specific rules. Nowhere does it say, players who are playing on a different account can’t do this or are even required to have even been a player in a specific game. The only criteria is that they cannot be ongoing.

[Loki Dokie]

hopefully enchant doesnt just leave because now i want to stay

VOTE: FB + SS

Someone mentioned the FB intentionally flubbing to give to Number thing and now that we have the flipped red we should be absolutely going off of that.

VOTE: FB +S_S

I very much concur (and have just told Toog that's where I want to go). In addition to my case on FB I also lean Scum on S_S (and I have no idea why they paired up together tbh). If I'm wrong on one I'm right about the other I think

SS what’s scummy about this?

[Loki Dokie]

The objection is that if sharing your meta would improve town's odds of winning, then you are not playing to win by keeping it secret.

But whatever, I'm not going to belabor it. Just voicing my disapproval.

No offence but that’s total bs.

[Loki Dokie]

The objection is that if sharing your meta would improve town's odds of winning, then you are not playing to win by keeping it secret.

But whatever, I'm not going to belabor it. Just voicing my disapproval.

No offence but that’s total bs.

Agreed. Consider SS like pretty much flipped scum now. The fact he’s trying to use his mod status as some kind of leverage sickens me.

I regret not picking you now.:/.

[Loki Dokie]

hopefully enchant doesnt just leave because now i want to stay

VOTE: FB + SS

Someone mentioned the FB intentionally flubbing to give to Number thing and now that we have the flipped red we should be absolutely going off of that.

VOTE: FB +S_S

I very much concur (and have just told Toog that's where I want to go). In addition to my case on FB I also lean Scum on S_S (and I have no idea why they paired up together tbh). If I'm wrong on one I'm right about the other I think

SS what’s scummy about this?

@SS

[Loki Dokie]

hopefully enchant doesnt just leave because now i want to stay

VOTE: FB + SS

Someone mentioned the FB intentionally flubbing to give to Number thing and now that we have the flipped red we should be absolutely going off of that.

VOTE: FB +S_S

I very much concur (and have just told Toog that's where I want to go). In addition to my case on FB I also lean Scum on S_S (and I have no idea why they paired up together tbh). If I'm wrong on one I'm right about the other I think

SS what’s scummy about this?

@SS

Some reason you keep ignoring this?

[Loki Dokie]

I think you’re being honest on your thoughts but it’s a scum angle. Scum don’t always lie. That’s why I think Noraa was a null kill. No reason to lie when you don’t have to

Yes of course, but I obviously wouldn't be lying as town either, so it shouldn't factor into your read on me, right?

It isn’t about the binary truth or lie. It’s about why you’re saying what you’re saying.

You also reek of desperation. Why are you trying to convince me of all people? Because you can’t convince the people pushing hard and hope I fall on my face again. That’s all this game has been. Scum think I am an easy victim and it sucks.

I’m close to the point of saying wake me up when this flips because I have no intention of switching my vote.

[Loki Dokie]

Event

Four:

Part II Resolution

It is clear after some time that two dancers are just not in tune with everything else,

It's probably because Fire Bringer has decided to break dance like a drunk sailor,

and Something_Smart has decided to do the Robot.

Either way the guards lead the pair off to a better place.

Firebringer has left the dance during Part II! He was aligned with the

Mafia

[/b]

Something_Smart has left the dance during Part II! He was aligned with the

Mafia

[/b]

Aha! Knew it.

[Loki Dokie]

mathblade and a50 should be in the top tier smh

Leave me alone

I had RCE as scum before any of y'all

VOTE: RCE

[Loki Dokie]

Why do you think wheme is scum

RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.

[Loki Dokie]

Now here's a theory (out of thin air) which is NO BETTER than the ones I've been shooting down (actually it DOES feel a bit better from my own PoV):

Norwee is Scum (Sorry Enchant). MT is Scum. Scum thus knew at least 3 votes were cast on Norwee, and they saw Noraa was a contender, so they all voted there. Some "claimed" not to have done so (ex: NormalQ) so that the ones that did vote Noraa would take more heat.

Another -altered- theory is MT is Town and that PT was pure, so Scum didn't know Norwee was being voted and that ALSO means Norwee/Enchant isn't necessarily Scum (this why I say the whole theory is no better than nay other, because I don't know if "we're trying" is pure or not, so I don't know if Scum knew Norwee was available or not)

I think enchant has been obv towning and he just owned SS

Wheme might be town.

[Loki Dokie]

Why do you think wheme is scum

RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.

maybe trust the person who has pushed 3 flpped scum and spearheaded it on the veto on rce right now ?

leave rce and MT today.

Why? I hard tr STD and am not sold on Wheme!scum.

[Loki Dokie]

Now here's a theory (out of thin air) which is NO BETTER than the ones I've been shooting down (actually it DOES feel a bit better from my own PoV):

Norwee is Scum (Sorry Enchant). MT is Scum. Scum thus knew at least 3 votes were cast on Norwee, and they saw Noraa was a contender, so they all voted there. Some "claimed" not to have done so (ex: NormalQ) so that the ones that did vote Noraa would take more heat.

Another -altered- theory is MT is Town and that PT was pure, so Scum didn't know Norwee was being voted and that ALSO means Norwee/Enchant isn't necessarily Scum (this why I say the whole theory is no better than nay other, because I don't know if "we're trying" is pure or not, so I don't know if Scum knew Norwee was available or not)

I think enchant has been obv towning and he just owned SS

Wheme might be town.

This post makes me unsure on Wheme. Obvtown reading Enchant especially this phase is protown.

[Loki Dokie]

Why do you think wheme is scum

RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.

maybe trust the person who has pushed 3 flpped scum and spearheaded it on the veto on rce right now ?

leave rce and MT today.

Why? I hard tr STD and am not sold on Wheme!scum.

This is where I am at.

I think MT is more likely scum and MT or RCE is much better imho or Spam because there was like no resistance to a double elim.

+1

I’m glad we’re mindmelding and I <3 you Koba but I always trust my reads before anyone else’s and Math is mindmelding with me.

Wheme also seemed pretty annoyed with Fire for delaying getting the chute for Spam and I don’t think it looked like scum theatre.

I don’t believe scum would be okay with any alltown hood and that post I quoted from Q where he wanted Noraa, Gamma, me, Koba and Tweetie strongly points to Tweetie as a buddy. I think everyone else on team Tryhard is town. And if we’re still confident on Wheme!scum, it can wait until next phase.

I think both Tweetie and RCE have more scum equity than Wheme nut mostly, I hard tr STD. I don’t sr tictac either but STD has been super active and solvey.

[Loki Dokie]

Okay so I expected that response but

Wheme wasn't around either. MT was and voted the wagon

So why is wheme town and mt and Spamton scum off that info

I think StD is town

MT/Spam and RCE/Tictac are all in my PoE

I would rather go for another possible double elim then one likely town and one maybe scum.

I’m 100% mindmelding with Math. Unless you’re sold on both Tweetie and RCE!town, I’m not flipping STD.

[Loki Dokie]

Noraa im sorry.

shit like this is TMI

I don’t doubt that I just want to go Wheme after the dance when StD isn’t a casualty.

+1

I don’t want to flip STD, can I make that any clearer?

[Loki Dokie]

If wheme/STD is S/S I think we have to flip mathblade for this

STD and Math are both bleeding obvtown. That should be beyond obvious after SS flip. *smdh*

[Loki Dokie]

you mindmelding with a math who hasn't flipped any scum themselves is a bad sign not a good one

I had doubts on Math until it became beyond obvious that SS was scum, then I hard tr Math. It’s not rocket science. I’m really not appreciating the discredit.

[Loki Dokie]

If wheme/STD is S/S I think we have to flip mathblade for this

Like if Wheme/StD is SvS sure I deserve it but I am pretty sure both are not scum. Like MT Spam RCE and Tictac are all pretty much required PoE elims.

I don’t want to elim a could be scum and a very likely town over a possible SvS

STD is not scum. I strongly believe that.

[Loki Dokie]

like its all projection.

i think its perfectly reasonable that the case is that MT is town from all angles.

your theory requires assumptions of play that arent reasonable to be 100% accurate.

Lmao wtf is this Koba? It’s like almost a foregone conclusion MT scum.

I don’t see how you’re getting that

Numbers doesnt endorse a all town group. That doesn’t happen

+1

I’m really not appreciating being bullied for my opinions. It’s extremely upsetting. If I’m going to be disrespected I’ll self-vote because I didn’t sigh up to be a bot.

[Loki Dokie]

If wheme/STD is S/S I think we have to flip mathblade for this

STD and Math are both bleeding obvtown. That should be beyond obvious after SS flip. *smdh*

This I won’t do StD today. I will do RCE or MT pairing today.

It’s insane to me how if you suddenly decided not to go along witt the program, your alignment gets doubted because apparently having a mind is now apparently scummy.

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry I'm gonna have to go with Dwlee and Koba on this one I still dont know how you're getting +scum on me

That team isn’t pure.

Simple as that.

Probability says so and scum spewed so.

Feelings are irrelevant.

Logic > Feelings.

Feelings is how you die to scum

Draws five random names out of a hat

Probability says they can't all be town, better get to limming koba, Loki, me, a50, and toog

All town is what I think.

[Loki Dokie]

like its all projection.

i think its perfectly reasonable that the case is that MT is town from all angles.

your theory requires assumptions of play that arent reasonable to be 100% accurate.

Lmao wtf is this Koba? It’s like almost a foregone conclusion MT scum.

I don’t see how you’re getting that

Numbers doesnt endorse a all town group. That doesn’t happen

and maybe he does as wifom?

your logic sucks.

you are still relying on shitty assumptions that are not rooted in actual logic but fallacy.

Agree to disagree.

I think I am logical right now and calling logic a fallacy doesn’t make it true.

[Loki Dokie]

Koba and me are a power duo rn

A50 is power guy and he wanted RCE

We can be a power trio then.

[Loki Dokie]

Not in the best headspace atm dont expect much from me

I think I want tweetie and spamton at this point but I want to look back at tweetie (nothing to look back wrt spamton) before I do anything

If people really think its wheme I could just leave but I'm not convinced yet I want to hear what he has to say and look back through his iso a bit

Koba and Dwelee are both pocketed so good luck with that.

[Loki Dokie]

Spoiler:

Oh I read some pages while I was being lazy and delaying getting up from bed

Loki giving me bad vibes

Loki gives me huge deep scum vibes

DUDE IDK ITS VIBES

fire ringer who should I vote

VOTE: Firebringer

People not voting for captain. Please vote for captain.
Lets get this phase over so we can start the games. We don't need 100 pages pregames

FORFEIT TO THE CLOWNS WE ARE GOING TO WIN

I AM GETTING ALL THE PARACHUTES FOR TEAM CLOWN

This is a parachute

Take Parachute for Firebringer

Noraa im sorry.

??? WE SAVE ALL OF TEAM CLOWN

Kkoba its okay to be jealous of team clown.

Whos scum in my team?

This is in the mafia forum not the LSG forum. This isn't survivor or big brother.

We haven't had any elim's so far though soooooo

If pooky didnt add an elim stage that we can control by majority it would be terrible design for a mafia game and i would be upset.

But you won't get to the elim stage if you don't get a parachute.

good observation sherlock
Whats your reads on the people on my team?

I don't have reads off the top of my head

Here's what I do think though, theres probably 1 scum on my team. I doubt theres 2 and I'd say its near impossible for there to be 3.

If my team of 5 makes it through I like the odds that we have.

And I think me trying to save everyone for my team gets me town cred so when an elim stage does come ppl will remember this

I think scum are more than likely to save themselves and not really go for other parachutes unless other scum are on their team.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY OTHER POINT

I don't think me being partners with firebringer if he is scum doesn't really make sense so thats another + town for me

Scum most likely split up their team. Having a full team get 5 parachutes seems like the way to go to me.

I strongarmed overall team compositions what are you on about?
Or are you claiming scum with firebringer?

We followe ur team comps?

The thing not playing to win con is blatantly grabbing parachutes for people in the poe or encouraging others to do so

How many scum do you think are in team clown?

this is a parachute

Take Parachute For Mathblade

This is scummy as fuck

Fire are you gonna try to get parachute for spam or should I get off my phone and go to computer

FIRE ARE U TROLLING OR SCUM OR WHAT

U HAVE ONE JOB

FIRE WHAT THE FUCKK

Gj fire you redeemed yourself

Ok A50/Mathblade are 100% scum here

I think Dwlee's parachute grab for toog was huge scum flag

Im pretty sure a50 dwlee toog math are scum

Dwlee why do you townread mathblade

FIREBRINGER CAN SELECT WHO I DANCE WITH HE IS MY CAPTAIN

mf just read this dudes iso

if you townread wheme you can join team clown

Next phase we can flip Wheme but STD is town and very actively engaged.

[Loki Dokie]

wheme is so towny guys omg


unless you are trying to make the argument this is "proof of no tmi" then get lost


dude telegraphed the fire/number strategy so hard.

spamton is spewed town from that sequence too.


just fucking say you want to vote RCE because of playstyle instead of pretending otherwise.

I’m not saying what you want me to say if untrue. If you want to post for me, feel free to say whatever tf you like. You’re trying to bully me rather than convince me and being nasty to me won’t change my mind.

[Loki Dokie]

I understand why Norwee replaced out now.

[Loki Dokie]

Ok A50/Mathblade are 100% scum here

I think Dwlee's parachute grab for toog was huge scum flag

Okay Wheme is town and yeah, Math and toog are very likely scum here. You maybe right about Dweele because he should have saved D’Arby obviously, he was bleeding obvtown. A50? not sure but if he’s familiar with Marh’s scumgame, it is suspicious that he blindly trusted him. so maybe?

Anyway, Mama is my only strong living tr on Queen. No clue about Q.

ok loki but maybe when you stop sorting here based on how much someone agrees with you like here i will trust you more

????

I don’t even know what you mean but I’d really appreciate it if you’d knock off the condescension. Thanks.

[Loki Dokie]

like seriously i reached SS scum because of my flip on RCE's slot - and nearly no one else was really seeing that until SS started crumbling.

UNVOTE:

for now but I really do think you’re wrong about Tweetie and no I obviously can’t prove it but I wouldn’t be at all shocked if I’m right on her because I haven’t felt good about her posting since Noraa flipped. Tweetie is extremely good at deep wolfing. There’s a reason I hard tr you and Dwelee but not her and I trust my reads on that.

[Loki Dokie]

no. you explain why you thought FB was town and a50/mathblade were scum

Why? I obviously don’t think that now. And I probably already did that att. I’m not wasting my time explaining reads I don’t agree with anymore. It’s beyond stupid.

[Loki Dokie]

i was speaking to wheme, not you.

Oh sorry then.

[Loki Dokie]

also enchant said something interesting about team clown chat, I asked him some questions in our PT about it and i got some interesting answers.

I await RCE to explain their view of the gamestate when they get here.

Oh really, I’m definitely looking forward to that.

[Loki Dokie]

Clown Leader.

... Circus Director.

Really, did mod pick these names or captains?

All Captains got to pick their team names and color.

[Loki Dokie]

ALSO FROM WHAT FIRE SAID IN CLOWN PT I THINK RCE IS TOWN

What did Fire say to make you think RCE is town and could you please not post in allcaps? It reads like you’re shouting at us.

[Loki Dokie]

DOnt lim me yet im working on paraphrasing my pt to STD and I can do it here too if you guys want

Yes of course do it here as well because that way we don’t have to wait for STD to be online.

[Loki Dokie]

Event

Six:

Trust Fall

There's a certain sense of dread as you approach the final room,

What crazy wild shit is Pooky going to come up with for the final game?

Machine guns? Rocket Launchers? Penguins with Machine Guns? Cows with Rocket Launchers?

Hopefully Jingle kept him from doing anything too fucking crazy.

A very excited bear bounces up and down as he greets you at the final room.

"Well this is the end! Get pumped up because this is for all the marbles! Haha"

Game Rules:

Players may trust each other with

Trust: Player X

Mafia may not trust each other.

The Game will end after a pair of players trusts each other - if this pair is T-T, the game will end in a town win. If this pair is S-T, the game will end in a scum win.

The Deadline will be Three Days. If we hit the deadline without a pairing, the Mafia will win.

Currently Alive

Almost50
Loki Dokie
DkKoba
Save The Dragons
Morning Tweet

How is it that not one of Dwelee/Math survived?

And without flips, we have no clue how many scum are left.

Mama believed A50 and STD were likely town, so my theory is we leave out one of Tweetie/Koba and probably win this. Unfortunately that means that one of us three probably needs to stay behind.

[Loki Dokie]

trust: loki

I’m not trusting anyone until we figure out who should stay behind and you lost my trust by shading me when I disagreed with you on STD/Wheme, remember?

So I’m not rushing anything.

[Loki Dokie]

it seems like MathBlade was scum to me

It is possible scum Wheme sacrificed for a scum Dragons but if Wheme is town then i guess Dragons could still be scum

Pretty sure Enchant was town and Koba

I'm pretty sure if Mama was scum and Loki town then Mama wouldn't let Loki live to here. It's probable that Loki is town yeah?

And Toog same thing as the Wheme/Dragons thing. But a lot of ppl have been saying A50 is town and if so that'd make Toog town

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Probable? Do my an SS interactions ever look like scum theatre to you?

Obviously Mama’s town, no way would I be alive otherwise.

RC believed Wheme was town, so I’m guessing he thought STD was probably less miselimable.

I think two of me/A50/STD should leave and one stay behind because as long as one of Tweetie/Koba don’t escape we probably win this.

So, I’m most suss on you two.

[Loki Dokie]

Nah it aint me

i would do Loki and A50

Maybe it’s just Koba then?

[Loki Dokie]

As it turns out Spammy was town, I'm assuming MathBlade killed town!Dwlee

Two left

I was shocked that not one of them survived. If Noraa was right, we’ll never hear the end of it. I thought both were town but Dweelee was my strongest tr out of the pairings.

[Loki Dokie]

Apparently it's you/me as scum Loki

In any case, the pair is gonna be Dk/A50 as A50 has expressed he will accept Dk at any time and I already confirm towned A50

Take that back, because you just scumclaimed with this,

I’m spewed town by both Q and SS, don’t even try this.

[Loki Dokie]

Apparently it's you/me as scum Loki

In any case, the pair is gonna be Dk/A50 as A50 has expressed he will accept Dk at any time and I already confirm towned A50

Take that back, because you just scumclaimed with this,

I’m spewed town by both Q and SS, don’t even try this.

Aitocorrect is wonky.


I leant to say, don’t even try that, not take that back,

[Loki Dokie]

Apparently it's you/me as scum Loki

In any case, the pair is gonna be Dk/A50 as A50 has expressed he will accept Dk at any time and I already confirm towned A50

Take that back, because you just scumclaimed with this,

I’m spewed town by both Q and SS, don’t even try this.

Why are you telling that to me? I'm not the one who called you scum, everyone else told me that you're scum

Anyine reading my interactions with SS/Q with functioning braincells would see that I’m town so whomever is scum is obviously pushing this crap.

I’m willing to stay behind with you/Koba if anyone who’s town has had a lobotomy recently.

Like whether it’s just you and/or Koba, we win this so long as one of you doesn’t escape, So I’m good.

[Loki Dokie]

I still kinda think it's Math/STD/Wheme but at the minimum i think it's probably STD cause im not really convinced of Loki being scum

However I am convinced 1-2 of A50/Dk are town (well, A50 must be town now) and A50 is adamant he will only trust Koba. So thats that

Then I’m not leaving in that case. If A50 wants to gamethrow it’s on him.

[Loki Dokie]

Again i have no idea why you're directing that at me Loki

I believe that either/both you/Koba are scum and I don’t think A50 should leave with Koba. He should probably leave with STD since I think I’m more likely to figure it out.

Someone said that Koba’s scum meta was to shade anyone who disagrees with them, so something’s up with A50 trusting only Koba because my interactions with both Q/SS spew me locktown, so I don’t know what to make of that because I’d expect town!A50 to be a lot smarter but then,

But he was obviously wrong on Mamma so eh?

But Mama tr both him and STD, so.

[Loki Dokie]

A50 and Koba said you're scum with me

A50 is currently confirm town by virtue of not accepting my trust.

Koba is currently either going to accept me and win for scum or not accept, confirming them as town and making us win since both A50 and Koba are confirm town

I also rejected Koba’s but they untrusted me right after I posted that.

Something is really fishy here.

Because SS fucking tried to out my main by threatening me with oog crap and Q put me and Gamma in the same category so if he wants to be an idiot, that’s on him.

[Loki Dokie]

trust: loki

I’m not trusting anyone until we figure out who should stay behind and you lost my trust by shading me when I disagreed with you on STD/Wheme, remember?

So I’m not rushing anything.

Are people not reading?

[Loki Dokie]

I don't need THAT to trust DkK. They are my TOP TR. I already said that I would accept their trust if offered to me.

a "you have my permission" would have been all that was necessary. even just a simple "yes" would suffice

Trust: DkKoba

Don’t do this please.

[Loki Dokie]

I don't need THAT to trust DkK. They are my TOP TR. I already said that I would accept their trust if offered to me.

a "you have my permission" would have been all that was necessary. even just a simple "yes" would suffice

Trust: DkKoba

Don’t do this please.

Untrust this. I really think Koba’s scum here.

[Loki Dokie]

For what it's worth i dont think you're scum Loki

I also don't think A50 or Koba are scum

A50 will only pair with Koba or STD from what i can tell. I am making him choose Koba by confirm towning Koba

I don't know if there's any other play for me to do at this point

I think Koba is scum. Mama warned me that Koba shouldn’t be tr based on who they’ve red flipped. They shaded me for disagreeing with them on the dance flips. I don’t believe for one second town!Koba doesn’t think I’m town here.

They probably untrusted me because they damn well knew I would obvtown when they didn’t retract it. I just can’t believe that anyone is buying it.

[Loki Dokie]

They're really not scum no

But my preference was A50 and you pairing yes

If A50 ever shows any inclination to pair with Dragon I'm just going to trust Koba again

Why? Mama thought both of them were toxn?

If you’re town here and don’t want to gamethrow, I’m begging you and A50 not to trust Koba.

[Loki Dokie]

Also weren't you assuming I was scum?

At least one of you/Koba has to be because of Q. He wanted a team with me, Noraa, Gamma, Koba and you on iy. I know it’s not me, so no freaking way are both of you town here based off of that.

[Loki Dokie]

Also weren't you assuming I was scum?

At least one of you/Koba has to be because of Q. He wanted a team with me, Noraa, Gamma, Koba and you on iy. I know it’s not me, so no freaking way are both of you town here based off of that.

Why does Q make that post if both you/Koba are town? Do you honestly think Q would be down with an alltown team?

[Loki Dokie]

You all and your numberQ associatives i swear to god

Because it makes perfect sense. No way would Q propose an alltown team. Why would he? Scum needs to ideally have a member on every team, so they can monitor what goes on in the PTs.

So that leaves me/you/Koba in that scenario and I know it’s not me, so if you’re telling the truth about it not being you, that only leaves Koba.

[Loki Dokie]

I'm going to let A50 make his own decision just so im not the one yelled at if Koba is scum then

Will i stick to that statement maybe im very impatient

pedit: YES

YES I DO

I strongly believe they are. When I disagreed with them on STD/Wheme, the began shading me rather than trying to convince me I was wrong. Town!Koba would have tried to reason with me first. Also they 100% know this is my town meta here, so I know they were being disingenuous with that.

[Loki Dokie]

A.) Scum did not know what the teams were for

B.) NumberQ is just one scum, just one scum being okay with it is fine

C.) NumberQ was not a town leader his opinion didnt really matter that much

D.) SCUM DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAMS THEY HAD NO INCENTIVE TO BREAK APART A TOWN ONEEEEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That stage was RVS!

Why would he not have wanted a buddy on every team? So what is your theory behind him making that post then?

[Loki Dokie]

Math said I was scum based on the same logic and it makes no sense at all and we should not be reading people in this Xylo based off of something number said in RVS

Everything scum does has an agenda and I think that post likely points to one of you/me/Koba being a buddy and I knox it’s not me, so I don’t understand your reasoning?

Mama tr both A50 and STD so I’m fine being left behind trying to figure out you and Koba but I think it has to be Koba. I think Fire and Koba we’re probably distancing.

Fire made this whole push about pairing with Koba to throw us off and then he pairs with SS?

And SS’ was clearly not going down without a fight. He even tried to bs threaten me with oog crap to,pressure me to out my main, so perhaps it wasn’t coordinated then? Idk.

[Loki Dokie]

Ur killing me no scum would not have cared to that extent and even if they did just ONE scum player voicing approval doesnt mean jack

I swear

Ask Number after the game if he gave even the slightest fuck about whether an all-town team existed i would bet my life's savings he didnt care at all

Why? See unless we’re all wrong on either both A50/STD and I don’t think so because Mama made it a point of casing A50 first and I strongly believe STD is town, so I’m okay shipping A50/STD but I think if he trusts Koba and I’m right, then that majorly puts us at a grave disadvantage because I believe Koba’s scum and stuff RCE, Wheme and Fire’s posts alk point to this, so A50 is gamethrowing if he leaves with Koba because I know he’s wrong on me.

[Loki Dokie]

A50 if you don’t want to be the reason town loses, untrust Koba.

If you seriously need a building to fall on your head to see that I’m town, at least trust STD.

I swore to Mama I would do my best to make sure town wins this, so don’t you be the reason we lose please.

[Loki Dokie]

im not against flipping mama, dont flip wheme. Loki, make sure wheme doesnt flip. you have one job.

Leave dance

RCE is another player here who is very familiar with my meta and while I obviously can’t save Wheme, I can trust that Wheme probably trusted my STD read.

Mama tr both Wheme and STD and STD’s posting in our PT looked really townie to me.

[Loki Dokie]

I have so much faith in my STD read that I am willing to be left behind in the extremely unlikely chance I’m wrong on that.

[Loki Dokie]

trust: a50

final scumteam guess:
Dwlee+loki+mama ru

If not:
MT + dwlee + spamton

@a50 im ready

I just wanted to see how loki acted to confirm/deny my theory

If the team is a50 and MT GG

If I’m wrong on both you and A50, my strongest tr here is STD. I’m willing to bet the game on STD!town.

[Loki Dokie]

For what it's worth i dont think you're scum Loki

I also don't think A50 or Koba are scum

A50 will only pair with Koba or STD from what i can tell. I am making him choose Koba by confirm towning Koba

I don't know if there's any other play for me to do at this point

I think Koba is scum. Mama warned me that Koba shouldn’t be tr based on who they’ve red flipped. They shaded me for disagreeing with them on the dance flips. I don’t believe for one second town!Koba doesn’t think I’m town here.

They probably untrusted me because they damn well knew I would obvtown when they didn’t retract it. I just can’t believe that anyone is buying it.

I flipped 3 scum and opposed pretty much every town flip and have been spewed town by several scum

Mama told me that wasn’t a good reason to tr you, so I’m assuming she must have some experience playing with scum!you.

[Loki Dokie]

@Loki:

First off: I didn't even offer my trust to anyone, so can't "untrust" anyone.

Second: I've let you do your thing (merely to get you to enjoy the game). Now go back to the event post by Pooky and tell me what all this "leave X behind comes from", because you sound like you think there will be TWO pairs, when it clearly says ONE PAIR. The first [air to be formed will decide the game. Period.

Third: I've played DkK as BOTH alignments. If I'm wrong about them here they certainly deserved the win.

Accept DkK trust

Thanks for gamethrowing. If we lose, I’m blaming that on you because you deserve it. One of you is probably flipping scum because this trust shouldn’t be happening if both of you are town.

[Loki Dokie]

No troll im town

Then it probably means A50 played you because he accepted you way too fast.

[Loki Dokie]

No troll im town

Then it probably means A50 played you because he accepted you way too fast.

I know A50 isn’t stupid so he just ignores every single goddamned thing I’ve posted and just from what should be his pov if town and just risks gamethrowing like this?

I would expect that whomever is town in this pairing to have at least an iota of common sense here.

[Loki Dokie]

A50 if you are scum you played amazing

Mt u were scum or na?

I’m going to be absolutely furious with you if A50’s scum here.

[Loki Dokie]

Event

Six:

Resolution

DkKoba and Almost50 have formed a Trust Pair!

Spoiler: Result

Almost50 is aligned with

Town

!

DkKoba is aligned with

Town

!


Squid Game is

over in a Town Victory!

Congratulations to the town of:

Gamma Emerald
Loftwing
DkKoba
Morning Tweet
Loki Dokie
WhemeStar
Toogeloo
tictac
DArby
RCEnigma
Enchant
Almost50
Spamton
Dwlee99
Noraa

for winning!


Condolences to the scum team of:

Mama Ru
Mathblade
NumberQ
Save the Dragons
Something_Smart
Firebringer

Dafuq? Why did Mama save me then? That makes absolutely no sense. Sorry Koba, Tweetie.

So Noraa was right. STD, how could I have been so wrong on you? This is totes embarrassing.

[Loki Dokie]

this was the result of event three voting:

So Mama and STD lied about their votes.

[Loki Dokie]

Dwelee was super obvtown anf town!Math would have definitely yielded to him but why does scum!Mama yield to me? That makes absolutely no sense.

I would have 100% killed me like srsly wtf?

I was locktown so I figured if Mama was scum, no way I live, so I just don’t get it.

[Loki Dokie]

Dwelee was super obvtown anf town!Math would have definitely yielded to him but why does scum!Mama yield to me? That makes absolutely no sense.

I would have 100% killed me like srsly wtf?

I was locktown so I figured if Mama was scum, no way I live, so I just don’t get it.

[Loki Dokie]

Because of my STD read is absolutely the only thing I can think of. I was sure I was dying and when Mama saved me, I thought she just had to be town, so not quite sure how I feel about that.

I’m still shocked that we actually won this scumsided af game.

And anyone who read Q/SS interactions with me who couldn’t tell I was town, I have no words.

[Loki Dokie]

I’m glad we won but I would have much preferred you had just killed me Mama.

[Loki Dokie]

I think the scum team had a better chance if they just piled onto Koba in Event Three rather than kill Noraa

Koba is a beast =]

I hard tr them until the bs shaded me in event 4.

[Loki Dokie]

Looks like Norwe lost the bet to Dwlee.

Which was I’m assuming Koba’s alignment? Well I wikk trust my Norwee read > Koba’s going forward.

Again Norwee, I honestly didn’t mean anything bad, it’s just that I was sick of hearing you and Wheme go on and on and about the goddamned parachutes.

Also no way would scum!me not have immediatly trusted Koba, so really don’t knox what you all we’re smoking.

[Loki Dokie]

Looks like Norwe lost the bet to Dwlee.

Which was I’m assuming Koba’s alignment? Well I wikk trust my Norwee read > Koba’s going forward.

Again Norwee, I honestly didn’t mean anything bad, it’s just that I was sick of hearing you and Wheme go on and on and about the goddamned parachutes.

Also no way would scum!me not have immediatly trusted Koba, so really don’t knox what you all we’re smoking.

[Loki Dokie]

Dwelee was super obvtown anf town!Math would have definitely yielded to him but why does scum!Mama yield to me? That makes absolutely no sense.

I would have 100% killed me like srsly wtf?

I was locktown so I figured if Mama was scum, no way I live, so I just don’t get it.

Well the towncred Mama got from that helped you solidify a TR on STD. So if it had worked on the others it would have been a big brain play.

But Mama made it sound like Wheme was the much easier to read option. Yeah, looking stupid always totally makes my day.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki its fine bc we only needed to have 2 townies that hard trusted

I think it should have been beyond obvious it was me based solely off of SS/Q/me interactions, so I should have been everyone’s #1 tr based off of that but good no one listened to my STD read and had you tried to convince me rather than throw garbage shade on me, you might have actually convinced me to vote your way.

[Loki Dokie]

Because of my STD read is absolutely the only thing I can think of. I was sure I was dying and when Mama saved me, I thought she just had to be town, so not quite sure how I feel about that.

I’m still shocked that we actually won this scumsided af game.

And anyone who read Q/SS interactions with me who couldn’t tell I was town, I have no words.

I dunno, I think it was pretty town-sided tbh. The only remotely scum sided game was the first one.

How do you figure that? Game 2 was scumsided af.

[Loki Dokie]

Nah, it was that We're Trying was actually all town.

Yeah, so I still don’t understand wtf scum was doing then? If I’m scum, I want one of my buddies on that.

[Loki Dokie]

scum letting town advance from game 5 with bad reads was actually a brilliant move - only need one townie to trust incorrectly to end the game in scum victory.

STD must have missed your PM obviously.

[Loki Dokie]

Looks like Norwe lost the bet to Dwlee.

Which was I’m assuming Koba’s alignment? Well I wikk trust my Norwee read > Koba’s going forward.

Again Norwee, I honestly didn’t mean anything bad, it’s just that I was sick of hearing you and Wheme go on and on and about the goddamned parachutes.

Also no way would scum!me not have immediatly trusted Koba, so really don’t knox what you all we’re smoking.

U understand where i was coming from with the mama ru thing?

No not really?

[Loki Dokie]

Loki its fine bc we only needed to have 2 townies that hard trusted

I think it should have been beyond obvious it was me based solely off of SS/Q/me interactions, so I should have been everyone’s #1 tr based off of that but good no one listened to my STD read and had you tried to convince me rather than throw garbage shade on me, you might have actually convinced me to vote your way.

Mate, you're looking at it from you own PoV. Mama Ru advancing you made me not willing to trust you. Period. SHE WAS SCUM and one of my STRONGEST SRs

No because anyone critically reading my interactions with both Q and especially SS, should have locktowned me for that, so you don’t get a pass for that.

[Loki Dokie]

I don't feel that my interactions with you were any more clearing than my interactions with Math.

You fucking tried to threaten me with oog bullshit for not outing my main? Like hello, this isn’t exactly fucking rocket science.

*head exploding braincells rapidly dying*.

[Loki Dokie]

I wasn't trying to threaten anything. I really am sorry if you took it that way.

It just really annoys me when people hide behind alts and then expect people to take their meta reads seriously without being able to back them up at all.

You owe me an apology for that. You had no right to do that. If anyone was abusing oog, it was you and had you actually won, I wouldn’t have congratulated you for that specifically.

[Loki Dokie]

I don't feel that my interactions with you were any more clearing than my interactions with Math.

You fucking tried to threaten me with oog bullshit for not outing my main? Like hello, this isn’t exactly fucking rocket science.

*head exploding braincells rapidly dying*.

Yeah I don’t think that was cool.

+1

[Loki Dokie]

I’m extremely sad, Mama saved me, that kind of hurts,

[Loki Dokie]

I wasn't trying to threaten anything. I really am sorry if you took it that way.

It just really annoys me when people hide behind alts and then expect people to take their meta reads seriously without being able to back them up at all.

You owe me an apology for that. You had no right to do that. If anyone was abusing oog, it was you and had you actually won, I wouldn’t have congratulated you for that specifically.

I would have congratulated everyone else on the scumteam but I will never congratulate scum for what I view as unethical behavior.

And that’s why I also should have been locktown because scum!me would obviously never have signed off on this.

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry if that’s harsh but the fact that you still don’t see anything wrong with what you did, really concerns me.

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry if that’s harsh but the fact that you still don’t see anything wrong with what you did, really concerns me.

SS, that’s really not a valid apology. Being annoyed is fine but actually trying to out me was bad enough but you actually tried to intimidate me into outing myself. That more than anything is what puts that over the line. There is no good justification for you trying to scare me into thinking I had violated site rules. when I obviously didn’t.

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry if that’s harsh but the fact that you still don’t see anything wrong with what you did, really concerns me.

No, it was definitely out of line. I stand by my feelings on alts; I'm entitled to my own opinion. But the way I let it come out was definitely wrong and I am sorry that I upset you.

Alright I firgive you but I still wouldn’t have congratulated you had you actually won, soloey based on that.
Although I do appreciate you taking responsibility and apologizing for it.

[Loki Dokie]

loki my mentality was that your slot was tainted over pushing rce and also mama ru allowing you to move on -> my thought process was to minimize the chance of losing

That I get but I think the interactions with SS alone should have trumped everything else because it was so obviously never SvS.

[Loki Dokie]

relax we won and partially thanks to you loki lets celebrate

Scum saved me and I tr final scum, so while I’m obviously glad we won, I’m really upset about not just that but also, both being violated and not been cleared for that.

[Loki Dokie]

i think that last game was a little town sided but some games were scum sided and some were town sided so i dunno how it all pans out. i think scum did the best job they could.

there wasn't really a counter wagon to firebringer/s_s and deviating would have looked sus as hell so I stand by that decision.

<3 Loki

I understand why scum saved me now and it wasn’t personal but because I was the only player paired with scum but then why couldn’t have Math saved Dwelee? After all RCE townlocked me?

[Loki Dokie]

i think that last game was a little town sided but some games were scum sided and some were town sided so i dunno how it all pans out. i think scum did the best job they could.

there wasn't really a counter wagon to firebringer/s_s and deviating would have looked sus as hell so I stand by that decision.

<3 Loki

I understand why scum saved me now and it wasn’t personal but because I was the only player paired with scum but then why couldn’t have Math saved Dwelee? After all RCE townlocked me?

I could have but I was thinking it was too much a risk.

But why was it more of a risk than Mama saving me, because of my STD read?

[Loki Dokie]

I'm so fucking pissed I missed the dance game I'm not even kidding
StD you're a bastard for giving tictac the chute over me

It was me but blame Fire, he took the last chute for Spamton.