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Wait, what? I meant that we agreed I would vote you to distance us...Yaw wrote:Oh, so you didn'treallywant to play in a game with me, Sens?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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He absolutely detests any form of Cult. I feel very confidant in saying there is no Cult in this game.wolframnhart wrote:
How is it odd? never played a petrolium game before so is his modding style different or something>Yaw wrote:
Bit of an odd thing to be wondering, isn't it? You know, given the posted role PMs and who our mod is.forbiddanlight wrote:I wonder if the mafia can recruit.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Fixed it for you. Seriously, what don't people get about the fact that Jelly will never use a Cult in his games?forbiddanlight wrote:There is ABSOLUTELY no recruitment.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Good enough for me.Natirasha wrote:Didn't realize game had started. Sorry.
Vote: NatirashaVote: Nat(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I assume that anyone voting themselves wants to be lynched. Note that my vote is a serious one.Natirasha wrote:
Sens...SensFan wrote:
Good enough for me.Natirasha wrote:Didn't realize game had started. Sorry.
Vote: NatirashaVote: Nat(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I have never played a game with TownNat, for the record. Our only completed game is AA.Natirasha wrote:
I'm not getting it either, Sensfan knows me well enough to know I do this in every game.RandomGem wrote:I'm not getting this....
Well, judging from Natirasha's sig and other things, I'd say this is normal of him...(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Why would a pro-Town role ever vote themselves?Seraphim wrote:Voting for someone who votes for himself is stupid. If there was a Joker role, he wouldn't make it obvious like that.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Cool, so no reason. Seraphim just demonstrated why anti-Town roles would vote themselves.Caboose wrote:
Beats me.SensFan wrote:
Why would a pro-Town role ever vote themselves?Seraphim wrote:Voting for someone who votes for himself is stupid. If there was a Joker role, he wouldn't make it obvious like that.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Yay, etter Day 1 lynch than most!RandomGem wrote:http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Natirasha
Yay, explanation!1. Natirasha always votes himself day one.
2. Natirasha is always anti-town.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I agree entirely with all of that post. I never said anything about wanting a policy lynch.forbiddanlight wrote:No. I personally don't like a "policy lynch Nat" attitude. I like a "let's actually scum hunt and get information, and come to a LOGICAL conclusion if we must lynch anyone, even Nat".(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I should totally start to speak only in Russian, vote in every post based on a dice roll, and quote my PM if I'm alive in LyLo in every game.ShadowGirl wrote:
Oh, how come?charter wrote:
A shadowgirl wagon would be good.Yaw wrote:Ok, we're on page 4 and nobody's really given me an excuse yet. Who are we bandwagoning? I sort of hate bandwagoning entirely at random, but we're almost at that point.
Nat does that every game, I believe, so I don't think it's an indicator to his alignment.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I'd disagree with that, actually. I think it led to some discussion, at least, which was not occuring before I pressured Nat. Obviously I'm not willing to lynch Nat based on a self-vote, but its an early wagon, like any other.Yaw wrote:1 -- Arguing about completely pointless things for too long is what was stopping us from getting a good bandwagon going, and actually heading into the scumhunting phase. It isn't necessarily a good thing.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Sounds like it. For the record, that's a genuine reason for him to be upset.wolframnhart wrote:So you are upset that I had a problem with ooba's voting methods and took away from a wagon that you wanted to happen?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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You're on your own on that one, then. Don't expect people to parrot other's reasoning, when its pretty clear why they're voting, like in this case.wolframnhart wrote:2)I don't care if he regurgitates his reason is the same as another persons, it is a reason, and that is the point. I am not going to guess why someone votes another person if they don't say why, they just vote and expect us to know why.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Yaw's list, sorted by post-count for easier reference.
forbiddanlight -- 24 posts, last post yesterday
Yaw -- 20 posts, last post yesterday (before this one, obv)
wolframnhart -- 19 posts, last post yesterday
Caboose -- 17 posts, last post yesterday
SensFan -- 15 posts, last post yesterday
ShadowGirl -- 9 posts, last post yesterday
MafiaSSK -- 8 posts, last post yesterday
ooba -- 8 posts, last post yesterday
charter -- 7 posts, last post yesterday
Natirasha -- 6 posts, last post yesterday
RandomGem -- 4 posts, last post Sunday
Seraphim -- 4 posts, last post Sunday
SocioPath -- 2 posts, last post Sunday
Electra -- 2 posts, last post yesterday(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Here, sorry for absense, but Thanksgiving+birthday+transpo home from school=busy times.
Read what I missed, and I really don't like Nat's attitude. Then again, I find him to be anti-Town in every game we've played. Although he has been anti-Town in both those games...
Anyways, SSK needs to explain, but I also want charter to expand on why he considers me Town because I am debating simple stuff.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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SensFan wrote:becausehe thinksI am debating simple stuff.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Completely unrelated. And I still think "Scum try to look helpful, so the fact you are really helpful means you might be Scum" is very dumb.charter wrote:I don't agree with that, but I understand how someone else would think it works.
@Sens, it goes to that newbie game where you were arguing with Romanus. A lot of what you were posting was (in my opinion) dumb. I saw the 'why would a pro-town role vote themselves' arguing to be identical in nature as your 'scum trying to appear helpful one' in NG 638.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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He's pretty clearly stalling for time. Not only does he not have to read anything, but the thread is so small that he can''t possibly be "still reading". I mean, since he claimed he had to re-read, I've read the entirety of Kingmaker II...Yaw wrote:You don't have to read. You just have to answer two things:
1 -- Provide specifics on what you meant by charter's meta.
2 -- Explain how your use of meta on charter is different from his use of meta on Sensfan, if you believe these uses are different.
You can read for other stuff afterwards.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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This should happen before the day ends and before SSK claims.SensFan wrote:I want a claim from SocioPath.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Awesome, now you reinforced even more the need for a full claim. Scum tend to only care if you are Townie or Power, so they have all the info as if you had full-claimed. Town, on the other hand, gain very little from a 'not Townie' claim.SocioPath wrote:SensFan wrote:Vote: SocioPath.
Happy?
Sure, to an extent.
I'll claim this: if it hasn't been apparent, I'm not a townie.
Also remember that there are 4 different win conditions in this game, and with that said, I win with the town.
If I get more votes from people actually contributing that still feel they need to know more, then I'll go into more detail.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I still support a full-claim.SocioPath wrote:SensFan wrote:Awesome, now you reinforced even more the need for a full claim. Scum tend to only care if you are Townie or Power, so they have all the info as if you had full-claimed. Town, on the other hand, gain very little from a 'not Townie' claim.
Yeah, that'd be true, normally. This game has different mechanics though, and thats mostly with the roles themselves.
I also noted that your vote to get me to claim, was less than 2 full minutes after my post before that, just saying.
And are you implying that it's scummy for you and I to be online at the same time? This is very different to someone who doesn't post for a week or more and shows up within a day of getting negative attention. That's a really bad last sentence, if you ask me.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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forbidden (or anyone other than me, for the sake of making sure SP doesn't call it OMGUS), do you agree with how bad it was that I'm supposedly scummy for posting 2 mins after him?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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One of us misunderstood something. I read his post saying that he would only listen to the demands for claims from people that had voted him. I understood the statement about the 2mins as saying that I was scummy for being so quick to vote him after he 'called me out' for not voting him.wolframnhart wrote:
I don't believe it is scummy at all because I have voted or posted after someone before only because I did not preview before posting. And to nit pick after someone for two whole minutes is just ridiculous. Had it been two days, i could see SP's point, but it wasn't so it almost seems like he is just trying to attack whatever he can out of Sens posting.SensFan wrote:forbidden (or anyone other than me, for the sake of making sure SP doesn't call it OMGUS), do you agree with how bad it was that I'm supposedly scummy for posting 2 mins after him?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I read every word you posted. Took me about 3 minutes, but I read it.SocioPath wrote:
No, I was implying that you probably jumped to voting without even fully reading my large chunk of words, unless you faster reader than most.SensFan wrote:And are you implying that it's scummy for you and I to be online at the same time? This is very different to someone who doesn't post for a week or more and shows up within a day of getting negative attention. That's a really bad last sentence, if you ask me.
Are you aware of PJ's views on Cults?SocioPath wrote:Also, because I didn't think about bringing it up earlier, your statements of no cult because the mod hates them go under 'trying to out-guess the mod.'
Especially since the first post states:
Those rules together, I think pretty much garentees a cult, that you might be the leader of. (It'd make sense: use previous meta to rule it out, then snatch up the town.)petroleumjelly wrote:4.)There are at least four different alignments (i.e. win conditions) in this game.
8.)All Cultists deaths will be revealed as either “Cult Leader”, or “[Former Role], Cultist”, where [Former Role] will be replaced by the appropriate former role name.
9.)Despite the fact that this game is titled “read your role mafia”, in no way am I trying to have a “gotcha!” moment based on misleading wording in your role PM. However, Iamtrying to emphasize that some roles have particularnuances, and instead of playing “hide the ball”, I want you to realize these nuances and take them into account while playing.
If not, go read them.
If so, stop saying stuff that's obviously false.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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EBWOP:
I am perfectly happy to go on record and state that it would be dumb beyond belief to so much as consider that there might be even a 0.0001% chance of a Cult. This applies until there is a dead Cult member.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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...If its a renaming of a Scum group, its not a Cult.
Seriously, I fail to comprehend how you can even begin to think that his views on Cults would be misnomers, given how ridiculously passionately anti-Cult he is.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Just saying...Seraphim basically wrote:I find it my policy to never, ever lyncha claimed power roleMafia on Day 1. Ever. If he's still alive on Day 2, well, then we have a problem. But, for Day 1...no, that's stupid. It's bad play.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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He's still reading the thread. Expect a response in 7-10 business days, assuming fair weather.ShadowGirl wrote:
Intention to hammer or just putting on another vote?MafiaSSK wrote:Unvote, vote Sociopath(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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He claimed non-Townie, in my eyes. Therefore, he needed to full-claim.RandomGem wrote:or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Random, plan on responding to the post 2 yours where I explain my push for a claim?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Did you expect a post that said "SP just soft-claimed non-Townie, whether he knows it or not. I think he should claim now."?RandomGem wrote:SensFan: Oops, sorry.
Okay... I guess you were right after Yaw, which isn't really much of a bandwagon, and you explained that you wanted more than a non-townie claim later... but on the other hand, you could have made that up after the fact for all I know. That wondering is exactly the reason why I don't like the 3 calls for a claim without any real backing.SensFan wrote:
He claimed non-Townie, in my eyes. Therefore, he needed to full-claim.RandomGem wrote:or was the stuff before that just the argument about PMs (which IMO, was just a misunderstanding).(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Meh, I didn't necessarily want a wagon when I asked for a claim. I only voted when he asked me to.Yaw wrote:The point was more that you didn't vote.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I explained VERY CLEARLY EXACTLY why I asked for a claim. Are you purposefully ignoring me?RandomGem wrote:Ok. Did the calls for a claim have anything to do with Yaw's call for a bandwagon? I'm just uncomfortable with the way SocioPath's wagon popped up suddenly.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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You need to start scumhunting, or you WILL be lynched.MafiaSSK wrote:Fine. I'll claim I'm a Survivor. I had basically given up on this game but I guess I shouldn't. Surior should be an easy enough win condition to fulfill.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.
Have a nice, lurkish, day!(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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You know, I would think that the fact you're a so-called Survivor would make you even more likely to contribute. If you get lynched, that's it, you lose. No chance for your moreMafiaSSK wrote:
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.
Have a nice, lurkish, day!competenthelpful to pull out a win.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Hunt Scum well enough to avoid a lynch. Don't hunt Scum well enough to be killed.MafiaSSK wrote:
I haven't known how to play a Survivor.SensFan wrote:
You know, I would think that the fact you're a so-called Survivor would make you even more likely to contribute. If you get lynched, that's it, you lose. No chance for your moreMafiaSSK wrote:
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.
Have a nice, lurkish, day!competenthelpful to pull out a win.
At this point, you need to focus on the first part. Especially since you claimed a non-Town role.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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I'm telling him to scumhunt...charter wrote:Sens, why are you instructing SSK?
I'm not giving him a free pass at all. I'm literally doing the opposite, since I've told him to contribute or be lynched. I just don't think he's the play today *shrug*charter wrote:It also seems like you're giving him a free pass, why.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Four factions, right? Couldn't it be Town, Mafia, SSK, ShadowGirl?forbiddanlight wrote:
I'm aware of that. It's just multiple factions that worries meWell, one of those deaths last night appears to have been self-inflicted, so I'm not convinced there would be two more deaths. (Read ShadowGirl's role again.)(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Seraphim meant to write wrote:After...I dhe flipped Townn't like the Sociopath lyncho. After his roleclaim, I quickly backed offin hindsight. I thought hisso I would look pro-Town after he flipped.roleclaim was solid and really have no idea why people continued to vote for himself-admitted very weak. The case against himsince I knew he was Town.is a great way to throw a bunch of suspicions
I'm still thinking about either voting for Electra or voting for Yaw(who, I believe, started that bandwagon), so...I think I'll wait to seen which of these wagons someone else starts, so I can use this logic on that person tomorrow!
I want everyone who was on that bandwagon at the end of the day, sans MafiaSSK(Yaw, Caboose, forbiddanlight, SensFan, Electra) to explain their reasoning on their vote on Sociopath(after I unvoted, of course).so that I can hopefully jump on 2-3 of you or more(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Yaw, can I get at least a yes/no/maybe/comical 4th option out of you in regards to my paraphrasing of Seraphim's post?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Do you see it as valid and true, though?
Sephiroth, I noticed you didn't comment on it. Any particular reasons?
Vote: Sephiroth(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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And you think the people who stayed on the wagon because they thought he was Scum are scummy?Seraphim wrote:I was against the SP lynch from the get-go. I voted for him to get a roleclaim. That wasit. Once I recieved that, I unvoted.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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You missed my point completely.Seraphim wrote:Now, Sensfan...
I believe it's entirely possible(in fact, very probable) that some/one of the people on the SP lynch are/is scum.And you think the people who stayed on the wagon because they thought he was Scum are scummy?
You claim that you were on the wagon, but you didn't think SP was Scum, but you wanted a claim. You also claim that the people that were on the wagon because they, you know, thought SP was scummy are scummy.
Do you not see the inherent flaw there?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Kinda surprised I have to quote this for you, but whatever.
Seraphim wrote:I'm kinda glad that ShadowGirl is dead. She would be working to keep certain people alive to win, which might incude scum.
After deep thinking...I didn't like the Sociopath lynch. After his roleclaim, I quickly backed off. I thought his roleclaim was solid and really have no idea why people continued to vote for him. The case against him was incredibly weak.
I'm still thinking about either voting for Electra or voting for Yaw(who, I believe, started that bandwagon), so...
I want everyone who was on that bandwagon at the end of the day, sans MafiaSSK(Yaw, Caboose, forbiddanlight, SensFan, Electra) to explain their reasoning on their vote on Sociopath.Seraphim wrote:I believe it's entirely possible(in fact, very probable) that some/one of the people on the SP lynch are/is scum.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Wolf. What you fail to realize here is that SSK might as well be Scum, for all intents and purposes. Even if he actually is a Survivor (which we don't know), hewolframnhart wrote:
I agree with Forbidden here, but would it be better to try and find someone who is actual scum? I realize survivor isn't a town role, but would it be best to save SSK's lynch until another date? Only reason i ask is everyone seems to be voting him due to his survivor role and if we analyze the wagon tomorrow it might be harder to pick apart what scum members might have been on the wagon (i realize he has acted scummy but survivor role seems to be the main point in the votes)forbiddanlight wrote:
And I don't think your defense really fits. I'll try to get more specific when I have more time. As for MafiaSSK, he's first a claimed survivor, and second, has been incredibly scummy in that he hasn't said anything helpful and he hasn't even been trying to put his thoughts out there.
Why do you like a MafiaSSK lynch? You vote for MafiaSSK but spend the entire post attacking me. And seeing as I've already posted my defense on all of your points, I don't feel a need to repeat myself.willflip to Scum at LyLo.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Actually, I don't even think I'm voting him.Unvote, Vote: MafiaSSK(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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He's claimed already.forbiddanlight wrote:That's L-1, by the way, if my count is correct.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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forbiddan, if the majority of the people agree on lynching SSK, is there really a lot more discussion that needs to be done?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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If today's lynch has been decided, we can't actually wagon anyone else. Therefore, the only people that discussion helps is Scum, since they will make a decision based on any information gained before we will make a decision.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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He can respond tomorrow, for God's sake. Seriously, you;ve made your point. What good will come of a ton of discussion, seeing as we have decided on a lynch?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Discussion is pro-Town during the Day. At the point we were at, it was basically Night, though, since the lynch had been decided. The Scum would be submitting a kill (and discussing privately) after the discussion before the Town would be lynching someone. Therefore, the discussion only helps the Scum, since otherwise it can happen tomorrow without the Scum being able to plan around or killed based on that discussion.forbiddanlight wrote:Isn't discussion for the most part pro town? Townies use the day as their tool to fight scum. There's no point ending the day early if there are things to be said. If everyone is ok with ending then day, then a hammer is justified. I'm ambivalent myself, since I've said my piece, I'd just like to see more people checking in.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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Explain exactly how your claimed role works. No one else talk about his result or his role until this is answered.Electra wrote:omg, you guys are so annoying. That's what I actually thought.
Anyway, I will claim since no one wants to respond to me. I'm a cop, I know that Sens and Seraphim are not the same alignment, and I think that Sens is town. Hence I find Seraphim to be scum. His claim of vanilla does nothing for me.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
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