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I followed that link, and just came back to type basically this same messageIn post 3587, Taco Hemingway wrote:I mostly just looked at the replace-in thought process, in Death Curse they replaced into a scum slot, and it immediately started with trying to look aloof and confused, which is a stark similarity to this game. I will crosscheck with a town game, but this looks pretty damning.-
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Found a town replacement game for DGBIn post 3587, Taco Hemingway wrote:I mostly just looked at the replace-in thought process, in Death Curse they replaced into a scum slot, and it immediately started with trying to look aloof and confused, which is a stark similarity to this game. I will crosscheck with a town game, but this looks pretty damning.
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@DGB, if you have any replacement games you want to link that would be great. There is not an easy way (that I know of) to find those.-
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Both morph and manatee confirmed this day 1In post 3614, Taco Hemingway wrote:
I don't believe that, but I do believe that you are not malefactor by claiming this.In post 3612, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.In post 3610, Taco Hemingway wrote:You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.
lmao nice try.
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In post 3671, Taco Hemingway wrote:In post 3663, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:
Cabd claimed it couldn't have malefactor while he was still alive.In post 3614, Taco Hemingway wrote:
I don't believe that, but I do believe that you are not malefactor by claiming this.In post 3612, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.In post 3610, Taco Hemingway wrote:You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.
lmao nice try.
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yes but the way its been worded does not imply that, it feels like a misinterpretation because masonries in multiball typically are explicitly only mafia-less, not excluding ANY other faction.
So you think that all of:In post 2174, morph the cat wrote:in a Masonry that is mod-explained to potentially include a Wolf, but none of us can be Mafia or Malefactor.
Cabd
Ffery
Zeus
Hades
Poseiden
and Manatee
All looked their role pms, and they all misunderstood it, but you have the right answer?-
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lmaoIn post 3679, Taco Hemingway wrote:Yes
But, I agree with Kakeguri, it does not matter, because the Olympians are pretty obviously town at this point-
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+1In post 3692, Ythan wrote:I would like to hear what it's called and not just that it's a werewolf equivalent gunsmith.-
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Role blocker apparentlyIn post 3694, DrippingGoofball wrote:A gunsmith can catch mafia and town vig.
A fang checker can catch wolves and town ???-
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You have already claimed that it is a ww version of a gunsmith, and claimed that a roleblocker is a false positiveIn post 3696, Taco Hemingway wrote:I'm not outting what it is because it gives info to WW.
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I really don't think that is what she is softing -- I have a different guess lolIn post 3756, Vecna wrote:I guess Mastina is claiming malefactor? If true, murder Wheme-
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I read that as an Anya way of claiming to be a townie, although Anya can correct me if I am wrong.In post 3759, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:happy birthday massy!
wait is that a legitimate claim lmfao why does it sound so funky?
mom do we want night actions from anya?
im gonna go ahead and say we want it + summary of the role
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I am also unsure why this is happeningIn post 3763, Dannflor wrote:why are we making people beyond DGB claim randomly-
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I would say that Ircher's strip quote wall is not all that dissimilar to a lot of his posts in Yggdrasil. -- I also agreed with him wrt to how you were spamming the thread yesterday (irl yesterday, not day 1)
That being said, I have not been town reading the resistance - if anything they are at null for me atm-
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You told me to look back at your conversation, I looked at it, and I saw something I agreed with. Also, you responded and disagreed with him. So commented.In post 3785, Taco Hemingway wrote:
I dont know why you included the latter statement about you agreeing, sounds useless. just state it separately.In post 3784, Lukewarm wrote:I would say that Ircher's strip quote wall is not all that dissimilar to a lot of his posts in Yggdrasil. -- I also agreed with him wrt to how you were spamming the thread yesterday (irl yesterday, not day 1)
That being said, I have not been town reading the resistance - if anything they are at null for me atm
What was their alignment in Yggdrasil?
He was town in Yggdrasil. Lots and lots of strip quote posts-
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Link to his iso from that gameIn post 3790, Taco Hemingway wrote:
Ok I don't think you/resistance would be exactly a scumteam so I will trust u on that one. But I'd like a link to at least see if the content type differs even if the style is the sameIn post 3786, Lukewarm wrote:
You told me to look back at your conversation, I looked at it, and I saw something I agreed with. Also, you responded and disagreed with him. So commented.In post 3785, Taco Hemingway wrote:
I dont know why you included the latter statement about you agreeing, sounds useless. just state it separately.In post 3784, Lukewarm wrote:I would say that Ircher's strip quote wall is not all that dissimilar to a lot of his posts in Yggdrasil. -- I also agreed with him wrt to how you were spamming the thread yesterday (irl yesterday, not day 1)
That being said, I have not been town reading the resistance - if anything they are at null for me atm
What was their alignment in Yggdrasil?
He was town in Yggdrasil. Lots and lots of strip quote posts
I was not in that game, so I did not read his posts very closely, so I cannot really speak to the content, but I definitely see the similarity in style. I also saw people attacking him for that style in that game-
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Specifically, I feel like I read posts almost identical to this one, aimed at a town aligned ircher that gameIn post 3715, Taco Hemingway wrote:like you're literally commenting on things where the conversation actually wrapped up where you're trying to comment on something that is way out of date. its like are u trying to pretend like you're adding something or pretend like u can reach into the past and add ur thoughts?
ur just trying to *seem* active with your posts it seems rather than making meaningful analysis.-
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I see 2 possibilities:
Taco is the occultist, and has a guilty on Anya.
Taco is the malefactor, and is faking a guilty in order to buy 2 miselims (Anya - > Taco)
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So, I think killing taco first is the play.
If it is option 2, we don't walk into his trap, if it is option 1, then we literally just kill Anya tomorrow and win.
I am confused why Taco would present voting him out as "game throwing," especially since he supposedly has a guilty on the last werewolf, and we have a million miselims left-
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I did not vote until I after I saw your resultIn post 3946, Taco Hemingway wrote:Like imagine i was hammered without outing a result fucking clown behavior-
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Save face?
I voted for you AFTER you said that lol
In post 3938, Lukewarm wrote:
VOTE: TacoIn post 3934, Taco Hemingway wrote:People who are voting me who are town are throwing-
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I know for a fact that there is at least 1 other ability in the game that could have stopped the werewolf nightkillIn post 3950, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:it probably is anya. that would also explain why wolves didn't get a kill that night. anya was blocked.
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(That is all the info you are getting from me)
Lets speed elim Taco now. If he flips town, then the game is already won, and we are wasting our time-
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With Taco's results, we have an actionable game plan.In post 3959, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:why not wait for a couple claims? its not like we dont have time
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If we are in monks and masons+, then we have (most likely, based on the size of the masonry) 3 townies that can turn into IC's by claiming they are monks out there somewhere, and forcing claims will just narrow those down for the werewolves to kill.
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We have a vigilante.In post 3965, Kazyan wrote:VOTE: Anya
If Taco were pulling a big-brain malefactor play, why would they fake a guilty on someone who was already on the chopping block? Doesn't seem likely.
If we vote Taco out, and he flips town, the vigilante shoots Anya, and the game ends during the night anyways.-
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I think that there is a chance that you are town.In post 3976, Taco Hemingway wrote:Lukewarm knows im town btw lol
But I also think that if you are town, then we are in auto win.
So, I think that we should instead focus on shoring up the damage possibility if you are not town-
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Taco full claimed his occultist roleIn post 3978, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
we need the 1v1ers claims?????????In post 3963, petapan wrote:
do we need more claims than the 1v1 we have?In post 3959, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:why not wait for a couple claims? its not like we dont have time
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In post 3983, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:hm sure okay. VOTE: anya
the cat hasn't been wrong all game.
-Mister OceanIn post 2722, morph the cat wrote:I'm assuming 4 per side if town is lots of PRs, 3 per side if town is power light.
Explictly Werewolf:
Manatee
Vecna
Explicitly Mafia:
SEKRIT ONE
Generic scum of either side:
VFP
Spiffeh
Tacos
Taco is on the list, anya is not. Just saying-
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If you are town, then we are in auto win, so I don't need to do an iso check on you when I can just kill you to see if we have won alreadyIn post 3991, Taco Hemingway wrote:Like i put attention on manatee early while anya pushed on neither flipped wolf. Yall just straight in denial-
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Currently, 1 of you MUST be lying.In post 3995, Taco Hemingway wrote:Its autowin either way its a 50 50 bc anya confirmed my report doesn't match their claim lol
If anya is lying, she is scum, and we are in auto win.
If you are lying, then you are more likely to be malefactor then scum, and we are not in auto win if you are malefactor.
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The the mod lied to us, and this is actually a bastard game, and I will be writing cephir a very strongly worded emailIn post 3999, Taco Hemingway wrote:and if there's more than 3 groupscum in factions?-
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this is not something that can happen this gameIn post 3974, petapan wrote:
goddamit ceph not the rat mafiaIn post 3972, Taco Hemingway wrote:What if there's more scum we have to kill?
The alignments that can exist in this game areTown,Mafia,WerewolfandMalefactor(only one; wins when the town loses).-
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Yeah, but I went and grabbed the quotes to respond to a post from Taco that I misread, and did not want to let that effort go to wasteIn post 4007, petapan wrote:it was a joke dude-
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It explicitly cannot be 4/4, the mod confirmed the mafia faction as being fully eliminatedIn post 4011, Taco Hemingway wrote:Cabd carried you by merit of being right on several scum past their death. You did no reading. I really hope its 4/4 just so i can watch and laugh from the gy post anya flip
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agreedIn post 4024, petapan wrote:
u are a legend for posting your way out of it tbhIn post 4021, Dannflor wrote:scum regretting not speedlimming t3 d1 when they had the chance-
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Yeah, I am glad that we {Mastina, Peta, Resistance, Kazyan, Dann, Pooky, and Luke} all were able to catch Anya on our own like thisIn post 4035, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Taco had nothing to do with this glorious wagon of justice-
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In post 4037, Lukewarm wrote:
Yeah, I am glad that we {Mastina, Peta, Resistance, Kazyan, Dann, Pooky,In post 4035, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Taco had nothing to do with this glorious wagon of justiceandLuke,and Unwnd} all were able to catch Anya on our own like this-
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I have a different guessIn post 4047, Kazyan wrote:If it's not over, then Vax just shoots Taco tonight and we do a victory dance in the morning. (I'm assuming it's Vax, anyway.)-
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My guess for vigilante was celestial powerhouse. Thread locked, so I put the guess in the monastery pt before the flipsIn post 4054, unwnd wrote:
Spit it outIn post 4052, Lukewarm wrote:
I have a different guessIn post 4047, Kazyan wrote:If it's not over, then Vax just shoots Taco tonight and we do a victory dance in the morning. (I'm assuming it's Vax, anyway.)-
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+1In post 4094, fferyllt wrote:
This!In post 4092, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:thanks for modding ceph :3
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My monk-mates made me SO paranoid night 1
They both were completely absent that night, to the point I was worried that they might both be mafia, and had decided to just kill me. So I lied and claimed bulletproof to try and live to Day 2 to out my suspicion (and hopefully talk to ffery about it)
Changed my mind on that pretty quick tho. Like as soon as Ydra flipped strongman, I knew that there was not chance the mafia was ever considering killing me, so that worry went away almost immediately start of Day 2-
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You did such an amazing job getting town read day 1, but you did it as a role that does not really want/need to be town read lol
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btw, I thought you did pretty good overall. I had you as a town read day 1, and I enjoyed reading your postsIn post 4115, Anya wrote:nice i'm counting this as a win-
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Koba, I wanted to kill you because you spent too much time yelling at us and calling us bad when we were actively killing scum.In post 4172, Taco Hemingway wrote:this game is further proof for me that masonries are +ev or -ev purely based on rand lmao after seeing who was the monk team...
if you want to be a better mason/monk a big tip is that YOU ARE INFORMED. People WILL read you as informed. This will inevitably lead to people solving the game around you thinking you might be scum because you are acting weird around your partners. Like if your read gets called wrong... listen to people instead of acting entitled because you know you're a role who is self clearing with a group of others... put your ego away when you're mason/monk. You're an activated IC who is acting as a VT. That's it. You know people are town yes, but people that aren't informed of that don't KNOW that. thank u for reading this mason PSA(as mason is my fave role but also frustrating to play against when played wrong)
Had nothing to do with your read on me <3-
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I always agreed with this logic, and did not vote you until after Anya claimedIn post 4174, Taco Hemingway wrote:
<3 thanks mastina for being a voice of reason this was the correct play.mastina wrote:For the record I don't exactly trust Taco but the mechanically correct play is to force Anya to claim first.
If Taco initiates a hard 1v1, we're guaranteed a scum.
If Taco backs down and fullclaims after Anya claims, then we can assess both individuals' claims and see if there's 0 or 1 wolves between them and if 1 which one it is.
But either way we don't force Taco to fullclaim first (claiming who the result is on is enough) and we don't eliminate Taco before Anya claims.-
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I still think that voting you, then viging Anya at night if you flipped town was the safer play. I had you in a "probably not mafia and probably not werewolf, butmaybemalefactor" at the start of the day, so I played accordingly
Like, if you were town, then we were in auto win and the order DID NOT MATTER, but if you were malefactor, voting you first was better.
Voting you first NEVER resulted in a loss, but voting you first had a small chance of avoiding a malefactor play.
There was no risk in voting you off first, but there was a benefit, so I voted for you
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Now that everyone's roles have been revealed, it turns out the vig was 2 shot so that was not quite how it would have played out, but even then it still would not have lowered our win chances because we could have just shot Anya the next day.-
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Thank goodness, I was getting worried someone was going to press charges against meIn post 4195, DrippingGoofball wrote:I do declare that none of the townies in this game have earned a sentence in Bad Player Jail.-
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So, I decided to aggregate town's accuracy in town reading this game, specifically these are everyone's finalDAY ONEreads
Fun things that I noticed:
~Anya was likethat was weaseling into the town reads of players -- so, just reaffirming my own 4159the scum
~Kazyan's day 1 town reads went a little unnoticed this game, but he was actually 100%, so congrats there
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