Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[Taco Hemingway]

ok but what do YOU think

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not letting you absolve responsibility when inevitably I will flip town by just saying "oops I was sheeping cabd".

Cabd is dead. They have not seen anything from today. You're following dated reads from a moment when there were no flips.

[Taco Hemingway]

the thing is I don't want to waste my ability I want to have a clear idea of who I should target instead of having a bunch of null people who i, by necessity, need to check because they refuse to show original thought.

[Taco Hemingway]

@DGB fullclaim

you dont have that right and literally stop. we've already been over this. our hydra might want claims. stop rushing this wagon.

lukewarm unvote please.

-Mister Ocean

You have no cred here. You admitted to being a 3 person hydra who is just sheeping a dead slot without any thought.

Step up if you want to do things.

[Taco Hemingway]

You tried to get me to full claim with 0 votes on my slot. So honestly? Just stay in your lane. You're a prime example why masons can be -EV in the wrong hands. Cabd is an example of them being +EV because he actually evaluated the masonry in the way you should when its a mafia-less hood.

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't care if it isn't technically your head that did this or that, you're responsible for what your slot does btw - b4 you try to say "that wasn't me"

[Taco Hemingway]

How do you feel about Wheme trying to rush the DGB vote earlier btw?

[Taco Hemingway]

You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.

[Taco Hemingway]

Lmao jinx.

[Taco Hemingway]

actually I'm trolling I have a strong malefactor read elsewhere and I think they know I read them heavily as malefactor so lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.

masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.
lmao nice try.

-Mister Ocean

I don't believe that, but I do believe that you are not malefactor by claiming this.

[Taco Hemingway]

Townlean

:
unwnd (feels like previous multiball instead of Mini Normal 2187)
Pooky (behavior feels more 'open' like in the newbie Mars game I had with him instead of the last multiball)
Kakeguri Addicts (tries to figure out how others think instead of just push an agenda)
kdowns (+town for noticing how pooky is acting, -town for claiming miller, but I want to believe)
Lukewarm (gut read; something about his communication style and comparisons to previous events)

Null

:
ManateeDude (Doesn't look like a pocketing attempt? Takes are weird but ok.)

not enough impression to distinguish these people yet

:
Everyone else

I'm Particularly Confused About

:
morph the cat
Vaxkiller (acting scummy, but I have Opinions)
Whemestar (I can't tell if this is bad-take town or bad-take scum)

Scumlean

:
Celestial Powerhouse (gut read)
The Resistance (weird pattern of questioning about things that don't really matter)
VFP (pls post)

Wow such scum

:
Dannflor

why do we have Kayzan outside of consensus PoE btw?

I've seen a lack of discussion about them although thats prob my fault lmao


but I decided to sift through some ISOs of the less active slots and kayzan's read list had manatee as null and their scumreads looks really bad

[Taco Hemingway]

DGB last mafia

Kayzan + Vax/Wheme last WW sounds like a reasonable solve in my head rn.


I'm going to see who echo was pushing because there's a good chance WW killed that not bc they thought the slot was scum. It is really strange that *mafia* killed cabd and not WW tho considering that WW KNOWS whos in the masonry.

[Taco Hemingway]

Why on a holistic level is Kayzan town?

[Taco Hemingway]

actually got to the latter half of their ISO, they're town.


y'all don't understand how powerful I can be if I actually read everything

[Taco Hemingway]

DGB last mafia

Kayzan + Vax/Wheme last WW sounds like a reasonable solve in my head rn.


I'm going to see who echo was pushing because there's a good chance WW killed that not bc they thought the slot was scum. It is really strange that *mafia* killed cabd and not WW tho considering that WW KNOWS whos in the masonry.

kazyan and vax are both >rand town. wheme is just malefactor.
we are not elimming outside of the kill pool until all of them are dead.

I never understood all the talk about werewolf killing. like why can't werewolves kill echo? the bp is probably like activated or something. of course the werewolves can kill it. all the claw stuff didn't make fucking sense.

-Mister Ocean

I think actually that BP doesn't actually work against the Wolf factional kill, just based on my own role PM specifying specific roles.

[Taco Hemingway]

But like the fact wolves didn't target morph themselves - that should scream that wolves did NOT consider cabd a threat and their reads were actually more accurate against mafia WHICH WAS SHOWN TO BE CORRECT

[Taco Hemingway]

no, I just think that there is implication that roles are separated based on faction for investigative and protective.

There is a werewolf specific doc role that I will not be naming because it is not public info - ergo I don't want anyone fakeclaiming it. I do believe that 1 WW may have this role depending on how it works.

[Taco Hemingway]

But like the fact wolves didn't target morph themselves - that should scream that wolves did NOT consider cabd a threat and their reads were actually more accurate against mafia WHICH WAS SHOWN TO BE CORRECT

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooo VECNAS BUDDY ARRIVED AT THE PARTY
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
shoot where's that pooky gif?

-Mister Ocean

at this point im not even like mad at how clowny you're acting. i'm just straight disappointed that you can't get over the fact that I've been leaving my scumrange for a while.

[Taco Hemingway]

actually I think peta is a WW, echo only really only named peta as their other most vocal scumread.

[Taco Hemingway]

no my logic is that if cabd is fucking the werewolves up that they are goign to kill the slot themselves.

We know ww did not target cabd.



So like ?? stop trying to justify that position. Occam's razor is calling and its desperately trying to get into your head.

[Taco Hemingway]

My main is outted within my other game, I'm DkKoba.

[Taco Hemingway]

(@mod its a completed game)

[Taco Hemingway]

I'll win posthumously because I will die to wolves tonight.

[Taco Hemingway]

DGB last mafia


peta WW vax possibly other one.

wheme malefactor? (i do agree they just dont seem like to care about the game)

If DGB flips maf I will check vecna tbh

[Taco Hemingway]

echo was a major pusher of manatee but was not in "towncore".

They were townread by me - that implies who killed them thought I was town because I was very vocal about townreading that slot. (I mean you can construe that as me killing who I think was towniest, but I'd shoot into masonry as wolf)

I was sorta ignoring peta here bc they expressed a townread on me and when I'm getting shit on by people I townread I just take the townread and let it happen for a time, but enough is enough.



Like NKA is actually valuable, lets not pretend like we shouldn't analyze why a certain action was taken over another.

[Taco Hemingway]

you said you have a 4th mason member, so why not tell them?

[Taco Hemingway]

we're making DGB claim here

[Taco Hemingway]

I was playing pretty heavily mid-d1, and was the one who was vocal about not rushing your slot lim through. I don't think I was completely impactless throughout the day, i was merely absent near eod1.


If i'm wolf in that position, I just go "oh fuck just fucking shoot cabd and hope it goes through" or use a strongman shot if possible.

[Taco Hemingway]

meh.

I think we just need this flip bc I feel like we're talking in circles and no one wants to be convinced bc they're stuck.

[Taco Hemingway]

Wait - wolves knew the Celestial was in the hood too - so they would have logically, shot at celestial over echo if that was their goal to help silence that masonry

[Taco Hemingway]

They literally had a conftown person to shoot and they didn't. Unless you really really really think that Echo was doc telling

[Taco Hemingway]

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

[Taco Hemingway]

When mary says we visited T3, we're talking about meta, not our role.

We found a game where he faked a guilty on his scum partner as traitor.

that game was cursed and needs to be forgotten

[Taco Hemingway]

You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.

masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.
lmao nice try.

-Mister Ocean

I don't believe that, but I do believe that you are not malefactor by claiming this.

Cabd claimed it couldn't have malefactor while he was still alive.

yes but the way its been worded does not imply that, it feels like a misinterpretation because masonries in multiball typically are explicitly only mafia-less, not excluding ANY other faction.

[Taco Hemingway]

Anya is my favorite on the list.

I mean Taco's there for me as well but basically the same.

Anya ~= Taco > DGB > Vecna in preference for the list (I am off the table because morph couldn't have been more wrong about me being a werewolf), though I realize I've little sway there.

do you think my roleclaim is legit, and how do you think it fits into my alignment, if so

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Vecna

@Vecna please explain your thought process in how you were reading Manatee on d1.

[Taco Hemingway]

No, i cant act on n1

The reason is because roleblocker is one of my false positives

Theres other false positive roles but i refuse to claim what they are

This sounds like a complex role that is complex in a way that Cephrir explicitly hates in current Normals.

So I'm like 80% sure this is a bullshit claim.

It's explicitly a WW version of GS.

[Taco Hemingway]

Yes

[Taco Hemingway]

I believe the average person on this site makes really bad assumptions about mechanics, you are 100% correct.

[Taco Hemingway]

case in point: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not outting what it is because it gives info to WW.

[Taco Hemingway]

I already crumbed it in my very first post. Will come with explaination once I do out it.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not outting what it is because it gives info to WW.

You have already claimed that it is a ww version of a gunsmith, and claimed that a roleblocker is a false positive

but the name of that role, thats where you draw the line? That one is just too much info?

yup

[Taco Hemingway]

i think its hilarious how much you dance around my PR claim being a point in my favor while trying to discred it. you know I'm town and want to push for my mislim here, huh?

What PR claim? (I acknowledge you have claimed later, but as far as I'm aware, you hadn't claimed to this point.) All you did was claim that you have a really useful role.

WHen I signed up I just followed a link that peta posted in the epicmafia forum maf discord and said yeah lets do it so lmao

Am I really going to have to read another 5 pages of you spamming the thread with AtE and excuses?

This is a big game with a lot of hyper posters, some townies are bound to lose their footing in the social landscape.

Like, you literally just said this about VFP, and with that on your mind, you did not even consider that as a possibility that could apply to Vax as well?

Meh, there's being drowned out and then there is not contributing at all. I haven't looked at VFP's or most of Vax's posts, but the few posts of Vaxkiller I've seen are 100% devoid of game relevant content. That's not a good look; certainly Vaxkiller could say something useful in the few posts he does have, but he fails even that. (Granted, I've only read a subset of Vaxkiller's posts, so maybe I missed the ones with actual game content.)

mastina's read on kakeguri and posts like this feel unbelievable

mastina's reads are mostly irrelevant. What matters more is her engagement level. So far, she seems pretty engaged; thus, I'm inclined to town read her.

because we claim THIRD MASON

My read on your slot instantly drops from this because if I were a werewolf and knew you were town, I would 100% be killing your slot during the night. (To be clear, I am not interested in elimming this slot any time soon despite this; I'm just noting from a NKA perspective, this instantly raises their scum equity.)

For the record: speeding our way through our first elimination in a day phase with two eliminations sharing one deadline is actually optimal play imo

Oh, I was unaware that the deadline wasn't reset between elims. The speed lim makes more sense if the deadline isn't reset.

Mastina is town

Vaxkiller is starting to look better.

*snip of giant reads list*

(For future reference.)

i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously.

Uh, is this an actual town tell for Pooky? My impression is he is always like that, and if anything, this seems like it would be a negative point. (As in, he can use the excessive posts as a smoke screen to avoid actual hunting.)

DGB > Vecna > Taco > Anya > Mastina

I'm thinking Taco > DGB > Vecna > Anya > mastina is the better elim order based on scum equity. I actually don't think mastina has scum equity here and should be higher in your reads list.

I don't actually town read Vecna, but my hydra partner does so I'm putting some stock into that. Ditto for Anya (but to a much lesser extent).

U know what, imma just claim more of it. Im basically a gunsmith but for ww

And we're supposed to believe that huh...

unprompted tilt roleclaims are >>rand town in my experience - malefactor claiming here just opens themselves to being a NK

That wasn't a tilt claim, and it especially wasn't unprompted.

why do we have Kayzan outside of consensus PoE btw?

Because Kazyan isn't bleeding scum like someone around here is....

Why on a

holistic

level is Kayzan town?

That's precisely why.

I think actually that BP doesn't actually work against the Wolf factional kill, just based on my own role PM specifying specific roles.

We've been over this already.

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

Please stop spamming. Around 40%-60% of the last 15 pages have been you spamming two-liners.
---
This game is rather unreadable with Taco's sheer volume of posts in the last several pages.
~Ircher

your quote walls are much less readable than my separated thought posts.
its my posting style, I deal with yours, get over mine.

[Taco Hemingway]

like you're literally commenting on things where the conversation actually wrapped up where you're trying to comment on something that is way out of date. its like are u trying to pretend like you're adding something or pretend like u can reach into the past and add ur thoughts?

ur just trying to *seem* active with your posts it seems rather than making meaningful analysis. It's like, no, we dont care about your comment about how something I said was already "discussed" before in a 150 page game.I don't even have the highest post count so don't even try to come at me for it.

You try to pretend you are reading but in reality, you are not grasping threads of conversation and are merely picking out individual posts and responding to them without any holistic view.

Post some real analysis because so far your quote wall responses have been cringy and scummy.

[Taco Hemingway]

and tbh when I wrote my PoE I forgot your slot existed. you were still in there, I just hadn't given you any thought at all when writing it.

I'm here typing out analysis after analysis, showing high levels of complexity. You call me scum and refuse to engage/dialogue.


You see Vax call Mastina town.

Vax is town.


????

Your reading is just picking people and alignments out of a hat for the most part and I don't see any acutal reasoning behind it.

and TBH? I don't think there's any real reason that anyone should be townreading your slot here. This is the type of content your slot has provided nearly ALL GAME. You're just lucky some people(pooky, celestial) have been lazy and sticking to a dead player's legacy reads with no critical thought of engaging the game.

[Taco Hemingway]

I pointed out the very same thing about NKA wrt the shot at the mason being avoided - like if you're town here, you're not reading jack shit or at the very least being honest about that so people can fill in the blanks for you here.A lot of things you've quoted from me are outdated because it looks like you look for something "scummy" I said and then completely ignore any and all posts around it to determine my thought process. You're playing very 1 dimensional.

I never really had to play against scum you(or town you, for that matter) myself, so I don't know if this is your usual town game but I'm growing tired of the way you are skirting under the radar with the way you are shitting out bad takes.

[Taco Hemingway]

honestly titus is fine but every time ircher posts my read of that slot goes down a little bit

sorry ircher if you're town but I have not been connecting with how you're engaging at all this game

That's more or less my point lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

probably going to do an overview of Ircher head sometime tomorrow with detailed thought linking(if possible lmao) to see where we are, it would help to sort you Ircher if you ellaborate/be forthcoming about anything you may have been bluffing perhaps about, or not been fully engaged with for example. We're all human, I acknowledge that sometimes stuff that is scummy can be attributed to just an off play, so it helps if you're just honest with us and tell us if you're just having trouble reading thegame and need help to get caught up or to point you in a direction to help you understand the gamestate better.

As much as I wanna be mean at this point in the game after all the shit I've been given, I am willing to drop that so we can get some answers from your head, as I do value your input.

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't even have the highest post count so don't even try to come at me for it.

ISO #42 is your first post for Day 2. You now have 248 posts in the game putting you at the sixth highest post count in the game. I rest my case.
~Ircher

That shouldn't be what you are interacting with me about first, and I hope this is not your last response.

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Echolocation

Gut VC looking at. Ircher isn't opposed.

Kazyan and morph are FoSes.

~Titus

VOTE: Petapan

Look, I'm voting your top townread! Get me!

Petapan is scum and your reads are bad and you are scum I know you are unwnd!!

Ooh look at me pushing you whatever could I be up to...!

Oddly performative. Gut pings.

Resistance is 100% not Mafia aligned here

You know it would be a bit funny if I was sitting on a WW guilty rn ya get?

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Resistance

[Taco Hemingway]

You're frozen.

[Taco Hemingway]

Koba are you still here?

Your scum pool is

(Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta)

Cabd/ffery
(Mastina, Vecna, anya, VFP/Dbg)

Mine

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Ythan, Vax, Anya, Shelby, Vecna)

The gods collective

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Anya, Vecna)

There are alot of names that are shared in common, Unwnd has alot of these names in their own elimination list and with the zebra kat, wheme sits as a malefactor and Wheme pings me as scummy.

If we hit in all the names we have in common, the game is that much more likely to be over or close to it.

Main thing about wheme is nearly all the content they've given today has been to rush the day

[Taco Hemingway]

Koba are you still here?

Your scum pool is

(Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta)

Cabd/ffery
(Mastina, Vecna, anya, VFP/Dbg)

Mine

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Ythan, Vax, Anya, Shelby, Vecna)

The gods collective

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Anya, Vecna)

There are alot of names that are shared in common, Unwnd has alot of these names in their own elimination list and with the zebra kat, wheme sits as a malefactor and Wheme pings me as scummy.

If we hit in all the names we have in common, the game is that much more likely to be over or close to it.

Main thing about wheme is nearly all the content they've given today has been to rush the day

[Taco Hemingway]

You should be able to self kill as long as it is your partner making the kill on you IMO if its a game with complexity - but otherwise no.


alisae considered self killing in a setup where if a scum is limmed d3 they lose bc e was very obvious at that point but they only didn't because a townie was so hardtunneled on me they were basically a scum traitor

[Taco Hemingway]

anyways I'd like people to read over the covnersation I had with resistance last night and look at Ircher and tell me your conclusions.

Drop whatever preconception you have of the slot, look at just ircher.

[Taco Hemingway]

I would say that Ircher's strip quote wall is not all that dissimilar to a lot of his posts in Yggdrasil. -- I also agreed with him wrt to how you were spamming the thread yesterday (irl yesterday, not day 1)

That being said, I have not been town reading the resistance - if anything they are at null for me atm

I dont know why you included the latter statement about you agreeing, sounds useless. just state it separately.


What was their alignment in Yggdrasil?

[Taco Hemingway]

I would say that Ircher's strip quote wall is not all that dissimilar to a lot of his posts in Yggdrasil. -- I also agreed with him wrt to how you were spamming the thread yesterday (irl yesterday, not day 1)

That being said, I have not been town reading the resistance - if anything they are at null for me atm

I dont know why you included the latter statement about you agreeing, sounds useless. just state it separately.


What was their alignment in Yggdrasil?

You told me to look back at your conversation, I looked at it, and I saw something I agreed with. Also, you responded and disagreed with him. So commented.

He was town in Yggdrasil. Lots and lots of strip quote posts

Ok I don't think you/resistance would be exactly a scumteam so I will trust u on that one. But I'd like a link to at least see if the content type differs even if the style is the same

[Taco Hemingway]

End the day

Regroup if we're wrong

we got 11 days u can relax and just prodge the day away if u want we are gonna use the time to discuss

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Taco Hemingway]

Forgot to switch my vote off - but yeah.

[Taco Hemingway]

i'm convinced aight.

means i can just ignore the slot forever and not care about them having bad reads >:)

[Taco Hemingway]

hi lets wagon vax instead of DGB

[Taco Hemingway]

we're really ahead so like !! whatever but I'm 100% checking on wagon for dgb if it flips town

[Taco Hemingway]

pooky prob malefactor who thinks the role is dumb if they aren't scum ngl

[Taco Hemingway]

I have a red check.
I will reveal it later.

[Taco Hemingway]

Oh wait mafia died last night lol

Anya hardclaim now.

[Taco Hemingway]

I got a positive result on Anya

[Taco Hemingway]

No, anya needs to hardclaim first then I will reveal my full role.

[Taco Hemingway]

Ok buddy.

[Taco Hemingway]

On the off chance they ARE truly just a false positive I am giving them a chance to claim before they get any hints as to what roles are positive results on my role.

[Taco Hemingway]

u can vote me all u want rn idgaf I'm still waiting on anya, your impatience is just annoying.

[Taco Hemingway]

just sit down for a bit and let me do my thing, you don't know better than me thanks!

[Taco Hemingway]

malefactor would vote me here btw to help ww so lol if i get speedhammered here bc people are being impatient

[Taco Hemingway]

anya is forfeiting if theyre claiming VT here

[Taco Hemingway]

People who are voting me who are town are throwing

[Taco Hemingway]

Im occultist

[Taco Hemingway]

Im losing a lot of respect for ppl speedlinming me here

[Taco Hemingway]

Like imagine i was hammered without outing a result fucking clown behavior

[Taco Hemingway]

You're not confused. You're judt trying to save face bc of how terribad your vote was

[Taco Hemingway]

Anya is 100% guilty based on her VT claim btw dont let her change it if i flip

[Taco Hemingway]

why not wait for a couple claims? its not like we dont have time

-Mister ocean

Cabd was thinking for them and now theyre lost and just sheep

[Taco Hemingway]

Is it cleric btw? Thats my false inno

[Taco Hemingway]

Ww, occult, roleblocker, seer are all red

[Taco Hemingway]

lol lukewarm is malefactor

[Taco Hemingway]

What if there's more scum we have to kill?

[Taco Hemingway]

What if there's more scum we have to kill?

[Taco Hemingway]

Lukewarm knows im town btw lol

[Taco Hemingway]

Lukewarm managing to outdo unwnd on bad level of reading me, a feat thats impressive.

[Taco Hemingway]

I fullclaimed

[Taco Hemingway]

Anya reacted by claiming Townie and thought i was claiming tracker lol

[Taco Hemingway]

Dgb was alive

[Taco Hemingway]

People fell on their face with their read on me and can't accept me possibly being town here because it hurts their ego <3 i

[Taco Hemingway]

Like i put attention on manatee early while anya pushed on neither flipped wolf. Yall just straight in denial

[Taco Hemingway]

How is it autowin, who yold you the split

[Taco Hemingway]

For all we know malefactor can win without group scum alive

[Taco Hemingway]

Its autowin either way its a 50 50 bc anya confirmed my report doesn't match their claim lol

[Taco Hemingway]

Luke should be policied if game continues after anya is limmed based on the uncharitableness theyre displaying post my info dump that should be clearing to them.
They literally even hinted at ww doc and i claimed it like they KNOW my role is legit theyre just being obtuse about it on purpose

[Taco Hemingway]

I claimed the name of it***

But ya

[Taco Hemingway]

and if there's more than 3 groupscum in factions?

[Taco Hemingway]

and if there's more than 3 groupscum in factions?

we POE your buddies to death.

-Mister Ocean

You are incorrigible.

[Taco Hemingway]

and if there's more than 3 groupscum in factions?

The the mod lied to us, and this is actually a bastard game, and I will be writing cephir a very strongly worded email

Where is it listed theres 3/3/1 for scum

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: TACO
send me to the gy chat im done here

yall don't deserve a perfect game

[Taco Hemingway]

lol flailing scum

Eat crow

[Taco Hemingway]

Cabd carried you by merit of being right on several scum past their death. You did no reading. I really hope its 4/4 just so i can watch and laugh from the gy post anya flip

[Taco Hemingway]

Ah well then its auto.
You're welcome for making it easy

[Taco Hemingway]

Its just how my role works im not the creator

[Taco Hemingway]

scum regretting not speedlimming t3 d1 when they had the chance

^^^^^^

[Taco Hemingway]

Im glad i hesitated on it too

[Taco Hemingway]

I wonder who malefactor was

[Taco Hemingway]

>.>
VOTE: anya

[Taco Hemingway]

Which roles would have checked red for me?

[Taco Hemingway]

Aside from balance (this was probably townsided but the dayplay gap obviously was so massive that nothing mattered), I would also probably let the malefactor roll mason/monk, that seems more entertaining

I think my role also gave me too much info power

[Taco Hemingway]

the way it was nearly impossible for me to be scum despite having off reads and still got fosed so heavily lol

Just follow the opposite of unwnds read and thats my alignment usually js

[Taco Hemingway]

did u check me and make me suffer

[Taco Hemingway]

ok im done with work so i can type more now- thanks cabd for the carry just hopefully you realize people who push on scum(manatee) and are just simply absent doesn't incriminate them >:(

Like shoulda just said if i was scum i was prob ww or malefactor bc yeppp pain this game bc of sheep

[Taco Hemingway]

I only SR'd Taco to protect them from getting shot at night

true story

Thats why u voted me daystart right

[Taco Hemingway]

i wish my bp mattered ;_;

gg glad i got to troll unwnd for a bit but i could not keep up with that amount of content d1. scary large games. gg!

stop being unreadable for me

[Taco Hemingway]

Scum got screwed by rand early tho rip lol.

[Taco Hemingway]

"just bum rush posting and look for who feels the need to freeze and ponder what to do" is going to continue to be a breaking winstrat until people figure out a way around it. This exact same strat has broken a TON of themes in the past 3 years.

This does not work against me ever. In fact i love rushing as scum

[Taco Hemingway]

cabdddddddd I WANTED TO SAY ANYA WAS SCUM BC BLOCKED KILL
but cephy was being all weird
and then I was like WHAT IF THEY BOTH KILLED MORPH
and then I was like UGHHHH
and everyone was like wolves killed echo and that was total bullshit so I was like it had to be wolves excited to take on the narrative that morph's reads are wrong
so then I was like VECNA IS WOLF
but then they flipped scum wtf I was so confused

It was reasonable to assume a double shot on morph - but my guilty sealed the deal which was good. You should have claimed it though. I still woulda checked there but it woulda helped my NKA better xD

[Taco Hemingway]

I just want to add in, for manatees sake, the scum read on you was purely due to your interaction with us in the PT and it solidified when you showed us that you can actually play mafia.

I didnt care that you wanted to use the masonry to mafia hunt because thats what i wanted to do as well, but the lack of apparent paranoia gave you away

Like I said

Enemy of my enemy is my friend



We had a common enemy to go after in the mafia and it was a good idea to use that to our advantage

But we also had to sort our masonmates

she was howling before that point

[Taco Hemingway]

yeah as malefactor you need to basically let scum teams do their things so nightplay catches up to town play while not being an obvious malefactor.

[Taco Hemingway]

you got binned as scum pretty early on and I think u shoulda leaned into it and ate a lim if anything. thats what the worst case scenario for a malefactor should be, is dying d1. esp over a scum.

[Taco Hemingway]

Strongman 1-shot on each team.

but if there is two docs, shouldn't that take out the strongman?

docs protect from different types of kills

[Taco Hemingway]

no, you're essentially a traitor who can win with either scum team.

[Taco Hemingway]

so there were 3.5 scum on each team here. that's exactly why I deduces its 3/3 split.

[Taco Hemingway]

this game is further proof for me that masonries are +ev or -ev purely based on rand lmao after seeing who was the monk team...

if you want to be a better mason/monk a big tip is that YOU ARE INFORMED. People WILL read you as informed. This will inevitably lead to people solving the game around you thinking you might be scum because you are acting weird around your partners. Like if your read gets called wrong... listen to people instead of acting entitled because you know you're a role who is self clearing with a group of others... put your ego away when you're mason/monk. You're an activated IC who is acting as a VT. That's it. You know people are town yes, but people that aren't informed of that don't KNOW that. thank u for reading this mason PSA(as mason is my fave role but also frustrating to play against when played wrong)

[Taco Hemingway]

For the record I don't exactly trust Taco but the mechanically correct play is to force Anya to claim first.

If Taco initiates a hard 1v1, we're guaranteed a scum.

If Taco backs down and fullclaims after Anya claims, then we can assess both individuals' claims and see if there's 0 or 1 wolves between them and if 1 which one it is.

But either way we don't force Taco to fullclaim first (claiming who the result is on is enough) and we don't eliminate Taco before Anya claims.

<3 thanks mastina for being a voice of reason this was the correct play.

[Taco Hemingway]

In a gamestate where scum isn't getting limmed left and right its aight but I think the best play was on D2 to fake a guilty on me.


Ofc that requires people to know how to read me so

[Taco Hemingway]

sorry for all the post game venting no more posts about me i promise <3

just needed to get all that out my system. this game will be very useful to cite for the future thowhenever any of this PL tries to claim any sort of accuracy on me >:)

[Taco Hemingway]

you ego voted me.

[Taco Hemingway]

"put your ego away when you're mason/monk"