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[Gamma Emerald]

im legit so hyped rn like ive never been so excited to lose omg omg omg omg omg

Wut

VOTE: FakeGod
I don’t think I’ve seen you as a player ever, this’ll be new for me!

[Gamma Emerald]

okay about the setup: obviously if we were perfect we'd figure out a way to create a list of townreads, congregate all the top townreads on each wagon and concentrate the powers such that the townreads are always on the wagon together but uh yeah hmm 17p all agreeing just isnt it so i guess what im saying is that president dannflor needs to charm us all into salvation and we just need to pray that dann rolled town

:/

[Gamma Emerald]

this seems like a lot of words to not play the game

this seems like a lot of words to not play the game

Could you expand on what you mean here. It's honestly too vague for me to quite understand the point you're trying to make?

Seems a bit like he’s against breaking the setup
Ooookay

[Gamma Emerald]

So I don’t expect I’ll be very good at directly breaking the setup but I should be able to be a questions asker at times as well as someone to just get stuff done

[Gamma Emerald]

im legit so hyped rn like ive never been so excited to lose omg omg omg omg omg

Wut

VOTE: FakeGod
I don’t think I’ve seen you as a player ever, this’ll be new for me!

we kill this first

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Thanks for the warm welcome

[Gamma Emerald]

I would also vote Gamma Emerald if the game had started! We need to save up some gems and unlock it!

What the hell does this mean

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Dusa
just no

[Gamma Emerald]

Because hopefully that will make it stop

[Gamma Emerald]

Because hopefully that will make it stop

Okay.

Why should it stop?

Because it’s annoying and will make them harder to read

[Gamma Emerald]

Because it’s early and I don’t wanna have to deal will whatever gimmick Dusa is doing all game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Feels a bit like you yourself are trying rather hard to justify your vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Feels a bit like you yourself are trying rather hard to justify your vote

Do you have any reply to the actual content?

There’s way more I could have done if bullying off of me was the intent, towards Dusa or others

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I’m feeling like qoobee is town already here
Most genuine-seeming player so far

[Gamma Emerald]

Bell is scum.

Wanna hit me with some details?

[Gamma Emerald]

Default townread bell trust me, if hes scum he historically becomes very obvious and with a setup like this u just gotta put faith

This ^

[Gamma Emerald]

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

Take a quick look at my join date and tell me whether you think is valid

[Gamma Emerald]

The thing about Dusa’s posting that’s making me upset is shit like “collecting ambrosia”. Like, what’s that got to do with ANYTHING? Maybe it’s connected to some game or show I’m not aware of but until that’s confirmed it just looks like nonsense

[Gamma Emerald]

Ambrosia is a material you need in the game, hades, that they’re a gimmick of. It’s just a collectible that allows you to unlock abilities, weapons, and perks in that game.

Also, how do you not know that the game hade’s exist?

I know of it but not the mechanics

[Gamma Emerald]

GAMMA EMERALD's probably town for an annoyance-vote on DUSA and then openly admitting it's there because he's annoyed at the gimmick, rather than faking a jabbernut reason

Gamma Emerald isn't that bad at being bad! He wouldn't make that mistake! He's experienced enough for at least 11 heat!

I don’t get what you’re saying here

[Gamma Emerald]

I was gonna yell at Dusa but damn

this is pretty obviously an experienced player

why would you be yelling at Dusa if they were new?
Honestly you kinda just seem like a jerk, are you always like this when playing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I kinda feel like Bell is town but it's early so I could be wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: solo

I can give a more thorough answer when I get home from work GuiltyLion, but I do see the case for Bell being a bit LAMIST, in fact that’s why I was pushing him for content early on. Once he moved away from mech talk I got less of those vibes and I thought his initial impressions were fairly nuanced + his frequent posting has seemed pretty natural compared to where I sometimes felt he was forcing himself to post in a stilted manner when he was scum

I don't see any reasoning for the vote here?
also

@MOD you miscounted Bell's vote

fixed, thanks.
-nsg

[Gamma Emerald]

I was gonna yell at Dusa but damn

this is pretty obviously an experienced player

why would you be yelling at Dusa if they were new?
Honestly you kinda just seem like a jerk, are you always like this when playing?

Honestly you kinda just seem like a jerk, are you always like this when playing?

Yes and no? I can be prickly but I'm also coming off of a pretty upsetting game, Fenrir was in it too
PEdit: ohhhhkay

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: fakegod
I do feel like he has a bad vibe but I'm definitely not certain about it

[Gamma Emerald]

Hasn't Summoned Guy Fieri Yet:

OkaPoka

WHAT?

[Gamma Emerald]

FakeGod conspiracy theorizing about the mafia team all immediately cowering at his reads on them is +town I think. It made me laugh.

Do you think someone is townier if they make you laugh?? C-could I make you laugh??!? If I made you laugh you might like me!! I want you to like me so much Hypothermia!!

I like this thought

[Gamma Emerald]

DGB, you still consider yourself stronger in lategame?

I need to play more games to answer this question.

I was about to react to this with shock but then I fully comprehended the original question

[Gamma Emerald]

Best acquaintances:

Oka, Bell, Gamma, Dann

Intrigued by:

GuiltyLion, Dusa

Very mad at:

FakeGod, Hypothermia

...is this a read list?

[Gamma Emerald]

Even if people do OMGUS when someone basically calls you annoying to the point you need to die (whether or not he had other motives) it makes you feel like shit. And who wants to interact with that?

Before I dive into this, I want to make clear that after I figured out Dusa's deal I was FINE.
Anyway, if we're talking about responses that make people feel unwelcome, how about FakeGod voting my expression of excitement at getting to play with him? That comes off as a distinct "go fuck yourself" to me, how about you?

[Gamma Emerald]

why is it me

i explained my reason for voting gamma

ngl, you feel

different

to mini 2213 and I don't exactly like that
like in that game you were practically blindingly obvtown

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma why are you taking it so personal

because that's kinda how I am, it's not the first time I've taken something like that

[Gamma Emerald]

Pedantic maybe but why’s Bell solidly town in 337 and then probably in 338 alongside Bingle? You distinguished them separately. @QB

Fuck it whatever etc etc.

good question

[Gamma Emerald]

apeshit

Who?????

[Gamma Emerald]

ehh fakegod voting you does not mean anything and can't mean anything other than he scumreads u (or at least wants to give that appearance off)

that's fair yuri, but i feel like your posts had the goal of squashing mech talk and if that's the case i don't see how that aligns with you trying to find someone you tr and is competent on mechtalk. i think someone with your stated goals would be more, ignoring mechtalk rather than saying stuff like imma vig the people who talk about it lulz

but I refuse to believe he could have formed a reasoned and logical scumread off of that ONE POST
as such, it feels personal.

[Gamma Emerald]

How do people read Gamma Emerald and Dannfloor?

is this asking people's reads on us, or how to read us in the first place...?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hasn't Summoned Guy Fieri Yet:

OkaPoka

WHAT?

This is completely unrelated to the game:

Oka quoted a bunch of smashmouth in TM as a crumb thing and I'm poking fun about that. (The lead singer for smashmouth looks just like Guy Fierri.) Mostly because there are people tr-ing him for being happy and he has never not done that ime.

okay
because if there's anyone liable to summon Guy Fieri, it's DrEasyBake

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gunna put up Okapoka as the second plotter.
Not scum per se, but definitely plotting something.
Look at that chicken avatar. The mind of a criminal resides within.

do u have proper reads

[Gamma Emerald]

like honestly I could picture the "you're plotting something" line being a substitute for legitimate scumhunting

[Gamma Emerald]

Taking different approach, max 10 words allowed per post

uhhhh shit
have you done this before?

[Gamma Emerald]

My thought for Gamma as scum still is like, scum!Gamma doesn’t know how to reply or opts to ignore it and gets some more pressure and sees people say look how he doesn’t care and he takes that as advice immediately and continues being aloof but still around because people don’t expect that from scum!him and like, why not do what gets him good reads.

I...don't like how it feels like you're tuning out Dann's read on me, especially given your proximity to his meta example

[Gamma Emerald]

something about their vote on me just seems kind of forced it's mostly a gut read

why is the best thing you can muter to explain your reads this game "their content feels forced"

[Gamma Emerald]

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

Take a quick look at my join date and tell me whether you think is valid

I mean based on what I remember of your scumgame I wouldn't say it's invalid

any comment on this @gamma

I mean I kinda misread the post anyway
but I think we both have potentially valid opinions

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway, if we're talking about responses that make people feel unwelcome, how about FakeGod voting my expression of excitement at getting to play with him? That comes off as a distinct "go fuck yourself" to me, how about you?

you voted me, I voted you back

apparently by doing so I told you to "go fuck yourself" and it made you feel unwelcome, and now you're throwing a tantrum

this be a game of mafia; you do realize how ridiculous you're being right now

Do you have no concept of time? Do you not realize how much time existed between your vote and mine? Why are you trying to assert it was in direct response to your vote?
and I don't believe you had anything to say when I had this reaction in SFA so why are you trying to call me out like this now?

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably by virtue of being one of our only players to “break” the setup, unless Bingle is town

or he could just, not

[Gamma Emerald]

I...may have quoted the wrong post

[Gamma Emerald]

It means to play to an audience.
Like when you put on a performance to conquer a girl to remove the evil spirit feeding on her negative emotions.

what? What?? WHAT??!??

[Gamma Emerald]

like what is that example, what is the refrance

[Gamma Emerald]

the chad soviet cosmonaut vs the virgin capitalist astronaut

if you're who I think you are I'm very happy to see you again
there is one person I have seen on this site who is as enamoured by communism as you seem to be

[Gamma Emerald]

like what is that example, what is the refrance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wor ... Only_Knows

so "conquer" in other word means "court"
Got it.

[Gamma Emerald]

If it’s who I think it is yes I would very much appreciate Yuri being here.

Yes that’s a targeted guilt trip.

wow, I can't believe u would do me like this

(also I have a guess on you just from your avi and user lmao)

I actually slipped you goon.

It’s so you though. Hi!!!

*checks activity list*

called it

hi!! idk why you bother alting when ur so obvious with all of them honestly

(we r excepting that one alt, u know which one I mean)

errrr
you're probably not who I think you are

[Gamma Emerald]

back to despair i have nobody to copy reads off of

honestly same
my reads feel very slow-to-develop this game so hopefully someone can just tell me what to do
Like, I'd probably say my townreads so far are something like Qoobee/Yuri/Dusa/Oka?/Bell?/Dann? but like, the ones with question marks don't really feel great at all rn
and my only solid SR is Fenrir, FG is being weird but idk if it's scummy, I'm starting to think it is though based on how bad his perception of the facts is rn
I also just kinda feel like crap in general irl

[Gamma Emerald]

add solo to TRs with a question mark actually

[Gamma Emerald]

Did you get blessings from Karl Marx though

daddy Marx came to me as a vision in the night to tell me how proud he was of me for owning the American Space Program and all the nazis in it

omg this meme

[Gamma Emerald]

You should nap and maybe when you wake up I can pull you out of despair

that's kinda my problem rn, my sleep schedule is pretty effed, and it's messing up my mood
it's been getting better recently but not by much

[Gamma Emerald]

add solo to TRs with a question mark actually

?

Did you look at his reads list?

yes? what's wrong with it

[Gamma Emerald]

FakeGod conspiracy theorizing about the mafia team all immediately cowering at his reads on them is +town I think. It made me laugh.

Do you think someone is townier if they make you laugh?? C-could I make you laugh??!? If I made you laugh you might like me!! I want you to like me so much Hypothermia!!

I like this thought

What is townie about this thought?

it calls out a bias that I think is fair to question
like, the post is in essence questioning the legitimacy of a townread formed because someone "made you laugh". Unless someone is known for sounding flat as scum, that seems like allowing yourself to be manipulated by people with good senses of humor.

[Gamma Emerald]

The one you mistakenly tried to copy, in which one person is the solo voter for 5 days. A variant on that in which one person is the solo voter for 5 days and then self votes. I'm not interested in pursuing either of those strategies due to both a lack of fun and it taking 60 days.

okay this is actually magnificent in theory, the idea of solo voter offing themself the last day leaving everyone else to be in the "sixth" hood and keeping this as essentially a regular game of mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Granting myself unlimited word count for read lists

Town:

Gamma

UNOwen
Bell
Qoobee

Oka

Save Dragons

Town?:

Yuri
Dusa

Dannflor

Guiltylion

Cupcake Butterfly

Scum?:

FakeGod
Bingle

Scum:

DGB
Hypothermia
Lavar

He's also naked voting Dann and Dann had not posted between the publication of that naked vote and the publication of these reads.

okay what's the problem with the boded, but yeah that vote doesn't make sense
still think outside of that he's towny

[Gamma Emerald]

bolded*

[Gamma Emerald]

What is townie about this thought?

alright listen up

you ain't saying much, and much of what you are saying are just filler stuff

you can salvage this by bringing me a dead scum soonish

you do realize he can't really pull that off alone and would need assistance? What is this garbage

[Gamma Emerald]

It's interesting that Fakegod shifted his opinion of Yuri from 422 to 527 (I think this is good). I thought Fakegod was a little suspicious before because he didn't seem to be scumhunting.

I think you're scum.

VOTE: Lavar

You're growing on me, like a mold

I'd compare FG to mold in a different manner

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I don't consider that plan viable
I just think it's really damn smart

[Gamma Emerald]

or in other words i dont believe u

why do you think I lie about my emotions here
like, I'm pretty much one of the most honest people when it comes to laying my emotions out in terms of mafia games

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would fakegod hate you as a person given you’ve never played before

I've played in games he's modded
he could have formed an opinion of my personality through that

[Gamma Emerald]

there a reason you didn't explain why the TR on me was premature? Everything else got rationalized

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m just surprised you would think his vote on me is weird

why is it not weird?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd compare FG to mold in a different manner

you randomly called me out for telling you to go fuck yourself when all I did was VOTE you and now you're just casually throwing insults at me?

I don't think I'm going to enjoy this game after all.

I mean to say that your play stinks
my apologies, I probably should have been more clear about that

[Gamma Emerald]

like, I have nothing against you personally, I just think your opinions and expectations aren't exactly realistic

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you have no concept of time? Do you not realize how much time existed between your vote and mine? Why are you trying to assert it was in direct response to your vote?
and I don't believe you had anything to say when I had this reaction in SFA so why are you trying to call me out like this now?

no, you're whining that I voted you

you got pissed and voted me, then called me out in 594 telling everyone I told you to go fuck yourself

I voted you because I had a bad feeling about you
one that has only continued to be perceived as the game has progressed

the personal attack thing has nothing to do with that. I don't like you trying to construe my vote on you as some emotional meltdown, it feels like you're trying to not actually address my real issue because you don't know how to get around it

[Gamma Emerald]

there a reason you didn't explain why the TR on me was premature? Everything else got rationalized

Did I not?

Oh. He's been townreading you since long before you started being active and solvey. His reasoning was basically "Gamma has emotions."

okay yeah that's not a reason to TR me
me being honest about emotions doesn't mean I don't get emotional as scum, it's just I rarely if ever try to fully fake an emotional reaction for towncred.

[Gamma Emerald]

There's definitely a better time and place to discuss CBT and the importance of recontextualization than in the middle of a game of mafia. Please deescalate and don't fight.

who is this @

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you accidentally sniped at FG in that post which could bait him into a response. Leading to more finger pointing.

wdym

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I've mostly moved past it and continued mentions are a result of others?

[Gamma Emerald]

which is to say I don't feel guilty for any derailing that's currently going on

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t want you to be guilty. You should probably in the future just inquire what a person meant by what they said or did for clarification purposes. Rather than making assumptions.

I really should, that's a problem I have irl

[Gamma Emerald]

bell/hypothermia/bingle/guilty = perhaps townie?
dann/solo/yuri/cupcake = perhaps scummy?

I wanna hear more about guilty and cupcake because for me they’re kinda UtR

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are indignant and manipulative the descriptors you’ve chosen?

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you explain the “how” of those?

[Gamma Emerald]

Schrödinger’s cat was actually originally satirical iirc
I don’t recall the actual meaning but I know it wasn’t meant to be used as it is these days

[Gamma Emerald]

Town:
Bell, Guiltylion for good reason i think

Oka why did you have me as town here

p-edit: Gamma I'm not really following your question, I think my last post is pretty clear. He's projecting frustration at Dusa seemingly not re-evaluating him on the basis of his recent posts. If he's town, that's genuine indignance. If he's scum, he knows she's right and is trying to manipulate her away from voting him / into townreading him. What are you not understanding?

That actually helped significantly

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll say you do feel like town for that thought process GL

[Gamma Emerald]

The first hood is the first to shoot so if possible we should make that one the mostly-good one

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk if this is actually valid but iirc I’m actually not bad at reading scum!ydrasse

[Gamma Emerald]

conveniently in my catchup I now have an example, I think Solo is still more likely town, but I disagree with a fair amount of this readslist and as a result I have questions about it

Granting myself unlimited word count for read lists

Town:

Gamma
UNOwen
Bell
Qoobee
Oka
Save Dragons

Town?:

Yuri
Dusa
Dannflor
Guiltylion
Cupcake Butterfly

Scum?:

FakeGod
Bingle

Scum:

DGB
Hypothermia
Lavar

Solo - why Qoobee/Dragons town, and why DGB scum?

I’ve also asserted Qoobee is town, why did you not ask me about it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m really sorry dude
I’ll try to be more civil, would you like to take the conversation from the top?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m actually starting to have fun this game but I don’t want that to be at the expense of someone else’s enjoyment

[Gamma Emerald]

im legit so hyped rn like ive never been so excited to lose omg omg omg omg omg

Wut

VOTE: FakeGod
I don’t think I’ve seen you as a player ever, this’ll be new for me!

we kill this first

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

What was your original issue with this post?

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s kinda fair
It’s just the confidence in the post where FG voted me felt unreal
Like based on the context FG decided I was scum off of my first post, which was me reacting to your post and expressing excitement to play with FG for the first time
That’s not enough to say “we should kill this” imo. Maybe in a chat mafia environment that tracks, because you have less time to read people, and I’ve been legitimately caught out like that. But I don’t think reaching that sort of conclusion off one post in forum mafia makes sense. My brain then filled in the blanks by assuming the worst of FG’s motives. That’s a problem I have a lot, where I assume the worst of people.

[Gamma Emerald]

why? I don't think so myself

[Gamma Emerald]

you know what, I'm intrigued. Who'd you get confused for him?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Save the Dragons
I'm not enthused by his posting myself and I think my vote should be elsewhere if I'm trying to rebuild the bridge with FG

[Gamma Emerald]

Bell/UNOwen why are you voting Yuri rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think LavarManos is town! When he shared thoughts earlier it seemed like he had had them all along!

I'm behind! Please forgive me!

Are you saying this just to be a devil's advocate or do you actually think he has been townie?

I thought he made a townie post! He has been posting not so much! However! Gods are slaves to their natures! I bet he always doesn't post much!

Yes, but he could also be the weak link in the scum team.
Or the town team. I don’t think you should defend him.

I don’t like this post

[Gamma Emerald]

okay I didn't mind Oka's vote but it feels like every single vote after that on Yuri has just been sheeping that reason which I don't really think is good enough

but that's probably because I'm also on the side of holy hell stop the mech talk for a bit

but in 5 additional votes on Yuri I haven't seen one new reason that I recall

Valid take

[Gamma Emerald]

Bell/UNOwen why are you voting Yuri rn?

I felt like he was kind of flailing when I pushed at him. Calling people chad's, calling me boring etc. It all seemed designed to discredit me through indirect ad hominems. Or however you spell it.

Pedit: Okay.

Jsyk the boring tell kinda flopped in between now and G&R5

[Gamma Emerald]

some things have happened in my personal life and I don't know when I'll be back or capable of playing

I don't want to rep out on principle, do what you will

Dann, your dream better not be a prophecy.

What???

[Gamma Emerald]

FYI the what was at the bottom post but also kinda works in reaction to the top one, since it feels like Yuri is half-accepting getting wagoned

[Gamma Emerald]

;-;
FG I tried to restore good relations and you seem to be overlooking it
Pls notice me senpai

[Gamma Emerald]

im legit so hyped rn like ive never been so excited to lose omg omg omg omg omg

Wut

VOTE: FakeGod
I don’t think I’ve seen you as a player ever, this’ll be new for me!

we kill this first

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

What was your original issue with this post?

[Gamma Emerald]

You still need catching up?

[Gamma Emerald]

Iirc she moonlogics less as scum but it’s not universal?

[Gamma Emerald]

why do you trust me to be town?

[Gamma Emerald]

any more relevant thoughts to the core events rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

In the interest of peace and love on the planet earth please respond (1) (once) to Gamma Emerald.

[Gamma Emerald]

I will say as long as FG posts content I likely won’t be too bothered if I get ignored the rest of this game but I do want to make it clear I didn’t want it to be this way

[Gamma Emerald]

k, can someone else answer

Bell’s probably right

[Gamma Emerald]

Word of advice: I am ALWAYS Gentleman 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not a fan of cupcake myself looking at his contributions

[Gamma Emerald]

is it bad that the person who is popping up in my head as cupcake is a banned user

idk they haven't given me any vibes of anyone just because they haven't been around

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh,

lovely

.

Maybe

threatening to fade my existence will be the motivation I need to participate.

I'll confirm that I have no solid scumreads because I've read less than the first 20 pages of the game, even less with critical thought. Larges are not

my kink

what I thought I could keep up with.

To make this fun, I'd love to invite my opportunistic wagoners to a game!

The Wheel of Speech!

Here's how the game works...

Everybody on this wheel is assigned a number between 1 and 5 in clockwise order: Bingle as number 1, FakeGod, DrippingGoofball, Dannflor, and then Almost50 as number 5.

I will pick a number between 1 and 5 arbitrarily (you'll have to take my word for it, I don't know how to do the random number thingamajig in the forum text.) The person who's number I picked has several options:

1. Pick a person in the playerlist for me to personally ISO

and give tons of feedback on.

2. Force me to answer any question you have through a diagram

involving my reads, thoughts on the gamestate, or a reaction to YOUR commentary on anything. (Yes, the diagram may still have words attached.)

3. Pass...

You forgo your turn of participation, and I will continue to the next number I draw.

4. Deflect...

This is functionally like Pass, but you MUST choose ANOTHER player on the Wheel for them to enact their turn. If someone deflects to you though, you can still choose to pass.

You only get

ONE

turn until you're eliminated from the Wheel. So make sure you know what you want to do!

Yes, new players can still join the Wheel by

VOTING

me

BEFOR

E I get to the

LAST

player on the wheel. You will be counted into the wheel the following time at which I bring up the wheel again.

But Cupcake Butterfly! THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? I want to do MORE than one thing on my turn!

What if I wanted Cupcake to ISO MULTIPLE players at once?
What if I wanted Cupcake to answer MULTIPLE questions with a diagram?
What if I wanted Deflect to another player on Wheel AND force that crooked MF Cupcake to spew?

There is an

EASY

way to do so!
Just guess who my

MAIN

account is!! Any guess of who my main is will do!
You

ALL

have a good chance to figure out my main account! After all... I've played with 10 of you before

THAT I KNOW OF

... over half of which with multiple games.

I'm not a stranger.

Here's An Example How This Game Works With ALL Mechanics In Play

Cupcake:

Number 3.

DrippingGoofball:

PASS.

Cupcake:

Number 1

Bingle:

Deflect! Dannflor!

Dannflor:

I hate all of you. 1. ISO OkaPoka.

Cupcake:

*ISOs OkaPoka and gives a very in-depth read.*

OkaPoka:

I hate you, Cupcake.

OkaPoka Votes Cupcake Butterfly For Elimination... Since Numbers 1, 3, and 4 have already been used, the current numbers are: OkaPoka at 1. FakeGod at 2. Almost50 at 5.

Cupcake:

Number 5!

Almost50:

I think you are Zoraster! Number 2... Give me a diagram about x and y.

Cupcake:

GIRL, I WISH. OK, here's my poor artistic ability in full public detail.... Now, number 2!

FakeGod:

Deflect.

OkaPoka:

DAMN IT, FAKEGOD. OK, I think you're NANCY. ISO Gamma Emerald and Bell.

Cupcake:

*ISOs Gamma Emerald and Bell.*

Bell and Gamma Emerald vote Cupcake bringing to L-1, Cupcake is lolhammered. Game over... both due to lim, and because Bell, Gamma Emerald, and random person who voted Cupcake after last player on wheel was picked.

This is all VERY confusing so I can reiterate the rules once again!

But, here we go!

NUMBER ONE: BINGLE, YOU'RE UP!

...?
What's the end goal of this? What made you think/want to do this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Scumcakes and Moths

what's with the moths part

[Gamma Emerald]

With that said, CB's "I need help to get into a 40 page game that's been open for a week" doesn't jive with me as coming from town who has played with more than half the list, so my vote remains there atm.

Why?
I feel like I've have plenty of times where as town, I've been behind where I really should have been in terms of foothold in the game. I kinda think one game that ended recently functions as a solid example.

[Gamma Emerald]

this is purely a reads list and not an evaluation of character

some things have changed since last time I expressed reads on certain people, so I'll type up a more thorough text to go with this later but for now, AMA

Most curious about the scumreads rn

[Gamma Emerald]

i like titus for town

what does Bell!scum look like

Exactly like Town him

have you played with Bell?
Genuine question as I can't remember any time you have.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: cupcake butterfly
got townpings from Fenrir in some posts I saw quoted by A50, and I want in on CB's game so I'm moving there

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting.

[Gamma Emerald]

1118 uses ellipses and a question mark! It ices Cupcake out before asking him a question! This undermines the question! The question is performative!

A human who was good writing this post might write "...?" and nothing else! It looks like Gamma Emerald wrote his human response but then by wrote wanted to add a dutiful due diligence and question about something he had fully decided was stupid because he is supposed to be investigating if he's good!

This is absolutely correct

But what about it makes me scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

It looks like the people who posted since Gamma Emerald's last spree are Cupcake Butterfly and Almost50!
I think that spree is so bad that people who did not vote him for it are likely to also be bad!

This post itself looks haphazardly written in a way that doesn’t flow naturally
The logical way to write this is “I think Gamma’s last string of posts was bad, these people are suspect for not thinking the same thing”
I feel like Dusa may be trying to deflect attention from actual scum with this maneuver

[Gamma Emerald]

This is an inorganic progression on a slot from a single reading! Hephaestus made this! Gamma Emerald got help from Hephaestus and pretended otherwise!

Is Hephaestus representative of anyone in this game?
Also I don’t particularly feel like my progression is as bad as you make it out to be, the second post was made more out of a place of questioning Bingle vs. defending CB

[Gamma Emerald]

Once CB flips scum I feel like Dusa should be flipped next

[Gamma Emerald]

That was @Dusa specifically

[Gamma Emerald]

It looks like the people who posted since Gamma Emerald's last spree are Cupcake Butterfly and Almost50!
I think that spree is so bad that people who did not vote him for it are likely to also be bad!

This post itself looks haphazardly written in a way that doesn’t flow naturally
The logical way to write this is “I think Gamma’s last string of posts was bad, these people are suspect for not thinking the same thing”
I feel like Dusa may be trying to deflect attention from actual scum with this maneuver

Do you think that post is particularly haphazardly written in the context of the rest of Dusa's ISO?

Yeah
Everything else I’ve seen at least seemed to have proper logical flow even if I couldn’t focus in on it

[Gamma Emerald]

Once CB flips scum I feel like Dusa should be flipped next

Gamma, this feels... overly confident

I also don't think it's logical that scum!Dusa voting you is a way to protect scum!CB, like your vote wasn't even particularly threatening, it was "I want to join CB's game so I will vote"

I think the logical comes in with the fact Dusa had previously posted something attempting to tie me to CB
And like, the thing that bothers me is the fact Dusa thought CB was scum but decided “fuck that wagon I want to push this other person now!” That feels like Dusa was rushing for a way to deflect pressure.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald is reacting like someone caught robbing Charon!

He is threatened by a single vote in a large field because he knows I am being insightful! He feels extra bad because it's me of all people! Dannflor has pointed out an illogical way of viewing what I'm doing!
Please don't miss this just because it's a large Olympic game with so many ongoing events! This is a very distinct case of evil transparent!

I don’t even fucking know who you are, why would I feel threatened by you

[Gamma Emerald]

Also

@Dann

I asked a question about your reads which as of now has gone unanswered

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I’m ready to start considering FG town

[Gamma Emerald]

If we’re murdering gamma I want myself, dann, dusa, t3, Dgb guiltylion and fakegod on it. After that I don’t care much whose on it. Would it be a good idea to have gamma self vote here or no?

I don’t exactly feel great about the last few suggestions
T3 DGB and GL don’t feel like they belong IMO

[Gamma Emerald]

Because those are the names that stick out the most
I didn’t include Dusa for fairness (my feelings aren’t emblematic of thread sentiment) and FG has been growing on me

[Gamma Emerald]

FG is there a reason it feels like you’re defending me here?

[Gamma Emerald]

...........

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I’m gonna act on the vibes of T3 vs. Qoobee
Re-reading Qoobee’s ISO I feel less sure of the town feelings I saw

[Gamma Emerald]

???

[Gamma Emerald]

wait lmao I hadn't even seen 1091, the fact that Gamma replied to 1064 to question it but then completely ignored 1091 when he decided to vote CB just further makes him look Bad

honestly I'm not seeing a lot of super interesting or useful content otherwise in this section I hadn't read

I didn’t see anything in 1091 that felt like it answered my question

[Gamma Emerald]

Well excuse me, my eyes had glazed over at that point

[Gamma Emerald]

whatever
Seems like you jerks have decided I’m scum and are trying to route every argument to that conclusion again

[Gamma Emerald]

also I think the nature of my Gamma read was very gut / emotion based and that's something that can easily change for me based on more recent evidence

Iirc your TR on me was this way too
What I wanna know is with this self-awareness why was I in your S tier? Read strength should be balanced with the certainty of the read
If you have a strong paranoia of someone for a fringe logic that shouldn’t be listed as a primary scumread (unless you have literally nothing else)

[Gamma Emerald]

thanks for modding!

dusa should have died over me

You say this but a bunch of people thought Dusa was my partner after I died

[Gamma Emerald]

apparently no one wants to play scum any more, which is weird

everyone wanted to be scum back in the day

I second this observation

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw FakeGod, no hard feelings?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll admit that’s on me but something to understand about me is I get an idea in my head for any length of time, and if it’s negative it then starts to grow like mold on bread, until I’ve convinced myself my preconception is reality
There’s the explanation for how I ended up reacting how I did, do with it what you will.