Situation Room [Game Over!]

[T3]

Hello, guy with no aavatar and stupid username is here.
UNVOTE: whoever i am voting

[T3]

CB/Noraa still scum.

LMAO

You must guess when it's YOUR turn, silly! You could give a Cupcake Butterfly picture so you can force me to do your bidding, within the negotiated rules~

That is... a strange anime.

[T3]

I watched it as an 11 year old kid and had nightmares about it for a month after. Not kidding.

[T3]

As for the actual game and - not - uh.... - the anime girls from reading the past few pages I tr Bell.

[T3]

Honestly any site regular not playing the game is probably in here on an alt.

[T3]

I'm liking Dannflor.

[T3]

This is an inorganic progression on a slot from a single reading! Hephaestus made this! Gamma Emerald got help from Hephaestus and pretended otherwise!

Is Hephaestus representative of anyone in this game?
Also I don’t particularly feel like my progression is as bad as you make it out to be, the second post was made more out of a place of questioning Bingle vs. defending CB

Hephestus was the greek god of fire? I think. So I think Dusa means you got help in the scum pt with that read?

[T3]

I’m a lot less hot on UNOwen now

UNOwen pings me as ifferent than the scum game I had with him idk why so probably town.

[T3]

Recent posts seem like scum having no idea what to do for gama. VOTE: gamma

[T3]

"wagon composition?" Like with the neighborhoods?

[T3]

He wouldn't be added to a neighborhood, right?

[T3]

So it seems we want all the universal townreads in the neighborhood.

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@BEll: I don't recall having seen you do this kind of planning as either alignment. Why did you decide to change your playstyle in this game?

I don't like this post, I think Bell is town by mechspeak/not.

[T3]

If we’re murdering gamma I want myself, dann, dusa, t3, Dgb guiltylion and fakegod on it. After that I don’t care much whose on it. Would it be a good idea to have gamma self vote here or no?

[T3]

Almost got the pagetop.

[T3]

Why specifically that list of players?

[T3]

What about Titus? Her posts gut pinged me as somewhat towny. There was also the don't hammer until I am caught up post.

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Yeah but all the gimmick alts.

[T3]

What wincon might that be?

[T3]

Unless Bells play has drastically change he's basically locktown by meta.


Yuri, if you're not having fun then you can just replace out.

[T3]

To my knowledge it’s against the rules to suggest someone rep out. I got warned once for it. Just an FYI so you don’t get in trouble t3. I doubt any action will be taken since you probably didn’t know.

Ah, oops.

[T3]

Why do people townread Dusa?

[T3]

I find her hard to read because of the gimmick.

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Honestly the writing style is throwing me off.

[T3]

Honestly the writing style is throwing me off.

Is it scummy or just weird?

Just weird.

I replaced Qoobee.

[T3]

Fair. I agree with hwrer point on gamma so I'll come back to her later.

[T3]

@BEll: I don't recall having seen you do this kind of planning as either alignment. Why did you decide to change your playstyle in this game?

I don't like this post, I think Bell is town by mechspeak/not.

I don't like this post. I am not following the thought process to a T(3)

Mechspeak, especially in a game like this isn't AI.

[T3]

I've found that most accusations of too much mechspeak not enough content usually come from mafia.

[T3]

Why do people townread Dusa?

I find her hard to read because of the gimmick.

I also disagree that the gimmick is making her hard to read, she's done a lot more than most players in this game in terms of giving reads and making pushes. though I don't know if me playing a lot of Hades is biasing me there helping to understand the voice/character she's roleplaying.

What I want to know is why you voted Gamma if you don't have a comfortable read on Dusa, or why you don't townread Dusa if you think Gamma's scum? Dusa initiated the Gamma wagon and has been pounding the table for it non-stop since.

I'm saying the gimmick makes her hard to get a good tone read on, but I agree with her points so I'll leave her alone for now.

[T3]

I don't scumread Dusa at all and I think a gamma flip will help me get a better sense of her alignment.

[T3]

I also disagree with an all town sounding wagon, as it can breed paranoia. Let's get mostly town with one or two nulls to allow for sorting of those slots rather than paranoia or circlejerk.

An all town sounding neighborhood might be all town. A few nulls added might be scum and would be able to influence the neighborhood for their means.

[T3]

an all town sounding neighborhood is unlikely to be all town

just town sounding

True, but I don't get what adding nulls accomplishes.

[T3]

So far the only person who I want on every single hood is Bell (and me).

A50 and Titus have droped in my reads from this page.

[T3]

Bell, will you be around tonight to help me sort the active scum out? Even if Yuri CB and Gamma are all scum, like I suspect, two must be more active. Yet no one is seriously defending these three slots. It's a very odd dynamic that I haven't seen before.

Note: This offer/request to be my sounding board is not unique to Bell.

You, A50.

[T3]

Thoughts on FakeGod quickhammer?

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Yeah. I don't think scum would be that obvious about wanting to get into a neighborhood.

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Dusa, FakeGod and Bell are very likely town.

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Looking at the EoD vc once GuiltyLion voted the other wagons started to lose steam and Gamma became inevitable. By that point all the scum are going to want to discreetly pile on Gamma. I know I also voted Gamma but (I think) I had just replaced in and then voted him for basically flailing.

[T3]

VOTE: gamma

And here we have...
DRUMROLL PLEASE!
The discreet piling on.
VOTE: std

[T3]

oh shit this is nightless

Oh

shit

?

[T3]

Votecount 1.33

Target	Wagon
Cupcake Butterfly (4)	Bingle (976), FakeGod (981), Almost50 (1013), Gamma Emerald (1123)
Yuri Gagarin (4)	Bell (502), OkaPoka (758), UNOwen (811), Titus (877)
Gamma Emerald (4)	Dusa (1132), Dannflor (1152), DrippingGoofball (1154), GuiltyLion (1165)
GuiltyLion (2)	Yuri Gagarin (805), Save The Dragons (880)
Not Voting (3)	Cupcake Butterfly, LavarManos, T3 (1070)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-25 19:26:59).

Hi t3

a history lesson

here's the wagon compositions before i voted

at what point was gamma inevitable

was it really before he had a plurality of votes

Not inevitable,but the other wagons people had stopped voting or talking about. VOTE: yuri
yuri Titus A50 STD herosolve take it or leave it.

[T3]

A big part of how I read people is tone, you can see my previous games.

[T3]

Looking at the EoD vc once GuiltyLion voted the other wagons started to lose steam and Gamma became inevitable. By that point all the scum are going to want to discreetly pile on Gamma. I know I also voted Gamma but (I think) I had just replaced in and then voted him for basically flailing.

this also wasn't the reason T3 gave for voting Gamma

Recent posts seem like scum having no idea what to do for gama. VOTE: gamma

and T3's post questioning Dusa's status as town while being on the Gamma wagon that she championed was strange even before Gamma scum flip

so yeah I'm not liking T3 slot

VOTE: T3

Honestly I hadn't read the game lol

[T3]

VOTE: gamma

And here we have...
DRUMROLL PLEASE!
The discreet piling on.
VOTE: std

Not inevitable,but the other wagons people had stopped voting or talking about. VOTE: yuri
yuri Titus A50 STD herosolve take it or leave it.

T3 I don't remember showy posts from you in our previous game. Do you usually have posts like these when you're town?

This is due to the pace of the game. I've noticed that my play really varies by the size of the game and also how much time I have to play.

[T3]

T3, why are you ok with a wagon that I started given you SRed me yesterday? Are you bussing, afraid of your own elimination or both?

Better question: Are you bussing?

[T3]

VOTE: Titus¬

[T3]

T3, why are you ok with a wagon that I started given you SRed me yesterday? Are you bussing, afraid of your own elimination or both?

Better question: Are you bussing?

I'd like a real answer to this. Why were you ok voting Yuri in the first place?

See: his ISO

[T3]

I think guiltylion is town.

[T3]

I agree with his Bingle analysis and from what I've seen from Bingle in Aliensitter (town) vs. DEFCON (scum) he has a good point and independent of meta I tr Bingle.

[T3]

Titus and A50 are scum together.

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ykw that's fair. I do that as scum.

VOTE: cb

[T3]

UNVOTE:

Feels too early for this to be at E-1, I'd like at least Cupcake to post or a replacement. I'd like more from UNOwen and a50 today as well.

Alright this is very towny.

[T3]

UNVOTE:

Feels too early for this to be at E-1, I'd like at least Cupcake to post or a replacement. I'd like more from UNOwen and a50 today as well.

Alright this is very towny.

didn't you already say you were townreading me? Who are you posting this for?

It caught my eye because of the unvote

[T3]

I don't have a large sample size of okas meta but he's playing similar to how he played as town in dayvig deactivators. Frequent oneliners.

[T3]

Titus and A50 are scum together.

I'll cut the whole Town a deal then: I Do SR T3 (and FG) the most. The wagonomics of today *checks to make sure N_M is not around* make me think CB is indeed Scum (there's a slight chance I'm being wagoned bc my reads are good, but it's been some time since I actually did have good reads so I won't be shocked if CB was Town afterall). Btw, I take back my SR on Bell.

So, I could help you all and self-vote if you like but

under the condition

you solemnly swear to get both FG & T3 next. I don't care what order you take them down, but let them be D3 & D4 eliminations.

As soon as I've seen 8 different players swear to follow my dying wish I will self-vote.

P.S. It goes without saying that this promise is conditional on me flipping green, so a Townie could still add "If A50 flips Town" or something to that effect and I won't object.

How say you all?

Nah. Scum just hide behind pacts.

[T3]

bro from your first scum reads, I'm the only one voting you

So???

I mean, I had a set of SRs, TRs and "unmentioned" (assumed to be null) on D1. Today you are voting me and T3 has been at one point, and the rest are from my nulls. Now what's your point? because you started your argument suggesting/insinuating that

the reason

I SR/Null rad people is how they read me, but when I remind you -with proof- that those were my reads from D1 (with little movement like moving Bell from SR to TR & moving Titus from Null to TR) you come back to tell me you are the only one voting me, so I really don't know what your point is here.

Stop ruining my herosolve by being towny.

[T3]

T3 WHY DO YOU VANISH EVERY TIME I TURN UP AND ASK FOR YOU

Sure.
Your vote on gamma was the scummiest post to happen in the game.

[T3]

Let LavarManos flake out.

[T3]

Fakegod is screaming town. I mostly agree with his reads and his quickhammer on Gamma really only comes from town.

[T3]

Let LavarManos flake out.

[T3]

Not_Mafia?
Self hamer?
You know you want to?

[T3]

The first hood has already been spoiled by yuri and std who aren't utrs.

[T3]

I want uno to hammer here.

Same, maybe also FakeGod.

[T3]

ahahahaha
VOTE: yuri

[T3]

Yuri trying to slip into both hoods.

[T3]

I'm opposed to an LM flips today because he seems like a habitual flake out and we'll be able to get more info and abetter read from the replacement.

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How the heck do you not even have an inkling of a tr on Dusa after the Gamma flip.

[T3]

Lavar has no associatives. Flipping him gives nothing. He's null for me.

[T3]

I would consider him for a neighborhood shot.

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I'm rethinking my Titus read based on that flip.

[T3]

This setup is extremely bus friendly so you can only trust wagon analysis up to a certain point. DGBs effort is towny because it's looking at the bare facts of what happened.

[T3]

does t3 know about your vca? i think he's presuming that you are going analyze whether someone voted scum or not

I presume anyone who isn't a new joiner knows about my VCA.

And not the vca... directly above that post? LMAO VOTE: titus

[T3]

does t3 know about your vca? i think he's presuming that you are going analyze whether someone voted scum or not

I presume anyone who isn't a new joiner knows about my VCA.

And not the vca... directly above that post? LMAO VOTE: titus

Petition to speedlim Titus.

[T3]

y u voting titus my guy

Titus calls me out for discrediting her VCA when
1. I had no idea there was a VCA.
2. There was DGB's VCA

directly above

my post.

[T3]

She's literally making reasons out of thin air to scumread me. I find it impossible that Titus didn't know about DGB's VCA.

[T3]

Meta > wagon analysis, especialy in a setup like this.

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I don't have an UNOwen towngame to compare though.

[T3]

Meta is rubbish.

[visible disagreement]

[T3]

Meta > wagon analysis, especialy in a setup like this.

Hey I have an idea since you believe in meta and I'm lazy.

Can you metadive LavarManos?

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VOTE: yuri
I think this has a higher chance of flipping scum than Titus but I'm interested to see what everyone else thinks.

[T3]

anybody with experience with bell would kill bell because when he's town he might as well be an IC

+1 it was probably suggested by the deep scum.

Remind me how you know there's a deep scum?
OH wait a minute. That's because you would know from the scum PT.
VOTE: Titus
Scumslip.

[T3]

Like since when does a towny say "I bet the deepwolf must have killed"

[T3]

I feel T3 is playing exactly like his scumgame

I'm actually trying to play like my scumgame because my towngame gets me scumread.

[T3]

Darn it I have the perfect meme for the occasion but I can't upload it for some reason.

[T3]

anybody with experience with bell would kill bell because when he's town he might as well be an IC

+1 it was probably suggested by the deep scum.

Remind me how you know there's a deep scum?
OH wait a minute. That's because you would know from the scum PT.
VOTE: Titus
Scumslip.

I also just find this a ridiculous post and it's hard for me to imagine or understand a town!T3 making it. Like, is he really trying to suggest Titus is scum and she just decided to casually explain to the main thread why their team killed Bell? Like if he thinks she 'whoops!' slipped knowledge that one of the scums is widely townread and is telling the truth here, it'd also mean she was straight up speaking to us from scum perspective. I really can't see a town T3 thinking this is a bonafide scumslip, I think he's grasping at straws here to find reasons to push Titus.

Yeah, but I don't see why town would say that also. TBH you're probably right.
VOTE: Yuri

[T3]

I'm actually trying to play like my scumgame because my towngame gets me scumread.

Does your scum game get you town read?

No.

pedit: Hi.

[T3]

VOTE: gamma

You saw Gamma was at e2, then you naked vote.

[T3]

Because my towngame gets me scumread and mislimmed a lot. My scumgame less so.

[T3]

mistrust

I am a little suspicious of Dusa

>:|

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I was basicaly saying why the heck would someone say specificaly the scum deepwolf suggested something.

[T3]

T3 - weird scummy. Posting has an odd tone.

I have not read T3 cases at all so far

I don't even know who T3 replaced

I'm a blank canvas

Sell me this scum read of yours

I replaced qoobee

[T3]

??? you said you didn't know who I replaced.

[T3]

Oh, I didn't totally get that.
pedit:

[T3]

Btoth my scumreads voting no lol

[T3]

I don't scumread Lavar but at this point he's just dead weight.
Is there enough time for a Yuri wagon?

[T3]

Yuri trying to slip in the hood AGAIN.

[T3]

Lavar vote Yuri with me pls

[T3]

Tbh leashing hoods is probably the optimal play unless the UTRS have a deepwolf.

pedit:

[T3]

A problem is that the end hood will have everyone's scumreads in it and as a result may have a lot of scum.

[T3]

This can easily be fixed though.

[T3]

then allow me to join another hood

Okay we'll just evict you first.

[T3]

i have a low opinion of my desire to get off of t3

Save the Dragons do you have any thoughts on my point about Bell being a main T3 defender, or Dusa's defense of T3 in 2355

T3 literally did something i've only seen him do as scum which was call out a scumslip. i don't really care that bell defended him and i can barely read that post by dusa.

See Owers recently finished Mini Normal.

[T3]

VOTE: Yuri
How tf have we let this obvscum survive.

[T3]

my current working theory is if T3 scum, scum were opting to bus him yesterday/today rather than jump on a Lavar miselimination

No. With two scumpals down, you don't bus.

LavarManos was indefensible. If anything, defending this slot as town would reek of scum.

Which reminds me.

Wasn't there a player who defended LM yesterday? Where is my blowtorch.

Hi.

[T3]

istg if we let scum Yuri win this.

[T3]

Yuri: drops tr on Gamma.
2 days later everyone is voting Gamma, Yuri tries to get in the hood by voting Gamma.

[T3]

DFB unvoted. I'm E2

[T3]

tf
i am not trolling.

[T3]

T3 link me some games you feel represent your town game and some games that represents your scum

Can't link because of my device but I would say Newbie 2068 and ydrasse's recent mini normal are msome recent games.

[T3]

I'm not sure. The specific thing I'm trying to do is be more proactive and case people in the post I vote them.

[T3]

Yuri, yes.

[T3]

Titus?

Not sure.

[T3]

VOTE: T3
yall suck

[T3]

Despite bussing, I had no charisma because all of my partners were obvscum so I couldn't protect the people townreading me, so the house of cards failed. I tried.

Congrats town!

[T3]

I react really badly to pressure.