Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

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unwnd is totally stoned face for this. I joked if I should roll a d20 for a skill check on my night action... Didn't even get a "lol" out of them.

Anyways. I have a pretty questionable innate action, and even more questionably use SP skill.

My innate skill is I can check people's current HP. I checked Save The Dragons last night (random.org). They have 3 HP. Comparatively, I have 5 HP.

My other ability, which costs 2 SP is to check a target and see if they are using SP as well the same night. I didn't use it last night.

My "class," is called Sovereign. I'm royalty or something.

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If anyone wants to suggest the best uses for my abilities, I'm all ears.

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wow, is there a reason you have for just outing Dragons HP like that?

Because.

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i mean if i was scum who used an SP action to debuff a towny i would like to keep that a secret, personally.

To be clear, I only know if a player spent SP or not. I don't learn anything else.

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INCOMING

Not_Mafia has joined the adventure.

As a replacement, or a new player?

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Hello everyone I hope we all have a great time with this game! I really like the playerlist.

VOTE: option 1 I would like to fish in the lake

Hi notmafia!

MOD EVENT

(2) Ignore the lake, moving on with your adventure

> You decide this is no time for relaxation! You must continue to climb the tree, no matter the expense. You ignore the lake and march forward.

Hmmm...

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Who the fuck voted to ignore the lake and not fish!?!

So there's more to it than just you?

I have no idea what's going on with this.

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Wheme, what's with the vote for fishing, and then the mod stating no fishing. Please elaborate on that whole thing for anyone who has no idea what you are talking about (ie. me).

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Wheme, what's with the vote for fishing, and then the mod stating no fishing. Please elaborate on that whole thing for anyone who has no idea what you are talking about (ie. me).

The mods first vote count had 2 options. To vote in the lake or to ignore the lake.

I thought the player base would get to decide on what we did but I guess not as I only saw people vote to fish.

Guess I should read stuff before my first post. If you were the only person to vote, the flavor might be largely irrelevant.

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VOTE: Flea the Magician

scumposting

First time playing with Flea?

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hey cabd shoot me a 6 player scum team pls.

this feels more like a 8 or 9 wolf game personally

maybe there's multiple packs

Are you trying to fake a town slip?

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2. The following game is a closed setup. The role distribution will be 17 Town, 6 Mafia, and 1 Third-Party.

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VOTE: Save The Dragons
Terrible ISO considering I threw them in the spotlight.

MurderCat is town, in my opinion. LLD could go either way, but her long term play will make her alignment more apparent.

Not a fan of Dunn's pushes, personally.

Flea is just Flea. The amount of times fae have been miselimed based on faer style of play is extremely high. People need to realize fae are just naturally scummy I guess. Flea, in my opinion, is one of those players that really just needs a scan or long term associations to sort, and will always be an easy push.

I skip over all poetry and posts that have collapsible spoilers, and my eyes tend to glaze over banter/noise posts.

Not really feeling strongly about anyone not mention in this post because they aren't sticking out to me, or their hasn't been anything pinging me.

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3. Save the Dragons - I want to say town but I may be attributing some posts of them in my mind to Morph. Gmth town

ISO this and tell me how you get town.

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I think it's important to see what the Bingle wagon consisted of before it resolved.

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Add Ircher to town pile.

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Add Ircher to town pile.

What are your reads currently?

MurderCat, Ircher, Bell, and obviously Bingle all town.
Not liking the activity of STD (check his ISO).
Not much of a fan of Dunn's posts in general, but might be a bias.

Null pretty much everyone else. First post I actually read of notsci was something to do with orange slices, that's how disengaged I was with their posting style. I pretty much stop reading any post that doesn't fit on my phone screen too.

I've also skipped about half the pages in the game, or largely skmed over them.

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For the claim or for a different reason. At this point, I'm leaning towards early game claims are NAI for Toogeloo.

For the claim. Has Toogeloo D1 claimed as scum?

I claimed 3P Survivor unprompted as mafia on Day 1. I don't always claim out the gate. I do crumb in most games if I didn't claim though. The few times I don't is when claims don't matter.

In my most recent scum game, I was Mafia Gunsmith and crumbed in my first post to go back and claim Town Gunsmith eventually. I ended up realizing that claim was detrimental and never fell back on the crumb.

My Mafia to Town game ratio is pretty lop sided in favor of Town, probably about 1:5 or 1:6.

I would agree with Ircher however that me claiming D1 unprompted should be considered NAI, especially I know that I would do it regardless, or try to include crumbs regardless.

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Feel free to look at my wiki. It has every game I've ever played on MS.

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Pay no attention to my Mafia Aligned win percentage... Please.

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Trying to eliminate Not Mafia seems pretty dumb tbqh. Should we make them claim?

Like what's the difference between a Not Mafia death and a policy death in this game? Voting Not Mafia is an easy place to park a vote of no substance, all so we can "test" it and see if it's a game mechanic?

The mod cannot lie to us, and last I checked, there were still 17 town and 6 mafia aligned players based on the set up. So eliminating Not Mafia does pretty much nothing in the way of solving who's who.

If anything, I think it's a mechanic designed to punish town for being lazy. We get rid of our greatest weapon, the daily execution, and do nothing with it.

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Sigmund and STD fighting feels weird as hell.

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Sigmund is at least posting. Save The Dragons isn't doing anything relevant. This close to deadline, it's pretty easy for scum to sway a wagon. I'm willing to bet both Ircher (whom I already town read) and Sigmund are town here.

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I think I'm skeptical of PR in this setup as a defense for play (and in terms of claims) because it seems to me that the distribution of abilities is very spread around.

If I were to wager a guess, based on my own role and the sample role, everyone probably has one or more actions that qualify them as a PR, even if it"s a weak one.

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We need 13 votes to execute a player. We haven't even reached half that on a player yet. We'll likely want a claim before we commit to an execution. At what point are we going to start taking the elimination seriously?

Anyone here remember the last Booneytoonz where we ended up changing wagons like 3 times in a day, forcing all of them to claim (one was a scum), and then speed wagoned a town in like 30 minutes (hint, it was Flea)?

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Also, kinda liking STD this morning.

Probably because they have posted the same or more today than the rest of the game combined.

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From my experience in almost every game I've played with Flea, fae are the epitome of LHF.

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NDMath on Sigmund makes that a bad wagon.

I could do a NDMath wagon. Anyone else want to do a NDMath wagon?

Ircher, Flea, and Sigmund wagons are all bad.

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What's the tl;dr of the case on Flea? And don't give me any of the TMI bullshit.

Flea is acting like... Flea.

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So, uh...

Maybe we should just have Flea, Sigmund, and Ircher (and STD maybe?) all claim right now, and we lynch the claim we can live the least without.

Or, we can just have the wisdom of the IC tell us who to lunch and just trust Jingle on a read they'd like sorted.

I'm vehemently opposed to eliminating Flea or Ircher today, and the only reason I'd consider Sigmund is for how unhelpful I feel that slot is in working with people. In fact I'm a bit irritated that discussion has only revolved around Sigmund, Flea, and Ircher for the last 3 days, and we have made literally no headway on either getting claims, forming wagons, or pursuing other possibilities. People literally plugging their ears and zipping their mouths.

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I'm trying hard to remember to replace "Lynch" with literally any other word, and still forgetting since it's so ingrained in my Mafia vocabulary.

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uhhhh, Bingle voted Ircher. where is Bingle? Bingle come in here and get the wagons going in the right direction, this ain't my job lmao.

Gross AF, but fine.

tl;dr: None of Ircher's posts seem town. jjh's 49, 50, 71, 72, and 99 are all actively scummy. Ircher tried to wave that off with "jjh not being around is null because he didn't have time to play" when that was A: not the point of the read and B: actually probably not the case. (JJH's rep out is 100% NAI FMPOV).

It's not a strong case. It's actually a pretty shit one, tbh. But in lieu of strong lim options I think it's a fine wagon.

Then let's at least get Ircher to claim while we have time to work out a backup prospect.

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Who ever said that Flea's posting content has diminished as the day has progressed, have you also considered that fae is having a bit of an episode this week, and it might likely be a contributing factor?

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I will vote for any of my town reads if it secures an elimination. I probably won't be happy about it, and might in an "I told you so," if it goes sideways.

But I'm perfectly willing to sheep Jingle if it means we don't end the day on a no elim.

VOTE: Ircher

I think that regardless of the vote count though, Ircher, Sigmund, and Flea all might need to claim.

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UNVOTE:

Will be voting whoever is needed to ensure we secure an elimination today. Consider my vote on whichever wagon is largest at any given moment.

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NDMath has less posts than jjh, Ircher, or unwnd, and barely beats bork.

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So?

So... that should be embarrassing, and they should be embarrassed, because of embarrassment?

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Scum team would hate me if they have discord chat. I disable notifications for everything except email. I don't get discord notifications. I hate when my phone even makes notification noises.

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I just realized something...

Not Mafia is infamous for hammering, so it might be worth considering that the NPC mechanic makes everyone have the hated modifier.

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Which might be why Not Mafia also represents a vote on the vote count.

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Sigmund turning out to be town leaves Flea exposed with my TMI suspicion. It is obvious we are gonna lose the Doctor tonight otherwise the wolves would be playing against their wincon, but if we can bag mafia today, the loss won't feel as huge.

This is such a hilariously bad post. Are you scum, Guillo? I think you are, just from the phrasing of this one post.

We'll get to that tomorrow.

VOTE: Anya

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Oh, did I fuck something up?
My bad...

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Everyone's a critic.

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Funny take: I'm actually Cop, Town have 5 HP and Scum have 3 HP.

*Probably not true, but wouldnt surprise me.

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My paraphrasing skills are amazing.

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For what it's worth, I would have never known that mastina had quoted much from her role pm. I just assumed she was stating how she interpreted her role. It wasn't until unwnd posted her role that I thought to myself, yeah there are a few lines of text in there that are verbatim, but I still would never have guessed it.