TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

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VOTE: Korina

Can barely hear myself over all the shouting

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Korina and Unwnd are both lying

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Korina is known to troll and like cults. Him getting a caps lock restriction while not being cultable is a coincidence I don't believe

Unwnd would hold onto his ability for longer before using it randomly

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Korina's lies are more annoying and add a lot of noise

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Unwnd's generates some info and reactions, so it's a little towny

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When I first got my role PM, I was disappointed. I got Vanilla Townie. But then I noticed that it had a passive ability not usually associated with VTs.

While I'm alive, the vote count can't be tampered with. Things like Double Voters or Hated/Loved townies are treated like normal players.

So, yeah, I'm a VT with a passive that might be gating a few players.

I believe this

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So you don't actually think Korina is uncultable or do you just think the restriction is trolling. Not sure I follow what part you think is the lie.

That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.

UNVOTE:

I think probably everything he's said so far about his role is a lie. He's just trolling

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Or you develop some reads first and use it on your 4 top townreads

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Or use on top 2 scumreads etc

Lot of ways to use it that's better than random

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Can't this apply to anytime in the game though? You won't get an early townbloc but you could still get one just as easily?

less likely to get all town the longer the game goes, unless all non-town get wrecked or something

at that point did you really need it anyway lol

but I think unwnd not voting for anyone who voted for korina means it's not true? UNVOTE:

Just do it later on day 1

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Hello. Raya.

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Progression

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Cthulhu is cute

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Why do you ask a question but end the sentence with a period.

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And I would assume so

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If there was such a role, it would be a day or night action, not some weird pregame thing. Korina's obviously lying

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*WERE

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I sense a tinge of sarcasm

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We're all scum claims and there's nothing wrong with that

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VOTE: Jake

Be proud of what you are or don't be at all

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I like this ~Spiffy individual. Not a fan of ~Spiffy so far though

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Raya was late on the quickhammer, ~Spiffeh. Forgive her inferior internet

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VOTE: Disney Princesses

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I RETURN FOR A FEW MOMENTS TO ASK THIS QUESTION:
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I LIE ABOUT BEING UNRECRUITABLE WHEN THE SOLE POINT OF ME JOINING WAS TO ROLL CULT AND/OR GET CULTED? THE POST RESTRICTION I WOULD GENUINELY LIE ABOUT AS TOWN OR SCUM JUST BECAUSE IT’S FUNNY.

This is true. Claiming unrecruitable means he doesn't get recruited. So it's either true or he's already cult

Taking the last sentence as a 'yes the post restriction is fake but it's nai'

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You're an alt and know me

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It's not in the spirit of a true Grand Idea game if half of the roles aren't scum. I'm pretty sure TL manually picks his roles even if he says they were randomized, so this setup will probably be reasonably balanced. The last game was all random, alignments too, and it turned out very structured and balanced.

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I agree with the samantha not-town read

VOTE: samantha

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unwnd, I still don't believe you

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I'm just happy to be here

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Even happier now that you're interacting with me, Jake. I've always been a big fan

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There are 14 Town-aligned players alive.

TL crumbed it in the first votecount

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When's the last time you lied?

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I'm here to make plays and I'm all out of small and medium sized plays

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Raya and NDMath seem fine

VOTE: Flea The Magic

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magus talking in a loop, uneasy feeling
can see other worlds for korina,, letting him be
o7 is locktown for me xD, never voting EVER
emphasis vote, happy with it VOTE: raya

o7

there is nothing wrong with a loop a with wrong nothing is there

see point, is confusing, loop talking, mb for earlier, korina world is he's lying about caps, definitely,,,, yes

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Cares more than he wants to. This is usually a good thing.

Huh, how'd you tell?

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VOTE: Cook

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I appreciate the deep pocket, Disney Princesses, and will readily climb in and make myself cozy

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VOTE: Rebel Radio

What's obvious about Pooky? 462 doesn't sound like you really believe it

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GREAT

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I'm so happy

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Vax is really scummy after an ISO tbf. I feel like the cult should be voting together though

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Vax felt like he was forcing himself to say whatever/fake content, it all felt forced

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I want to recruit Nono

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Thanks, I wasn't sold on you being town until you claimed it again

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It feels like scum!Koba to me too mainly because they aren't making much sense and I know town!Koba makes sense. But 560 felt very genuine and like they want to solve the game. Not that scum!Koba can't make that post though.

This reads off and fence-sitty. Get down from there before you fall off, Raya, come sit on a high horse like the rest of us normal people.

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I appreciate the deep pocket, Disney Princesses, and will readily climb in and make myself cozy

Now that we've successfully pocketed you if you could also sheep us in destroying Vaxkiller that would be SWELL.

While I'm not the biggest fan of Rebel's posting thus fa

r I think that the Vax entrance was both bad and substantial enough to give me confidence that it's an alignment-indicative type of bad.

Hmm

That said, I'll join the campaign against Vax. Players should really think twice before they obvscum.

Spiffey still hasn't joined our cult

very susp

We are very very town.

I don't understand your vote on Rebel.

I don't understand why you're not joining hands with us to crush scum currently; we will not be long for this world and so it only makes sense for us to unite on this, if only for a day.

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I dont really think "this is multiball" is something scum says be abuse they're on a small team. I also think raya is scum, so I dont care about them being voted. But sure, who cares?

VOTE: vax

So terrible it's towny (this post)

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magnus, whats ur feel about my personal reads list and how i sorted the blocks?
-koba

It's quite decent save for some placements. Unsure why you're confident about Nono/Korina particularly.

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magnus, whats ur feel about my personal reads list and how i sorted the blocks?
-koba

It's quite decent save for some placements. Unsure why you're confident about Nono/Korina particularly.

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Hayker actually feels a tiny bit different to that large game ISO you linked, Rebel. More empty questioning there.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

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Okay, Raya back to town for that post. Or at least scum who has a genuine scumread on Rebel. Agreeing with the thoughts there.

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Raya, they make me work 70 hour weeks at the cult and I don't get paid for overtime. It's a really sweet gig and I think you should look into submitting your application to join.

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Bell's town

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Vaxkiller, Rebel Radio, Flea, Guillotina, Cook, Jake

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My role has that information in it, and before you say it, no its not a scum role.

If you're informed about something, why not be clearer about it? Tell us exactly how you know there's multiball for a fact.

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VOTE: Rebel Radio

Hayker hasn't rolled town in 8+ years. Kinda funny he's rolled scum 3 times since his return. But yeah, don't know where you're getting this town!Hayker posts more meta from

Liking Vax's recent posting

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Vax if you're town then dig deep and do something that shows that to me

I could literally say the same thing back to you. I hate when people come in and say this, and every time someone does I have to think to myself, is this genuine town concern, or scum theatrics. Like please don't say this as town from now on, if you are in fact town. I'm not going to scum read you for this, but it just struck a nerve. It's like you saying "dance for my Vax, dance!"

Particularly this post

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Hey Spiffeh keep up the good work really proud of you

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Where's the ;s, Nono? Nothing more than an empty promise?

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;Perfect;

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There's something about them that puts my soul to/at rest. Unsure if that means it kills part of me every time I see them, but it has an effect on me;

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also what does everyone think abt a d1 massclaim? I think this guarantees we catch out AT LEAST 1 scum with a bad claim.

i was mulling it over during work and think itd be a good move.
-koba

Official Pooky Cult:

Pooky - Cult Leader
Korina - High Priest
DSJ - ???

what do you want to be DSJ?

POOKY IS TOWN. NOTHING WILL CHANGE MY OPINION ON THIS. NOT EVEN THEM FLIPPING SCUM.

we get it u are jester now calm down and just get nightkilled its ok
-koba

also so sad pooky did indeed roll mafia. at least we are also pookythemagical bear and are town so that is a consolation.

-koba

normally I'd support d1 massclaim but there's so much more that can go wrong in grand idea than normal

oh so NOW you are opposed to massclaim??? when theres more evidence pointing towards a benefit than not... >.>
-koba

Flea has joined my Cult

VOTE: Rebel Radio

let us purge this town of naysayers and deniers of the Greatness of the All-Mighty

god pooky is so obvious lmfao

cmon everyone lets get this outta here -koba

korina is town

spiffy is town, not so sure about spiffeh

Why is korina town?

i know this can be confusing, but town aligned players are the ones that received a town role pm at the start of the game. hope that helps!

Cut it out. This is a non answer, and disproportionate to the question asked in this situation. Now why is korina town to you?
-koba

I've seen you as town and you feel tonally off in all of these posts. Are you taking a different approach this game?

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You're curter and feel more natural in your town games. Oh, also, is toxicity an alignment-indicative tell for you?

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Yo

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Pretty good. Why aren't you dead, bud?

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v/la 24 hours

pedit: me? what's wrong

Was this all a lie?

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pedit;;;;;;; sorry; will do better now; hopefully; not used to it; kinda

The lies just don't stop with you, huh? Where's the ;s?

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I'll actually read the last 18 pages if I'm still alive on day 2. I'll townlock anyone who has a killing ability and doesn't kill me.

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Rebel got a lot more towny and Gullo is scummy from what little I did read though.

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Also, the one ascetic claim is like 50+% scum this game, let's be honest. If you go through and search 'ascetic' on the GI thread, it's gonna be mostly scum roles I'd wager. Someone else do the research though. I know my man dsjstr is good for that

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Jake's town for that burn, that's actually a town-Jake thing, no joke.

Lich, make the next twilight 24 hours please.

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I'm hard scumreading any scum here

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There's a role on the Grand Idea thread that wins when it gets 10 people to accept, and then kills the entire cult including itself. I accepted my fate long ago.

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Oh my God, I just realized we have a night phase after this twilight. I was assuming we'd go straight to day 2. Lich, why would you want your players to suffer like this?

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Yeah, I honestly don't mind either.

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Does Syrvana count?

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The previous post was redacted due to mod error.

Scum PT slip? Be honest.

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Right, let me skim through from start of today.

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Hang on, I got a call.

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sorry,, was busy
night was depressing,, miss sam, sorry radio
read some, will read the rest soon

Claim town.

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Meanwhile, unwnd is scum who likely has teammates - if he was solo scum then he wouldn't be able to make such a risky play but as group scum he can net a mislynch on someone who wouldn't be mislynched otherwise and than play it off as sanity issues.

I don't think so. He was in a good position read-wise coming into today, so I'm more inclined to believe he's scum who knows Bell is scum, over scum who's faking a guilty on town.

Or he's just town.

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Someone explain why Disney is so confident in this.
My theory is that they got culted and they don’t give a toss what unwnd is as long as they’re not cult.

Agree. Disney's confidence on unwnd's play here is crêpes.

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unwnd, can you not just link your role from the grand idea thread? I don't get it.

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ngl I'd love to get culted right now, Im not interested in culting as an actual mechanic in this game, and the numbers indicate thats legitimate currently.

I'm worried about about the 2 maf getting a free ride as we flail and panic around the various 3P claims and distractions.

For me today its Unwnd for the cock up, or korinas potential fakeclaim. Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

VOTE: Flea The Magician

Your votepool is a cop claim and the player who's been recuited to town by Samantha.

Also, I don't think Flea actually believes this crazy alignment distribution:

Thats part of the problem though, like I'm sitting on 14/2/1/1/1/1/1 and right now I'm thinking Korina is a smart doggo and is one of the 2.

Like until I have legit reason as to why the numbers are wrong, thats where I'm staying.

Liking the spicyness form PS.

-and is just saying it to look uninformed.

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VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.

--PA

I'd be ok with this. I don't think Flea is cult since focusing on the cult in thread wouldn't be a good move but I could see faer as scum hunting for the cult.

I also forgot about Magnus until your post. I'd like to hear from him again.

Hello. Again. Raya.

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UNVOTE: Flea

Never mind.

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Day 3 we'll get our shit together yes?

VOTE: dsjstr

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Town Bloodhound

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed if that player is

TOWN

or

NOT TOWN

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Here you go, it's this one

Why isn't your sanity confirmed if this is the only possible role you can be?

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I unvoted Flea because of all the redacted posts I assumed were AtE which Flea regretted and asked to be redacted. Means it was genuine and not used for towncred.

Did you (or anyone else) see what those posts actually said?

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All my life I've been fascinated with history, and beginning in middle school (around age 12) I became especially interested in the Holocaust and the Nazi regime. Every time the subject came up in school I would pay attention moreso than in other classes, and no matter the class I would try to relate papers and assingments back to my passion: the Holocaust. Obviously people took notice, and I became known as the kid who liked the Holocaust. Most of them didn't think it was too weird, they just thought it was a hobby and they would sometimes talk to me if they had any questions. I didn't think it was weird either, I just found the horrible atrocities fascinating to learn about. Because of this interest I majored in history at Harvard College, despite what people said about history not being the safest major due to lack of jobs. Regardless I pushed through, got my PhD, and wrote all the papers I could on my beloved Holocaust Come the end of the education chapter in the book of my life I had to move on and find a job. But what people said was right. There were no jobs for a Holocaust fanatic such as myself. Within a year I was homeless, living on the streets. I'd curl up in my refrigerator box, thinking back on my life. Was it worth it to major in what I loved, was it worth being homeless to persue my passion: the Holocaust? I had never been able to answer that question. Because I just didn't know. That is until now, now I know it was all worth it, because I can say with absolute certainty that this twilight phase is literally worse than Hitler.

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The bear(lion?) was cool but you spammed the same arms folded reaction image too much. Get a better range of emotions next time

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Lich did not pick and choose which roles he wanted in this game.

I don't believe this for a second.

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What post restriction should i impose on myself next? (Should I live) hmmmm

Wear a fedora while writing out every post.

Record yourself speaking and post clips instead of posts.

Act like mafia who's trying to look like a jester but is actually secretly a jester.

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I'm town so you're either lying or insane. I'm gonna have to go looking through that thread to see if anything like what you claim with an unconfirmed sanity actually exists.

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Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may learn if a player is

Town

or

Not Town

. Your sanity is not guaranteed and may differ each night.

Mod Note: Starts off as Naive until this role successfully investigates someone. After this role acts, sanity is based off the last successful target. If the last successful target was Town, this role is Naive. If the last successful target was not Town, this role is Paranoid.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may learn if a player is

Town

or

Not Town

. Your sanity is not guaranteed and may differ each night.

Mod Note: Starts off as Sane until this role successfully investigates someone. After this role acts, sanity is based off the last successful target. If the last successful target was Town, this role is Sane. If the last successful target was not Town, this role is Insane.

Aha

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Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Sane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Insane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Naive.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Paranoid.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Insane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Naive.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Sane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Paranoid.

Wtf Ircher

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Assuming unwnd tells the truth:

If it's one of Ircher's bloodhounds, unwnd is paranoid or insane.

If it's one of Temporallich's bloodhounds, Bell is Not Town.

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VOTE: NDMath

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ISO him

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Magnus voted me without really explaining and then disappeared which is annoying.


On dsj vs flea and guillo
I'm struggling to understand why both flea is so confident and why dsj is ateing so much.
Guillo's posts/logic however are making sense to me now.

Your ISO read as apathetic and putting in minimal effort to get by

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Guys you won't believe this but I got another NOT TOWN result

All town

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Lich maybe next time don't make your players suffer with a role that extends the twilight BY 72 FUCKING HOURS

True. We all know you hand pick them anyway, Lich, you could've avoided picking a twilight extender

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Yeah, no. I'd claim it during any of the twilight phases and ask to be night killed. There's a limit to torture