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Huh?armlx wrote:Vote farside'
Pre-empting my thinking she is scum actually every game I play with her.
There's actually a decent reason (for page 1) to believe Alabaska is town right now, btw.Call me Tajo.
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Mmm.armlx wrote:It's not 100% assured, but usually mafia are allowed to talk during day start confirm phases (ie. every newbie game atm). I would think that Alabaska as scum would have at least noticed if his inbox started filling with messages from random people.
And why would you believe him?Law wrote:6) You may not discuss this game outside the topic, unless your role says you can, and if you can, you may only do so during the night.Call me Tajo.
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But yet you said this:armlx wrote:
Ok, strike that, reverse it. There is in fact nothing that would suggest Alabaska is any alignment at this point.populartajo wrote:Law wrote:6) You may not discuss this game outside the topic, unless your role says you can, and if you can, you may only do so during the night.armlx wrote:There's actually a decent reason (for page 1) to believe Alabaska is town right now, btw.Call me Tajo.
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Ok.armlx wrote:
Yeah, I did not see said rule. I am used to instead mafia being able to talk during confirms on a day start.populartajo wrote:
But yet you said this:armlx wrote:
Ok, strike that, reverse it. There is in fact nothing that would suggest Alabaska is any alignment at this point.populartajo wrote:Law wrote:6) You may not discuss this game outside the topic, unless your role says you can, and if you can, you may only do so during the night.armlx wrote:There's actually a decent reason (for page 1) to believe Alabaska is town right now, btw.Call me Tajo.
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LOL.armlx wrote:
Oh, so I was right. Strike my striking and reversing and reverse it.farside22 wrote:You are correct in your thoughts Armix
Lawrencelot wrote:All roles are out. Please confirm in thread. Players who can talk during the night are allowed to talk now until Day 1 starts.
Ok, random stage GO.Call me Tajo.
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QFT.Rogue Shenanigans wrote:Its not a full claim yet.
Nameclaim.
This game is too fast for my taste but anyways...
Quickly reread N1 told me that TSN had a plan. It seems interesting. I might need a more detailed reread to find out if its indeed worthy at this stage of the game. For now I agree that we should have an optimal social use for coins but that it truly depends in all's colaboration.
BTW, I expect at least one scum in this Arlmx-Gimbo-Farside-TSN-Cream chat. Im probaly forgeting someone.
Quickly reread N2 told me that our friend Gimbo had claimed. I dont see why scum would put themseleves in the hot seat too fast so Im believing his claim and we can test it tomorrow.Call me Tajo.
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Why would Toad have a revival ability?Gimbo wrote:Shit guys, okay regarding the 5 point thing, I didn't look carefully enough, I am sorry.
Oh shit here goes, I'm a Toad for Mushroom Kingdom, I am like all Toads except that I have the revival ability which I can use only once. Once I used it, I am back to regular townie, therefore, the claim was beneficial for me because it doesn't hurt in any way.
You guys should believe me, because the claim is true, if you will ever be able to counter my claim (impossible but lets just say hypothetically), then yea go ahead and lynch me.
BTW, I need 2 coins, otherwise this shit is pointless and I'll be dead by D2, I can only use my ability during the day publicly in the forum, which requries me to survive through N1 and then based on town decision (if both D1 and N1 kill are townie) pick one to revive.Call me Tajo.
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That's why I asked. Because Im a Toad and dont have any revival abilities.farside22 wrote:
Someone is looking scummy. Everyone is Toad (or is someone that looks like toad, but not a toad). Someone doesn't have a toad role = scum.populartajo wrote:
Why would Toad have a revival ability?Gimbo wrote:Shit guys, okay regarding the 5 point thing, I didn't look carefully enough, I am sorry.
Oh shit here goes, I'm a Toad for Mushroom Kingdom, I am like all Toads except that I have the revival ability which I can use only once. Once I used it, I am back to regular townie, therefore, the claim was beneficial for me because it doesn't hurt in any way.
You guys should believe me, because the claim is true, if you will ever be able to counter my claim (impossible but lets just say hypothetically), then yea go ahead and lynch me.
BTW, I need 2 coins, otherwise this shit is pointless and I'll be dead by D2, I can only use my ability during the day publicly in the forum, which requries me to survive through N1 and then based on town decision (if both D1 and N1 kill are townie) pick one to revive.
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Wait, where did you get this from?Farside wrote:Everyone is Toad (or is someone that looks like toad, but not a toad). Someone doesn't have a toad role = scum.
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Im missing where is the description of the 1UP mushroom. Was it a secret item?Call me Tajo.
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I agree with this.Surye wrote:
I'd be willing to do the exchange, I started with no items.farside22 wrote:
This almost sounds like a lets see who else has items and who doesn't type thing.Surye wrote:I have an idea, first things first. I know how we can confirm Gimbo's claim (of having the item, not being pro-town).
We have him trade it to someone, and they trade it back. If he can do that, he proves he has the item and we can move from there. If the person on the other end refuses to give it back, we lynch him, and it would be worth a scum for the item.
Once we've done this, we'll have more information to work with.
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1 scum for 1 mushroom doesnt seem bad to me.
And if he isnt scum then well we can semiconfirm 2 townies, right?
What bothers me is why Surye doesnt have an item.Call me Tajo.
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But we know if Gimbo is telling or not telling the truth.farside22 wrote:
I wouldn't say in semiconfirms Surye at all.populartajo wrote:1 scum for 1 mushroom doesnt seem bad to me.
And if he isnt scum then well we can semiconfirm 2 townies, right?
What bothers me is why Surye doesnt have an item.Call me Tajo.
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If Gimbo isnt scum then mafia already know there is a 1UP mushroom.Phoebus wrote:I doubt the farside Gimbo thing will work because both are already holding an item. Not sure one handed tossing works.
Surye might be best person (or another item less person) for something like this...
At most...it will help scum confirm the existence of 1UP mushroom.
Gimbo's probably dead tomorrow anyway.
In another news: potential 36h away period.
I still agree that we should test Gimbo's words. This doesnt confirm at all Surye's behavior (thx Farside) but we dont lose anything trying.Call me Tajo.
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TheSweatpantsNinja is town BTW. I dont understand the reasoning in this wagon. "I dont agree with him, yes that totally makes him scum"
At least he's given some ideas.
I still think that there's a way we can optimize our coins. Communism doesnt sound too bad in the right hands. Let me think, OK? TSN and his oppositors, can you explain town what are the pros and cons of their suggestions?Call me Tajo.
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How can you know if he doesnt sound scummy if you havent read all the case against him?farside22 wrote:What is rubbing me wrong with TSN is that he FOS's anyone that disagrees with him. I showed the numbers on why I felt the odds of coin pooling was bad and he still wanted to go along with it. I think he is nuts, but not scummy. I think creams attitude doesn't sound scummy to me. What exactly is the case against him?Call me Tajo.
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I dont like this conversation. At all.Surye wrote:
Stop staring. And stop getting off topic. Just because we're pretty sure you're town means you can stop playing.Gimbo wrote:^ I looked him up, you could've totally found a better picture of this dude, I mean he's not bad to the eye, but that scowl is damn annoying.Call me Tajo.
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What about if we give coins to Gimbo so that he can buy a star? He's not killed tonight and he can confirm a townie or kill a scum.
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Visible votecount:
Cream147 (3): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J
TheSweatpantsNinja (3): sideney, Riceballtail, iamausername
Xtoxm (2): DragonsofSummer, alvinz95
farside22 (2): TheSweatpantsNinja, Gimbo
populartajo (1): farside22
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
somestrangeflea (1): Dead Rikimaru
armlx (1): killa seven
Gimbo (1): somestrangeflea
Not voting (9): Xtoxm, Surye, MafiaSSK, Pepsidude, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, mr. incrediball, Rogue Shenanigans
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I seriously dislike D1s. They seem too random. Everyone has the potential of making something scummy and be bandwagoned to death. Thats why I dont love bandwagons also but Ill reread tonight and post something useful later.Call me Tajo.
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WARNING BIG POST.
Yey, analysis.
First was the Random stage.
First pages and Gimbo makes some crazy silly things.
Somestragenflea post 117. Jumps seriously against a probably easy silly target = Gimbo.
Cream post 118. Scummy as hell. Follows SSF in his attacks against Gimbo.
[quote=“Cream”]
somestrangeflea, I'm impressed that you've managed to read through all the rubbish and find some actual scummy quotes from Gimbo. You put forward a decent case for this stage of the game which is why I Vote: Gimbo. [/quote]
Phoebus, post 119, is probably town. Decent reason for voting Cream.
SSF post 124. Keeping the attack against Gimbo.
Neutral about Farside, post 125. Relaxed and pacifist tone.
Armlx, post 126, is probably town. Joins Cream’s wagon again for a decent reason.
(Note : If Cream comes up innocent we should reevaluate the last four lignes)
Neutral about Celeboki, post 133. Pacifist tone
Sideney, post 134, joins Cream wagon. At this point of the wagon all the reasons are repetitions of the previous ones.
Cream, post 135, blatant backtrack.
[quote=“TSN”]
Ok...admittedly I didn't check that. I will Unvote for now...but Gimbo, you are annoying me a lot. [/quote]
TSN, post 137, gives one coin to armlx. Let’s see his explanation.
[quote=“TSN”]
You again. I don't. But if he doesn't use it on gimbo, which is what I want to happen, then I'll go after him tomorrow. [/quote]
Sideney, post 138, jumps against TSN. No reason. Scummy as hell.
Gimbo, post 140, follows Sideney. For now he’s confirmed but this is scummy as hell.
Imausername, post 141, follows him with a decent reason.
TSN, post 145, makes an interesting reasoning.
[quote=“TSN”]
But while I do think gimbo needs to be vigged, I, while making a sandwich, started thinking that as a town, we could build a lot of cop-doc combinations. [/quote]
In fact I like his attempt to optimize our coins. He is probably not right most of the time but at least he tries.
Farside, post 152, jumps against him with so-so reasoning.
SSF, post 156, IGMEOYs TSN. Jumping subtly in a silly bandwagon.
Next posts are comments about TSN coin-pooling suggestion. Farside seems specially aggressive against this proposition.
Gimbo, post 189, his big revelation : the 1up mushroom. This probably confirms him as A NECROMANCER ROLE. I still don’t get why a Toad would have a revival ability. I would have expected another name but whatever, his claim seems believable and too risky and easy to prove to be scum motivated.
Farside, post 219, gives a mushroom to Gimbo. Then she votes for me for suspecting that Gimbo didn’t have a Toad role. She arrives to this conclusion.
[quote=“Farside”]
IE everyone looks like a Toad, but not everyone is a toad. [/quote]
I still don’t get why she voted for me. Does she probably look like a Toad but isn’t one?
After that Gimbo realizes that he has fucked himself up and that he cant hold two items.
Farside, post 252 jump against Surye who proposes a decent way to prove Gimbo’s claim.
Sideney, post 269, follows Farside in this dumb reasoning.
All that follows is some nice reasoning about the 1UP Mushroom. Surye confirms that Gimbo has the 1UP mushroom. Farside is still paranoic about that exchange.
FaerieLord, post 324, still against coinpooling and defends Farside.
Mr.Incredibell, post 325, jumping against TSPN with soso reason.
The Cream-wagon starts. Surye tells us that the 1UP Mushroom has an abiility useful for scum.
Mr. Incrediball, post 354, unvotes. Wants more reasoning.
Rice, post 365, joins a TSN wagon started by Gimbo. Not agreeing with him. Poor reason.
Rogue, post 366, joins this wagon. Not agreeing with him. Poor reason.
Farside, post 387, last attempt to bring suspicion to TSN.
Rogue tells us that he bandwagoned TSN to get reactions and that he doesn’t see the case on cream.
Next posts are deciding between Cream, Rogue or Farside lynch.
Farside, page 19, shows us that she is probably good at maths. Cream is also good at maths.
Some replacements come in, town gets disorganized, all need a reread. The Cream wagon starts again.
Faerie Lord says that the town wants Cream dead and iamausername and Farside jump against him. Armxl joins later. Surye adds some spice.
SSF, Rogue and Mr.Incredibell jump conveniently in the wagon. I still don’t see the reason.
Rice votes No lynch. WTF?
Sideney votes Cream
Iamausername joins FL wagon.
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You are going to hate me for this but my quotes didnt work.
Mod, can you delete the previous post?
Yey, analysis.
First was the Random stage.
First pages and Gimbo makes some crazy silly things.
Somestragenflea post 117. Jumps seriously against a probably easy silly target = Gimbo.
Cream post 118. Scummy as hell. Follows SSF in his attacks against Gimbo.
Phoebus, post 119, is probably town. Decent reason for voting Cream.Cream wrote: somestrangeflea, I'm impressed that you've managed to read through all the rubbish and find some actual scummy quotes from Gimbo. You put forward a decent case for this stage of the game which is why I Vote: Gimbo.
SSF post 124. Keeping the attack against Gimbo.
Neutral about Farside, post 125. Relaxed and pacifist tone.
Armlx, post 126, is probably town. Joins Cream’s wagon again for a decent reason.
(Note : If Cream comes up innocent we should reevaluate the last four lignes)
Neutral about Celeboki, post 133. Pacifist tone
Sideney, post 134, joins Cream wagon. At this point of the wagon all the reasons are repetitions of the previous ones.
Cream, post 135, blatant backtrack.
TSN, post 137, gives one coin to armlx. Let’s see his explanation.TSN wrote: Ok...admittedly I didn't check that. I will Unvote for now...but Gimbo, you are annoying me a lot.
Sideney, post 138, jumps against TSN. No reason. Scummy as hell.TSN wrote: You again. I don't. But if he doesn't use it on gimbo, which is what I want to happen, then I'll go after him tomorrow.
Gimbo, post 140, follows Sideney. For now he’s confirmed but this is scummy as hell.
Imausername, post 141, follows him with a decent reason.
TSN, post 145, makes an interesting reasoning.
In fact I like his attempt to optimize our coins. He is probably not right most of the time but at least he tries.TSN wrote: But while I do think gimbo needs to be vigged, I, while making a sandwich, started thinking that as a town, we could build a lot of cop-doc combinations.
Farside, post 152, jumps against him with so-so reasoning.
SSF, post 156, IGMEOYs TSN. Jumping subtly in a silly bandwagon.
Next posts are comments about TSN coin-pooling suggestion. Farside seems specially aggressive against this proposition.
Gimbo, post 189, his big revelation : the 1up mushroom. This probably confirms him as A NECROMANCER ROLE. I still don’t get why a Toad would have a revival ability. I would have expected another name but whatever, his claim seems believable and too risky and easy to prove to be scum motivated.
Farside, post 219, gives a mushroom to Gimbo. Then she votes for me for suspecting that Gimbo didn’t have a Toad role. She arrives to this conclusion.
I still don’t get why she voted for me. Does she probably look like a Toad but isn’t one?Farside wrote: IE everyone looks like a Toad, but not everyone is a toad.
After that Gimbo realizes that he has fucked himself up and that he cant hold two items.
Farside, post 252 jump against Surye who proposes a decent way to prove Gimbo’s claim.
Sideney, post 269, follows Farside in this dumb reasoning.
All that follows is some nice reasoning about the 1UP Mushroom. Surye confirms that Gimbo has the 1UP mushroom. Farside is still paranoic about that exchange.
FaerieLord, post 324, still against coinpooling and defends Farside.
Mr.Incredibell, post 325, jumping against TSPN with soso reason.
The Cream-wagon starts. Surye tells us that the 1UP Mushroom has an abiility useful for scum.
Mr. Incrediball, post 354, unvotes. Wants more reasoning.
Rice, post 365, joins a TSN wagon started by Gimbo. Not agreeing with him. Poor reason.
Rogue, post 366, joins this wagon. Not agreeing with him. Poor reason.
Farside, post 387, last attempt to bring suspicion to TSN.
Rogue tells us that he bandwagoned TSN to get reactions and that he doesn’t see the case on cream.
Next posts are deciding between Cream, Rogue or Farside lynch.
Farside, page 19, shows us that she is probably good at maths. Cream is also good at maths.
Some replacements come in, town gets disorganized, all need a reread. The Cream wagon starts again.
Faerie Lord says that the town wants Cream dead and iamausername and Farside jump against him. Armxl joins later. Surye adds some spice.
SSF, Rogue and Mr.Incredibell jump conveniently in the wagon. I still don’t see the reason.
Rice votes No lynch. WTF?
Sideney votes Cream
Iamausername joins FL wagon.
Not too much to add. Goborage replaces and FoSes iamausername for a misread.Call me Tajo.
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CONCLUSION (for the people who dont like to read)
Decent lynches: Rogue, Cream,
Possible decent lynches : Farside, Sideney or Mr. Incrediball, SSF.
Prob townies: Gimbo, Armlx, Phoebus, populartajo.
Vote : Rogue
Im going to ask some questions.
Do you think Gimbo could be scum now that we know that the 1UP mushroom also has a scum ability?
What was the exact reasn for voting Faerie Lord?
iamausername, Farside, Armxl, Surye, SSF, Rogue and Mr.IncredibelCall me Tajo.
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I agree with the star plan. I have zero coins and zero items.
I also dont think Gimbo is confirmed innocent. I thought he was going to die yesterday. I dont know if scum though I was Peach but the logical play (unless we have dumb scum) was to kill someone as active as him and with a powerful item.
Also, for the flavor used in the lynch, does that mean that DK is another scum group?Call me Tajo.
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Ok. No fishy things here. Im actually gathering a lot of information with that post and the coin pooilng. That was like the first thing I was going to tell you.
The second thing Ill tell you later.
Now,
1)I want to know why Alabaska is so worried to give me coins and
2)how beneficial for town would it be to know the quantity of coins everyone has, creating a way to control the buying of items.
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I have a bad feeling about this post.armlx wrote:
I don't like this. Its practically a mass claim on coins, which I think will help the mafia more then us by far.if we get him a star he could hold everyone's extra coins over night and re distribute them the next day to keep scum from gaining coins from kills. only drawback is if there is some sort of scum coin stealing night ability. . .
Alabaska's distrust of a confirmed townie is odd. Add him to the list.
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I see. Ive though in you guys giving me all your coins and redistributing in semi confirmed players but I doubt you'll agree with me.
How benefitial would it be for town to know who has no coins? Scum as a reduced group should have at least some coins, right?
My idea of coinclaiming would be that I can see Bowser having a lot of coins as he's the one who probably flowered me yesterday.Call me Tajo.
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Hi guys. Im waiting Law for calling the failed transactions before I make an official count. Maybe Flameaxe can help with that.
About the coinpooling, Im still thinking in a way we can all optimize this situation. Im defintely thinking in coinclaiming and then finding a way to test the claim. Until this moment, some players (iamusername, for example) have already done this.
I sincerely think at least one scum have more coins than the normal townie and we can stop the buy of fireflowers for that group.
Also, seeing that we have an easy confirmation item (Feather) early in a very possible townie player (I dnt remember his name) I assume scum have a way to counter, kill, roleblock,etc, a confirmed townie. I hope the power of the star is enough to avoid this.
Armlx and Alabaska
1. How many coins do you think scum could have?
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I believe Cream's claim.farside22 wrote:Because he is missing what you are missing in the claim.
I think you are scum too basically.iamausername wrote:farside, Gimbo, Surye, why are you unvoting Cream for claiming this game's version of a vanilla townie? How does that in any way convince you that the evidence against him is wrong?
Beside iamausername and Alabaska J who wants me to explain what it is that is they are missing?
Actually one better. Popularjato (sorry I know I am killing your name here) Do you believe Cream's claim? Don't say why just answer. If you don't I will explain why I do after that. mkky
However I dont find iamusername scummy at all. So Im totally not liking this wagon.
Whats wrong with Alabaska? I was thinking he was town as he was the only one who was doubting my role, (such a bad play for scum) but why does he subtly protect Iamusername and suddenly attack Rice?
And Farside I know you got excited with what you found out but stop otuing possible no Peach roles. Please.Call me Tajo.
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By Law count I have already 8 coins.
Im not liking Alabaska for some reason. And I have a bad feeling about Armlx. I might reread. But for now I agree with iamusername.
Unvote. Vote : Mr. Incrediball.Call me Tajo.
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huh?armlx wrote:This is so awkward.....
I want a claim.Alabaska wrote:can we please just lynch him. I really don't feel like waiting for a replacement even though it is the right thing to do.Call me Tajo.
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Ok WE NEED MASSCLAIM. It doesnt matter if scum know all of our roles beacuse if we dont lynch Bowser today then WE LOSE.
Ok I still dont have a massclaim order but I definetely know who I want claiming first. Alabaska go.Call me Tajo.
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