Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

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Hooray!

Rereading soon.

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OK, not a superb reread, but enough.

OK, Readthrough (note, I’m only highlighting on important posts I see):

Post 36 (Alabaska J): Alabaska J confirms late. It’s a kindy touchy scum tell. I usually don’t rely on it.

Post 66 (Gimbo): Gimbo sure talks a lot about bandwagons in this game. He also uses the F-word a lot too. Shame!

Post 77 (Gimbo): 1st paragraph makes no sense at all. 2nd paragraph, he says not to analyze all his posts. (?)

Post 80 (Gimbo): Another bad post by Gimbo. Makes me remember Disciple Slayer.

Posts 83-99 (armlx, killa seven, Gimbo, populartajo, maybe more): All discussing who Gimbo is. Then Gimbo and populartajo got into a emoticon war.

Post 100 (Rogue Shenanigans): thank goodness we have your sensibility.

Post 115 (Phoebus): and an ultra dose of sensibility doesn’t hurt, either.

Post 119 (Phoebus): I know why he voted that way. It may have possibly been a bad move on Cream’s part.

Note: Intense readthrough here (at 152) and so far, I agree with the whole TSN case.

Note: Gimbo’s claim seems definitely…off.

Post 217 (populartajo): definitely agreeing with this.

Post 218 (Gimbo): “half the

town’s

posted?” Self explanatory.

Post 234 (Phoebus) I don’t like pressure wagons.

Post 246 (Gimbo): I have a weird idea about the giving away of the mushroom, I’ll post it at the end.

Post 373 (pepsidude) I agree that Gimbo’s role seems to keep getting bigger, but I don’t think he is scum.

Note: agreeing that Rogue Shenanigans reaction was weird. Will probably vote later in readthrough.

Yeah. I'm thinking I don't agree much with TSN's policy, on a hunch, Gimbo is fairly cleared, and Rogue's action of jumping off that bandwagon like a cat in a thunderstorm (ooh, bad metaphor) makes me do this:

Vote: Rogue Shenanigans

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Sorry...I'm happy with my vote on Rogue. I think his jump is way more suspicious then Cream.

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Visible votecount:
Cream147 (6): armlx, Phoebus, Alabaska J, Gimbo, TheSweatpantsNinja, killa seven
TheSweatpantsNinja (2): Riceballtail, iamausername
Alabaska J (2): populartajo, farside22
somestrangeflea (1): Dead Rikimaru
Rogue Shenanigans (1): skitzer

No lynch (1): malthusis

Not voting (11): Surye, andersonw, Pepsidude, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, mr. incrediball, Rogue Shenanigans, DragonsofSummer, somestrangeflea, sideney

With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.

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Hmm… Some things to note since last post:

Riceballtail is acting…strange. First he votes Surye, then No Lynch? I totally agree with Alabaska’s statement against him that this isn’t EpicMafia.

FoS: Riceballtail

I’m not a fan of pressure wagons. But I didn’t plan on switching to FaerieLord’s wagon anyway, seeing as my vote on Rogue Shenanigans is pretty much set in stone unless something amazingly scummy happens.

I, like Cream147, also would like to populartajo’s lurking, but also the weird post he made about hating Day 1. It seemed way out of the blue.

I dislike how some people are saying this game has no depth…I see bunches and bunches of depth in this game, maybe ya just gotta work hard to find it

Weird how mr. incrediball, when talking about the FaerieLord wagon, says an exact carbon copy of what Surye said earlier about the Cream147 wagon…

Gimbo made a lot of sense in the post about Riceballtail voting No-Lynch. Kudos to you.

Also, If we

were

going to do the vig cop thing tonight (which I don’t support because it’ll be a lot of randomness and could possibly hurt the town well beyond repair) we’d need a lot of planning. And I don’t see much planning going on.

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LOL wait. Riceballtail is so much more scummy than Rogue Shenanigans...

NL just for reactions? Please.

Unvote, Vote Riceballtail

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My read through of Riceballtail

(7) - confirm post
(42) - random vote
(93) - a joke about BM.
(233) - clarifies that there is probably a Mario and Luigi role, by what the first post said.
(304) - points out that there are no regular power roles and approves of Gimbo’s trade and trade back to Surye.
(365) - agrees with Rogue Shenanigans on the fact that pooling coins is only good for scum, a point I also agree with, and he votes TheSweatpantsNinja.
(372) - says that we need a bigger bandwagon on TheSweatpants Ninja.
(508) - tries to summarize 21 pages for me, thinks that farside could be scum, but still says he supports a lynch of TheSweatpantsNinja.
(512) - explains what Gimbo’s 1-UP mushroom does.
(550) - VLA Post
(603) - says there is no beneficial discussion. Somewhat disagrees with Gimbo’s lurker hunting. Votes Surye for revealing the scum benefit of the 1-UP mushroom. In my opinion, it is better that Surye did, because now we know that we need to be extra careful with it so that it doesn’t fall into scum hands.
(625) - says he’s

okay

with a No Lynch on day 1. It is entirely possible for many good cases to form on Day 1, which could all lead to scum.
(627) - says that we have already decided that we are going to do a mass vig/cop tonight, when nothing of the sort has been decided.
(643) - unvotes and says he is going to process these new thoughts
(689) - agrees with wagon on Phoebus (I don’t find it that good myself) and says his No Lynch vote was just testing reactions…
(692) - says that laziness can help catch scum…scum are more likely to be the ones playing than the ones lurking, IMO.
(701) - says that my vote on him was the exact reaction he was looking for. Did you expect everyone to brush it off and just say “Oh, he just voted No Lynch because he was

testing reactions.

”?

Also, @ Rogue Shenanigans: I believe this situation is entirely different from yours: You jumped off a bandwagon, while I voted for someone who had no votes at all.

FoS: Rogue Shenanigans

just to keep my suspicions up there.

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What the heck Armix a strong FOS for Rogue. Get with it. He doesn't even give a good reason to jump from one wagon to the other.

If I had a second vote it would be there. However, I do not. Cream's utter dismissal of the case on him and Rogue + Riceball's attempts to pass off scummy actions as reaction testing would all deserve votes if I had them actually, but I find the first more suspect. Unsure who wins the tie breaker between the last two based on Rogue's wagoning vs. Riceball's rediculous "It just sounds scummy" comment on skitzer.

I agree with the first sentence, even though armlx has now changed his vote.

In other news, everyone calling

Phoebus

"Pheebz" is annoying me for some reason.

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Pheebs looks like a very nice person. (Oh no, now I sent us on a birdwalk.)

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I am willing to give Rogue time to prove his role. It is interesting idea and if tomorrow he can't give the item to someone then I would be up for a lynch.

unvote:
vote: RBT

Another vote hopper that adds nothing. Looks good to go

I'm not sure I see how this is going to help, because Rogue doesn't have the coins to get his banana (BTW, armlx, banana innuendos FTW).

FomS: farside22

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Hmmm...as Riceballtail's claim is somewhat proven, I'm going to

Unvote, Vote Rogue Shenanigans.

But because of huge ties between Rogue and Rice, If Rogue flips scum, then expect my vote to be on Rice tomorrow.

Also, It is strange how slow posting was, and now, as we near the deadline, people are posting a lot more. I think we should maintain that posting rate throughout the entire day.

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OK.

I was thinking about this during the night: RBT claimed as Yoshi, and he can't hold items or anything. But I was like, "Wait, yoshi has arms!". So I thought some more, and those little bombs, Bob-Ombs, don't have arms, so they couldn't hold coins or items in that facture...

Just a hunch, but I'm going to

Vote: Riceballtail

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Well if he's dead, will that work? Maybe I'm confused.

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OK.

I was thinking about this during the night: RBT claimed as Yoshi, and he can't hold items or anything. But I was like, "Wait, yoshi has arms!". So I thought some more, and those little bombs, Bob-Ombs, don't have arms, so they couldn't hold coins or items in that facture...

Just a hunch, but I'm going to

Vote: Riceballtail

I would like a bit more input on this. It seems plausible.

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I'll contribute, if he needs any more coins.

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Give one coin to populartajo.

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I'm waiting for something other than the populartajo coin-giving to spur. That seems to be hogging the spotlight...

Also, Alabaska J, I thought there weren't power roles? Maybe I'm just confused.

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Well, but they haven't really been power roles...Gimbos was, but I don't see any others that are truly power roles. Fore example, if Riceballtail's claim is real, it's more of an unpower role. And I don't think Peach has any special powers.

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Yes, I did contribute.

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I think too townie would be like, giving more than the norm. It would be like "I'm so eager with this plan, I'm going to give ALL my coins."

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yeah I know, I was just showing what might be a too townie example in this game.

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I was the one who had the problem with RBT's claim. IT could more easily be a Bob-Omb than a Yoshi.

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farside, Gimbo, Surye, why are you unvoting Cream for claiming this game's version of a vanilla townie? How does that in any way convince you that the evidence against him is wrong?

No, he has a protection item, that's not this game's version of vanilla.

A protection item that ANYONE, INCLUDING SCUM, CAN BUY FOR THREE COINS.

How are we certain that scum can buy things for the same amounts we can? I've kind of been wondering about this.

Oh, and

unvote, vote iamusername

I find this wagon much more sustaining than my vote on Riceballtail.

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Oh...I thought it only posted general values.

Unvote

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Oh!

After a few rereads I FINALLY got it.

I'm so dumb.

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Um, I may have missed something, but why did iamusername's transaction fail?

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Reasons people should vote for Alabaska: he's being awfully defensive and trying to get people to lynch me; yet there has yet to be a counterclaim, or proof that my claim is false. Basically, since I found him suspicious, now he has to OMGUS me to death. So, let us carry on and lynch this scum.

Although I don’t exactly agree with either yours our Alabaska’s opinions, defending yourself isn’t a scumtell; defending others is a possible scumtell. I don’t think there will be two Yoshis, so I don’t think anyone will counterclaim.

Alabaska, you really like that shovel don't you? Gonna plant another Piranha seed in that hole you're digging?

On another note, Piranha Plants don’t have hands either. Nor can they talk.

Unvote

if I’m voting. I can see key stuff on mr. incrediball. We need to hear more from Phoebus, who was relatively active in the beginning but now isn’t.

And… R.I.B. (Rest In Bannedness) Gimbo.

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I'm really confused by farside22's question. armlx can't answer it, and he is the only one who knows this. Surye makes a good point.

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It is also growing liek Gimbo's did.

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I will have limited access from August 1st to August 15th. Some days I know I wont have access, some days I will, and somedays I'm not quite sure yet. Here is a tentative schedule:

Red

= No Access

Yellow

= Possible Access

Green

= Definite Access

August 1st

August 2nd

August 3rd

August 4th-August 8th

August 9th

August 10th

August 11th-August15th

Mod edit
Visible Votecount:
FaerieLord (2): Korts, ashmite84
ashmite84 (1): TheSweatpantsNinja

Not voting (18): iamausername, skitzer, Wintermute, forbiddanlight, somestrangeflea, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, Alabaska J, farside22, ting =), DarlaBlueEyes, FaerieLord, Lord Gurgi, Cream147, Riceballtail, goborage, populartajo

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Actually, I can see him being a one shot vig with that. He ruined it with his claim though. Then again, the trickery portion is somewhat scummy. I'll...have to read goborage tomorrow to see if his actions match the projected alignment. Also, I think it'd be wise to not try to outguess the mod given people's items. If a theme game is properly done, flavor doesn't give you good hints. (If I'm wrong, I'm not insulting you Lawrence, because I could see you having trouble making the flavor be meaningless given the set up). Now, to completely be a hypocrite, if the item is an indicator, he's likely with Wario or Bowser (Yeah, I know, 2 out of the 3 scum factions we know of...I lean Wario...it fits the trickery motif)

I agree with this. It seems like Riceballtail wasn't thinking very hard...

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here. Will try to get something in AFAP before deadline.

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no one has explained why i am dying tonight.

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Townie. I semi-breadcrumbed/revealed earlier, when I agreed with Cream's claim.

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A) It was when we were gonna lynch Cream, and farside22 understood why it was real and so did I, at least somewhat.
B) I'm pretty sure I deleted the PM, but I think I have one coin. If both these transactions go through though, I'll try another one.

Give one coin to populartajo
Give one coin to populartajo

C) Yes, in the fact that I am a townie and that is our goal.

D) Nothing, really. Started with no items.

I'm a vanilla townie, which there seems to be few of in this game.

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I'm also confused. I'm a vanilla townie, why am I not? Unless there is role manipulation, you say lies.

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Tajo, you ARE getting yourself some protection tonight RIGHT?

I'm sorry, but at this I must lol.

Now, please explain why you think I "fail". I'm entitled to it, if I'm going to die anyway.

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So i guess I'm not normal. But that doesn't make me not pro-town.

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Vote: Alabaska J

to whoever asked, I don't have any mushroom related info. It did say I was the lowliest of the mushroom kingdom though.

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What Korts is saying is true. If I bought a feather, I could use it to the effect of a rolecop.

This game was hard for scum.