BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Bell]

Endless Terror

Has there ever been a more appropriate name for a hydra?

I claim Ascetic Nihilist.

[Bell]

It's okay there are only 15 of us.
How bad could this possibly get?

Hi Gamma.

[Bell]

...Why did he hydra with you if he hates pages of spam?

[Bell]

Hey Ydrasse,

What's an anti at field?

VOTE: Tsunami Slayer

[Bell]

...And what's an at field?

[Bell]

Well, that's terrifying.

Pedit: Less so.

[Bell]

Mine.

VOTE: Endless Terror

[Bell]

So's mine in a manner of speaking.

Have you ever thought about fake claiming as a miller before or done so gypyx?

[Bell]

Time well spent.
Why did I unvote tsunami again

[Bell]

Oh yeah, sweet, sweet town cred.
My actual claim this game is obvious town.

@Gypyx I just meant as scum whether you've ever fake claimed a miller/asetic early game before or if you personally think you might.

[Bell]

Hi ari btw. How goes it?

@Gamma, Hello, hello.

@Pedit: The latter. It's my style to obv town as obv town~

[Bell]

Except for at the beginning where I swear people can't read me because I fluff post.
It's a mystery, my fluffiness is town positive.

I think gyp is a slur for gypsy, but maybe not.

[Bell]

I'd like to say great but that would be a miserable, miserable lie.

But I'm alive.

I thought getting gypped was a reference to gypsies as a slur against them because like other forms of discrimination it implied that they cut poor deals.

[Bell]

Speaking of geriatric, while I won’t be asking for active control of post counts I’d like if we utilized the geriatric guidelines for play this game

Is this a serious request?
Boonskies would not approve.

[Bell]

Who did I have to kill to sleep till 10 am. *Dreamy*

@ydrasse, why are you throwing shade at obv town

[Bell]

There is only one scum here and their initials are ET

[Bell]

There is only one scum here and their initials are ET

eric trump?

you are town bell. stop not knowing how to read me pls.

-tay

Him too.
Could you give me lessons.

[Bell]

Be grateful I'm busy today or else there would be at least 6 more pages.
Though, I'll see what I can do about Gamma's request. /: It makes me a little uncomfortable.

I think I wanna talk to Shellyc. Since hypothetically, I *Should* be able to read her from my big book of bullshit meta.

[Bell]

Why do I get scum points for doing something that isn’t townie or scummy according to you?

[Bell]

Is...is Taylor swift communicating with the town before going off on her own?
*gives Taylor a gold star and her favorite candy*

How can you resolve this maze-like conundrum without you giving away too much info to the scum team?
Think about it with what you know of your role and discuss it with shelly and come back to us and then maybe talk to gypx if you feel comfortable with it.

[Bell]

VOTE: unvote

[Bell]

Part of that communication would hopefully be an agreement about when it would be optimal to come forward and with how much~

[Bell]

Probably the first and easiest thing to do here is just ask Gypyx if he was being honest with his opening claim.

Just FYI. I was not. My second claim however was true.
Pedit: between Taylor and shelly.

[Bell]

Sometimes asking leads to magical results.
Don’t assume you know what someone is going to say before they say it.

[Bell]

Tsunami's silence is scaring me tbh

[Bell]

What is tsunami at right now?

[Bell]

:/
VOTE: tsunami

[Bell]

Why are you voting the slot that’s getting replaced :/

Do you want me to get out the replace outs are slightly higher to be scum or power role pamphlet.
I usually have to say it once per game

[Bell]

I’m not sure they’re replacing out and not just lurking

[Bell]

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

Final round in job interviews.
Coming up Tuesday.
I’ll see what I can do.
But my attention is going to be spilt.

[Bell]

Eh, more than one slot with far more familiarity with both heads of

Tsunami

are saying they're scum, and I think my other head is still leaning that way.

It feels icky to wagon until a replacement comes, no? Unless we just plan to fast lim this slot now and save

Boony

the effort, which I don't think is logistically helpful for gamesolving this early in D1.

Also, where

Ari

at?

D:<

How can I soulread someone who is about as active as

Nico

?

Bell

, since you seem to be busy I'll make this easier for you, I point you to 55 to 58

(and maybe any of the many posts and people who've discussed these two posts more than the rest of my entire ISO)

, 333, 463, as well as a general look into

HUB's

ISO.

I know this seems like a lot but it's like 30 posts maximum unless you casually see everybody's posts about you desiring to be townread or me having a shady AF entrance and care about those...

Give like, any degree of detail in commentary, and encourage me to converse with you because right now - I'm just reading your ISO and everybody's input on you as

"oh, that's logical. AI? waffles."

~Taly

first link doesn't work.
1. This is well trod ground at this point.
2. Ari has school to survive.
3. I'm not a monkey. ~ I give analysis when I think it's appropriate to give analysis and when I feel like it.
4. Pass on HUB detailed commentary, are you trying to pit me against them because they're scum reading you?Their iso looks fine. minus 438 which I'm leery of because it's very early for that kind of reads list.

Hey so, why is samantha getting wagonned exactly? It seems mostly like low-explaination votes compared to the rest of this game

Ehh, I feel the same about

BEF

votes.

99% sure bell / tsunami aren't S/S

More content from bell would be appreciated

A post that is like a lot of others. Implication of knowing players that I don't.

Is

Bell

a busser?

~Taly

I think I favor bussing to not bussing. But never d1. As ydrasse can attest from our forest fire game together(I will get pissed if I get associated with a d1 scum flip I had a hand in).
I don't think Noraa or offsuit like being scum. Though yeah, I probably shouldn't get into that due to the angle shoot issue.

[Bell]

s'not an analysis it's mafia PT dives.

[Bell]

Why are you guys posting at 1:52 am.
Why am I posting at 1:52 am.

[Bell]

V/LA till Wednesday @Boon

[Bell]

Skimmed..

@vax, you sound like you’re putting on a performance. /: do you usually sound like that?
Have you claimed yet? If not, why not?
Back to prep.

[Bell]

What’s with the sudden correlation of performative = scummy? I think you’re underestimating how dramatic people can be
Though I just reread the troll arc of Homestuck which is rife with valid and gratuitous drama

I'm asking for clarification on that point because it's not a sure thing.

[Bell]

So is hectic happy unbirthday boonskies or happy birthday boonies or taly.

[Bell]

I feel better bout Pelican.

[Bell]

Plz protect me from his town lead ire.

[Bell]

Yeah, I just finished my interview so should be back to full time (as far as full time can be with 4 games running).

[Bell]

Romanee Contee.

I love saying that. It sounds so stupid.

[Bell]

So are you gunna claim or are we hammering you and finding out the fun way.

[Bell]

I do support this. I rely a tiny amount on meta and would be happier with Hectic here than hectic not here/hiding.
I should probably respect his wishes more tho. But win condition.

[Bell]

I'll obv town eventually, 4 games tho.

[Bell]

Bell, you're usually good at spotting scum because of fake tone. Vax is incredibly obvscum to me. Any elements of his posts that are supposed to show he's angry or emotional read as very fake and performative to me.

Ongoing. But I think he's scum, yes.

[Bell]

That is extremely, extremely sad.

I'm sorry.

[Bell]

I feel better bout Pelican.

y tho?

I felt bad when they said I was treating them unfairly.

[Bell]

*flops unti game shore like a beached whale. I’m so tired*
Did I say gamma was town yet.

[Bell]

Srsy tho, vax is playing terrible if town(er,if you’re town vax i’m sorry).

Itcher is Wally but that’s not enuff.
Thank you for your effort gammas. I salute you.

*ocean drags whale corpse back into the sea*

Bell out.

[Bell]

[post=Happy Unbirthday Boon]Happy Unbirthday Boon[/post]

Am I scum yet

[Bell]

VOTE: Happy unbirthday Boon

Woops, tee hee.

[Bell]

If there’s no sign of nico getting replaced I might be cool with that. For now:
VOTE: Ircher

Is this real

[Bell]

@HBB, you sure? I could bus another one of my buddies if you'd like.

[Bell]

Also, this exploded again.
I'm burnt out from Death curse game that just ended so have mercy and slow down plz.

[Bell]

VOTE: Endless Terror

Bad vote probably.

[Bell]

Why is HUB in the middle, Ydrasse?

More importantly, why am I in the middle.

[Bell]

Why am I dead center in everyone's reads list except for HBB who knows I don't bus D1 and Shelly who doesn't know I never bus d1.

[Bell]

I still like my Hub vote tbh.

Though would like the other half of BEF's VCA.

[Bell]

I still like my Hub vote tbh.

Though would like the other half of BEF's VCA.

what do you like about it tho, and why do you think you should not be in the middle of people's lists? What have you done this game that is ai from your point of view?

It feels nice to vote scum

[Bell]

It feels nice to vote scum

So why aren't you doing so now?

I'm not?

[Bell]

Are you asking me to treat you fairly.

[Bell]

Why do you want me to make a good argument if I'm wrong anyway?

[Bell]

That makes sense.

[Bell]

You seem awfully upset about this.

[Bell]

It is about logical reasoning but it's also about social reasoning.
I'm just pressuring you dude.
You defended scum last phase.
So I wanted to see how you'd respond.
I was about to unvote you and probably still will and be forced to drag you across the finish line.
But we'll see.

[Bell]

Ah, sorry.
It.

[Bell]

VOTE: Aristophanes

It wasn't kitty. I just play Dirty. Well, not really, you got upset on your own, but that's pretty common.

[Bell]

I think your rage is fairly genuine, sort of town minded?
At the very least your focus was on reading me, while also losing your shit and not caring, but well, we all forget our win condition sometimes.

We all have our own play styles, but some of us just are mercurial it's not really in my interest to know that I'm town it's just in my interest to find scum.
I only really obv town when I need to because it's exhausting. I hate being pressured.

Not everyone is going to break out their textbooks and argue at you with logic tho.

[Bell]

mm.
faking ignorance is pretty common for scum tho.
I assume you're thinking they'd know their partners fake claim or something in an s/s world?

[Bell]

If every vote on my wagon is "I'm voting you for the sake of pressuring you" then I have nothing to actually respond to and my concerns, especially since Ari continues to just not play the game and there's like 2 other non-town that I honestly just don't know where are. To produce content that is readable, I need to be able to solve the people no my wagon and determine whether it's a misguided town wagon or a scum-driven wagon. GX is "feel like it" and you are "pressure" and TGP is "don't like it" ... how am I supposed to solve the alignments of any of those reasons lol, how is anybody?

I like this sentiment tbh

It's just not true in reality nor is it definite that what was one way will remain that way forever.
Just because I don't give out reasons doesn't mean I don't have them or that you can't pry them out of me if you want.

[Bell]

You're not wrong.
But maybe it will bring something.

[Bell]

It's awkward because I want him to focus on College,
But I also need him here to engage for win condition.
Priorities.

[Bell]

It is an easy vote to hop on.
But I don't see this wagon as having the intent to end him. It's symbolic really.
Even scum can hop on.

[Bell]

Good night Ydrasse.

[Bell]

Best person to ask is BEF whenever he comes by.
Mystery pufferfish tho. I dunno why he only wrote half of his thing either.

[Bell]

Oh wow, that does sound very much like a bus vote.

[Bell]

Thank you for elaborating, Ydrasse. In general, I like those thoughts.

Bell actually said Vax was scum because of "ongoing" during day 1, implying he knows what Vax's townplay looks like in the then ongoing Death Curse, but couldn't elaborate. I'd find it unusual if scum bussed and then used such a reason.

Pretty much. Vax sounded like a completely different person. Besides also being sketch. Plus Noraa hating scum. + Etc. On and on really.

[Bell]

This convo inspired me to create my own wiki.

[Bell]

Hbb and ET.
It's not much though.

[Bell]

Woops, I just searched topic. It's not very sensitive/broad on a 'nico' search.

[Bell]

Ircher's dead. He flipped town.

Could you claim your role?

[Bell]

Stop... Hammer time

VOTE: Aristophanes

Another VT claim = Another scum right?

Is this where I overreact to a fake hammer?

Worth a shot.

A flop. Looks like. I can't tell who's gambiting and who isn't.

[Bell]

I've just seen it all. scum fake hammering for Town cred,town fake hammering town for town cred/info. Scum/town fake hammer rxn/no rxn.

You're right that it was unlikely to work.
@BEF, elaborate on thought process.

[Bell]

I was just about to say it's time to consolidate a wagon and then checked and realized there are 9 days till dead line.

[Bell]

:/
VOTE: tsunami

I want to say this kinda does not feel like a bus to me?

@Gamma

I'd need more context
Bell just feels content to ride out the gamestate I think

Can confirm.
One dead scum is pretty great.

[Bell]

Can I think Ari made some good points but still think his catchup was a little scummy lol

You can, I was prolly about to move my vote to the puffer fish.

[Bell]

Gamma what's the difference between inactive Ari scum and inactive Ari town.
Ari can also answer this.

[Bell]

tbh I'm losing faith that Ari will eventually come in and do good things here

Who knows but I don't see anything else coming out of today unless activity really picks up. I'll move back to Ari if the Bell wagon doesn't go through.

I don't know what else to say though for now.

What do you think about my point on bell / tsunami not being S/S?

This is weird. I'm town because I never bus day 1 or at least would have tried to move the wagon/unvoted at some point.
Instead I just saw the scums for pretty clear reasons and yeeted the scums for ongoing game reasons that I couldn't comment at the time.
You're trying to read, like tone, when the answers right infront of you.

[Bell]

Iunno. Gyphx hasn't been bad. He was sitting around where my Ircher read was in turns of town reads. Which was just below Shelly/HBB.
I don't think it's wrong to ignore self-meta, though it's a part of my hunting cook book.

[Bell]

Ari, BEF, Shelly slid down. Glad she's back tho.

[Bell]

VOTE: BEF

I think Aris is being honest here tbh.
Let's yeet the pufferfish.

[Bell]

aren't you saying they gained credibility in your eyes instead of lost it then?

yes but its not very townie to blatantly sheep/whiteknight isn't it

the cred i give is based off too scummy to be scum, not the action itself

A double negative.

[Bell]

Scum regardless of role pm.

[Bell]

I’m pushing to see what falls out. Since nobody else seems to be applying real pressure.
I’ll give a reads list later today. Have stuff in the morning.

[Bell]

Tgp isn’t really doing anything this game.

[Bell]

TGP is scummy. no real presence anyhow. i struggle to remember anything TGP has done.

I'm pretty sure TGP's town.

I’m pretty sure you’re scum of full of shit.

[Bell]

Or*

[Bell]

I'm glad you asked for a reads list, I realized my reads were stale.

HBB: Hectic Alt. town Read has dimmed due to inactivity. Recognize it might be bias because he solved for me in a less shitty way than is usual for scum. Ive run into Hectic scum. I don't know what that looks like, but I doubt the amount of information I currently have is enough to sort here.
HUB: Pretty low scum to neutral initially, I liked how he reacted to me and felt it was frustrated town rather than frustrated scum. The thing that pretty much makes me feels he's town though is that he pretty much has responded to everything without much in the way of seeming. Early reads list was a little nuts, but he mitigated that by saying it wasn't strong imo. He wants to be here, engage and move the game forward. I'd only revisit him if he suddenly started scum slipping or d4.
Samantha: Anti-associatives that I'm pretty sure Gyphx already picked up and mentioned. I would modify shoshin's grammar. Reiso blipped her down in my reads, it does seem like she was scum hunting but she tapered off.
ShellyC: This was more of a taylor read. There's a lot of initial play pointing away from her being scum. They voted Tsunami out the gate and neither waffled, which could be TMI, but I don't think Shelly had waffled on Fred yet in death curse or had that result fixed in place. Maybe I'm misremembering. Regardless, don't think so. Taylor was also more community minded in this game which I associate with town her.
Gamma: Warning for Gyphx: I still might be underestimating his scum game but he's just so much more stubborn and confrontational as town that it's hard not to auto-town him for this tell alone. I've only played with scum him once but Cabd and I had a chat in xenoblade that just finished about Gamma tells and I think it fits here. That said, on reread his entrance sucks. His reads are bad, and he should feel bad.
Gyphx: I don't know what to think of the out the gate claim of aesthetic, I'm not used to seeing aesthetic roles claim immediately.
Aristophanes: I'm sparing him almost entirely based off of tone. I think he's being honest, though I'm biting my lip writing that since it's unsatisfactory.
Shoshin: ~ I'm thinking.
Ydraase: Similar to ongoing. I don't like how she's throwing shade at me at all and nothing really has stood out about their play. Besides the shade. I don't feel like I can confidently read her from her posts this game. See scum posts, see town posts.
TGP: A barren wasteland. Next on my list tbh.
BEF: I'm trying to interpret his takes and what win condition he's heading for and kind of failing. Made a number of posts that seemed to be watching and waiting.
A good elimination imo.

[Bell]

I blame Thanksgiving.

[Bell]

What am I reading.

@HBB, I miswrote. I meant I've never played with scum you and etc.

Also, maybe ignore that reads list, it was super half assed. Just take the
BEF scum read, Taylor /Shelly TR, HUB TR, Ydrasse meh.

The rest is kind of up in the air for me on reread.

[Bell]

re-isolated.

It means display posts by user -> go.
See all their posts in a line with other player's posts excluded.

[Bell]

Other than anti-associatives?
Nope not that I can see.

[Bell]

Ydrasse scum:

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83971

Forest Fire.

[Bell]

I just realized I mixed up pelican with tsunami lol

VOTE: Tsunami Slayer

One could argue this post is mildly townie, more for the mixup than the vote

That's one of the anti-associatives I was speaking of. But it doesn't excuse a weak d2.

[Bell]

Yo.

[Bell]

#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.

[Bell]

Why do you think scum did not have good control of the game state early? I don't disagree with the take that Vax was acting scummy enough that bussing is more of a 'when' than an if.

[Bell]

#1813, more on this now? You're making a lot of assumptions about what scum will and won't do without giving a compelling argument for why X is behaving like a scum lord.

this post is kinda scummy tho lol

Why?

[Bell]

Did shelly really just leave me here at 12:52 Am.

[Bell]

Read their post again and ask yourself if you can tell which came first, the read or the result.
Also, no? Not really. Now seems like a good time to read them in depth and not just be content with big post hurr must be town.

[Bell]

She really did just leave me here at 1:06AM pacific standard time.
We do need to wagon up on somebody and get a claim going.

Still good with Bef, disappointed on Sam's response would have preferred...Something tangible rather than just an explanation of themselves. But bed time etc. Would like reads list tmrw, Sam.

TY
and
GOODNIGHT.

[Bell]

Parting words,
I'm not sorry you don't like my posts, I'm not satisfied with townie posts without at least some level of interaction. From my perspective I can't tell if she's working backwards or not. Which I guess wasn't clear, but that's why I'm pushing them for more.

I'm allergic to wagon spec that uses 1 on, 1 off type reasoning. But visceral reaction to a post with content on each player on it.

Your shelly read is wut. tho taylor was really townie and their posts don't go away or are separated. She's engaged with Ydrasse and I liked the interaction imo as it seemed sorty rather than "here's a read, now get off my lawn"(scum shell)
I dunno about Gamma bus.
Fair on HBB.
TGP is roughly a blank page, yes.
BEF: it sure does. imo.
Less likely on Sam imo, but I'm not gunna stand in the way.

[Bell]

@1842: Please don't make me actually point out where her assumptions are and how it's not immediately clear she's not working backwards at 1:22AM PST in TYOOL 2020.

[Bell]

that was about shelly if it wasn't obvious

I don't disagree. But I like her most recent content.

[Bell]

I mean she was casing to refute the idea that Sam was unlikely to be scum based on being a counter-wagon to Vax, so yes it was written from the POV that Sam was likely to be scum... I mean that's how cases work? Some people don't like cases but idk, I feel like we're not on the same wavelength atm

No and it makes sense for that to be the case given it's 1:29 PST and all hope is lost SOS.
Okay, now I'm going to bed.

[Bell]

Can't sleep, nother interview tomorrow sigh.

@HBB, I'm getting Matrix me vibes. I'd tell you this in our scum PT, but mod forgot to invite me.

Would you like to explain your BEF read Shoshin or you good?

[Bell]

BEF's level of effort & confidence is strongly town indicative. It's a tough read because they're always a scummy townie,

but that's just more reason to be careful about getting baited.

Are you sure they're not just scum. Because they seem like scum to me.
Their play around Tsunami was susp asf.
Their current play sucks if they're town and have you seen their reads list. What about their analysis or thoughts seems like effort to you?
This is what I mean when I say I think you're working backwards, your read of BEF isn't just outside of consensus it reads like bullshit you've conjured up out of thin air to justify an informed perspective.
You even seem to be projecting by throwing the same accusation at HBB when he at least has put some level of evidence on the table that makes some sense.

What does the bolded even mean?

[Bell]

10 hours. Would prefer BEF,
I'll be here to hammer if needed.

[Bell]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Bell]

E-3.

[Bell]

I'm kinda fascinated by the ease of the gamma wagon but dunno what it means yet lol

I'm more worried about the absence of certain players who are just allowing me to dictate today's lynch despite supposedly scum reading me.

If that's directed at me, I'm not really scum reading you.
There's a frustrating tone/content disconnect that I'm trying to explore. Your attitude is right, but your underlying reasons for your reads feels fake.

[Bell]

Not happy, not sad~ Sort of sounds of like anhedonia. Though my experience with depression is that you can feel sad and sometimes numb and often are, just rarely, if ever, happy.

Also yeah, I'm officially concerned. That wer'e not going to be able to hammer someone on time.

We have too many inactive people.

[Bell]

Sarcasm.
It's 5 hours left.
No, no we shouldn't have taken a claim. It would have been nice, but I sincerely doubt we would have been able to move in time.

[Bell]

Neither am I, dead line eliminations suck and scum hide behind the deadline as an excuse to eliminate whoever.
This wagon sucked beause Gamma couldn't respond to it, it's not even a terrible case, but without a response and a response to that response like to Ari, BEF, and you there's less information to work on post flip.

[Bell]

Isn't that like 4 commuters.

[Bell]

Aight, mass claim today.

VT, Popcorn to BEF.

[Bell]

VOTE: bef

[Bell]

Yeah pretty much.

[Bell]

Guilty on Bell.

Well, that's bullshit.

[Bell]

Wagon The fish.
He's scum.

[Bell]

Fucking seriously Shelly?

[Bell]

You think there's a cop with like 6 claimed power roles and a note thrower out there somewhere?

[Bell]

He's lying and he's obviously lying.
The writing was on the wall.

Vote BEF.

[Bell]

I'm a VT.

Not a commuter.
Commuter is VT, did you not see Gamma's flip?

[Bell]

BEF is scum.
Get Bef.

Don't make me volcanic Shelly.
He is lying and I'm not going to lose to a fucking obvious blatant lie.

[Bell]

He's either lying or game throwing and he can get yeeted either way.

You can discuss, but he's full of it and that's obvious to anyone who has ever played mafia ever.

[Bell]

i will return to this game when I'm sober but mark my words that I am heavily inclined to vote ydrasse or bell

I am heavily inclined to ask you where your brain is...
Oh your drunk.

[Bell]

Ydrasse, HUB do you actually believe BEF's claim?

[Bell]

Uh, I'm a VT dude.
There's no interference, there's no room for your claim with the other claims already made in this game. you're just lying ,knew you were getting wagoned today for your blatant scum play and just trying to get someone out the door before you get yeeted yourself.

[Bell]

..............................

Are you fucking seriously walking back a cop guilty?

[Bell]

How exactly am I supposed to react to being fake cop guiltied?

[Bell]

..............................

Are you fucking seriously walking back a cop guilty?

I have a guilty, never said I was a cop though.

A guilty is only by definition used by cops every other role in the game does not get a guilty result.

So, yeah.
You're lying.

[Bell]

Please vote Bef, he literally can't even fucking keep his story straight.

[Bell]

Yeah, but the nomenclature in the PM you would have gotten would not have been a guilty instead it would have been something else. But you used the word guilty and I am not scum so you're Full. Of. Shit.

[Bell]

Okay, guys.
Look.

BEF, he...He's bad scum. Like, really bad scum.

He's decided he's going to bite it today and he's going to take me down with him.
He was not aware that a guilty result is the wording used by the mod when you are a cop.
He said he wasn't a cop, but he said I was guilty, which means he didn't use the PM wording,
which means he didn't get a pm by the mod confirming anything and the only reason I'm saying this instead of just that it's bullshit is because I know that the person who claims a cop guilty almost always gets their elimination.

that's why I'm reacting like this because the only way to survive a fake guilty by scum is to argue and argue hard to convince others that they're bullshitting.

And BEF is. Bullshiting. It's obvious.

[Bell]

would you like to claim scum strongman?

You're bad at this.

[Bell]

I'm gunna go volanic now I guess.

Or hope TGP or Samantha or HBB is better at this game than you three and can realize this is an obvious lie from cornered scum.

[Bell]

A commuter enabler?
What the hell does that even do?
Wouldn't they know they're enabled or not based on your role?

[Bell]

Ydrasse vote Bell

No. Wait for better players to get here.

[Bell]

2158 sounds so fake

-_-

I am going to have words with you after this if you aren't just scum with Bef Shelly.

[Bell]

Please actually listen to what I'm saying.

Does it make sense for BEF to claim a guilty and then walk it back instead of pursuing it more thoughtfully if it was something else.
I didn't go anywhere and he's going to Say Sam moved me or someone else moved me or something when I flip town.

[Bell]

bell sounds so calm and different to when he was pushed in that mbos game

HAHAHAHAHA

[Bell]

Enchanters can move people right?
That's his excuse when I flip town.

Literally none of his story adds up.
If he isn't a cop which he says even though he started by saying he got a guilty on me.
then he approached me in a way that doesn't make sense. There was no caution no, hey bell did you get in the mail?
Hey Bell did you go anywhere?
Nothing, just a guilty.
And then a walk back.

[Bell]

That's not a commerizer it says it will force a player to commute.

[Bell]

i don't think that the fruit was a hard guilty but bell's reaction was

But this is actually my reaction. Can you not see that?

[Bell]

Uhh.

[Bell]

Yes I was but I doubt you were asking me.

[Bell]

Do you get to lock the thread for 5 seconds shelly, is that your super power XD?

[Bell]

Still not scum yo.

[Bell]

the thread was locked then unlocked?

Finger slipped.

Hahahahahahaha

[Bell]

It is 1 am.

I strongly advise we just wait for sam and everybody else to claim before anything else.

Sam is Bef's excuse, so it's best if she comes in here and confirms she didn't transport me.
I doubt she did.

[Bell]

Unless she's scum with Bef.

And then fuck me I guess.

[Bell]

I don't think his claim is real.
ya goats.

[Bell]

I doubt she did.

Is this a scum slip? Because if you were town then you would be 100% sure that something had to have interfered.

yes its a slip

can we nuke bell

Are you scum with Bef.

[Bell]

Yeah I would prefer people just you know,
read the game and realize I'm town and that BEF is obvious scum but like, I don't think this town is gunna be able to do that.

Just you know, don't let him get away with this tommorrow.

You have Skoshin saying he received a letter and apparently another fruit vendor out there.
Bef just got a fake claim and crumbed it early, this isn't very hard.

You're in elo tomorrow.

:et me just grab reads quick and go with what I think and then just do what you want.

[Bell]

Bef pretty much started the game out by being paralyzed by the early claims and pretty clearly didn't know what to do or how to play around the Vax wagon. Resulting in one of the lamest laziest busses of all time. Which he somehow managed to spin for a very dumb audience that he was proud of getting his vote there lije 5th or something.

His analysis and reads were usually poorly constructed, self-serving and survivalistic.
I actually thought either skoshin was a mason or informed through letter that BEF was town so I slowly took my leg off the gas petal before he vehemently denied being informed which much made me think skoshin was chainsawing for his partner.

My vote was pretty much going to be lockedon BEF from today forwards without some very convincing evidence otherwise,

Instead, I got a fake cop guilty turned into a fruit vendor claim and a lackadaisical approach to something that needed to be approached with care, but would make sense from BEF scum. But no sense from an actual town loyal fruit vendor.
Sam confirmed I wasn't moved and I expected that, Shelly has tried to push this elimination through quickly for their to be little information coming through on the flip. Which means she has confidence she is likely going to win tomorrow.
Do not let her get away with this because this sort of fake claim has her play written all over it and I doubt BEF came up with it himself.

Aristophanes play has been bleh and TGP's play has been bleh and that's why we ended up miseliminating yesterday with a mislead Skoshin who thought he knew better than the other players and that one game of good play meant something about his skills in general. You should always challenge yourself and your reads and your understanding of the game and the second BEF said guilty you turned your brains off and let him lead you by the nose into your own preconceived notions about the game state.

I think HBB is town or at least not lying about the fruit claim because why would he just randomly bring that up here as scum? His wagoning of vax seemed natural and I don't see anything in his disposition that points to him being scum, he was a little sheepy, but I don't think it was a town sheep or that he took advantage of skoshin's reads to get a miselimination through. I could be wrong, I haven't run into hectic scum before. I'm a little frustrated he didn't realize this was fake, but whatever. I assumed you would realized I was panicking town with a fake guilty and not just...scum because? I dunno. Whatever.

HUB is just kind of there, doing role spec and not changing a thing. NK of Shoshin may have been due to being town read to meh read but also just be because he wasn't buying into HUB's play.
Or it could be that He wasn't giving Sam's claim a pass. Though how she pushed back was townie from my perspective. You're kind of supposed to take a high handed approach to being a PR, though her claim was weird since she wasn't run up beforehand.
Regardless lots of Commuters, 3 VT claims. Lots of powerrole madness.

Ydrasse is another player that has spent a lot of time just sitting there and sort of going are they scum? Or are they not scum?
Which granted if you're a enabler your #1 Priority is not to die. I'd say if her claim is real she should die tonight. Oh wait. i'm not a scum strongman, but vanilla town. So there's no reason to kill her if there is one lol.
So, yeah. Town's kind of fucked. Maybe?

Anyway best of Luck.

I thought taylor was supertown but Shelly play has been really scummy I suggest you look at her super closely tommorrow since she drove my wagon almost as hard as GEF did and he was the one with the fake guilty on me.

Oh, thanks for hesitating Gyphx and at least doing the right thing here and not immediately buying into his bullshit which is really the best statement I can make here.

You guys can turn this around, but you need to work at it, since you're gunna have a bunch of inactive people alive tomorrow and like, 2 actives. Most likely you're just gunna get rail roaded into a loss based on your play today.
Please don't do that.
I hate losing.

[Bell]

Birthday today post tmrw. Have a good one.

[Bell]

Thanks.
I have job interview tmrw morning so focusing on that and just gunna neglect all my games I guess until that's done I guess.

Sorry.

[Bell]

It sucked.
I was traumatized.

[Bell]

3 scum rolls in a row was rough.
I'm okay with PT opening btw, sorry for not mentioning it earlier.

GG guys.