Monty Python's Mafia Circus Game Over

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:27 am

Albatross!

I hope that this game is a bunch of fun.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:45 am

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But then the baby would have no Mommy would she/he?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:55 am

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You there Farside, your fiendish signature is out of date.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:04 am

Albatross!

It is so nice to know that humor is sacred.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:13 am

Albatross!

I don't think it matters, Rogue Shenanigans is obviously scum.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:27 pm

Albatross!

Vote: Rogue Shenanigans

as I said in an earlier post.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #47 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:56 am

Albatross!

I love the smell of estrogen in the morning air.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:44 pm

Albatross!

Can we scum hunt now? Rogue needs to defend himself.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #87 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:29 am

Albatross!

Lucky Greek number, all I can say. Decipher it please!

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #96 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:40 am

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Are we done with the silly stuff yet? Really annoying...

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #98 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:34 am

Albatross!

But all those mistakes ought to have some penalty right?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #161 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:37 pm

Albatross!

Why is Iron Man so obviously breadcrumbing? It seems odd.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #167 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:45 am

Okay, so, here's the deal, my post restriction lifts on every 13th post I make, when the episode is on, which fulfils the world's need for Albatrosses. Every other post I make must begin and end with 'Albatross!' and can only have 12 words so it does not cause the episode to air early. I was trying to allude to the number 12 earlier. I can't multipost or I get an undisclosed penalty. I'm trying to make this post worth it so here we go.

Concerning the bread crumbing, I am suspicious of him being so forward about it. It's not bread crumbing when he says 'My role is here' that is just revealing his role. Which makes me suspicious. I'm not inclined to believe Imaginality's post restriction because he was really not paying much attention to it in pre game.

I'm not sure about Mirth, she might be required to make a lot of jokes, because she's not usually this light hearted from what I've seen.

Chenhsi is generally confused, so I think that much is genuine. Also, chenhsi, imaginality maintains that

The Internet I have no particular lean on, however the last post I do not like, because we can't be sure that he is either town or serious.

I'm discouraged by the fact that Farside and others are not contributing but just joking, I have no problem with joking, don't just make it all you do.

I'm a little worried about the role dropping, because it might have unforeseen effects on the game. This is a shaft.ed game, if something is unexpected it happened already.

If you ask me a question or want my input from here on out it would be appreciated if you made a system of abbreviations to let me answer the question in a single post.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #172 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:24 am

Albatross!

RS has one post. IM seems odd to want guesses.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #225 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:33 am

Where's Jordan? He still has 4 votes but he's fallen off the face of the earth. Strappado's actions seem more like bad play style than scumminess.

SPN, how do you know he's a power role? As is we only know his name...

Shaft.ed, we all love the flavor (all dissenters will be lynched) bring it baaack.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #226 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:33 am

Albatross!

Well freak, there we go, now to see my penalty.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #229 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:53 am

Albatross!

I talked about it before, read it up there please.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #232 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:08 am

Albatross!

I forgot about it. Still waiting for my penalty, Farside.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #253 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:40 am

Albatross!

^This post is hypocrisy. Tasty Hypocrisy. This is a scumtell.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #270 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:59 pm

Albatross!

I suggest imaginality quotes Bruces saying people's names for clarity.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #281 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:15 am

Albatross!

Night Action Nullified, LuG is loooking scummy now. Nothing else.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #286 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:14 am

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Math check mod,

Unvote; Vote: Luigi

. Causing chaos is scummy.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #292 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:12 am

Albatross!

There is almost something to say, try it some time.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #298 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:35 am

Albatross!

It's because they want to be to with his wife.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #316 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:24 pm

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3, 5, 33, 10 words / line. Have a ciggarette PokerFace.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #350 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:56 am

Albatross!

Thank you!

Unvote; Vote: DBE

Fake French < Real French! [/racialism]

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #370 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:42 am

Traditionally it is safe as no one else has it. I am more inclined to lynch DBE than Spyrex because he would have to be pretty thick to counter-claim something he isn't.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #372 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:43 am

Albatross!

Well that certainly was a waste of my free post.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #376 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:51 am

Albatross!

DBE's is too elaborate for it to be very believable.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #379 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:06 am

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Post 167, mod clarified, once per 13 posts, not 13th.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #390 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:51 am

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Chenhsi comment on the claims. DBE do you believe him?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #404 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:18 am

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/agree would also like opinions from Internet, Jordan, K7, imaginality.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #408 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:34 am

Albatross!

Once again it is the

same guard

who is taunting.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #434 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:45 pm

Albatross!

When did my name become Albatross? Sad times are these.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #444 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:30 am

Albatross!

LuG has 5 votes? Why still voting for chenhsi Mirth?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #446 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:51 am

Albatross!

Mod has a PR? /agree about IM, not switching however.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #465 (isolation #36) » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:40 am

Albatross!

You just answered that question clearly and without insult though.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #475 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:33 am

Albatross!

PokerFace, hypocrite is correct. Chenhsi and Killa, get posting already.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #483 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:24 am

Albatross!

L-2 now. Killa, why chenhsi. Farside, why risk a modkill?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #507 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:34 pm

Albatross!

Not good for the town to steer night actions IMO.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #527 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:06 am

Albatross!

Say something already chenhsi. It's tiring having to tell you.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #533 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:14 am

Albatross!

LG means me or Luigi Gangster? Lynch planning is bad.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #537 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:12 pm

Albatross!

Why is a counterclaimed person less lynchable than a lurker?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #539 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:37 pm

Albatross!

DBE doesn't help under the protection of her PR. Comments?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #548 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:40 pm

Albatross!

Patience Mirth, not long to replacement. DBE, still not contributing.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #568 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:34 pm

Albatross!

Just been waiting for Iron Man, who could get moving.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #574 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:58 am

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Now we learn if Imaginality's vote actually counts. Anything else?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #581 (isolation #47) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:08 am

Albatross!

We've given him time. He needs to get moving already.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #588 (isolation #48) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:50 am

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Iron Man has been posting elsewhere. High on my list.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #646 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:28 am

Albatross!

No visitations here.

Vote: IM

Post/Claim. Page 26 Craziness...

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #681 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:35 pm

Albatross!

Mod: Prod IM please.

Also Killa, stop dodging the question.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #783 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:01 pm

Albatross!

Still waiting for IM. @Women: Why all the role speculation.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #786 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:19 pm

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I'm also beginning to think this game is vanillaless.

This.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #792 (isolation #53) » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:34 am

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IM, I think you're back from work now. <Quite Ticked>

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #820 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:46 am

Albatross!

Iron Man already full claimed. Believe you and claim Strappado.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #889 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:32 am

Albatross!

Iron Man's claim does not absolve him of his actions.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #891 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:08 am

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I meant yesterday, lurking, half claiming, not helping the town.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #900 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:46 am

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Big Post coming, trying to avoid penalties. Waiting for substance.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #939 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:03 am

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Big Post is taking forever. Checking in prior to hammer.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #941 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:54 am

Albatross!

Why come in so last second with an emotional appeal?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #948 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:24 pm

I assume that means we got scum? MAN, we're good.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #961 (isolation #61) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:25 am

For this analysis and really long post I am going to be using a matrixed system to simplify my reading of playstyle and alignment. Please read this whole thing. Thanks.

Playstyle is rated on an alphanumeric scale:
A: Smart
B: Clever
C: Neutral
D: Overeager
E: Stupid
Z: No read

Alignment is rated on a numeric scale:
1: Town
2: Semi-Town
3: Neutral
4: Semi-Scum
5: Scum
9: No Read

Azimuth

Azimuth wrote:I can't help but think that people who reveal their roles too eagerly should be attacked, first with bombs and rockets to destroy their homes, and then when they run helpless into the street, mow them down with machine guns. And then, of course, release the vultures.

I know these views aren't popular, but I have never thought of popularity.

Azimuth wrote:In that case, do you prefer a guitar, castanets, a bowtie, or a motorbike? Or none of the above? More I dare not say, lest you do something awful to the player who guesses the exact role.

These posts worry me, especially considering that there is only one post between them, in which time he changed his position quite dramatically.

Azimuth wrote:1. We lost the cop? Ouch. And there's probably a cult? Double ouch.

Complaining about a bad night is traditionally a scum tell.

I notice that he has never done any scum hunting of his own, only followed what the town has been saying and asking an occasional question. This makes me lean to the scum side.

Read: B4

Chenhsi

Plays the newbie card WAY too much. 11 of his 43 posts are more than one line. He isn't lurking exactly, but he's about as helpful as George Bush when a war is on.

Read: E3

Elvis_Knits

Seems to have some problem with Strappado, but it does seem well founded, however she does not seem to be scum hunting apart from chasing down Strappado.

Read:D2

Farside22

Seems very pro-town to me, quotes me a lot saying QFT, which makes me think that maybe I am getting my points across. Her hammer of Iron Man was well reasoned, and I think that she is more town following that.

Read: A1

JordanA24

Changes his vote almost every post. Drops his suspicions very quickly especially in the case of SpyreX, who he said he thought was scum as well as DarlaBlueEyes, yet never revisited the suspicion later.

Read: D4

Killa Seven (Rogue Shenanigans)

I hate people who play like this. It's very hard to get a read on him.

Read: E9

Muerrto (Bogre)

I really think he's protown for some reason, but it seems that most of out scum hunters are dead. He seems more interested in having all the facts before he acts, but he does it in a pro town way. Please PLEASE scum hunt more.

Read: B1

Pokerface

This guy is my pick for most pro town townie. My only complain is that he first said that he had a hard time believing there were two French Taunters, but when DarlaBlueEyes flipped scum, he seemed to drop that point. I would like to see it revisited.

Read:A1

SpyreX

He seemed to turn on his scum hunting when DarlaBlueEyes claimed French Taunter, but afterwards it seemed to die off gradually. I am heavily concerned that he dropped his suspicion of Strappado, when from his perspective, she caught him in a lie.

Read: C2

Strappado

I am really suspicious of her unvote of DarlaBlueEyes, when someone is counter claimed, it is standard procedure to lynch one of those two, not chenhsi. I also don't like that she has supported the lynch of people with post restrictions.

Read: E4

TheInternet

He managed to miss the entire DarlaBlueEyes lynch, and ignored the chenhsi debate, he is participating only by pushing the Iron Man lynch from day one.

Read: C4

TheSweatpantsNinja

Posts very little of actual content, if he were to participate more I might have more of a read, but this is all I have to work with.

Read: Z9

Voting Patterns

As a side note, I find that someone who is not voting for someone by the end of the day to be quite scummy.
Day One:

Luigi Gangsta

,

Chenhsi

, Strappado,

Azimuth

Day Two: PokerFace,

Iron Man

, SpyreX,

Azimuth, Chenhsi

Noticing that neither of the two were voting by the end of

either

day, makes me heavily suspicious of the two.

I will not vote until people respond to this post. Then I'll act based on reactions and my reads. Finally done.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #963 (isolation #62) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:19 pm

Albatross!

Once per 13. No. No. Mod says no. PF's awesome.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #981 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:38 pm

Albatross!

I'm sorry.. Seems like you reinforce instead of start cases.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1018 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:26 pm

Albatross!

Vote: Chenhsi

. That's all I needed. Farside's making much sense.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:20 am

Albatross!

Chenhsi does not respond to L-2. Farside, thoughts on that?

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Lord Gurgi · Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:29 am

Albatross!

That's a long way of saying "I'm not SK" Correct?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1067 (isolation #67) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:56 am

Albatross!

1, Yes, Mod's a sadist, was penalized, Retrospect, you're right.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1069 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:21 am

Albatross!

Was notified I broke it, reread, found a double post.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1072 (isolation #69) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:07 am

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Post 1067. I just felt like it. *shakefist at Mod*

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Lord Gurgi · Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:01 am

Albatross!

PF is 100% correct on my entire Post Restriction Status.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1081 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:17 pm

Albatross!

I can't make heads or tails of it. PF's awesome.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1087 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:38 am

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1091 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:04 am

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Wasn't told that I could. Bruce's seemed like retroactive ruling.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1097 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:42 am

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There is no time I am allowed to mess up.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1107 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:51 am

Albatross!

Chenhsi, Azimuth, Internet. Stated reasons prior, chenhsi's getting scummier continuously.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:06 am

Albatross!

I am formally requesting a list from

everyone

. Including YOU.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1119 (isolation #77) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:31 pm

Albatross!

I must say that I'm beginning to see a pattern.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1125 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:39 pm

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SpyreX's claim was same name, different powers. Something to note.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1129 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:55 pm

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I never said I did, and I don't. PF's cool.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1146 (isolation #80) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:12 pm

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Enough. Scum is Anti-town, Cult is Anti-town, Mafia is Anti-town.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1188 (isolation #81) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:34 am

Albatross!

Azimuth: Addressing suspicions does'nt make them disappear.

EVERYONE CEASE SOFTCLAIMING.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1201 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:23 am

Albatross!

Do we have a majority on chenhsi? Needs prodding perhaps?

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1219 (isolation #83) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:54 pm

Albatross!

I support claim. Since we will not get much else.

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Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1251 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:21 am

Albatross!

chenhsi wrote:I am
a
black knight

I find this quite suspicious.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1253 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:38 am

Albatross!

Darla claimed with 'a' not 'the', that's all I'm saying.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:25 pm

PokerFace wrote:I'll save you the trouble of calculating the odds of Gurgi actually having that post restriction and show you some stuff I found. I set a trap for Darla and she walked in and it would appear Gurgi has done the same. Gurgi you know you are my friend since we play on irc and scumchat some, but since I think you're scum and/or potential lying, i got to bring this up. Nothing personal good buddy.

No hard feelings no worries.

PokerFace wrote:
Inconsitances:

1) Gurgi said it was on the 13th in his #12 post and later he said it was 1 in every 13 in his #29. Feel free to view his post in isolation at the bottom of the page to confirm this. Now this ain't too bad since he told us all by himself with no prompting still it was something I took note of.

Yes, and this is relevant later as I will say, this means that two unrestricted posts CAN follow one another because I can indeed have 12 restricted posts, then one unrestricted post. Then I have one unrestricted posts, followed by 12 restricted posts. I see no problems here. (12 - 1 - 1 - 12) It could be that I explained it in a bad manner.

PokerFace wrote:2) It don't reset each day and yet the penalty is loss of night skill? No matter how you look at it 2+2 != 5. If thats the case I wouldn't bother keeping it up after I had lost my night skill since continuing the restriction might not do anything. Wasted work but that's just cause I'm lazy.

I really can't account for the inconsistencies as far as that is concerned, but I can well imagine that even though the penalty is nullification of my night skill, if I went out of my way to break the restriction he would modkill me.

PokerFace wrote:3) Bruce has been confirmed town by death which means he was genuine and telling the truth. His restriction penalty was modkill. (No need to acknowledge this comment imaginalty, I don't want you mod killed for mentioning things that should only be noted or confirmed by the dead). Gurgi gets off with loss of night action while the cop gets modkilled? Bruce was also allowed to mess up in pre-game (Or so we were told) while Gurgi couldn't

Once again, I think this was a retroactive ruling on the part of the mod I doubt if he said in imaginality's PM "Oh by the way feel free to disregard the restriction pre-game."

PokerFace wrote:4) Doing the Albatross thing in "You are what you eat" and what that would mean towards chances of such a role going to you here as Elvis exclaimed. Believing Ironman's random thing would keep things the same is just as prepostrous as this thing here since role selection should be random. Not impossible but still out there

I can't account for this, because once again, I do not know if the mod assigns the roles randomly or otherwise. If he does then the chances are small, but there's not much I can do to defend myself on this issue.

PokerFace wrote:
And now its game time. The big kicker LIE anouncement moment. Got him with the same thing that I got Darla with, The Penalty count, and then some special zas just for Gurgi...drumroll please...

What's a zas?

PokerFAce wrote:a) Gurgi claims only getting 1 on day 1 and thus he did not use his skill then but did get to use it night 2.

I explained earlier about the back to back possibility. 12 - 1 - 1 - 12.

PokerFace wrote:b) Gurgi claims The restriction count does not reset each day.
c) Gurgi claims he must use the word Albatross at the start and end. It MUST BE THERE.
d) Gurgi claims he can not save them up and therefore get 2 during a future set of 13.

Just reposting the 12 - 1 - 1 - 12 thing.

PokerFace wrote:e) Pre-game and twighlight still count as times Gurgi must follow the restriction. He gets no time he is allowed to mess up.

#0-12, #13-25, #26-38, #39-51, #52-64, #65-77, #78-90
#12___#14___ #26____#None__#60&61 WTF!!!!

Lord Gurgi #60 post at the end of day 2. Do you see the word Albatross? I only see the 10 word thing.

Yes it was not an intentional break, but it does not violate the rules.

PokerFace wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:I assume that means we got scum? MAN, we're good.
That would mean this post broke his restriction and counted as the 13 thing. But then we have Lord Gurgi #61 post. That was the big post he had at the begining of the day.

Lord Gurgi wrote:For this analysis and really long post I am going to be using a matrixed system to simplify my reading of playstyle and alignment. Please read this whole thing. Thanks.

...

I will not vote until people respond to this post. Then I'll act based on reactions and my reads. Finally done.
Either shaft.ed is blind and he did not see the slips entailed here or you are lying straight up to us, Gurgi. I could have ignored the inconsistancies but this is too much. So tell me why? Why did you fake it man? You have been playing an awesome game so far. The faking here is the soul reason I ever was suspicious of you. I have not seen you as scummy at all. No slips or scumtells have I seen. You have been doing a perfect game so far in my view. So why did you risk so much just to have fun again? Why man?

I am not lying, I have covered why I only broke that one time with a double post, which was ironically placed after what I had THOUGHT was my break.

PokerFace wrote:Are you even the albatross guy? Did you ever post a video?

Sorry good buddy, but I think you got to go.

Vote: Gurgi

I am indeed the Albatross Vendor, I would rather not fullclaim, but if there is a significant push for my claim (One guy is not enough) then I will. I would rather minimize any knowledge the scum has.

PokerFace wrote:Gurgi is a liar and likly scum me thinks. Can you guys think of anything else to discuss before the day is over? Deadline is quite a bit away I am fine with waiting for everybody to react to whatever since night means more people die. If we can find more scum today that will be cool, but for now I am happy with where my vote is.

I assume this is not directed at me.

PokerFace wrote:Gurgi should be given a chance to explain what is here, and then he should probably be lynched assuming Shaft.ed did not mess up on PR breaking penalties. Not sure what to make of K7 randomly picking Gurgi. I see nothing wrong with it and yet that target was unexpected so I can't say I see anything right with it. I still think K7 is town for now so I will over look the randomness for now and see what he does tomorrow.

12 - 1 - 1 - 12. I have written that so many times now, I'm not sure how this is going to read, but I get the feeling it's going to sound like I'm parroting the same thing over and over.

PokerFace wrote:Chenshi should post his Video and so should Gurgi under the suspicions I have entailed here if he really is Mr. Albatross. I can see reason for Chenshi to be lynched yet I feel certain odds don't look to be in favor. If you guys disagree and approve of a chenshi lynch over a Gurgi one, i don't think I'll protest it any further. There is good reason for thinking he is scum yet I am still hesitant to follow through based on other odds. So I guess I'll ask you all which lynch you all think is better and we can go from there. If needed, I think I'd be ok with lynching Gurgi tomorrow. I should be alive tomorrow if all my role calculations are correct flavorwise since I have a pretty good guess how to get my cigs tonight. I am fine with lynching Gurgi tomorrow if chenshi is lynched instead today. Let's give Chenshi and Gurgi some time to respond to the acusations on them and then proceed accordingly by lynching one of them.

It is really quite off-putting that you are unilaterally deciding that I should post my video, I would not have expected it, based on your play thus far. I will

not

claim until this is more than a unilateral request, purely because I don't like claiming with insufficient pressure.

PokerFace wrote:in case it don't count in my quote...

Vote: Gurgi

This is just to say that I cut out no part of your post that was directed at me.

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Unrelated: Good luck Muerrto.

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This was written on-the-fly, so I probably have missed something or been unclear, if you want further clarification, you'll probably have to give me some abbreviations to follow such as:

If your answer is yes and thing one then type A1
If your answer is yes and thing two then type A2
If your answer is no and thing one then type B1
If your answer is no and thing two then type B2

This would allow me to answer many more questions in a more timely manner.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1293 (isolation #87) » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:48 pm

Albatross!

PF was incorrect. He got it now. PF is awesome.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1300 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:02 am

Albatross!

Perhaps he would grace us with his presence or logic.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1302 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:52 pm

Albatross!

61 posts site wide since his last post here. Lynch!

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:27 pm

Albatross!

Vote: Azimuth

. Blah blah. Done this already, see previous reasons.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1333 (isolation #91) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:28 pm

Albatross!

PF: Could be reluctance to bus. I prefer Azimuth lynch.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1336 (isolation #92) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:47 pm

Albatross!

Please don't say who you aren't suspicious of, helps scum.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:36 am

Albatross!

Azimuth: "I don't really think that's true." doesn't equal "refuted".

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:17 pm

Albatross!

Haven't decided on MC. Almost always against it outside lylo.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1392 (isolation #95) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:24 pm

Albatross!

I'll go along with it if the town thinks so.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1397 (isolation #96) » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:08 am

Albatross!

Ug, I hate town directing power roles. Let's pause MC.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1408 (isolation #97) » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:45 pm

Albatross!

Why are you so hung up on the cult Azimuth?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1411 (isolation #98) » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:54 pm

Albatross!

Azimuth is dropping so many scum tells. It is ridiculous.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #1413 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:31 pm

Albatross!

Stop discounting me because I have a PR, I vote.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:00 am

Albatross!

I like a Muerrto lynch also now. Hi Cult Recruiter!

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:14 pm

Albatross!

Backing up your alignment with WIFOM: Not wise you know.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:49 pm

Albatross!

"If I was cult would I..." = WIFOM. And not town.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:54 pm

This is probably a waste of my free post, but I am really annoyed by Azimuth, he is discounting my suspicions

which he only refuted by saying he disagrees with that, or that he thought that people would find it scummy.

Azimuth wrote:I hesitate to lay these next cards on the table, but here goes: since I agree that at least trying to lynch the cult recruiter is "the thing to do" for today, with lynching any cult member as an acceptable alternative for me, I would focus on farside22 and Lord Gurgi, who have been acting overly chummy since at least Day 2.

Quotes please.

Azimuth wrote:With LG going after people for talking about the cult, making superficial attacks while hiding behind a restriction, and even accusing Muerrto of being the recruiter out of the blue, I get the notion that any of several lynches would be okay for him, which is consistent with that of a cult member.

The man has unilaterally declared that it is impossible for him to be a recruiter because of what he did yesterday. That is more than enough for me to want to lynch him.

Azimuth wrote:With farside22 as the other possibility, EK's claim presents problems. I guess it depends on whether we care whether EK wins, and also whether we really trust her motives behind not wanting farside to be lynched. Still, LG's superficial aggressiveness make him more likely than farside to be a recruiter (though it could be someone else).

Please show me where I am being superficially aggressive, I think that if you tried my post restriction you would be ripping your hair out from not being able to say everything you want like I am. I am not in any way hiding behind my post restriction.

Further: You had no problem at all with my suspicion of you, and waved it off when I first made clear my suspicion of you with the following defense:

Azimuth wrote:Since Lord Gurgi used his rare opportunity of verbosity to talk about me, it is only fair to address his suspicions.

Lord Gurgi wrote:
Azimuth wrote:I can't help but think that people who reveal their roles too eagerly should be attacked, first with bombs and rockets to destroy their homes, and then when they run helpless into the street, mow them down with machine guns. And then, of course, release the vultures.
I know these views aren't popular, but I have never thought of popularity.
Azimuth wrote:In that case, do you prefer a guitar, castanets, a bowtie, or a motorbike? Or none of the above? More I dare not say, lest you do something awful to the player who guesses the exact role.
These posts worry me, especially considering that there is only one post between them, in which time he changed his position quite dramatically.
In the beginning, I was more whimsical than I am now. I wanted to find a way to throw in a favorite Python quote of mine, and I was also excited about testing my trivia prowess regarding Iron Man. If I remember correctly, others were curious too before we realized the implications. It was all a long time ago, in the early stages.

Here you directly ignore the fact that I am showing that you first make the implicit suggestion that role fishers should be killed, and then proceed to fish.

Azimuth wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
Azimuth wrote:1. We lost the cop? Ouch. And there's probably a cult? Double ouch.
Complaining about a bad night is traditionally a scum tell.
You do have a point here; I even wondered whether someone might think it was suspicious when I included it. However, such notions are largely circumstantial. One might as easily be "suspicious" of LG's post 948, in which he expresses joy about lynching mafia when he thought IM was admitting to it. Sometimes we express feelings because it's how we feel, not because we're trying to look a certain way.

Nice attempt at deflection, really. Believing that we had lynched scum is hardly comparative to lamenting the night. and of course they are circumstantial, that's all we have. Circumstance and a smattering of logic.

Azimuth wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:I notice that he has never done any scum hunting of his own, only followed what the town has been saying and asking an occasional question. This makes me lean to the scum side.
I don't quite agree with this characterization; how is asking questions not hunting? It's true that most topics weren't started by me, mainly because nothing happened to me overnight -- unlike, apparently, many others -- and I was mostly trying to catch up with the posts of those others and make sense of them. There are only so many topics that can be brought up, after all; I'm not going to invent some new crazy topic just to satisfy someone else's idea of hunting.

You never stated any unique suspicions of anyone, until perhaps your latest post, and no I don't believe that you need to start discussion to scum hunt. You ask benign questions, that are in no way interrogation, or useful for that matter, clarification from the mod and asking people how they

feel

is what it amounts to.

Azimuth wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:As a side note, I find that someone who is not voting for someone by the end of the day to be quite scummy.
Is that based on actual experience, or just a particular preference of yours? I definitely have not seen that to be the case, especially on days where a townie is lynched. For my part, both days we were waiting for IM to say something; on Day 1 killa seven quickhammered before it even happened, and on Day 2 someone else (farside?) put the hammer soon after IM's reply, before I had a chance to return and read it. I'm not going to place some random vote late in the day just to appease someone else's idea of appearing town.

Experience. It works reliably, especially since we lynched a scum day one, your argument is flawed. There was plenty of time to vote the counter claimed scum with the badly faked post restriction. There is always someone you are suspicious of,

always

. I refuse to believe that two days in a row you could find no one suspicious enough to warrant a vote. Unless you are trying to lie low.

Azimuth wrote:For now I will say that recently I have been most suspicious of JordanA24; I will be interested to see how imaginality plays that role and whether it negates or confirms my suspicions.

Have any comments on this also?

Also Azimuth, never, ever say I am hiding behind my PR. I have 103 posts to your 33. I am truly quite frustrated that you are ignoring my suspicion as refuted. If this post sounds angry that's because it is. I have a vote too Azimuth, just because I can't make posts as large as you all the time doesn't mean that it counts for less.

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:42 pm

Albatross!

How's it credible to say we're chummy off one post?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:56 pm

Albatross!

The post numbers were to say that I am contributing.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:48 am

Albatross!

Mostly agree with PF. Will talk specifics in big post.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:23 pm

Albatross!

I'm suspicious of Muerrto's claim. Holding the rest until explanation.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:29 pm

Albatross!

Azimuth's claim was overeager, I still want to lynch him.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:46 am

Albatross!

Bad breadcrumbs, and you're finding them, not him pointing out.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:13 pm

Albatross!

Part One: He resisted strongly until the popular opinion changed.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:12 pm

Albatross!

Two: Then quickly claimed a role that shouldn't action claim.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:47 pm

Albatross!

Especially since he said, "I have no particular problems claiming"

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:41 am

Albatross!

Don't steer any power roles. It is a bad idea.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:52 am

Albatross!

See Farside? Anyway, Azimuth is two from lynch. Not lynched.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:03 am

Albatross!

Yes. Is there anyone who doesn't think Azimuth is scum?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:00 am

Albatross!

PokerFace: Doesn't that theory assume all recruiting attempts were successful?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:27 am

Albatross!

Actually PF, that's my bad counting, not his. Missed Imagordan.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:31 pm

Albatross!

I just cannot believe that Azimuth was telling the truth.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:48 am

Albatross!

This means that the Bing Machine is almost certainly doc.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:02 am

Albatross!

PF, that would require an RB, Night One: SpyreX. No?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:04 am

Albatross!

Wait, what does a self target roleblocker do? I'm confused.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:11 am

Albatross!

OK. At this point we either Massclaim or drop speculation.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:48 am

Albatross!

I was not visited. Where is killa seven? He's lurking.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:59 am

Albatross!

I don't get squat for following, breaking is the problem.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:12 pm

Albatross!

Sure, it will be my free post however. That okay?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:40 pm

I am the Albatross Vendor. Basically I try to sell the albatross to a person each night. I have no idea what this actually does, because it just tells me that I try to sell it to a person, so I think I'm either searching for someone like PokerFace or I have some power.

I do have my targets however, if someone can figure out what on earth I do.

Night One: Nullified due to PR breaking.
Night Two: Farside
Night Three: Killa Seven
Night Four: Imagordan

Things I have ruled out altogether: Any information role. I have never received any notice of anything, blockings, visitation, results, or anything else.

Did anyone receive any notice of me?

Flavourwise, I don't think I'm a doc, I could potentially be a roleblocker, but then this is speculation.

It's kind of sad to speculate about your own role.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:02 pm

Albatross!

I'm up for it. If it does work, then Muerrto....

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:00 pm

Albatross!

PokerFace: Isn't imaginality's role too obvious of a red herring?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:52 am

Albatross!

For the record, killa seven always lurks as every alignment.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:26 am

Albatross!

Imaginality, voting based on roles is not a good strategy.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:32 am

Albatross!

There is really nothing that I can do about that.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:44 am

Albatross!

No, but they should compound it with

something

about play.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:54 pm

Albatross!

I didn't want to make a read on one fact.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:34 pm

Albatross!

Imaginality: So, if it's reasonable, why point suspicion at me?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:28 am

Albatross!

It seems to me that this game has lost momentum.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:36 am

Albatross!

At the risk of OMGUS, something seems off about Imagordan.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:04 pm

Albatross!

Most recently, attributing scumminess to me, while admitting it's reasonable.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:06 pm

Preliminary Questions:

Farside:
Why do you say so forcefully that you want this post from me, but not bother with killa seven?
strappado:
Why do you not vote for someone because of an “honor” post?
PokerFace:
Concerning Farside’s suggestion that I break my PR, how do you feel about it? I’m more worried that I’ll get modkilled for doing it purposely, but I want your opinion.
killa seven:
Who do you suspect?
Farside:
Why do you hone in so much on role-based evidence, rather than play?
Imaginality:
Why do you support Muerrto and I to be lynched over killa seven based purely on roles, ignoring your (professed) suspicion of him, purely because of his role?
Muerrto:
Why, why, why, why? Why did you claim when you were unkillable? You claim that you had nothing to lose by claiming, going from unkillable to townie is a big loss.
The Internet:
Who do you suspect?

strappado

Harps on the killa seven lynch a lot, I find most issue with her reasons which generally amount to “His role is scummy, and he plays like chenhsi, and chenhsi was scum.” Especially since she says multiple times that she has stated the reasons why she is suspicious of killa seven. To be honest I thought she had at some point, and didn’t bother to go back and check what she had said.

Also, her complete drop from killa seven because of his “Honor Post”, honor is a load of bologna, this is a game, I understand that people play by some additional rules that they place upon themselves, but the whole “I don’t bus.” is such a horrible defense, that it only makes me more suspicious of the two. At this point I would suspect a strappado-killa seven connection since strappado has been half-heartedly following killa seven with no real evidence that anyone else could read and agree with, and killa seven hasn’t been helping in the least.

Pokerface

Sheesh this guy is town, but seriously, I also like that recently he, unlike some others (I’ll get on this later) is not choosing suspects based on their roles, but rather on their play.

killa seven

Well, what can I say, there’s not much to go on. The fact that he has no stated suspicions bothers me intensely. I have no read on him, excluding the connection to strappado.

farside22

This is her town play. I have a good meta read on her at this point. Anyway, directed at Farside now: Why do you attack me for things that I cannot do anything about? Your role is scummy, nobody sees you is scummy, your PR is weird. What on earth shall I do about it? It’s annoying that I can’t address these things, but once again, I really can’t do anything to fix it.

imaginality (Jordan)

This post makes me think that he is scum: [quote=imaginality] However as I've argued earlier I don't think K7 should be the lynch today, because by directing his night action as described earlier I'm pretty sure we can start tomorrow knowing the final scum is

definitel[/b]y one out of two suspects (depending what happens), and that's good enough for us to win. For that reason I favour an LG lynch (and would go along with a Muerrto one) rather than a K7 one today.[/quote] Which roughly translates to lynching people without play-based evidence, and entirely upon roles. That is scummy, because it relieves him of coming up with any good reasons that can be contested by the accused.
Also, there has been a subtle change in his play style since he replaced. Call me crazy, but I think it’s because he’s scum now.

Muerrto

What gets me about him is that he defends his role, as far as I’m concerned when a townie is getting their role scrutinised, they don’t try to rationalise it, they just claim it and be done. He constantly explains why he did what he did, constantly uses meta to explain why unkillable roles are feasible, and I can only think that’s because he researched it to fakeclaim, since I don’t think it’s likely that he looked up meta to rationalise his role to himself.

The Internet

He doesn’t say much, seems to say even less now that he’s on the sidelines as far as attention, he posts his suspicions once in a blue moon, I’d like a revised list, since only one guy’s left alive on it. I really doubt that he is scum.

Overall Scum list:

1. imaginality
2. strappado
3. killa seven

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:19 pm

Albatross!

Yes. One thing to not know, another to deny it.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:28 pm

Albatross!

Burden of Proficiency? Really? I expect more if breaking's deliberate.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:48 pm

Albatross!

Answered first three previously. Four, yes, but not the instance.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:35 pm

Albatross!

One, no. Two, rephrase. Three, if I understand this, yes.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:19 pm

Albatross!

Two, cautiousness, forgetfulness. Three, operating under that, shaft.ed's been ambiguous.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:01 pm

Albatross!

Why exactly can't

I

be cleared through that plan Imagordan?

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:37 pm

Albatross!

I've a huge problem with Imagordan settling for either lynch.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:03 pm

Albatross!

Frankly, I doubt there is a cult. They'd have won.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:06 pm

Albatross!

This plan is merely an excuse for bad Scum hunting.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:40 am

Albatross!

I object to you omitting that option in the plan.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:50 am

Albatross!

Fine. I don't like killing townies. Whatever.

Vote: Lord Gurgi

.

Albatross!

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:10 pm

Well I might as well get breaking my PR then, the scum remaining are imagordan and strappado, then killa seven if the game for some reason does not end. Don't lynch Muerrto, PokerFace, Farside. The Internet will or should die soon, get Imagordan to vig strappado.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:17 pm

PokerFace wrote:Are even you Gurgi really ok with this plan or are you trying some kind of gambit and I've been reading you wrong for the bulk of this game?

It would seem that I cannot convince people that killing a townie to confirm them is not a good idea, except in the case of a vig. So, the best thing for me to do is to follow the town on this one. We'll see how it plays out.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:18 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:Well I might as well get breaking my PR then, the scum remaining are imagordan and strappado, then killa seven if the game for some reason does not end. Don't lynch Muerrto, PokerFace, Farside. The Internet will or should die soon, get Imagordan to vig strappado.
Did you ask Shaft.ed if you are mod killed by braking your PR?

No. Kind of exciting, isn't it?

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:25 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
PokerFace wrote:Are even you Gurgi really ok with this plan or are you trying some kind of gambit and I've been reading you wrong for the bulk of this game?
It would seem that I cannot convince people that killing a townie to confirm them is not a good idea, except in the case of a vig. So, the best thing for me to do is to follow the town on this one. We'll see how it plays out.
You know what irks me is that you don't even have a vote on anyone. I mean all I see is a reguritation of following with few to little scum hunting. That is why I'm not critisizing your PR, but I'm critisizing the fact that you don't count it and post like made when you have the chance.

And yet, I contribute

more

than killa seven, even under the PR. Don't burden me with expectations of proficiency or helpfulness.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:30 pm

That argument is flawed.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:33 pm

His link to strappado. This is only after strappado is lynched, as I think she is more likely to be scum.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:37 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:His link to strappado. This is only after strappado is lynched, as I think she is more likely to be scum.
You think with an 18 player game there is 5 scum players and 1 SK?

I'll not play outguess the mod. Keep lynching scum/scummy people until you win. How do you play?

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:45 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:His link to strappado. This is only after strappado is lynched, as I think she is more likely to be scum.
You think with an 18 player game there is 5 scum players and 1 SK?
I'll not play outguess the mod. Keep lynching scum/scummy people until you win. How do you play?
I do that and base it on what I consider a balanced game.

I don't think presumption of the number of scum is important to scum hunting. Perhaps if there were 3 SK's versus 5 member mafia group, but still, scum hunting is the same.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:54 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:His link to strappado. This is only after strappado is lynched, as I think she is more likely to be scum.
You think with an 18 player game there is 5 scum players and 1 SK?
I'll not play outguess the mod. Keep lynching scum/scummy people until you win. How do you play?
I do that and base it on what I consider a balanced game.
I don't think presumption of the number of scum is important to scum hunting. Perhaps if there were 3 SK's versus 5 member mafia group, but still, scum hunting is the same.
What happens if strapp or K-7 come up town saying we lynched one? Then what?

Then continue on, lynch the scummiest player.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:57 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:His link to strappado. This is only after strappado is lynched, as I think she is more likely to be scum.
You think with an 18 player game there is 5 scum players and 1 SK?
I'll not play outguess the mod. Keep lynching scum/scummy people until you win. How do you play?
I do that and base it on what I consider a balanced game.
I don't think presumption of the number of scum is important to scum hunting. Perhaps if there were 3 SK's versus 5 member mafia group, but still, scum hunting is the same.
What happens if strapp or K-7 come up town saying we lynched one? Then what?
Then continue on, lynch the scummiest player.
Yes but you want to lynch k-7 or Strapp based on a link. At that point who is scummy?

Imagordan. Also, reevaluate based on responses to those wagons.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:24 pm

The Internet wrote:I still don't see why if the scum kill K7 it is my fault. Gurgi, post while you still can, and go down in a blaze of modkilled glory.

This is assuming I get modkilled, and also says that you believe my PR. This is part good and part bad.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:47 am

Well PF, I'm sure that, at this point, the town is going to lynch one of Muerrto and I, and I don't think Muerrto is scum, so I will not vote for him. If that's not the case, tell me.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:13 pm

Well PF, I'm sure that, at this point, the town is going to lynch one of Muerrto and I, and I don't think Muerrto is scum, so I will not vote for him. If that's not the case, tell me.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:15 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:Well PF, I'm sure that, at this point, the town is going to lynch one of Muerrto and I, and I don't think Muerrto is scum, so I will not vote for him. If that's not the case, tell me.
I think lynching k-7, strap or imagine is bad. There is nothing wrong with trying imagine's plan. Why shouldn't the town use what they have and know and see what happens?

Utility lynches are generally bad, and as far as I'm concerned, the plan is a glorified way to justify wasting a lynch.

That was one heck of a double post.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:21 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:Well PF, I'm sure that, at this point, the town is going to lynch one of Muerrto and I, and I don't think Muerrto is scum, so I will not vote for him. If that's not the case, tell me.
I think lynching k-7, strap or imagine is bad. There is nothing wrong with trying imagine's plan. Why shouldn't the town use what they have and know and see what happens?
Utility lynches are generally bad, and as far as I'm concerned, the plan is a glorified way to justify wasting a lynch.

That was one heck of a double post.
And the only people you want to lynch is one of those 3 based on weak reasoning.

Weak scumhunting is better than none. Also, my action has been nullified for a while now, just ignoring it now.

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:26 pm

farside22 wrote:Funny you didn't fight or really push on these 3 till Imagine's plan happened.

I was really

really

sure about Azimuth, and I don't just keep rolling, I had to reconsider my ideas, or is that not OK?

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:32 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:
farside22 wrote:Funny you didn't fight or really push on these 3 till Imagine's plan happened.
I was really
really
sure about Azimuth, and I don't just keep rolling, I had to reconsider my ideas, or is that not OK?
I don't like the fact you bring up only the 3 of them after Imagine brings a plan into this. Also why is it wrong for the town to use their PR's to find scum. If you are town you win. If your scum you have a reason to panic.

Sigh, why are you whining, I'm voting myself, I don't see what you stand to gain by saying I'm panicking, except maybe try to hurry up the process.

imaginality wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:Well PF, I'm sure that, at this point, the town is going to lynch one of Muerrto and I, and I don't think Muerrto is scum, so I will not vote for him. If that's not the case, tell me.
Whether or not you're fairly sure that Muerrto is town doesn't matter - since you're 100% sure that
you
are town. If you are. So voting yourself is illogical.

The only way self-voting makes sense is if you do want us to go ahead with my plan and don't think we'll reach a lynch of you or Muerrto before deadline unless you vote for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather be lynched, than lynch someone I think is town. That's how

I

play, how about you?

Lord Gurgi · Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:17 pm

imaginality wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather be lynched, than lynch someone I think is town.
You'd rather lynch someone you know is town (you) than someone you think is town?

Yes. I don't like lynching people I don't think are scum, I'd rather I die.

Lord Gurgi · Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:06 am

I love you all.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:41 pm

I got so screwed this game. Also, I faked the posting restriction for the heck of it. I think I was doing pretty good, but the situation just cornered the heck out of me.

Lord Gurgi · Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:46 pm

farside22 wrote:
Lord Gurgi wrote:I got so screwed this game. Also, I faked the posting restriction for the heck of it. I think I was doing pretty good, but the situation just cornered the heck out of me.
Did you target me because you thought I was a threat?

I knew you were town.