mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Nero Cain]

And Then Satan Said"Put the Alphabet in Math"

[Nero Cain]

sometimes I dunno what u ppl r doing. a50 is scum reading Shelly. But Shelly has already said she'd sacrifice and if we add her and she refuses to sacrifice then she's just scum and if she's town and sacrifices herself then a50 can just move on.

lets you know, actually add ppl that will sacrifice.

[Nero Cain]

I'm in the Cain camp. I don't need to know who the last two scum are. I just need to keep myself alive until town wins.

I mean, this does sound pretty slimy but im not all that convinced its a chemist/bell over chemist/math

[Nero Cain]

no one else should be voting prob) just in case chemist is town and would like to do us the favor of suiciding.

[Nero Cain]

in the very unlikely scenario that Math is 3p and thus Bell is scum that leaves 3 town.

[Nero Cain]

im not sure if town will die tonight b/c if we are right that shelly/tpg is a town it seems like the scum need to keep them alive so they can have mislynch bait. ditto bell and even if they shoot @ norway to remove his vest he still doesn't die.

[Nero Cain]

its currently 2 vs. 2 vs. 3 vs 4 unless you buy the Math claim and its 2/2/3/3/1 wich I obv don't

[Nero Cain]

inb4 math shoots @ norway and claims that its proof he's a doc

[Nero Cain]

It's practically 9 1/2 vs. 2 scum. We have the numbers to just bulldoze our way through all of chemist/math/bell

[Nero Cain]

i know

[Nero Cain]

Bell, do you understand that the last scum is between you and math? and that if you die you'll still complete your wincon and prove that math is the last scum?

[Nero Cain]

personally, I rather add Bell and have him blow up but he's being incredibly hard-headed.

[Nero Cain]

but you could argue the same for Math that he refuses to suicide b/c he's scum.

[Nero Cain]

but also...Math is not town so eliminating Math literally has no downside.

[Nero Cain]

like if we eliminate Bell and he's town then we get screwed but if we eliminate Math we don't get penalized if he flips 3p and if he's just scum we just win with the town.

[Nero Cain]

we only get penalized for town elims and Math isn't town...

[Nero Cain]

if Math were a town doc claiming 3p is like the stupidest thing ever.

[Nero Cain]

oh so you want shelly or TPG to suicide to "confirm" maths claim.


i think you are just getting played like my lute

[Nero Cain]

oh Titus believes he's lying she's just ignoring OR and assuming he's town lying.

[Nero Cain]

Bell why do you trust the masons more than the confirmed town? (norway btw)

[Nero Cain]

I just think there's really no point in this. if we assume that chemist is scum and that tpg/shelly is town that means Bell/Math HAVE to contain the last scum.

and honestly, they are both a lil scummy but Math is SUPER SCUMMY. The town/masons have the #'s to just flip both so eh...

[Nero Cain]

It's a phantom strongman. he was using that to argue as a crumb for his "doc" claim.

[Nero Cain]

Chemist isn't going to ever show up again are they?

wrong

follow up q. are you going to use words?

[Nero Cain]

hey norway, you know what would be spicy? if chemist were just town and scum was actually Bell/Math

[Nero Cain]

Well that doesn't work though. Because if Chemist is town that means one of Shelly/TGP are scum.

OH RIGHT, TEMPORARILY FORGOT ABOUT THE GROUPING.

[Nero Cain]

could be fake though *shrugz*

[Nero Cain]

YES YES YES YES

[Nero Cain]

though it being a chemist/math would be so much simpler

[Nero Cain]

reminder that you are a hardclaimed not town...

[Nero Cain]

what?

hey gurl, can you type I'm willing to sacrifice for the cause in bold in our hood?

[Nero Cain]

Reminder...Claiming the truth makes me dead.

your going to be dead some kind of way b/c the only thing that stands in my way is your sister and a crippled old man

[Nero Cain]

Math is prob just scum but on the off chance that he's just 3p then his elim literally doesn't harm anyone.

VOTE: Math

[Nero Cain]

lets go norway and mage

[Nero Cain]

did chemist just peace out on us AGAIN?

[Nero Cain]

I'm waiting for A50 and SB to get here.

y is their opinion more important than norway? you know actual confirmed town.

[Nero Cain]

like I just want to kill all of chemist, math and Bell.

[Nero Cain]

4 town and 3 "masons" vs. 2 scum

we kill math

a mason/town gets killed

6 vs. 1-2

chemist eliminated

6 v. 1-0

nk townmason

5 v 1

kill bell

GAME OVE!


Right?

[Nero Cain]

math is still scum but w/e

VOTE: chemist

[Nero Cain]

she has

[Nero Cain]

peace out

[Nero Cain]

even if Bell is scum Norway take 2 night phases to die so a50 just becomes a king maker

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: MATHBLADE

no more votes until Titus gets on

[Nero Cain]

assume Bell is scum. Norway is a town BP. its 1:1 but the game isn't over b/c scum can't kill norway. a50 is kingmaker

[Nero Cain]

if you rather have a50 suicide than shelly I'd be fine with that.

[Nero Cain]

eh, we need the sacrifice point. If you rather have a50 do it than ShellY I'd be ok with that.

[Nero Cain]

no, Titus and a50 just don't know how to use their words right.

[Nero Cain]

shut up, scum

[Nero Cain]

when someone sacrifices and we kill you then we'll have our wincon, yep

[Nero Cain]

its takes like 2 seconds to claim. stop stalling.

[Nero Cain]

whats that that DGB used to say " claiming your role is easy, but fabricating your role takes an eternity" something like that

[Nero Cain]

i think we are gonna have a50 explode

[Nero Cain]

aparently we don't need the explosion point anymore. Time to get rid of an annoying stalling scum math.

[Nero Cain]

though a50 exploding would still be fun to watch!

[Nero Cain]

an unrecruitable traitor wouldn't count as a 6th scum member,. I talked about this yesterday.

[Nero Cain]

inb4 math is the traitor and Bell is the last scum.

but we have enough room to get both if we need so eh...

[Nero Cain]

is math hammered and schaad on?

[Nero Cain]

you were a goon/toe masher?

[Nero Cain]

yea the 3p groups working together was solid play that made this hard AF for scum but the "point" was for the 2 3p groups to fight.

[Nero Cain]

watch a50 be the traitor.

[Nero Cain]

as much as I like winning and felt like I played well this win feels a bit underwhelming and this setup seems really townsided.

[Nero Cain]

I felt our 3p wincon was hard as hell given Nero and I had to agree on every execution and be right.

we were given 1 miselmim leeway and we did agree so I'm not seeing the problem? Although it took you a bit to come around on Math.

[Nero Cain]

since it'll prob be a thing I have no objections to releasing my pts. Can everyone do this now so we don't have to wait on schadd to release PTs b/c that's a thing for some silly reason.

[Nero Cain]

really? I don't want to have to wait the weekend for u to reread

[Nero Cain]

It’s a site function iirc
Have to wait on schadd imho

I mean, I know he has to get on a psychically click the button that makes it public it but I'm talking about the newish trend where everyone is given a chance to object or make retractions and I think it's mostly dumb.

[Nero Cain]

You were sharp Titus

she was. Like I said, I've never seen Titus be this accurate but when you are dealing with 7 conf not scum by d2 its kinda hard to not mess up.

[Nero Cain]

I know he'll take issue but I sorta feel like getting Boon out was pretty helpful b/c after that point it seems like town was all on point.

[Nero Cain]

im also calling myself town b/c even though I was 3p I was town in my heart

[Nero Cain]

SB was HARD coasting after like s1.

[Nero Cain]

I feel like it would have been enjoyable if someone did sacrifice for us.

[Nero Cain]

no offense to pete, taylor, gamma and chemmist but they are are lurky and not very charismatic. When you are up against superstar Nero Cain and Titus and Mastina and good supporting charters like Norway, Bell and Shelly you are kinda behind from the start.

[Nero Cain]

i think b/c BH made a post about me and others using the word lynch and then schadd saying that it was a good post.

[Nero Cain]

[Nero Cain]

DS' vig shots actually turned out to be super helpful.

[Nero Cain]

I do think I'm a superstar. I'm allowed to have an inflated value of self-worth.


"BECAUSE YOU MADE THIS GAME A HELLHOLE TO PARTAKE IN!!!!"
don't really agree with this though.

[Nero Cain]

don't really think that BH was mod confirmed town but I could see how Sam could have interpreted that and schaad shouldn't have called thier post good.

[Nero Cain]

I was in a game not too long ago where Mastina predicted a "town stomp" b/c all the players that rolled scum were mediocre and town were me and others. And the same point that Mastina brings up that Gamma himself thought all the strong players rolled town. It wasn't about "disrespect" just me stating what I feel is an objective fact. Scum didn't play that well, though they also got hard screwed by the setup.

Am I arrogant for calling myself a superstar? sure man but I do think I'm just a really solid player so eh...

[Nero Cain]

meh.

I think in general I'm more accurate than Titus but I'm pretty hit or miss still. My strong suit might be that I'm super super super obv town. In this game I was mostly wrong early on but I easily solved it once BH, SS and DS were dead.

It's prob true that Titus/Mastina have a higher skill reputation than me and that I need to lvl up.

[Nero Cain]

in fairness, hooding a50 was kinda obvious

[Nero Cain]

y did ya'll decide norway was the town to confirm?

[Nero Cain]

I'm actually glad you shot JJH over Math b/c I prob would have been screaming and yelling that TPG was scum.

[Nero Cain]

our faction was not town/town aligned. You should have been shooting a50's faction.

[Nero Cain]

none of Titus, Mastina orI have objected to our hood being released. So release it?

[Nero Cain]

you didn't spam enuff! Didn't even break 600 posts pfff!

[Nero Cain]

Your wincon didn't really change. Schadd just did a poor job wording it and then clarified. Or maybe it did change and that was just an excuse. Though I believe the former b/c I felt like some of our wording was a lil' meh and in the future, Schadd should try to catch himself.

[Nero Cain]

it was really frustrating how scummy Math was and his replies to me. I feel much better knowing that he was scum instead of town.

[Nero Cain]

I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.

[Nero Cain]

also @ first a50 was pushing a shelly/tpg team and I had wanted a dead shelly do he could move on.

[Nero Cain]

i just want to read the scum thread and the intern thread but we gotta w8 :/

[Nero Cain]

18/5 is a pretty normal setup up

[Nero Cain]

there weren't 6 masons but thats how it played out. If we assume that the two third parties will act as town masons (which they did) this game becomes incredibly townsided. It was essentially 10 prs and 8 vts. I think the fix here is to turn plus into a vt-make both society and interms 2 each. This would make an 11/7 town split. Or I guess you could keep plus and still keep it as a 10/8 split.

[Nero Cain]

scum shoulda had like a roleblocker or something

[Nero Cain]

oh i forgot

[Nero Cain]

i mean, prob. Still no mafia or intern thread. :/

[Nero Cain]

kinda enjoyable that Math continuly doubted me but I was one of the biggest thorns in scums side